Talk:Bowing

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Needs more[edit]

Needs more than Japan, plenty other places/cultures have this as well!!

Not worth putting in the article, but…[edit]

I remember when those three captured aid workers or whatever from Japan had just been released a year or so ago. I saw footage of them coming off the plane; the woman was crying, and all of them seemed to be bowing about as far as they could without falling over. I assume this was an apology or out of embarrassment or something—y'know, for kind of "shaming" the country or whatever by having to be rescued like that or whatever after being told not to go.

I just thought that was interesting. -Dan 03:52, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Needs a picture[edit]

This article is sorely in need of illustration. I can't find anything appropriate on Commons.--MichaelMaggs 17:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

In relation to performances?[edit]

Not sure where to place in the article (as it might be an exclusivly Western practice, or not) but mention somewhere that bowing is most commonly seen in most people's lives after some sort of play or show? Finnegar 06:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Bowing in Vietnam?[edit]

I'm not sure, but are Vietnamese children instructed to bow when they greet adults? I've been taught that way, as have most of the Vietnamese people I know...

Can anyone clarify this? 220.245.18.223 09:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Bowing in Britain[edit]

In the movie of "Shakespeare in Love (1998)", I found people were bowing deeply, sometime it was deeper than Japanese, nearly right angle, when they talk to the Queen. Probably it is during 16th centry. Please someone check this movie and find any historical evidence, then write here. -- briosis 04:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Interestingly, in the new film 'The Queen' Tony Blair is instructed to bow from the neck only when meeting the Queen. Personally, I think that a section on bowing in Britain would be quite interesting, not that I really feel equipped to write it!Ewan carmichael 14:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

MAJOR Edits need to be done[edit]

The article on the "bow" of Japanese culture needs to be drastically edited. Why? Because the majority of the points made in this article do not only pertain to the Japanese culture but as well as to other East Asian cultures, most notably to the Chinese and the Korean.

The whole blurb on the Chinese bow is also greatly misinformed. Something tells me there is a POV case here. If there are no objections, I believe a drastic edit should be done as soon as possible. Kindahypertonic 06:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I doubt that Asian bowing had its origins in Japan (and diffused to Korea etc by ways of colonisation) - the author took this idea where from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.56.122.57 (talk) 16:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


Private photo included, and addressing issues[edit]

Kindahypertonic, I have addressed the issue of improving some of the quality standards, I have included a photo taken in South Korea (Although I subtitled it greeting just to relate bowing as a form of greeting also). Also the blurb on the Chinese bow has been expanded, since I actually know what goes on inside South Korea and the Seoul National University exchange programme to Bejing in China.

But aside from that, lets also grid the coding on the paragraphs, it seems a bit tacky. Or perhaps, before we engage in further editing we should have a party-member talk here between you and I. Thank you. ( Seong0980 03:04, 30 January 2007 (UTC) )

Also, can anyone help me out on the Persian 'bowing' (I need the name for it), it was included in Alexander the Great's Fusion Policy of Greek/Macedonians with Persians after his conquer of the Persian Empire. ( Seong0980 03:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC) )

In the Korea part, should we also include the drinking (toats), when your drink has to be lower than the older persion while toasting. ( Seong0980 05:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC) )

Thai wai[edit]

Surprised there isn't some mention of the Thai version of bowing (though maybe you could argue it isn't really a bow?). Don't have time to look at it myself, but I'm sure info could be lifted from another Wikipedia article. ☸ Moilleadóir 04:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Bowing in Western Culture[edit]

Why isn't there anything about bowing in Western culture, specifically in Europe? I know that there has historically been many varieties of bows in that context, and of course bowing towards royalty is still expected. Yet today the custom has largely died out in every day practice, which I think makes it all the more necessary to have a section about it - so that readers can gain insight into cultural and literary references to bows. Maethordaer 07:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

In reading an historic account from the 1790s, I came across a reference to "one of Bunburry’s long bows" - does anyone know who Bunburry might be? 203.17.70.161 03:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Title of the page[edit]

What precedent is keeping this page named 'Bowing (social)'. Shouldn't it just be called Bowing? There's a link at the top to the musical bow which is the only other form of bowing there is. Also, the article isn't just about the social implications of this movement, but the overall cultural significance of it. What are your thoughts on changing the name? Has this already been talked about in the past? Wes!Tsmall> 00:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Physical descriptions[edit]

One thing which seems sorely lacking from this article is descriptions of how bows differ across East Asia. In Japan, men bow with their hands at their sides, and women bow with their hands folded atop one another in front of them. In some other cultures, I'll admit, I'm not sure which, it is customary to place your hands together in front of you, in a gesture resembling Christian prayer, while bowing. Pictures would be great too. LordAmeth 13:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Automatic bowing[edit]

Hi, in Korea, you usually bow when greeting older people. I even do it when I'm answering the telephone... And it's not just me; this was covered in the documentary version of Desmond Morris's Manwatching, where a woman was shown doing the same at a Korean phone booth. --Kjoonlee 21:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering[edit]

In the anime and manga Hellsing, bowing is a really big deal. I do of course realise that bowing is a big deal in a plethora of books and movies, but somewhere it's obviously more prominent than elsewhere. I was just wondering if there would be a place for a "bowing in popular culture" section (or some other way to integrate it into the article), or whether it's too trivial? --BiT (talk) 01:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Scraping?[edit]

Interestingly, this article includes a graphic of a man "bowing and scraping." Exactly what is scraping? I cannot find it in Wikipedia or the Wiktionary. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.154.72.251 (talk) 15:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


Left or right?[edit]

The description of "bowing and scraping" talks about the right leg and the left arm, but the picture of the man bowing and scraping shows him using his left leg and his right arm. The pic doesn't seem to be reversed, so I'm thinking the text is wrong.

Use of term Inferior in the bowing in greeting section[edit]

I think the term should be changed to subordinate. I don't feel inferior regarding those to whom I am subordinate because they are higher up in a hiarchy then I. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shepherd1OFH (talkcontribs) 11:34, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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