Dundee United F.C.
|Latest meeting||Dundee 0–2 Dundee United|
2019–20 Scottish Championship
(8 November 2019)
|Next meeting||Dundee United vs. Dundee|
2019–20 Scottish Championship
(27 December 2019)
|Stadiums||Dens Park (Dundee FC)|
Tannadice Park (Dundee United)
|Most wins||Dundee United (80)|
|All-time series||Dundee United: 80|
|Largest victory||Dundee 0 - 5 Dundee United |
Scottish Division One
(11 September 1965)
- 1 History
- 2 Statistics
- 3 Team records
- 4 Players at both clubs
- 5 Goal scorer records
- 6 Full game list
- 7 References
Dundee is the older of the two, having been founded in 1893, compared to Dundee United which was founded in 1909 as Dundee Hibernian following the demise of Dundee Harp, a club founded by Irish immigrants in 1879. While United's origins stem from Irish immigration, the rivalry is not sectarian in the manner of the Old Firm.
Dundee had long been the more successful club, playing more seasons in the top flight than their rivals and winning one League title, one Scottish Cup and three League Cups before United lifted a major trophy. However, from the 1970s under Jim McLean the tide turned in the city's footballing rivalry. United would go on to be a major force in Scottish football in the 1980s, winning their first three major honours at Dens Park including a League Cup win against Dundee in 1980; the 1983 league title was also won there. Their rivalry with Aberdeen, who also lifted several trophies during the period, was entitled the New Firm. In 1994 United won their first Scottish Cup, and their second in 2010, in doing so drawing level with Dundee on five major trophies won.
The two grounds are the closest League grounds in Britain and with it a unique rivalry has developed, though one often deemed more amicable than most, similar to the Merseyside derby, Derby della Madonnina in Milan, and the Derby della Lanterna of Genoa with many families split down the middle in support.
In domestic head-to-head matches, United are quite far in front; the teams have played each other 167 times, Dundee United winning 78 compared to Dundee's 48. A total of 41 matches have ended in a stalemate. Dundee United have won more league, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.
- As of 8 November 2019
|Team||League||Scottish Cup||League Cup||Total|
|Dundee United F.C.||65||8||7|
Dundee have competed in more seasons of top flight football with 93 in total to United's 58, but United have maintained a better points to game average in the top tier. Both clubs have won the Scottish league championship once, Dundee in 1962 and United in 1983. The clubs also sometimes meet in league games outside the top tier, as in 1995–96 and 2019–20.
All-time top flight table (1890/91-present – 124th Season)
- As of 27 October 2019:
Scottish Premiership Table (2013/14–present – 7th Season)
- As of 27 October 2019:
SPL Table (1998/99-2012/13 – 15 Seasons)
Premier Division Table (1975/76-1997/98 – 23 Seasons)
Division One table (1890/91-1974/75 – 78 Seasons)
Scottish Cup (1873/74-present – 135th Season)
In the Scottish Cup, Dundee have competed in 108 tournaments, reaching 5 cup finals. They were cup winners in 1910 as well as runners-up in 1925, 1952, 1964 and 2003. Dundee United have competed in 88 tournaments, reaching twice as many cup finals as Dundee. They were cup winners in 1994 and 2010 as well as runners up in 1974, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1991 (being unable to secure that trophy in six finals under otherwise successful boss Jim McLean), 2005 and 2014.
- As of 27 October 2019:
League Cup (1946/47-present – 74th Season)
In the League Cup, Dundee have been the winners on three occasions, in 1951–52, 1952–53 and 1973–74, they were also runners-up in 1967–68, 1980–81 and 1995–96. Dundee United meanwhile have won it twice, in 1979–80 and 1980–81, and were runners-up in 1981–82, 1984–85, 1997–98, 2007–08, and 2014–15 (losing to either Rangers or Celtic on every occasion).
- As of 27 October 2019:
In European competition, Dundee United have played in more tournaments and in more games, competing in 26 tournaments to Dundee's 7, and playing in 78 more matches. Neither side has won a trophy, although United were runners-up in the 1986–87 UEFA Cup; both sides have reached the semi-finals of the European Cup once.
- As of 9 August 2012:
Trophy cabinet comparison
Both clubs have won 5 major Scottish football trophies.
|Club||League Champions||Scottish Cup Winners||League Cup Winners||Total|
|Dundee||1961–62||1909–10||1951–52, 1952–53, 1973–74|
|Dundee United||1982–83||1993–94, 2009–10||1979–80, 1980–81|
The following are records just for the Dundee derby itself:
- The longest unbeaten run in all matches is 13, held by United, this was between December 1979 and September 1983, 11 of these were Wins.
- The longest unbeaten run in home matches is held by Dundee when United failed to beat them for 14 games between November 1925 and August 1962.
- The longest unbeaten run in away matches is held by United with a 12 match run at Dens Park between April 1963 and April 1971 which included 8 victories.
- The longest unbroken winning run in all matches belongs to United with 7 between March 1988 and April 1989.
- The longest unbroken winning run at home belongs to United with 6 between September 1974 and September 1981.
- The longest unbroken winning run away from home belongs to United who scored 8 consecutive victories at Dens Park between December 1980 and November 1984.
- The record home victory in a league match is 5–0 recorded by Dundee at Dens Park in August 1926
- The record away victory in a league match is 5–0 recorded by United at Dens Park in September 1965.
- The highest scoring match was in September 1971 when Dundee won 6–4 at Dens Park.
- Paul Sturrock of United holds the mark for the most derby goals with 14, 2 of these came in United's 3–0 League Cup Final win over Dundee at Dens Park in December 1980.
- Record Attendance:
- 29,106 at Dens Park, 14 May 1983 (Premier Division)
- 21,325 at Tannadice, 3 January 1966 (old Division One)
- Lowest Attendance:
- 9,185 at Tannadice, 12 December 1999 (SPL)
- 7,645 at Dens Park, 29 January 1994 (Premier Division)
Players at both clubs
Fourteen players have signed for Dundee United directly from Dundee with eight making the opposite journey from Tannadice to Dens Park. Only players who have played at least one first team game for both clubs are currently included.
Dundee to Dundee United
Dundee United to Dundee
In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.
Goal scorer records
|Scorer||Team(s)||League||Scottish Cup||League Cup||Total|
|Paul Sturrock||Dundee United||11||1||2||14|
|Kenny Cameron||Dundee United
|Ian Mitchell||Dundee United||8||–||1||9|
|Eamonn Bannon||Dundee United||7||2||–||9|
|Ralph Milne||Dundee United||8||–||–||8|
|Billy Dodds||Dundee United
|Dennis Gillespie||Dundee United||5||–||1||6|
|John Clark||Dundee United||5||1||-||6|
|Willie Pettigrew||Dundee United||1||4||-||5|
|Mixu Paatelainen||Dundee United||5||–||-||5|
|Paddy Connolly||Dundee United||5||–||-||5|
|Jim McIntyre||Dundee United||5||–||-||5|
Full game list
Fixtures from 1925 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches. Friendlies, testimonials and other non-competitive games are not included. Dundee wins are coloured in blue, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey. Note that United played in white until 1969 but tangerine is used throughout for ease.
|Date||Competition||Venue||Result||Crowd||Scorers (Dundee)||Scorers (United)|
|21 Nov 1925||Division One||Dens||18,000|
|4 Jan 1926||Division One||Tannadice||20,059||Davie McLean|
|28 Aug 1926||Division One||Dens||20,000||Andy Campbell(4), Jim Meagher|
|3 Jan 1927||Division One||Tannadice||20,000||Jock Kay|
|4 Feb 1928||Scottish Cup R2||Tannadice||20,365||George Lawley, Fred Whitlow(2)||Jacky Kay, Hutchison (2)|
|8 Feb 1928||Scottish Cup R2 r||Dens||12,839||Willie O'Hare|
|16 Feb 1929||Scottish Cup R3||Dens||24,000||George Lawley||Hutchison|
|20 Feb 1929||Scottish Cup R3 r||Tannadice||14,000||Henderson|
|31 Aug 1929||Division One||Dens||14,200||Frank Townrow|
|11 Jan 1930||Division One||Tannadice||16,000||Andy Campbell|
|12 Sep 1931||Division One||Dens||17,000||Andy Campbell||Brant|
|2 Jan 1932||Division One||Tannadice||16,000||Andy Campbell(2), Davie Balfour|
|17 Sep 1938||Division Two||Tannadice||10,523||Woolley (2), Meikleham|
|18 Mar 1939||Division Two||Dens||12,500||Charlie McGillivray, Bobby Wilson|
|24 Aug 1946||Division Two||Tannadice||21,000||Bert Juliussen, Ronnie Turnbull||Mackay|
|1 Jan 1947||Division Two||Dens||24,000||Ronnie Turnbull, Ernie Ewen|
|27 Jan 1951||Scottish Cup R1||Dens||38,000||Alfie Boyd, Ernie Ewen||McKay, Dunsmore|
|31 Jan 1951||Scottish Cup R1 r||Tannadice||22,000||Steel|
|4 Feb 1956||Scottish Cup R5||Tannadice||20,000||Ian Stables, George Merchant||Milne (2)|
|8 Feb 1956||Scottish Cup R5 r||Dens||17,000||George Merchant, Ian Stables, Bobby Henderson|
|12 Sep 1956||League Cup QF-1||Dens||20,000||Black, Christie, Chalmers(3), O'Hara, Merchant||Sturrock, Reid (2)|
|15 Sep 1956||League Cup QF-2||Tannadice||14,000||George Merchant||Reid, Milne|
|17 Sep 1960||Division One||Tannadice||20,000||Andy Penman||Briggs, Campbell (2)|
|7 Jan 1961||Division One||Dens||22,000||Bobby Wishart(2), Bobby Adamson|
|9 Sep 1961||Division One||Dens||18,765||Penman, Smith, Briggs O.G., Robertson||Gillespie|
|9 Apr 1962||Division One||Tannadice||21,138||Gilzean (2)||Irvine|
|11 Aug 1962||League Cup Grp 2||Tannadice||22,917||Gilzean (2)||Carlyle (2), Irvine|
|25 Aug 1962||League Cup Grp 2||Dens||18,493||Smith (2)||Irvine|
|15 Sep 1962||Division One||Tannadice||15,627||Cousin||Carlyle|
|17 Apr 1963||Division One||Dens||14,967||Bobby Waddell||Mochan, Mitchell|
|14 Sep 1963||Division One||Dens||20,945||Gilzean||Mitchell|
|2 Jan 1964||Division One||Tannadice||21,255||Gilzean||Mitchell (2)|
|8 Aug 1964||League Cup Grp 4||Dens||16,773||Penman, Bobby Waddell||Gillespie, Thom, Munro|
|22 Aug 1964||League Cup Grp 4||Tannadice||14,519||Alex Stuart||Graham, Munro|
|12 Sep 1964||Division One||Tannadice||16,838||Alan Cousin, Bobby Waddell, Jocky Scott(2)||Thom|
|24 Mar 1965||Division One||Dens||16,958||Charlie Cooke, Kenny Cameron||Persson (2), Gillespie, Døssing|
|18 Aug 1965||League Cup Grp 1||Dens||23,095|
|1 Sep 1965||League Cup Grp 1||Tannadice||18,705||Kenny Cameron(2), Steve Murray||Mitchell|
|11 Sep 1965||Division One||Dens||15,058||Døssing (3), Gillespie, Wing|
|3 Jan 1966||Division One||Tannadice||21,325||Steve Murray||Mitchell, Seemann|
|13 Aug 1966||League Cup Grp 1||Tannadice||13,867||Persson, Hainey|
|27 Aug 1966||League Cup Grp 1||Dens||10,087||Andy Penman||Hainey|
|17 Sep 1966||Division One||Tannadice||10,198||Kenny Cameron, Andy Penman(2), Derek McKay||Mitchell|
|3 Jan 1967||Division One||Dens||17,286||Jocky Scott, Alex Bryce||Graham (3)|
|16 Sep 1967||Division One||Dens||13,186||Jim McLean, Jocky Scott||Briggs, Millar|
|2 Jan 1968||Division One||Tannadice||14,014|
|14 Sep 1968||Division One||Tannadice||13,942||Roddy Georgeson||Mitchell, Wood, Cameron|
|2 Jan 1969||Division One||Dens||19,549||Alex Bryce||Mitchell, Hogg|
|20 Sep 1969||Division One||Dens||11,888||Gordon Wallace||Gordon, Gillespie|
|3 Jan 1970||Division One||Tannadice||16,891||Gordon Wallace||Cameron (2), og, Wilson|
|12 Sep 1970||Division One||Tannadice||12,319||Joe Gilroy, Jocky Scott||Cameron, Gillespie, Gordon|
|5 Apr 1971||Division One||Dens||11,590||Jocky Scott, Jim Steele||Cameron, Gordon, Reid|
|11 Sep 1971||Division One||Dens||13,818||Alex Bryce(2), Jocky Scott(2), Gordon Wallace(2)||Gordon, Rolland (2), Smith|
|3 Jan 1972||Division One||Tannadice||16,954||Jim Steele||Cameron|
|16 Sep 1972||Division One||Tannadice||12,071||Bobby Ford||Gardner, White|
|6 Jan 1973||Division One||Dens||13,570||John Duncan(2), Doug Houston|
|15 Sep 1973||Division One||Dens||12,092||Smith|
|5 Jan 1974||Division One||Tannadice||12,087||John Duncan(2)||Gardner|
|14 Sep 1974||Division One||Tannadice||10,857||Gray (2), Munro|
|4 Jan 1975||Division One||Dens||16,184||Gordon Wallace, Ian Anderson|
|18 Oct 1975||Premier Division||Dens||11,327||Gordon Wallace, Wilson Hoggan||Houston|
|20 Dec 1975||Premier Division||Dens||9,957|
|28 Feb 1976||Premier Division||Tannadice||10,199||McAdam|
|21 Apr 1976||Premier Division||Dens||13,768||Gemmell, Sinclair||Hall|
|11 Aug 1979||Premier Division||Tannadice||17,968||Sturrock, Kirkwood, Stark|
|20 Oct 1979||Premier Division||Dens||16,305||Sinclair|
|22 Dec 1979||Premier Division||Tannadice||15,431||Holt, Pettigrew|
|30 Jan 1980||Scottish Cup R3||Tannadice||18,604||Pirie||Pettigrew (4), Sturrock|
|1 Mar 1980||Premier Division||Dens||15,110||Shirra||Sturrock|
|6 Dec 1980||League Cup Final||Dens||24,466||Dodds, Sturrock (2)|
|12 Sep 1981||Premier Division||Tannadice||15,696||Ferguson, Mackie||Kirkwood, Sturrock (2), Milne, Bannon|
|14 Nov 1981||Premier Division||Dens||15,578||Ferguson||Milne, Sturrock (2)|
|10 Mar 1982||Premier Division||Tannadice||13,790||Ferguson||og|
|3 Apr 1982||Premier Division||Dens||12,602||Bannon, Sturrock|
|30 Oct 1982||Premier Division||Tannadice||14,959||Dodds|
|1 Jan 1983||Premier Division||Dens||18,109||Milne (2)|
|12 Mar 1983||Premier Division||Tannadice||13,448||Fraser, Ferguson, Kidd||Gough (2), Reilly, Hegarty, Dodds|
|14 May 1983||Premier Division||Dens||29,106||Ferguson||Milne, Bannon|
|3 Sep 1983||Premier Division||Dens||13,651||McCall||Reilly (2), Milne, Stark|
|5 Nov 1983||Premier Division||Tannadice||14,813||Mackie|
|2 Apr 1984||Premier Division||Dens||12,732||Ferguson (2)||Malpas, Reilly, Dodds, Bannon, Milne|
|21 Apr 1984||Premier Division||Tannadice||13,244||McCall||Clark|
|8 Sep 1984||Premier Division||Tannadice||14,190||McWilliams, McKinlay, Harris, Brown||Clark (2), Sturrock|
|10 Nov 1984||Premier Division||Dens||14,423||Gough, Coyne|
|3 Apr 1985||Premier Division||Tannadice||15,167||Bannon, Sturrock, Taylor, Dodds|
|11 May 1985||Premier Division||Dens||13,426||Connor|
|24 Aug 1985||Premier Division||Tannadice||13,736||Beedie, Sturrock|
|16 Nov 1985||Premier Division||Dens||11,736||Hegarty (2), Kirkwood|
|28 Dec 1985||Premier Division||Tannadice||14,869|
|29 Mar 1986||Premier Division||Dens||15,079||Gough|
|6 Sep 1986||Premier Division||Dens||12,379||Milne, Bannon|
|8 Nov 1986||Premier Division||Tannadice||11,728||Harvey (2), Shannon|
|10 Mar 1987||Premier Division||Dens||11,615||Brown||Gallacher|
|28 Mar 1987||Premier Division||Tannadice||12,220||Rafferty||og|
|11 Apr 1987||Scottish Cup SF||Tynecastle||13,319||Coyne, Wright||I.Ferguson (2), Hegarty|
|2 Sep 1987||League Cup QF||Dens||
|3 Oct 1987||Premier Division||Dens||11,497||Coyne||I.Ferguson|
|28 Nov 1987||Premier Division||Tannadice||13,626||Coyne (2), Wright||Clark|
|16 Jan 1988||Premier Division||Dens||13,644||Paatelainen, Bannon|
|12 Mar 1988||Scottish Cup QF||Dens||19,355|
|15 Mar 1988||Scottish Cup QF r||Tannadice||
|19,102||Harvey (2)||Bannon (2)|
|28 Mar 1988||Scottish Cup QF r2||Dens||19,152||McLeod, Redford, I.Ferguson|
|2 Apr 1988||Premier Division||Tannadice||13,876||French|
|3 Sep 1988||Premier Division||Dens||14,927||Paatelainen (2), Gallacher|
|5 Nov 1988||Premier Division||Tannadice||14,882||Meade, Paatelainen|
|7 Jan 1989||Premier Division||Dens||16,332||French|
|28 Jan 1989||Scottish Cup R3||Dens||18,117||Angus||Bowman, Meade|
|8 Apr 1989||Premier Division||Tannadice||11,912||Saunders||Sturrock, Gallacher|
|19 Aug 1989||Premier Division||Dens||13,623||Wright(3), McBride||Malpas, O'Neill, Paatelainen|
|28 Oct 1989||Premier Division||Tannadice||11,528|
|30 Dec 1989||Premier Division||Dens||12,805||Chisholm||Jackson|
|20 Jan 1990||Scottish Cup R3||Dens||14,276|
|23 Jan 1990||Scottish Cup R3 r||Tannadice||15,503||Clark|
|24 Mar 1990||Premier Division||Tannadice||11,918||Wright, Shannon||Connolly|
|13 Mar 1991||Scottish Cup QF||Tannadice||16,228||Dodds||McKinnon, Jackson, D.Ferguson|
|19 Sep 1992||Premier Division||Tannadice||12,622||Dodds|
|21 Nov 1992||Premier Division||Dens||11,116||Dodds||Bollan, Connolly, Clark|
|27 Feb 1993||Premier Division||Tannadice||12,140||D.Ferguson|
|20 Apr 1993||Premier Division||Dens||9,589||Connolly, Dailly (2), Bollan|
|11 Sep 1993||Premier Division||Tannadice||10,283||McLaren|
|7 Dec 1993||Premier Division||Dens||9,256||Farningham||Brewster, Connolly|
|5 Feb 1994||Premier Division||Tannadice||10,622||Ristić||Connolly|
|29 Mar 1994||Premier Division||Dens||7,645||Duffy||Brewster|
|30 Sep 1995||First Division||Dens||10,395||Hamilton (2)||McKinlay (3)|
|18 Nov 1995||First Division||Tannadice||10,682||Shaw (2), Wieghorst||Brewster, Malpas|
|9 Jan 1996||First Division||Dens||9,199||Winters (2)|
|16 Mar 1996||First Division||Tannadice||9,669||Brewster, McSwegan|
|3 Sep 1996||League Cup R3||Tannadice||
2 – 4 p
|11,839||Hamilton (2)||Coyle, McSwegan|
|19 Sep 1998||Premier League||Dens||12,081||Annand, Adamczuk||McSwegan, Olofsson|
|22 Nov 1998||Premier League||Tannadice||11,230||Grady|
|2 Jan 1999||Premier League||Dens||11,751||McSkimming||Dodds, Thompson, Olofsson|
|1 May 1999||Premier League||Tannadice||12,280||Irvine, Grady|
|31 Jul 1999||Premier League||Tannadice||11,693||Falconer||Skoldmark, Ferraz|
|17 Oct 1999||Premier League||Dens||9,484||Dodds, Thompson|
|12 Dec 1999||Premier League||Tannadice||9,185||Ferraz|
|6 May 2000||Premier League||Dens||8,581||Falconer (2), Grady|
|20 Sep 2000||Premier League||Dens||9,838||Sara (3)|
|11 Nov 2000||Premier League||Tannadice||11,454||Caniggia, Nemsadze|
|31 Jan 2001||Premier League||Dens||11,724||Caniggia, Falconer||Davidson, Easton, Lauchlan|
|28 Jul 2001||Premier League||Tannadice||13,327||Sara, Rae||Miller, Hamilton|
|3 Nov 2001||Premier League||Dens||11,751||Carranza||Miller|
|19 Jan 2002||Premier League||Tannadice||12,851||McIntyre|
|20 Apr 2002||Premier League||Dens||10,087||Wilkie (og)|
|31 Aug 2002||Premier League||Tannadice||12,402|
|23 Nov 2002||Premier League||Dens||11,539||Caballero (2), Hernandez||Hamilton, McIntyre|
|9 Feb 2003||Premier League||Tannadice||10,457||Novo||Mackay (og)|
|26 Oct 2003||Premier League||Tannadice||12,292||Novo||McIntyre|
|25 Jan 2004||Premier League||Dens||10,747||Novo, Lovell||Dodds|
|11 Apr 2004||Premier League||Tannadice||9,571||Lovell, Milne||Dodds (2)|
|15 Aug 2004||Premier League||Tannadice||11,118||Lovell, Sutton||Archibald|
|6 Nov 2004||Premier League||Dens||9,845||Sutton|
|29 Jan 2005||Premier League||Tannadice||12,703||McManus, Lovell||Duff, McIntyre|
|30 Apr 2005||Premier League||Dens||11,263||Lovell||Wilson, McIntyre|
|19 Aug 2012||Premier League||Tannadice||13,538||Gunning, Russell (2)|
|9 Dec 2012||Premier League||Dens||11,419||Watson, Daly, Flood|
|3 Mar 2013||Scottish Cup QF||Dens||10,191||McAlister||McLean, Mackay-Steven|
|17 Mar 2013||Premier League||Tannadice||10,731||Conroy||Gardyne|
|21 Sep 2014||Premiership||Dens||11,447||Stewart||Bilate, Dow, Morris, Watson|
|24 Sep 2014||League Cup R3||Tannadice||13,041||Fojut|
|1 Jan 2015||Premiership||Tannadice||12,964||Stewart, Tankulic||Armstrong, Mackay-Steven (2), Erskine, Fojut, Telfer|
|8 Apr 2015||Premiership||Dens||10,515||Stewart McPake, Heffernan||Çiftçi|
|24 May 2015||Premiership||Tannadice||10,812||Çiftçi (2), Spittal|
|11 Aug 2015||Premiership||Tannadice||11,835||Stewart, McPake||Spittal (2)|
|2 Jan 2016||Premiership||Dens||11,025||Hemmings, Ross||Spittal|
|20 Mar 2016||Premiership||Tannadice||11,603||Hemmings (2)||McKay (2)|
|2 May 2016||Premiership||Dens||10,088||Gadzhalov, Wighton||Ofere|
|30 July 2017||League Cup Grp C||Dens||
3 – 4 p
|09 Aug 2017||League Cup R2||Dens||10,472||El Bakhtaoui, McGowan||King|
|30 Aug 2019||Championship||Tannadice||14,108||Hemmings, Nelson||Butcher (2), Appéré, Shankland, Harkes, Smith|
|08 Nov 2019||Championship||Dens||11,233||Clark, Shankland|
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