Talk:Cornelius Jacobsen May

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Untitled[edit]

Why isn't this title a redirect? It says right in the first paragraph of the article that the "Cornelius" spelling is wrong. The man himself never used it. ~~`

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved to Cornelius Jacobsen May per discussion below. - GTBacchus(talk) 20:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)



Cornelis Jacobsz. MayCornelis Jacobszoon Mey — The article itself says his middle name is Jacobzoon, not Jacobz. Also, he seems to have referred to himself as Mey, not May. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 21:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • There are many variations of this person's name. The most common in English language sources appears to be Cornelius Jacobsen May, and I would support a change to that based on WP:ENGLISH, but the proposed name appears to be one of the least common (possibly an early Dutch spelling?). Station1 (talk) 20:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
    • The middle name is a patronymic, which indicates his father's name was Jacob. That is clearest in the "Jacobszoon" form, which quite literally means "Jacob's son". "Jacobsz." is an abbreviated version of that name; such abbreviations were in wide use. "Jacobsen" is, so to say, a worn-down version. "Cornelius" is a Latinized version of the Dutch name "Cornelis". I am not sure where the "Mey"/"May" difference comes from, but names at the time probably were not stable, and he may well have used several spellings of his name.

      We should use the name most commonly used in reliable sources. The name Station1 proposes is at least the one most commonly given in Google Books, so it may be the best choice. Ucucha 11:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

    • Note, by the way, that his brother's article is titled Jan Jacobszoon May van Schellinkhout. Ucucha 11:04, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
  • What's wrong with Cornelius May? --Kotniski (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Move to Cornelius Jacobsen May. See [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] - The first is the clear winner despite the extraneous hits on some others, the last gets nothing at all (your results may differ from mine but should be in the same ballpark). Andrewa (talk) 22:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'm convinced. Support Cornelius Jacobsen May.--Kotniski (talk) 07:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Delaware or Hudson?[edit]

"Samuel Godyn had Godyn's Bay named after him, now renamed New York Bay." Please note, the Samuel Godyn article says this was Delaware Bay.Mannanan51 (talk) 02:40, 28 September 2012 (UTC)Mannanan51

Dutch[edit]

I'm Dutch and I'm surprised. Quote - so named first in 1694 named after him - end quote. Is this English?

The discussion about his name is ridiculous. His full name was Cornelis Jacobszoon May or Mey. He and all Dutch from that time wrote Jacobszoon as Jacobsz. In modern Dutch we either use Jacobsz. or Jacobszn.

Jacobsen sound as a Scandinavian name in Dutch ears. In the discussion above Andrewa used 5 Google searches to "prove" that CorneliUs JacobSEN May gave the most hits. Did anybody look at the actual searches? His correct name was not one of them! I've searched Google Books for several spellings and found by far the most hits on Cornelis Jacobsz. May. Maggy (talk) 09:07, 24 May 2017 (UTC)