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Bekir Kaya speedy deletion request[edit]

Dear Lectonar,

I have just created an article about Bekir Kaya, a kurdish politician, a mayor is imprisoned and prosecuted for terrorism because he has built a bridge and allowed that Kurdish fighters who fought IS in Kobane were buried in the cemetery of their hometown with the name Van. It has been requested a speedy deletion for it because of copyright questions. I have cited the sources and I rephrased most of the phrases in order not to have too much similar phrases, but certain phrases are simply fine like they are and there is little need to change too much at them. So I found one phrase which was the really the same, and I rephrased it now, too. Most of the info available in the article can be read in three different sources cited in the article.

Is this enough, or should there be changed more? If it is enough, could you end the speedy deletion request? If there should be changed more, could you please tell me what else is there to change?


--Lean Anael (talk) 01:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Seems to have been sorted via AfD. Lectonar (talk) 09:39, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Lower protection level of Mankatha[edit]

Hi Lectonar, could you take a look at Mankatha and consider unprotecting the page? You set up pending changes protection back in 2015, so it might be worth seeing if the protection is still needed. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 08:03, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Looking at the movement on the page....I think it still warrants pending-changes protection. Lectonar (talk) 09:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

How is the Arbitration Committee not notable please explain[edit]

Hi I did give references that the Arbitration Committee of Wikipedia is clearly notable I don't understand how a global scale notability is addressed but since you're a long time sysop or administrator I just wanted to clear my doubts of how it is not notable enough and not reliable sourced (as in my edit I gave the primary, secondary and tertiary sources to show it is a global and notable event as told by the sources themselves) Best regards (talk) 07:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

The Arbitration Committee might be notable for in-Wikipedia purposes, but surely is not notable in the wide world; plus, it's only the Arbitration Committee of the English-language Wikipedia. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 09:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


I am new in wikipedia page can you help me which rules i will follow Dotgirlfine (talk) 18:16, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Left a link on your talk-page. Lectonar (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

At least now[edit]

people are saying Wikipedia was a true source of information. Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:44, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

We'll see if Wikipedia is still any source of any information after EU’s final Copyright Reform. Lectonar (talk) 14:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Paris Kassidokostas - Latsis[edit]

Thanks for restoring that. The revision history of the page seems to have disappeared though, can you have a look? I wanted to restore it back to a previous version as there's a single purpose account which keeps changing it to a badly formatted mess. Valenciano (talk) 12:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

All this moving about made my head spin...should be ok now. Lectonar (talk) 13:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

MIG-21 Update[edit]

When you locked out any edits to MiG-21, the verified facts about 1999 Atlantique incident between India and Pakistan as well as the table of confirmed air kills were deleted. Please restore it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayonpradhan (talkcontribs) 13:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Please use the article's talk-page to discuss your edits; me restoring any part of the article after having protected it would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 14:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


Hi. A user by the name Sairg is involved in disruptive editing of the page on Sukaphaa. Kindly, go through it. The sources given seemed to be proper with references, but the user is constantly undoing it falsely accusing it to be vandalism. As far as I know, the journey of king Sukapha into Assam has been recorded in different versions. All versions are equally important and therefore all versions have to be added including the one which Sairg thinks is right. I guess he is involved in POV push. It's best if the user is reported. He is involved in disruptive editing in other pages related to the Ahoms too. Check [1] [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbariankiller456 (talkcontribs) 10:25, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Please use the article's talk-page to discuss your edits; me taking sides in editing of the article after having protected it would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Sudeep Karat[edit]

Please check I have provided enough references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talkcontribs) 10:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I just reacted to the moving back and forth from draft to mainspace; I will not participate in the evaluation of the draft, as that would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Can you please check whether there are any issues with references or content?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talkcontribs) 10:59, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
See my answer above; in short: I won't. Lectonar (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
I have understood you OK :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talkcontribs) 11:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Exotic pet[edit]

Thank you for configuring pending changes for the Exotic pet article. Unfortunately, this has not deterred the constant IP vandalism. Without engaging in discussion, IPs (mostly but not exclusively in the same address range) have been repeatedly adding very poor examples to the list of examples of exotic animals kept as pets in households – e.g., whales, porpoises, extremely venomous snakes, and lions. Could you possibly see fit to raise the protection level to require autoconfirmed editors? —BarrelProof (talk) 13:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@BarrelProof: Well, the pending-changes protection does what it's supposed to do: it prevents the changes from going live (normally frustrating as hell for IPs). As for the edits: be so kind to escalate the warnings, and subsequently report the IPs (mainly from the range) to AIV. It could be that a rangeblock is needed. Lectonar (talk) 13:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
OK. Thank you. —BarrelProof (talk) 13:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
I went ahead and applied semi protection to the article for 3 days. Given the edit history, it's clear that there's back-and-forth disruptive editing going on by anonymous users, and at a rate where I feel that it's justified and in order to put a stop to it (at least for now). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough; I just think that protection should be the last resort....if not, why all the other instruments at our back and call? Lectonar (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Protection request[edit]

Hi Lectonar, you recently added extended confirmed protection to Barbara Engelking. Would you consider doing the same to Jan Grabowski (historian)? It is experiencing the same BLP violations for the same reason, namely that the two have edited a collection, Dalej jest noc (2018), that (if I've understood it correctly) criticizes the Polish public's treatment of Jews during the Holocaust. See this edit, for example. SarahSV (talk) 17:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

  • I actually came here to thank Lectonar for the ECP on Engelking. As someone who created the page (which I now almost regret), I felt responsible for protecting the page from antisemitic vandalism. Jan Grabowski (historian)‎ is better watched, but ECP would be beneficial there as well to reduce disruption from accounts with limited track records. --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
    I've had a look at this, and the disruption is...different from the disruption at Barbara Engelking; if Jan Grabowski (historian) is to be protected, ECP-protection would not be enough anyway imho...but discussion is already ongoing. I have added both articles to my watchlist in the meantime. Lectonar (talk) 08:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


Hi, I had requested protection for Invasion of Normandy which it appears you have declined with the reason being that "the users are blocked". The problem is that it is a single person using both IP access and multiple new accounts to repeatedly make the same series of disruptive edits to the page. They already waited out a 1-week protection then immediately went back, hence the reason I requested protection again. The page needs a longer period of protection with a minimum of 'Extended Confirmed User' for access. Thanks - wolf 21:14, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Apart from this one user, there is virtually no disruption of the article which would warrant a protection of the kind you are requesting; instead of locking down a whole article, it is better to block causes much less disruption, and after all: Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit, one of the 5 Pillars. Lectonar (talk) 08:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

TFA being vandalised[edit]

Please address/resolve this page protection request. Dan56 (talk) 13:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Not poorly sourced[edit]

Sir that is not poorly sourced on Bruce Dickinson's page. It is cited to the article The Famous People which is considered reliable in wikipedia community. Also a same kind of statement is added in the page of Freddie Mercury but no one dared to touch that but only in Bruce Dickinson. This is clearly injustice. Injustice against heavy metal vocalists has no place on Wikipedia. Please add that this ain't fair. Flight time broke 3 revert rule but you didn't warn him that is clear injustice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:A38D:A93:A891:1A39:6B2F:8F24 (talk) 16:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Then be so kind and use the talk page of the article to make your point; protecting the page makes me involved now. Lectonar (talk) 16:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Nice Job![edit]

Thanks for your swift response to my WP:RFPP earlier, I really appreciate it. Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 18:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


you didn't look at the last 12 months, but then again, I didn't take (waste) time assembling diffs for what should be obvious. So nevermind. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I like your attempt at online mind-reading, but you're quite wrong; I did indeed look at the last 12 months (and more) of both articles, but perhaps your definition what constitutes a relevant disruption warranting semi-protection does differ from what our protection policy says. Persistent the disruption might be, but it is also rather slow. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 13:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Bayan Fenwick[edit]

Hi there, I see you rejected my request to semi-protect Bayan Fenwick as there had not been enough disruption but I disagree. Most days I have to keep changing it back and the vandalism has continued since. I ask if you can please rethink your decision. Thanks, Cam (talk) 11:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Cazza3012: I beg to 2019 (3 months and running), there were exactly 6 (!) instances of edits by IPs. I really do not see how this might be described as "most days". While you're at it, please have a read of our protection policy. Lectonar (talk) 07:16, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


Hello. I've read on the internet, that Csaba Gyüre is selected in the Jobbik's parliament in Hungary. Here is a proof: It's an hungarian language, so the Jobbik's mandate is 22 again, not 21. I've just saying that. That's all, have nice day. --PD55ZG (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Then put the source in the article, and it's fine. Lectonar (talk) 08:04, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


There's more disruption. WBGconverse 13:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Back from your wikibreak? I've semied for 3 days now...Lectonar (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Lock template[edit]

I noticed some of the pages you've protected recently don't have the little lock template. I assumed that happened automatically (or by twinkle magic), but I thought Katie Bouman wasn't protected because it didn't have the lock template, and it turned out it was just invisibly-protected. Is this a thing you're doing on purpose, or just an oversight? Natureium (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Natureium: Being an old coot, I use neither twinkle nor huggle, but still do every edit manually. Afair, these little locks are put on protected pages by a bot (though this may take some time). Plus, after reading our protection policy (again), use of the locks is not mandatory. I for one always look at the logs of the page. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 07:17, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

FYI at RFPP[edit]

Hi Lectonar! I hope you're having a great day and that life is treating you well. :-) I hope you don't mind, but I reviewed the protection request regarding NSE co-location scam, and I felt that applying full protection was necessary in this situation to put a stop to the ongoing edit warring and disruption. I noted my actions here, and I added that having an AN3 report filed in addition to applying full protection was a good idea. If I stepped on any of your toes here, or if you have questions, objections, concerns, comments, etc - please don't hesitate to let me know (just ping me if you respond here), and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. I doubt you'll mind that I did this, but I wanted to let you know just in case. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:08, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

As I always say...I (almost) never mind if my admin-decisions are overturned, but thanks for letting me know. Protect away. Lectonar (talk) 11:34, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
"I doubt you'll mind that I did this.." ...sometimes like WikiYoda I feel. Lectonar (talk) 12:12, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
LOL. No problem, and thanks for understanding. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:26, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

German to English[edit]

Request translation: de:Jakob Schmid (Pedell) (Jakob Schmid), de:Henning von Thadden (Henning von Thadden). Thank you. -- 16:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Please see this; asking someone directly is the last option, as we're all volunteers here. Looking at the German articles, they lack a bit in what we consider reliable sources, so some digging would be necessary too. It's not high on my bucket list to be honest. Lectonar (talk) 07:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Rama Arbitration Case[edit]

You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rama. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rama/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 10, 2019, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rama/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Previous listing as a party[edit]

My apologies for the above section stating that you are a party. You are not, I made a mistake with the template. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:51, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Well...I had an opinion as a non-involved-party, so I will have a look after all. Thx for the heads-up. Lectonar (talk) 06:50, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

More popular than Jesus[edit]

Hi Lectonar. Could I ask that you lower the protection level for this article and allow logged-in users to continue trying to improve the text? As user:ILIL stated at WP:RFPP/A, there is no dispute at the article other than an IP user continually adding the same irrelevant and poorly sourced detail. ILIL and Ritchie333, I believe, have been doing a good job in keeping the user's efforts at bay. We're now discussing larger issues about the article at the talk page, none of which have been the cause of serious disruption. Preventing any editor bar an admin from working on the article for three days is completely unnecessary. Thanks, JG66 (talk) 02:03, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Actually...I am happy that the talk-page is now used to good effect, but talk-page interaction only started after the full-protection was implemented. Why is the need for editing the article so great now that it can't wait for another 48 or so hours? And as an uninvolved party, I must say that I saw more disruption than just by the IPs. Feel free to come up with a solution on the talk-page, and ping me afterwards. Or let the protection run down its time. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 06:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
"... talk-page interaction only started after the full-protection was implemented." Yes, exactly – one of the editors involved in a dispute about the lead (I didn't mean to play down ongoing disagreements over the lead, btw, I wasn't fully aware of that issue; I was focusing on the edit warring as a result of the IP user's repeated additions) requested full page protection before even raising the issue on the talk page or discussing it on the other editor's talk page. Since when does that happen? FPP should be a last resort, after all attempts at communication have broken down; in this case, no one even bothered to start a discussion. Christ's sake ....
Why can't it wait for another 48 or so hours? Well, I want to expand the article now and I don't believe any of my additions have been or will be contentious – I've no interest in the lead until the main body has some of the important content that's missing – and I don't see any good reason why I or any other editor who's not invested in the lead issue can't do so. JG66 (talk) 08:37, 3 May 2019 (UTC) is unprotected now. Lectonar (talk) 06:50, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Undelete Request[edit]

Kindly take a look at my article undelete request of Faizullah Arain

Seems to be sorted. Lectonar (talk) 06:43, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Reset protection settings on Brad Marchand[edit]

Just as an FYI, I converted your pending changes protection on Brad Marchand to semi-protection. There's no actually useful edits coming in from IPs and it's been lighting up my watchlist lately. I hope you don't mind. Maxim(talk) 00:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Maxim: No, I do not mind, but somehow the approach of some admins to protection seems to have should be the exception, not a rule, and keeping IPs completely out goes straigt against the five pillars. That is why I find pending-protection useful...just semiprotecting an article because there was no useful IP edit in a while while disruption overall would normally not warrant semiprotection, and it kind of popped up on a watchlist....just leaves me baffled. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 07:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Regarding RPP[edit]

Hi Lectonar, you declined my request for page protection of User:Optakeover/Barnstars and Awards ([3]). I would like to ask if you could clarify why exactly you declined my request, especially because I requested protection of my user space sub-page per WP:UPROT. Optakeover(U)(T)(C) 05:17, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Also I have approached Oshwah and he has already helped me to protect the page. Optakeover(U)(T)(C) 05:22, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
The reason I declined is exactly here....User pages and subpages may be protected upon a request from the user, as long as a need exists—pages in user space should not be automatically or pre-emptively protected. Requests for protection specifically at uncommon levels (such as template protection) may be granted if the user has expressed a genuine and realistic need. There was no reason given, so no need expressed, and as there was no disruption there was no protection; nice of @Oshwah: to protect it. Lectonar (talk) 07:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Unda (film)[edit]

Dear Lectonar,

I request you to go through the deleted article another time and have a look at it. It says User:AhamBrahmasmi created before being unblocked and banned, and therefore instead of deleting the article please block the user from any further editing on this page. Understanding the importance of what the article has in India, I request you to reconsider the deletion. Regards. 2405:204:D183:DAB4:1824:E0CF:CE55:3AE6 (talk) 10:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

It's done.. I misread the year of creation. Thank you. Lectonar (talk) 10:46, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for your comment there, which is spot on. It is quite unfortunate that this user conflict has swapped over to english wp. Cheers, Stefan64 (talk) 11:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thx for that; yeah, I looked up the whole unfortunate series of events...Lectonar (talk) 11:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Move GOOD TV[edit]

Hi, please move Good TV for me. There's some problem with the temmplates showed weird stuff. I'll try to fix that later, or if you know how, please go ahead. Thanks! Mistakefinder (talk) 10:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Never mind. I'm taking care of it now. Thanks! Mistakefinder (talk) 03:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)