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This is a very difficult post to write. As you may know, I have been a big fan of Uncyclopedia for a long time. I used to be very active here, to the point of being made an admin. I have written three featured articles and created four featured images. This is a place I’ve loved to spend time.
Unfortunately times have moved on, and there are aspects of the wiki that have become increasingly a problem over the years. We've always given Uncyclopedia a lot of leeway, despite many pages being outside our Terms of Use. And it's not just random bad images and articles, but some of the genuine content that should be on Uncyclopedia, but not on Fandom. We’ve ignored these things for years, but we need to really improve the acceptability of content on the site. So we are looking again at Uncyc’s content, and have decided that it’s not the sort of thing that we want to host anymore.
Trying to clean up Uncyclopedia would be impossible, and would involve deleting valid (but problematic) article like these. That simply isn't feasible.
Of course you have options, and we want to help this change go smoothly. You may want to talk to the fork about merging in, we could provide a database dump of all articles created here since the fork, or you could be more selective taking only the best new articles. Or you could go to alternative hosting there are many available]. I can't recommend one, but I know that a few wikis in a similar situation have gone to Miraheze.
We can't provide a dump of the images for copyright reasons - what's likely fair use here would be violating the original copyright if provided in a data dump. But you may be able to use sometihing like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exporting_all_the_files_of_a_wiki to help.
Again, I'm sorry this is happening, and will help as much as possible to make this a smooth transition. - Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 17:24, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

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Keep Uncyclopedia available on Fandom. Just delete the pages containing adult content. If the wiki is going to be shut down all together, I wouldn't accept this. It'd be better if you change the rules and make the content more family-friendly, and comedic at the same time. ~Signed JustLeafy ( ͡| ͜' ͡| ) USER - WALL {{SUBST:{date|18:03, February 26, 2019}}} 18:03, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Much as I like your ideas...
Just delete the pages containing adult content.
change the rules and make the content more family-friendly, and comedic
These weren't exactly opportunities afforded to other nuked projects like AnimeBaths (shut down in November) so it wouldn't really be fair and balanced treatment to take a "page by page" approach to other projects. Anything edge/controversial (even if merely a HISTORY of it, if you are open to amending whatever is given as examples of offensive content) seems to be grounds for closure. talk2ty 18:11, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
This is one of the most informative wiki you have and the one where the rest of Fandom can be lampooned talk with the owner of the wiki because we're just visitors here. You might be offend by the nature of the articles being informative as well as they are funny but Craig admitted he was wrong banning one member when he was accused of whitewashing history read Paula Deen and fact check this.--Factfinder510 (talk) 18:36, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Hey could someone post on Unmeta about getting all the existing Uncyclopedias transferred over there? Especially Esperanto. I can't post there due to the weird spamfilter not working on my browser. Draketo (talk) 18:38, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
I don't recommend Carlb's servers. I have heard complaints from the Portuguese community for him being late on dealing with all the technical issues. As a member of Miraheze, I think using us is a better option.--The Pioneer JP (talk) 18:42, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
That's reasonable; I agree that they are slow with technical issues. Would you be able to take on the Esperanto Uncyclopedia? Draketo (talk) 18:59, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
You can simply make a request for it. However, it seems that Lyrithya also welcomes Uncycs to move to her server (which is the same as .co), so it's up to you (and each individual communities), I guess.--The Pioneer JP (talk) 19:32, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

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I've found out that the same message has been posted not only here but also, at least, on Spanish, Italian, and Polish Uncyclopedias, so I guess this time they are serious. Besides, maybe it's maybe a good idea for both of us if we reunite with uncyclopedia.co . There we can use the latest version and our good-old monobook/vector skins with interwikis updated. However, Fandom should secure our SEO scores by giving our new wiki a proper redirect if we do this, and I'll ping him/her about this part.--The Pioneer JP (talk) 18:40, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Agreed about reuniting with uncyclopedia.co! Let's get all the wikis that aren't over there yet transferred. Draketo (talk) 18:41, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Surely it will work for the English one, but I think we need a further discussion for other remaining communities.--The Pioneer JP (talk) 18:44, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Realize that .co split off in 2013. That means a lot has been edited in very different ways at each site. Which version gets to live and which doesn't?; neither site carries more than one article per subject. Merging articles is not a snap. Further if it comes down to a vote at .co, all your edit/rewrite work here is probably gone. If you were only at .co, you'd keep the .co version, right? --Nigel Scribbler sig2 (talk) 01:53, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
I also agree with also need to cut down on inappropriate content here and potentially copyrighted content. In my case, I have sourced for free-use images like on wikimedia commons or elsewhere. I also, being a teenager here, don't find the sexual jokes here funny at all; it throws the reader off. About .co, I have contributed significantly to the (North) Korean articles including adding a nice infobox over here, but when I got to .co, the changes doesnt happen there. I suggest, actually, we create a sandbox at .co and transfer the versions of here over to the site, then we can discuss on how to merge the versions if possible, or debate which one is better.--Zhenkang123 (talk) 02:14, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
You have a point, but I'm not sure what that has to do with the issue at hand, unless you're suggesting we go over all 32,000+ articles with a fine-tooth comb to make sure they meet the terms of use -- which... no. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 02:51 27 February 2019
You can't use ping here because we don't have Echo/Notifications. I don't think a merger is likely or a good idea, as I said below. Those familiar with the history should understand. For some of us, at least, there can be no reconciling. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 02:51 27 February 2019

en.uncyclopedia.co [Edit]

Well, since 'conflict of interest' is no longer a problem, I'd strongly recommend making ties with uncyclopedia.co. They would probably maybe be fine hosting original articles and sections that they don't have. Maybe we could request them to make wikia.uncyclopedia.co to host a database dump, for a transition. --— Imdill3 (talk) 20:14, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
If I weren't permanently banned from en.uncyclopedia.co I'd also say go for it. Right now, the community there is led by Zombiebaron, Un-Supergeeky1 and Aimsplode, so those are the people you should contact about any sort of reintegration. – roza (talk ☭ ctbslog) 20:37, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Posted a thread here. --— Imdill3 (talk) 20:38, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Roza, you have your own Uninspired. You can work with it, and I don't think it's a good idea to campaign negatively against .co .--The Pioneer JP (talk) 20:45, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Hello. I would like to say that the uncyclopedia.co administration has been working for months on a proposal for the reunification of our projects, and we sent an email communicating this to the UncycloWikia administration earlier this week. We are very supportive of a reunification and are open to listening to what it would take for your community to join us in the promised land. Zombiebaron (talk) 20:55, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
With all due respect, I am merely directing users on Wikia to seek help from the three most active admins on the .co site, and disclosing my current status there as banned. I apologize if this was seen as a smear against uncyclopedia.co. – roza (talk ☭ ctbslog) 20:56, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it is factually correct that the three admins you listed are the "most active admins". PF4Eva, Un-Kakun, Lost Labyrinth, Kip the Dip, Hotadmin4u69, Bizzeebeever, DWIII and Lyrithya are all very active administrators on both the .co wiki and discord server. Zombiebaron (talk) 04:03, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Contact the rest of the Uncyclopedia community [Edit]

Here's some links to Discord servers where you can get in contact with other Uncyclopedia users. – roza (talk ☭ ctbslog) 21:37, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
  • UnMeta — hub for almost all Uncyclopedia communities
  • Uncyclopedia — en.uncyclopedia.co server
Thank you for the links Roza. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:07, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia Wikia[Edit]

I trust we can keep this a civil conversation all round. I don't want Uncyclopedians go in for another drama as was experienced in January 2013. On the record, I can confirm I received an email from Zombiebaron and Uncyclopedia.co yesterday which I shared with the admins here. I hadn't realised this was now a pressing issue as regards hosting so this is now public knowledge. As a question to Sannse and Wikia/Fandom I would like to know what happens to the domain name(s) they own as regards Uncyclopedia. I presume these will be given up since there would be nothing to host at those addresses in future? Also, how long have we got here before the lights are switched off?? Therefore it seems the choices this hosted Uncyclopedia has are the following:
  • 1. Nothing and everything on the site dies.
  • 2. A merger with Uncyclopedia.co
  • 3. Export the database to another third party site if they want it via the methods outlined by Sannse.
Depending on how much time we have got, I would all registered contributors provide constructive suggestions and possible safeguards for all users in a future uncyclopedia. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:41, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
There have been no decisions about the URLs at this point. But I would like to know, if we were to give them up, who would own them?
The time-scale depends on how quickly you can organize whatever you need to organize. I would say we should aim for a month. As I said, we want to make this as smooth as possible, so aren't gonna chuck you out tomorrow! -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 23:13, February 26, 2019 (UTC)
Ok a month sounds fair..so we're talking about the 31st March. Regards ownership of the domain names, I don't know as yet as that also includes a responsibility over the content of the information. Regards ownership of the site name(s) (how many are we talking about?), that would be part of the arrangement as to where the current content goes. If I recall from my earlier trawl of Unc history, the domain name issue caused the first split back in the day before the 2013 schism over whether Chronarion had the right to profit from it when he sold the domain to Wikia. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 00:20, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
On how many URLs: the only non-wikia.com URL for this wiki is uncyclopedia.org. As I said, no decision has been made for that, but I will bring it up with the BTBs. Interestingly, http://uncyclopedia.wikia.mcdonalds.pepsicola.youradhere.wikia.com also works. -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 17:06, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
I see but what happens to the Uncyclopedia sites with 'wikia' in them - like this one. Will it go to a blank page or redirect to another Fandom site ('Family Friendly Uncyclopedia')?? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:58, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I link here through http://uncyclopedia.wikia.mcdonalds.pepsicola.youradhere.wikia.com all the time. Much easier to type.
Seriously, to me, where uncyclopedia.org goes is a major issue. That was, as far as I know, where it all started, and there are several old professionally-published articles still online that point to uncyclopedia.org. I suspect a significant amount of traffic will go there. Compassrose Tyrophile ALDEN LOVESHADE??? (Also I like cheese)  19:36, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
When we close the wikia.com/fandom.com URLs will point to a "closed wiki" page. Unfortunately there's no option to redirect our URLs to the new wiki. You are welcome to put up a notice on the main page (or elsewhere) pointing to the new wiki. That can stay up until the wiki is closed -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 23:20, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
Wow, I was not expecting this. I don't think merging with .co would be a good option. The two "sides" do not get along and are too different, as has been noted in the past. If we go to Miraheze, I wonder what domain we would pick because uncyclopedia.miraheze.org is already taken. Maybe uncyc.miraheze.org. Custom domains on Miraheze are free and only require going through a process to get them set up, so if Wikia is willing to give up uncyclopedia.org, maybe we could use that. Someone would have to buy it, register it and go through the custom domain process. We could also have our own private MediaWiki instance and keep the user accounts, but someone would have to pay for that and set it up (I could, maybe), and there's the issue of whoever does that having too much power. If we go with option 3, we'll have a tough time with backlinks and search results. I have interwiki access on several of Carlb's sites, so I'll update those to point to wherever we end up. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 01:33 27 February 2019
(For people who aren't familiar with the grand old tradition of indenting responses, this is a response to the top post). I don't want to say I told you so, but...I told you so! A few of saw this happening a couple years or so ago when Wikia officially became Fandom.
Before that were the battles over content. Then there was the warning before you could see anything on Uncyclopedia because it was "adult," which so many people objected to it was removed--meaning this site was doomed.
I was inactive before the Spoon-Fork War, but I read through the history. The big problem seemed to come down to Wikia was putting restrictions on content so some people wanted to leave so they could be free to do as they wanted VS. some people wanted to stay here to keep the site from being ruined by somebody else.
That major issue is now over. Uncyclopedia as it's been will not remain here. Both the spoon and fork have had problems getting more people involved; merging would solve that issue. If you just try to move this somewhere else, you're going to push this site further off the radar.
Yes, a merger will mean personality conflicts, disagreements, etc. (I was once blocked for a while and fully deserved it for being argumentative). But Uncyclopedia was at its participation and creative peak when those conflicts were in full bloom. Comedy is a nasty business; it has to be, or it's not funny. Like it or not, conflict is good for comedy. (If you think you ran into a lot of conflict here, just try doing it professionally).
I've written articles for both the Spork and Foon (whichever is which), and think there's cool people at both sites. This site is going, and might as well merge back with it's other half.
I has spoken. Compassrose IC Buccaneer Admiral A.L.??? (stratagems)  03:34, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
This. Merging with Uncyclopedia.co would be the better option. Wikia/Fandom is excellent at grabbing new users, while Uncyclopedia.co has a pedigree of skilled contributors. Database dumping, such as on Miraheze, would only appeal to the best users here and not much else. I would hope the Uncyclopedia.co community would be willing to amend many previous bans. --— Imdill3 (talk) 04:03, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
Uncyclopedia was at its peak before wikis stopped being trendy and popular. The two sites don't just have insufficient participation -- they're declining. At least they were last I checked. They're not alone in that; so is Wikipedia. Illogicopedia has been declining for years but may have hit a plateau. Neither of those is competing with active forks. If we combined them, we'd get a site that had a larger userbase but was still going downhill and much smaller than it was before. This isn't because of anything specific to Uncyclopedia. It's the medium. It's not cool anymore. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 05:43 27 February 2019
I was a crat on Uncyclopedia.co for two years or so, until the clique that runs the site removed my userrights through Discord voice chat, no vote at all. I spent years of my life tolerating their harassment, their constant bullying and trolling only to be permabanned and the work I did for the site reverted. It is a toxic shithole run by sentient canker sores and you should avoid it at all costs. Now with that being said, reintegrating with .co is the logical choice for the Wikia community, and the least complicated one too. Trying to fork on Miraheze would only lead to the community becoming split, yet again. It's better to come together for once. – roza (talk ☭ ctbslog) 07:05, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
It's a horrible place but you want us to move there anyway? What? The community is already split, and there won't be any more site here for more people to split to. Some people might not stick with us through the move, but they'd still only have two choices of site. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 07:37 27 February 2019
As proof, FANDOM recently published a graph of overall site use. No scale was given of whatever metric was used, but the trend has been clearly downward for years now for all their wikis. FANDOM may be good at getting new users (that follows with new wikis being created) but the graph means they're losing older ones faster. Merger is not a solution to that trend. Again, 2 different cultures, 2 different approaches (with .co not basing themselves around Wikipedia parody these days), and 2 divergent content histories since 2013 also say merger will not work well. --Nigel Scribbler sig2 (talk) 08:42, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
I did say Roza, can we keep this a civil conversation. People here can disagree about issues forcefully without resorting to abuse. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:39, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
I apologize for my harshness. I was just upset I've been shut out and ghosted by a community I was a part of for years. To be honest, I'm sickened by their talk of "community" and "togetherness" considering how poorly they've treated me. Anyway, if you do want to fork to Miraheze I'd be more than glad to help, I have some experience with their site. – roza (talk ☭ ctbslog) 15:00, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Notice [Edit]

We have created a forum on UnMeta to centralize the information regarding this kick by Fandom. After a conclusion is drawn, we'd like it to be posted there so that all the information will be visible on a single page.--The Pioneer JP (talk) 11:23, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
That's fine. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:47, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

An essay from a fork admin or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Spork [Edit]

Fork admin here, though I'm not very active despite reports to the contrary. I just wanted to drop in and offer the perspective of someone who's been working to reunify the two wikis for a while. I assume a post will be written at some point by the fork's server higher-ups in regards to potentially hosting as many foreign language refugee wikis as needed, but my understanding is that the logistics are being worked out and all concerns are being considered before any official promises are made.
As mentioned above, an email was recently (and by complete coincidence) drafted by several of our administrators and sent to Romartus to be shared with the admins here. Uniting the two Uncyclopedias has been a priority for us for a while now, and we're willing to do pretty much whatever it takes to see that it becomes a reality. Obviously there are issues with conflicting articles and edits made since the split. I've spoken with several users on the matter and we're prepared to go through each and every individual edit and manually combine conflicts if the situation ultimately comes to that, should you guys decide to merge with us. Considering activity has dropped off over the last several years for both sites, manually combing through conflicts and performing a clean-up in the process could very well be a breeze, but more pain-free solutions are being considered.
In regards to any differences in opinions or ideals between the userbases, all of us are striving for the same goals and none of these differences (which I personally feel are very overstated) would prevent us from operating as part of a single community once again. Most of us are adults and capable of collaboration and compromising, and while comedy is subjective and our standards are always changing, both sites are still trying to remain a Wikipedia parody first and foremost. That's what sets Uncyclopedia apart from the rest. I've always felt that labeling the fork's content as immature was slightly unjustified (but only slightly), and if it's any consolation, some of the content that Sannse references (primarily the 300+ articles containing the n-word, most of which I imagine doesn't have any comedic merit) were the subject of a recent discussion pertaining to a possible Forest Fire Week-style cleanup of 2008 edgelord cruft, once again by complete coincidence.
Mistakes were made in 2013, and maintaining a better relationship between each side is a big priority for the fork at this point regardless of where this site ends up. But I strongly feel that moving to Miraheze would be a gigantic mistake in the long run. Both of our sites have enough third-party forks, clones, mirrors, off-shoots, and other competitive Uncyclopedias to contend with on Google, and if Uncyclopedia has been struggling to maintain activity and technical quality (such as the Featured Article system being broken) on Wikia, I'm not sure it's going to fare much better on an even smaller wiki farm like Miraheze. Post-split, this community has seemingly focused more of its efforts on writing new articles than the fork's userbase has, so combined with the fork's tech expertise, updated templates & infrastructure, and its social media presence, all of us stand a pretty good chance of coming out on top by working together on this instead of letting these differences in opinion or old interpersonal conflicts get in the way of that. It's entirely possible Uncyclopedia as a whole will fall off in another two or three years regardless, so we might as well make the most of it now and try to prevent that.
If anyone has any questions or concerns, or if you just wanna get to know some of the fork people (taste like fork, talk like people), I definitely recommend hitting us up on either of the two Discord servers posted above. Un-Supergeeky1 (talk) 14:41, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

My life as an Uncyclopedia preteen drama queen [Edit]

Sannse's one of my favorite people on the entire Internet. She helped me grow up online.
I started editing here when I was 12 or 13 and got this account shortly after I turned 14. I was here one day when my parents found out, and kicked me off. My controlling parents gave up trying to control me, sent me to my aunt nannie and uncle commando's house, and I got back on.
A couple admins here kept chewing me out. Another admin kept posting horrible stuff, things that could get a jihad after you. Another one was sexually aggressive to me, and that's when I was 14. I liked the porn, just not the aggression. When I got upset and complained, admins said I was just being a drama queen.
But that's not why I left. I left because my commando uncle insisted on security and privacy, and uncyclopedia didn't like private connections. I had so much trouble logging in I gave up.
Then I came back. I ran into an admin here who was on a power trip, so went to the Fork. They were nice, but that power admin here left. I admin half a dozen wikia wikis, so I came back here.
None of the admins I had problems with on the spoon or the fork are active anymore. Merge Uncyclopedia. Gooble Gobble one of us! AdminBadge DAP Dame Pleb Com. Miley Spears (talk) 17:58, February 27, 2019 (UTC)
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