Talk:Kulbhushan Jadhav

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UN statement[edit]

@Anachronist: Why you are removing the sentence only because you find one word to be contrary to WP:NPOV? That's really subjective argument and I was expecting you to raise on talk page first. Whether it should be on lead or body, I had already told that you can move it anywhere you would like to. As of now, you have only removed the important content, leading me to ask if you really want the content or not? If you want it then how you would like to reword it. Sdmarathe (talk) 05:32, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't belong in the lead because the body makes absolutely zero mention of it. And it mimics the editorial slant of the source in Wikipedia's voice, which violates WP:NPOV. I explained this clearly in the edit summary. I don't see how the content is relevant, so I would prefer it be removed. If you disagree, then feel free to re-insert it in an appropriate place with neutral language. Even in the body, it still doesn't need a mention in the lead. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:42, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
The criticism from UN is important. You can convince if you have any better reason for outright removal. If it is not going to be included in the lead, then maybe a new subsection can be created for UN. Sdmarathe (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:51, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
  • The UN criticized the justice-system of Pakistan without any (emphasis on)/(mention of) Kulbhusan's case (AFAIS) and the Indian media-units latched onto it to discredit Kulbhusan's hearing and all.Unless reliable third-party-sources have criticized Kulbhushan's hearing and the court-martial, by particularly drawing from the report, mentioning it in the lead is copying POV-reporting by particularly-biased media side(s).WBGconverse 12:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

The U.N had clearly shown concerns over Pakistan government “authorising military courts to try civilians for terrorism related offences”. The U.N has been quoted here. I have provided a total of 4 highly reliable sources one of which is this :- https://m.timesofindia.com/india/un-report-slams-opaque-pak-military-courts-let-civil-courts-try-jadhav-like-cases-says-panel/articleshow/58689592.cms

You Winged Blades of Godric need to read the sources provided before removing anything. Adding The Truth (talk) 13:32, 11 July 2018 (UTC) Adding The Truth (talk) 13:32, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

The UN has shown concern about authorising military courts to try civilians for terrorism related offences and it's a part of many other critical observations.The rest of linkage to Kulbhushan's case is pure OR by Indian Media units, who are obviously biased to a certian extent.Mention iff reliable third-party-sources (not Indian or Pakistani) has criticized Pakistan's handling of the case, based on the report.or else ask for Dispute resolution.WBGconverse 13:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
And, I'll probably provide some ears to your advice(s) about how to read a source, once you manage to come clear of the SPI and your SPA motives.WBGconverse 13:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Also as Anachronist sed, this's not lead-stuff, at any case with zero mentions elsewhere.WBGconverse 14:02, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

The UNITED NATIONS criticized the handling of civilian terror related cases by the Pakistan military courts. Is it not third-party and reliable enough? Just because you don't like Indian media and think it's OR doesn't mean they're wrong and make it such. There are plenty of Pakistan media citations provided throughout the article. How are they reliable then if Indian media isn't according to you?

If you're concerned about it being only in the lead and not the body, you are free to create a subsection for it.

I have told you plenty of times already, don't remove anything before any consensus here on the talk page. Adding The Truth (talk) 15:38, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

@Adding The Truth: Editors seldom gain a lot by dictating other editors what not to do. Especially in a content dispute. Sam Sailor 15:57, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

@Sam Sailor, I'm new here as you can tell by my profile. I was hoping someone jump in to give direction to this pointless discussion. Please make a comment on this issue. Adding The Truth (talk) 16:05, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Confession video[edit]

This section in the article doesn't seem NPOV since all the links belong to Pakistani news agencies which might provide doctored videos and audio clips. The confessions are exaggerated and written in more detail than needed. This need to be shorten up and tone needs to be changed. It looks like Pakistanis have hold on this article. ---zeeyanwiki discutez 19:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Praveen Swami's piece[edit]

I recently came across this interesting piece. Comments are welcome. WBGconverse 15:35, 8 March 2019 (UTC)