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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Contents

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
April 9 1
April 10 1 1
May 10 1 1
May 20 1 1
June 5 1 1
July 7 1
July 21 1 1
July 22 1
July 23 1
July 27 1
August 1 1 1
August 3 1
August 4 1
August 5 2
August 6 1
August 7 2 1
August 8 1
August 9 1
August 11 2
August 12 4 2
August 13 2
August 14 2
August 15 1
August 17 3
August 18 2
August 19 3 2
August 21 3 1
August 22 4 3
August 23 8 6
August 24 7 6
August 25 4 3
August 26 10 5
August 27 6 5
August 28 9 7
August 29 8 8
August 30 7 5
August 31 9 4
September 1 11 6
September 2 9 6
September 3 11 8
September 4 14 7
September 5 12 5
September 6 9 6
September 7 9 1
September 8 6 4
September 9 8 5
September 10 5 3
September 11 7 6
September 12 5 3
September 13 7 3
September 14 12 4
September 15 11 2
September 16 9 1
September 17 7 1
September 18 5 1
September 19 5
September 20 5 1
September 21 1
Total 282 137
Last updated 09:14, 21 September 2018 UTC
Current time is 09:15, 21 September 2018 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on July 7[edit]

Feng Timo

  • ... that Feng Timo is a network hostess who has over 11 million fans on Douyu app and over 7 million fans on Sina Weibo?
  • ... that Feng Timo's song 《佛系少女》 has been so popular that it had been the Top 20 Hottest songs?

Created by Omega68537 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Hostesses, plural.Moriori (talk) 00:45, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This nomination has several issues that need to be addressed if this is to be approved. First, the article is only 1032 characters long, which is far below the 1500 character requirement. Second, the article has several unsourced statements. Finally, both hooks are too vague or common to be hooky or interesting to a broad audience. I will give the nominator time to work on the issues, but if they are not resolved within a reasonable amount of time, this nomination will be failed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:04, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: the page creator has added content, but much of it is in pidgin English. I suggest they apply at WP:GOCE for help with English grammar and spelling. Yoninah (talk) 01:17, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
  • I've requested a copy-edit of the article over at WP:GOCE/R. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg I hope the editor that made this article will stay with Wikipedia and keep improving but I don't think this article can be promoted right now. It's still quite hard to read in English and I don't understand either of the proposed hooks (what's a "network hostess"? what does it mean to have "been the Top 20 Hottest songs"?). I would love to see the article improved and will help if I can, but this is not ready for DYK at this time, six weeks after originally being nominated. › Mortee talk 02:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg @Mortee: The copyedit I requested has been completed, have your concerns been addressed? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:01, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Hmm. Narutolovehinata5 it's certainly a lot smoother now, so I feel a bit bad for having brought out the 'nope' cross. I see it's tagged as reading like a résumé, which I'm not sure is fair. The article's still quite thin, but if someone wants to review this and press ahead with a DYK, I won't stand in the way. › Mortee talk 23:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Noted. I can do a partial review at the very least: new and long enough, the nominator is QPQ-exempt, adequately sourced and Chinese references accepted AGF, no close paraphrasing found, and so on. I'll leave the hook and article prose issues to another reviewer, but I would suggest that the hooks be rephrased (which isn't really that hard to do to be honest). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:26, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg New reviewer here. I copyedited the article to remove the resume tag. Honestly, there's not much here. Does the fact that she sang a few songs make her notable? As I'm unable to read the Chinese sources, I am unable to verify her notability per Wikipedia guidelines. Neither of the two proposed hooks are in the article. Yoninah (talk) 20:44, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: The nominator has not edited in the past 10 days. They have also posted similar articles (see Shuang Sheng) with similar notability and grammatical issues. I'm inclined to take this to AFD if the nominator doesn't respond soon. Yoninah (talk) 14:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Considering it's been over two weeks since the nominator last edited, perhaps it's time to send this to AfD? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 22[edit]

Philippine Constitutional Convention of 1971

  • ... that oppositionist delegates of the Philippine Constitutional Convention of 1971 were among the first to be arrested when Ferdinand Marcos declared Martial Law in the Philippines? "The meticulous planning and flawless execution of martial rule emphasized the brilliance and thoroughness of Marcos. Congress was padlocked and its most eloquent members detained. The constitutional convention was purged of its anti-Marcos members...." - Magno (ed.) Kasaysayan. p. 157

"The delegates to the Constitutional Convention who were deemed anti-marcos like Napoleon Rama, Voltaire Garcia, Teofisto Guingona, Jose Nolado, Bren Guiao, and Jose Concepcion were also detained." Duka (2008) Struggle for Freedom p. 307

  • ALT1: ... that the Philippine Constitutional Convention of 1971 was rocked in May 1972 when a delegate exposed a bribery scheme in First Lady Imelda Marcos was implicated, alongside 13 others? "In May 1972, before all the assembled members of the Convention, Quintero unexpectedly made a public disclosure that the media called a 'bombshell'. He had been receiving, he said, money in envelops, amounting to over P11,000 which almost certainly came from Marcos' wife. He set all the envelops aside, waiting for the right time for him to speak out. 'I want to do the correct thing,' he said." - http://www.bantayog.org/quintero-eduardo-t/

"On that day, delegate Eduardo Quintero of Leyte ... revealed that he and a number of fellow delegates had been receiving money from Marcos.... By his account, Quintero received envelopes containing money that were supposed to have come from the First Lady." - Magno (ed.) Kasaysayan. p. 133

  • ALT2: ... that oppositionist delegates in the Philippine Constitutional Convention of 1971 tried several times to add provisions disallowing Ferdinand or Imelda Marcos from staying in power after 1973? "Even as the law calling fro elections for the convention was being deliberated in Congress, anti-Marcos politicians tried to incorporate a 'Ban the Marcoses' provision.... Thereafter, anti-Marcos delegates to the convention tried to build the 'Ban Marcos' provision into the charter they were drafting." (The next two paragraphs detail the Rama resolution and the Manglapus committee resolution.) - Magno (ed.) Kasaysayan. p. 132
  • Reviewed: Chang and Eng Bunker, Nominated on July 18
  • Comment: DYK Check shows 11707 characters; Created 4 days ago; Made this myself, but also made sure Earwig's Copyvio Detector shows copyvio problems are "unlikely". I even tried to paginate the references I used for the specific facts. This is my first DYK nom, so I shouldn't need to QPQ review, but I reviewed Chang and Eng Bunker anyway. :D

Created by Alternativity (talk). Self-nominated at 07:19, 26 July 2018 (UTC).

Hi. I'll take a look at the unsourced statements as soon as I can - that's probably just a sentence layout oversight on my part, in most cases. I'm not sure how to address redundancies, though. Would you mind pointing me in a more specific direction, redundancies-wise? Thanks again for the review.- Alternativity (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Narutolovehinata5. Well, I've shortened the lede section where I suppose there might have been some redundancy, although I've tried to make sure it still serves as a summary of the rest of the article's outline. I've added a more definitive references for the arrested delegates and the rushing of the approval. I've tried to figure out which facts don't have citations yet, but mostly they're covered by the citation at the end of each paragraph, and I didn't want to overcite unnecessarily. If you have any more specfic suggestions, I think I can quickly make specific changes, but I think I covered it all already... I hope? - Alternativity (talk) 00:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
@Alternativity: Unless the information in the lede isn't repeated in the article body, I'd suggest that you remove the references from the lede as redundant; just keep them in the article text. In addition, I'd suggest that you'd link to either Martial law in the Philippines or to Proclamation No. 1081 during the first mention of "Martial Law". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Will do when I get to work in a few hours. Although I thought a big part of the point of the lede section was to provide a brief outline the contents of the rest of the article, including major themes/issues? Hehe. Maybe I've been writing ledes wrong all this time. - Alternativity (talk) 02:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I meant the lede looks fine to me as it is right now, what I meant to say that the citations in the lede are unnecessary unless the information isn't anywhere else in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:26, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Oh! Okay. Anyway. I did what I could to shorten it, and also linked the first mention of Martial Law to Implementation of Martial law under Ferdinand Marcos, which is the most specific article for the topic in question. I've moved references to outside of the lede section. Personally I'm scared that's going to leave the lede section vulnerable to POV pushing, but maybe I should trust the process a bit more. hehe. Anyway. Cleanup done, as far as I can tell. :D Do tell me if there's anything more I should try. - Alternativity (talk) 05:11, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I suppose this is too late to request for 21 September? :S
Right now September 21 is already on queue. I suppose I can give a quick review now and then post at WT:DYK if this can still go up for tomorrow. If not, an alternative date could be September 23, which is the date Martial Law was actually announced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:27, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

General eligiblity:

  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Despite the title of the article, it seems the article was more about the circumstances surrounding the convention than the convention itself. The convention section only discusses membership but does not go into details on how members were elected, where it took place, and other important details As such, before this is approved, the sections specifically about the convention need to be expanded.

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg @Alternativity: Due to the pressing concern, I'm in doubt that this can make it to tomorrow or even on September 23, unless the requested changes are made immediately. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on July 23[edit]

Spyridon Louis

Spyridon Louis in 1896
Spyridon Louis in 1896
  • ... that after winning the inaugural modern Olympic men's marathon, Spyridon Louis (pictured) turned down all gifts except a horse and a carriage?
    • ALT1:... that the winner of the inaugural modern Olympic men's marathon in 1896, Spyridon Louis was arrested and later acquitted of falsifying military documents?
    • ALT2: ... that Greek Spyridon Louis became a national hero as a result of winning the inaugural modern Olympic men's marathon?

Improved to Good Article status by DatGuy (talk). Self-nominated at 10:45, 25 July 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting life, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. - The image is licensed and a good illustration. I am not sure if the first hook matches the article, and think the second lets us think for moment that he was guilty. How about just saying that he was a national hero by ..., or that a stadion is named for him? - Article suggestions: write a lead that is a summary, amd move the water selling detail to the body ;) - Write a caption in the infobox, like the one here? The refs could be in numerical order. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Added alt two, might need a bit of rewording. What do you mean by "The refs could be in numerical order"? Also, do you believe I should make a new (short) section for his early life? The water selling stuff doesn't seem to fit well anywhere else. Dat GuyTalkContribs 09:46, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
I think they mean instead of having, say ref 20 and ref 3 (like this: [20][3]), have ref 3 and then ref 20. RileyBugz私に叫ぼう私の編集 15:17, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2, with thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've pulled this from prep not only because of the template added by Yoninah about the lead, which does not properly summarize the article and contains significant information about Louis's youth that is not in the body of the article (a violation of MOS:LEAD, which should be followed per the GA criteria), but because of what appears to be some fairly extensive copyvio of the olympics.com source (per Earwig's report), which appears not to have been mentioned as an issue during the GA review. However, I can't be sure about this last, since the material has been in the article here, initially unsourced, since it was created by Jeronimo on June 9, 2004 (Jeronimo hasn't edited on Wikipedia for twelve years), and it is always possible that the article at olympics.com was written later and the writer used some bits from Wikipedia. I am pinging Diannaa‎, who is well versed in copyright issues, to please take a look at the article and determine what needs to be done. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
    • Sorry but I am unable to give a definitive answer as to who copied from who, as the oldest version of the source webpage saved by the Wayback Machine is dated 2016. One solution in cases like this is to presumptively remove or paraphrase the overlapping material just to be sure. Sorry I couldn't be more help. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 27[edit]

Staatstheater am Gärtnerplatz

Gärtnerplatztheater in 2018
Gärtnerplatztheater in 2018

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:06, 3 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg written neutrally, properly expanded, has referencing, QPQ done...ummm...I can't see anything about recent refurbishment in the article...and it'd be better to have dates of restoration than just "recently". How about a hook about some of the performances that have been there? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:17, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: I agree with Casliber that the hook's interest is somewhat questionable, as old buildings being restored is not exactly quirky. How about a hook focusing on how it used to be a Nazi State Theatre (i.e. a hook about this sentence "The reopening of the only state operetta house in Germany on 20 November 1937 presented Die Fledermaus by Johann Strauss, with Adolf Hitler in the audience")? In addition, some sentences (such as "Eine Fahrt ins Blaue, a Lustspieloperette composed by Bernhard Stimmler..." and "The world premiere of Burkhard's Das Feuerwerk...") lack footnotes. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:16, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
It doesn't have to be quirky. I don't want to reduce a long history to Nazi only. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: When you write the hook, please make it "hooky", that is, short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article. Shorter hooks are preferred to longer ones, as long as they don't misstate the article content. Unfortunately, I don't think the hook right now meets this criterion. Not all hooks need to be a concise summary of the whole article, if anything, hooks focusing on only one aspect are sometime encouraged, as long as it's interesting. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:24, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the education. What in "I don't want to reduce it to Nazi alone" did you not understand? In a bio, I won't mention only one negative aspect, even if catchy. (Actually I would mention no negative aspect.) - I will have time for this next week, Debussy's birthday is over, but Bernstein 25 and Vaughan Williams 26 still need work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
If you don't like my Nazi theatre suggestion, Casliber above said that a possible alternate hook could involve some of the works that have been performed there. And what I meant when I quoted that rule was your comment "It doesn't have to be quirky", as the hook as it stands is quite bland (it focuses on the restoration part, which isn't exactly that hooky). In addition, the DYK rules don't prohibit negative hooks, unless BLPs are involved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Repeating: I will have time for this next week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
"recently restored for several years" is not idiomatic - change to "recently restored over several years" or rephrase eg as "in restoration for several years", Johnbod (talk) 13:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
It has been a week when two more people tried whom I tried to get to recent death, on top of normal work. - The answer is yes, but today is another day with little time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Here is another suggestion:

ALT1: ... that the Staatstheater am Gärtnerplatz (pictured) in Munich, a royal theatre in the 19th century, became the only state operetta theatre in Germany when the Nazi regime cited operettas as particularly suited to connecting people with the theatre arts? Jmar67 (talk) 16:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't want to give so much prominence to Nazi ideology. Will look now - finally - at article and hook, sorry for the delay. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Some refs and external links added. Combining performances, we could say:
ALT2: * ... that the Staatstheater am Gärtnerplatz (pictured), built in Munich as a royal theatre for operettas, played Die lustige Witwe as a Nazi State Theatre, and for the reopening after five years of restoration in 2017?
Casliber, do you remember this was open? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg You need to add its staging in Nazi era to the article. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:06, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I knew but forgot. Done now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm sorry, but I don't really find the new hook interesting either. The hook being proposed right now goes along the likes of "a theater played opera X in the past and performed it again recently", which isn't really hooky to a broad audience (as it stands, the hook really only appeals to opera fans, but not necessarily general readers). A new hook needs to be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
No hook is promoted right now. ALT2 was suggested. The house has a history of 150 years, and I think it should show a bit, hooky or not. Casliber is the reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Yeah I'm sorry about that word, it was a typo that's now been fixed. As for the showing part, that's good to know, but that's what the article is for, a hook should instead emphasize something interesting, fascinating, or quirky about a subject. Yes the building may be 150 years old, but many opera houses are even older than that, so it's not really unusual in the grand scale of things. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:19, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Can you please strike, rather than making my comment look silly ;) - Casliber is the reviewer. (How I love it, after more than 1000 DYK, to be told what a hook should do.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
DYKs can have more than one reviewer, though, particularly if consensus cannot initially be reached with one. With that said, I'm also interested in what Casliber thinks of ALT2. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I thought it was interesting enough that it was performed in the nazi era and then now. Not earth-shattering but hooky enough to pique interest....happy to get more opinions without prejudice...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 4[edit]

Jose Yao Campos

  • ... that businessman Jose Yao Campos admitted in 1986 to having organized 40 different shell companies through which Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos could hide his wealth? https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1986/03/30/the-philippines-anatomy-of-a-looting/620251dc-cffe-46f3-be40-a248f501882c/?utm_term=.d70cfe4777d5 Rusakoff 1986: “Campos, who made a fortune in the Philippine pharmaceutical industry with the help of decrees by Marcos, recently confided in a statement to the new Manila government that he organized 40 shell companies to hide Marcos' wealth.”
    • ALT1:... that Jose Yao Campos made a 1986 deal with the Philippines’ Presidential Commission on Good Government to return PhP 2.5 Billion in real estate which he held on behalf of Ferdinand Marcos? https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/123667-marcos-cronies-compromise Lustre 2016: A friend of the dictator, Campos surrendered to the PCGG the 197 titles representing pieces of real estate property in Metro Manila, Rizal, Laguna, Cavite, Bataan and Baguio City, and P250 million ($5.3 million) in cash. The pieces of real estate property have a combined value of over P2.5 billion ($52.5 million).
    • ALT2:... that in 1986, businessman Jose Yao Campos was the first of the Cronies of Ferdinand Marcos to return what he said were Marcos-owned assets to the Philippines, in return for immunity? https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/123667-marcos-cronies-compromise Lustre 2016: “Months after its creation in 1986, the Presidential Commission Good Government (PCGG) saw tangible results of its quest for the return of the illegal assets of the Marcoses and cronies. It negotiated the first compromise deal with crony Jose Yao Campos, a Chinese Filipino entrepreneur who owned the controlling interest of United Laboratories Inc., a major drug firm, for the return of the Marcos assets listed under his name. Campos, low key and unassuming, was probably the most cooperative among the known Marcos cronies. Unlike other cronies who chose to slug it out with the post-Marcos government, Campos cooperated fully in surrendering the Marcos assets under his name. Marcos used him mainly as caretaker of those illegal assets.”
  • Reviewed: This is only my third nomination for DYK. So I'm still excempted, although I've reviewed 2 DYKs already (Chang and Eng Bunker and Aya Hirano)
  • Comment: This would be ideal for publication on September 11, the date of birth of former Philippine Dictator Ferdiand Marcos (b, 1917).

Created by Alternativity (talk). Self-nominated at 06:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Full review to follow, but right now the article is in need of reorganization. The lede is very long, almost as long if not longer than the actual article text. It needs to be changed to a summary, while the other parts could be moved to the body. Some minor copyedits should also be made (like using emdashes instead of dashes). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll try to start addressing issues as soon as possible. - Alternativity (talk) 02:22, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 5[edit]

Mein Gott, wie schön ist deine Welt

Cover of Kirchenlied
Cover of Kirchenlied

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:44, 12 August 2018 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article is a good one, as Gerda's always are. Clean, well-written, sourced and admirable. I wouldn't expect the image to be chosen for the DYK lead. My only question is on the interesting-ness of the hook. Gerda Arendt, I respect you hugely, but I'm not sure there's a really "hooky" line to be pulled out of this. There doesn't seem to be much unusual about the hymn. Might this be a case where it's better to let the article attract its own admirers, without DYK involved? Of course if others see this as more intriguing than I do, or if there's a more arresting hook option, I'll gladly retract my quibble. › Mortee talk 00:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

It's not hooky but to write that song in Nazi Germany is unusual. Also, why not interest general readers in something they'd not normally read? Finally: I believe that we can't repeat the line often enough how beautiful our world is. I wrote the article after singing it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
If the unusual-ness comes partly from it being written under Nazism, could the hook be altered to point that out more clearly? The dates are mentioned but I didn't make the connection myself. Perhaps other readers won't either. › Mortee talk 10:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
My point: the people who care about such things will make the connection. - I know that mentioning Nazi in a hook gives you 1000 extra clicks, but somehow don't want to do them the honour. Suggestions? Perhaps read Kirchenlied? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
That's a very fair thought, but I think the hooks do need something extra before they'll be broadly appealing. I'll try to think of an alternative. (And if another reviewer would like to comment on the interestingness of ALT0 and ALT1, please do). Thanks for pointing out Kirchenlied. I see it was featured at DYK already, mentioning the Nazis, so that's another good reason not to mention them here. It would be very close to a rerun. › Mortee talk 12:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
  • I've continued thinking and the best came up with is below. It's extra hard because the title and translation necessarily use so many characters. (I was trying to write one about thankfulness for the Creation, but couldn't get it to fit). I hope this is an improvement and welcome all feedback.
ALT2: ... that the 1936 German hymn Mein Gott, wie schön ist deine Welt (My God, how beautiful is your world) takes its title fromis reminiscent of a line inan entry in poet Joseph von Eichendorff's diary?
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg new reviewer needed to decide if this or the original hooks are broadly interesting. › Mortee talk 19:36, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Do you think more readers know Eichendorff than Kirchenlied. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
No, but I think basing a hymn on a diary entry is more interesting than the name of the book the hymn was published in. › Mortee talk 22:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Only that it's not just a name but a program, while I'm not sure that the similarity between incipit and diary note is more than incidental. Both exist, and are similar. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Ah... if it's just a similarity, and it's not known that the hymn is based on the entry, then my ALT2 is no good at all. I got that from the article, which says "The beginning of the song uses an entry of ...". If it might be coincidental, perhaps I should strike ALT2 and the article could be clearer on that point? › Mortee talk 22:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Not after midnight ;) - I didn't even remember the word "coincidental", struggling with subleties of the English language. Could we say "is reminiscent of the diary entry ..."? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Haha, fair enough. "Reminiscent" sounds like it would be accurate. It'd be nice to have something more direct to say. I won't stop thinking, but I think another opinion would help here. › Mortee talk 22:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
I meant for the article, - off to bed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Absolutely, I understood. Goodnight Gerda! › Mortee talk 22:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

New day. Ideas: we could link the years to something for background. It's kind of a protest song. Even without a background, exclaiming that line again and again is unusual. - This conversation is already longer than the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

History of the Jews in Alaska

  • ... that ...in 1906 and during the early 1940s, Alaska was strongly considered as a potential Jewish settlement for jewish people escaping persecution in Europe/Russia? Source: Anchorage Daily News (in article)], Jewish Social Studies. Indiana University Press (in article)]
  • ... that in 1906 and during the early 1940s, Alaska was considered as a potential refuge for Jews escaping pogroms and the Holocaust? Source: Anchorage Daily News (in article)], Jewish Social Studies. Indiana University Press (in article)] Source: Anchorage Daily News (in article)], Jewish Social Studies. Indiana University Press (in article)]

Created/expanded by Zchai72 (talk). Nominated by JC7V7DC5768 (talk) at 22:38, 8 August 2018 (UTC). ALT1:


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Typos, article not linked
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Catrìona (talk) 16:17, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the suggestion. I've added the ALT1, and I will soon fix the other issues. JC7V-constructive zone 18:22, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

And I now fixed the rest, thanks for the help. JC7V-constructive zone 18:26, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

I added what you suggested as an 'alt 1', I would like to use that as the hook. JC7V-constructive zone 20:16, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment the article is DYK appropriate but needs copyediting for Flow. Szzuk (talk) 09:20, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@Szzuk: Hi Szzuk, thank you for commenting. Do you mean the article itself needs copyediting for flow or that this DYK statement itself needs copyediting for flow? If it's this DYK itself that needs those improvements, I just insterted Catriona's suggested wording of the DYK (after I first read your comment). He/she suggested it to me as a ALT 1 but it seems better than any wording that I can come up with. JC7V-constructive zone 20:27, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

I meant the article could do with a copyedit for flow, it is really just about how one sentence leads to the next, the content itself is fine. I would have a go at doing this myself but it is one of my own weak areas, does someone else here know how to request this copyedit? Szzuk (talk) 21:06, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@Szzuk: Hi, I tried to fix up some parts of the article myself. If you can point me to specific paragraphs and the sort which need to be fixed in the article, I can further fix them or I can get my mentor AE (who is part of WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors) to fix them too. Thank you. JC7V-constructive zone 22:08, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 7[edit]

Women in Iceland

Created/expanded by Yellow.Umbrella (talk), Ipigott (talk), and Frayae (talk). Nominated by Frayae (talk) at 22:58, 7 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Hello, Frayae. Thanks for the nomination; the article is very interesting. It needs some attention for MOS:WTW; while I don't think it's non-neutral for Wikipedia's voice to imply that gender equality is good, as this reflects the balance of sources, we probably shouldn't say that a politician's lectures are amusing, even if a source does. The article uses very extensive quotes, and some fairly close paraphrases, and the English is clear but sometimes slightly non-colloquial. I've been copy-editing it and will do some more. There are a few confusing points.
Some information that is not there and would really improve it (see other "Women in... articles and redirects). It would be entirely acceptable to quote Icelandic-language sources, ideally with the quote added to the citation to make it easier to check.
While it misleadingly fails the automated DYK check, it was moved out of draftspace on the seventh, and so qualifies.
I think the fascinating part of this article is the equal-pay action, which also deserves its own article. I'd suggest a hook that brings it in, such as
  • ALT1:... that women in Iceland walk off the job en masse after a calculated proportion of the workday?
  • ALT2:... that the first woman voted in as head of state says she wouldn't have got her job if women in Iceland hadn't walked away from theirs?
....just as initial ideas. HLHJ (talk) 23:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Hello, Frayae. It looks as if we do have an article on the 1975 Icelandic women's strike. I've linked to it, and we might want to merge some of the content. The ALT2 hook would still work, but ALT1 seems more suited to the main article. It would be good to expand some other content, too. We might, for instance, include content on the history of women's sufferage, women's property, marriage law, parental leave (is there a father's quota?), proportion of housework done by men and women, alignment of school and working hours, childcare provisions, what professions have severe gender imbalances and how these have changed over time, affirmative action programs... Pre-20th-century history would also be good. HLHJ (talk) 04:36, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi HLHJ. These are all definitely things that should be done, I like both hook ideas you came up with as well. Although the article needs significant expansion, the DYK process is very time limited so I went straight for it. I hope you don't mind too much. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:16, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Frayae, great infobox! The clock is on the nomination, and it's safely nominated; I don't mind at all, and I don't mind re-reading it. HLHJ (talk) 23:37, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 8[edit]

Working Definition of Antisemitism

  • ... that the inter-governmental Working Definition of Antisemitism has generated controversy over its inclusion of examples of criticism of Israel? Source: Kenneth L. Marcus (17 July 2015). The Definition of Anti-Semitism. Oxford University Press. pp. 21–22. ISBN 978-0-19-937565-3. At the same time, the Working Definition has had its share of critics, as should be expected of any serious intergovernmental effort to address this difficult subject. In 2011, the United Kingdom's University and College Union (UCU), a trade union of English university professors, considered a motion to disassociate itself from the EUMC definition... based on a belief that it "confuses criticism of Israeli government policy and actions with genuine anti-Semitism"... This triggered a lively controversy that engulfed not only the English academic and Jewish communities, but also Jewish, human rights, and higher education groups throughout Europe and Worldwide. In the United States, the meaning and application of the Working Definition have been contested even among those who support it. In 2011, Kenneth Stern, who was then the top anti-Semitism expert at the American Jewish Committee, drew intense criticism when he... argued that the Working Definition was being invoked by complainants in federal civil rights cases before the United States Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights (OCR) to censor speech that is critical of Israel. 

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 11:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Created 8 August from redirect. Other creator not mentioned in the nom: Jonney2000. If/when this is promoted, I recommend page protection as this is a controversial topic. I cannot find NPOV in the article, though. Catrìona (talk) 16:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Catrìona: thanks for your review. I have now added the inline citations for the direct quotations. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment - the hook is not neutral. The IHRA's definition is generally accepted by most in the field. What has generated controversy is UK's Labour fiddling with the examples provided by the IHRA for antisemitism. The controversy is Labour - as might be seen in Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party‎. Some of Labour's supporters have been critics of some points in IHRA - but that has been following the controversy. The citation used to support the hook is used out of context - it refers to a controversy involving the UCU, long accused of antisemitism, which attempted to change the definition of antisemitism (in relation the IHRA definition). The controversies here, if at all, are around groups accused of antisemitism who attempt to change the definitions used.Icewhiz (talk) 20:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
The citation refers to the 2011 UCU controversy in the UK and the 2011 AAUP-AJC controversy in the US.[3] You have kindly mentioned the 2018 Labour Party controversy in the UK. I could also add the 2016-18 controversy in congress regarding the proposed Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.[4] That’s already four separate controversies in two countries. The article contains further examples, and more could be added as necessary. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:22, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Here are two further sources: Professor David Feldman, Sub-Report for the Parliamentary Committee Against Antisemitism, 1 January 2015, page 4: "However, the definition itself rapidly became a topic of controversy rather than consensus. The points at issue included what the status of a 'working definition' actually was, whether the working definition was an effective and coherent definition at all, and, finally, controversy dogged the application of the working definition to debate on the State of Israel and its policies. The criticisms have been damaging and the EUMC working definition largely has fallen out of favour."; and The Times of Israel, [5] "Koren’s statement came as confirmation to reports, including by the president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Jonathan Arkush, that Russia was the only country blocking the adoption of the definition, which is controversial because it lists some forms of hate speech on Israel as an example of anti-Semitism."
Onceinawhile (talk) 07:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Looking at the article again, I notice that it has a "Criticism" section but not a section for its supporters. For such a controversial topic, we should avoid even the appearance of partiality. I don't have enough knowledge of the subject to determine if the hook and/or the article are impartial, so I'm requesting a second opinion on NPOV. Catrìona (talk) 11:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
@Catrìona: FYI at Talk:Antisemitism#RFC: Should Wikipedia adopt the Working Definition of Antisemitism?, the user above (Icewhiz) made the same argument re his view that there is no controversy, which was his rationale here for asserting that the hook is not neutral. That RFC is benefitting from wide participaion, so once it has finished it should be possible to assess consensus not just on the RFC question but also on how many other editors share Icewhiz's view that there is no controversy. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
That RfC is a borderline NOTAFORUM violation that didn't suggest an particular content to the article in question.Icewhiz (talk) 07:27, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 9[edit]

Walter Renneisen

  • ... that the actor Walter Renneisen showed Patrick Süskind's one-person-play Der Kontrabaß (The Double Bass) in his own touring production? Source: several

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 23:26, 15 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg, timescale ☑Y; length ☑Y; style ☑Y But the article needs copy edit, some grammar issues is seen. Also this sentence "As a speaker, he has appeared in more than 800 radio plays" can be selected as an extra hook. This is just a suggestion!Saff V. (talk) 13:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 11[edit]

Harry Kupfer

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC).

  • What's interesting about this? Do stage directors at the KOB not normally stage at Bayreuth? It sounds like something routine. Daniel Case (talk) 03:11, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Today, yes. Then, it was The exception, someone from East Berlin in Bayreuth. I had the pleasure to see it because a friend who received the ticket after years of waiting didn't want to see that production, because of the stage director. Can't put all that in 200 chars, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg @Gerda Arendt: I'm afraid that I share Daniel's concern about the hook interest. The hook subject (a stage director staging something) is not really of interest to a broad audience, and I'm not sure this even appeals to classical music fans. A new hook needs to be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:26, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Wait until Monday at least, will be away. Bayreuth Festival is like the Olympic Games in opera, - no idea how to communicate that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Any answer to the Olympic Games of opera? I'd argue that whoever doesn't know that will not care about him, and the others don't need explanation. I looked at the achievements of a long life, and believe this is the most outstanding which made him known in the Western world. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Right now, as it stands, Daniel is not happy with the current hook, and it might be for the best that a new hook be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Daniel, could you please look again? (Because I'd have a hard time suggesting something I'd think is second-rate.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
OK, giving this a brief look before a too-late bedtime ... you mentioned something I hadn't known, that the KOB was in the East. That makes the hook interesting. Can we get it in there? Can we say he was the first or only East German opera director to direct at Bayreuth? Would that work and be supported by sources? Daniel Case (talk) 06:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
I'll see, but it may take a few days, RL. We just mentioned Barrie Kosky again, the first Jewish director, well supported, but news from the 1970s are harder to find. I saw the production because my friend wo had waited for years for tickets would not see his staging, nor Chéreau's who had opened the door for things like that to happen ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Daniel, I looked and found this review which says nothing about any "first" but goes in great detail to his way of interpreting Wagner's work in a psychological approach as Senta's visions and obsessions, which was not wanted by the Wagner traditionalists (and would not have pleased the composer). Trying, but not familiar with the terms, - German Psycho-Drama seems to be something completely different from psychodrama, - is there an English term for what is meant here?

ALT1: ... that when Harry Kupfer, for decades a stage director at the Komische Oper Berlin, was invited to stage Der fliegende Holländer at the Bayreuth Festival in 1978, he presented the work from Senta's psychological situation? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

For ALT1, I'm not so sure. It seems to be too overwhelming with information. Like the average reader might ask: "who is Stena?" "what do you mean by Senta's psychological situation?", and others to that effect. This hook might possibly work provided the hook is rewritten to state who Senta is, and what the psychological sitatuion was. Also, from what I can tell, the subject of this hook would be about presenting The Flying Dutchman, and I don't really see how the part about the Komische Oper Berlin fits with the rest of the hook, so that might have to go. Perhaps something like "... that when Harry Kupfer was invited to stage Der fliegende Holländer at the Bayreuth Festival in 1978, he presented the work from Senta's psychological situation?" Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:09, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
I didn't want to say "the heroine Senta" because she is nor heroic in his staging. The KOB is much more important to mention than the girl.
ALT2: ... that when Harry Kupfer, for decades a stage director at the Komische Oper Berlin, was invited to to direct Der fliegende Holländer at the Bayreuth Festival in 1978, he presented it as a psychological drama? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Like I mentioned, I'm not sure if the Berlin Opera is really important in the context of the hook since the point is that he wanted to present the opera as a psychological drama. The hook could simply say something like "that when Harry Kupfer was invited to direct...". But I digress and I will leave the final decision to Daniel Case. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and Gerda Arendt: As much as I understand how Gerda wanted to preserve that in the hook, it makes it too long at 206 characters with spaces. But the rest of it checks out, at least to the extent I can read and understand the Die Zeit article. Daniel Case (talk) 15:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
We can skip polite "invited".
ALT3: ... that Harry Kupfer, stage director at the Komische Oper Berlin for decades, presented Wagner's Der fliegende Holländer at the 1978 Bayreuth Festival as a psychological drama? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Cruz Pérez Cuéllar

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Duarte has not been tried in court, and therefore the hook is a BLP violation. Yoninah (talk) 12:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Alright, good to know. Would this still be the case even if this piece of evidence came up during the trial of one of Duarte's associates? (Source) In any event, I'll suggest an ALT1: Raymie (tc) 15:38, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Cruz Pérez Cuéllar promoted participatory budgeting and a statewide network of child-care centers when he ran for Governor of Chihuahua in 2016?
@Raymie: unless Duarte is convicted in court, I don't think we can mention his alleged crimes. Thank you for the hook, but the hooky part of that sentence in the article is:
  • @Yoninah: I'd be fine with that, even if it's starting to become a more common policy plank in some places. Raymie (tc) 07:57, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Full review needed. Yoninah (talk) 10:40, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 12[edit]

Mein ganzes Herz erhebet dich

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Style ☑Y, length ☑Y, timescale ☑Y.
  • Hook:
  • I can verify from ref 1 that the hymn may be used to open a Roman Catholic service, but I can't find any source for its derivation from a "French paraphrase" of Psalm 138 in the Genevan Psalter. Can you point me in the right direction?
  • The word "also" in the hook seems redundant
  • Referencing.
  • I've beefed up the referencing a bit and am happy it generally supports the article.
  • Do we mean the 1551 (not 1543) edition of the Genevan Psalter? That appears to be the version at reference 1. Bermicourt (talk) 19:29, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Bermicourt, Gerda Arendt, where does this nomination stand? The last edits were over a week ago, shortly after the above was posted. Have the issues been addressed, and what else might be needed? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Looking again, I can't find an exact date for this Psalm paraphrase to enter the Genevan psalter. 1551 is the melody. Commented out the year. This has also no specific dates, just that by 1562, all 150 psalms were complete in the Genevan Psalter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
"also" seems not redundant, looking at the origin in the Huegenots, who were prosecuted by the Catholic Church. Perhaps "now also"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
I know this may sound picky but, to me, the "also" appears redundant because the sentence doesn't mention what it also serves as. I wonder if auch in German can imply something else which is unsaid, whereas in English it implies something we have mentioned earlier. The nearest we have in English is the wordy "amongst other things" or the obscure inter alia. Why not change "serves also for" to "may be used as", which gets round the problem? Bermicourt (talk) 17:00, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
It doesn't say that it is in the official German Catholic hymnal, - about anything "may be used" in services these days ;) - Trying harder:
ALT1: * ... that the hymn "Mein ganzes Herz erhebet dich", a paraphrase of Psalm 138 based on the Huguenot Psalter, is part of the 2013 Catholic German hymnal? - One of these days I need to improve the hymnal article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ALT2: "... that the hymn "Mein ganzes Herz erhebet dich", a paraphrase of Psalm 138 based on the Protestant Genevan Psalter, is also sung by Catholics in Germany?

Jmar67 (talk) 20:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Do you mean "in Catholic masses" (because any Catholic can sing it anywhere anyway), and do you want to say "in Germany, Austria and Switzerland"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Did not know that GL also used in AT and CH. "in Catholic masses" or maybe "by German-speaking Catholics". I just wanted to get away from the hymnal discussion, which is not germane (!) to the hook. The point is that it is also a Catholic hymn. Trying to help. Jmar67 (talk) 20:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

George FitzGeorge Hamilton

George FitzGeorge Hamilton
George FitzGeorge Hamilton

Moved to mainspace by West Virginian (talk). Self-nominated at 15:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Nice work! Everything checks out. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 16:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg@Editorofthewiki: you should provide a review that explicitly confirms that the five main DYK criteria have been met. An optional Reviewer's Template is located above the edit window. IMO the hook is not hooky enough. Yoninah (talk) 19:47, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, how about ALT1? I crafted this hook from my mobile phone, so I will add the necessary sources here when I have access to my laptop. ALT1 is a bit long at 199 characters, but it draws in significant facts from the article prose. Please let me know if you have any recommendations for how to improve upon this! Thanks again for taking the time to improve this hook. — West Virginian (talk) 12:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the alt hook, West Virginian. I think you should zero in on the hooky part rather than synopsizing the article:
  • ALT2: ... that according to family lore, George FitzGeorge Hamilton (pictured), a godson of George V, was killed in a World War I bombing raid while retrieving his leave pass? Yoninah (talk) 14:21, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, this works perfectly! Thank you for your suggested ALT hook! I made one minor adjustment, and that was to change great-grandson to godson. FitzGeorge Hamilton was the great-grandson of Prince George, Duke of Cambridge. I prefer George V for the hook since he has a more succinct title! Thank you again for improving this hook! — West Virginian (talk) 14:56, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review is still needed covering the DYK criteria, and also of ALT2. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Note: Cwmhiraeth, I have reverted your promotion of this to prep because the ALT2 hook was never reviewed, and indeed a full review was never done, as noted by Yoninah above. Please only promote nominations where a tick is the most recent icon showing. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 13[edit]

Matt Mobley

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self-nominated at 15:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Who is this Rene Castro? Not sure that earned Second-team All-Northeast Conference honors. is supported by the source. He finished fourth in the conference in scoring with 18.5 points per game while leading all of Division 1 in minutes per game with 38.3. may be too close to the source text. Not sure that source #6 supports Prior to the 2018 NBA draft, Mobley worked out with NBA teams Brooklyn Nets, Charlotte Hornets, Los Angeles Lakers, Utah Jazz, Sacramento Kings and Philadelphia 76ers. What's the source for his size and weight? Hook reasomably sourced, not particularly interesting though unless you know about American sports. No copyvio or plagiarism although some close paraphrasing concerns. OK QPQ. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:48, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Just a suggestion that the sport should be named in the hook and Three-point field goal should be linked. Otherwise it is pretty meaningless to those that don't know basketball - Dumelow (talk) 16:12, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Rene Castro was one of his teammates in high school, it's not that important. The second team honors is supported in the source, check again. Added "basketball" to the hook. Let me know of close paraphrasing and I will fix it. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 18:13, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
It's only the sentence I quoted which has close paraphrasing problems, seems like. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:35, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: Are there any more issues or can this be promoted. I rephrased the sentence. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 00:51, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
I think that reordering the "worked out with" sentence is necessary. As it is it is a close paraphrase. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:17, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Done. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 12:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 14[edit]

Langer's Deli

Exterior of Langer's Deli
Exterior of Langer's Deli
  • ... that Nora Ephron once claimed that the pastrami sandwich at Langer's Deli in Los Angeles was the best in the world? Source: "The hot pastrami sandwich served at Langer's Delicatessen in downtown Los Angeles is the finest hot pastrami sandwich in the world", The New Yorker
  • Reviewed: Doing...

Created by Sky Harbor (talk). Self-nominated at 18:56, 21 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg size and age ok, written neutrally, hook cited and faithful to source, free of copyvio, awaiting QPQ and we're good to go. First hook is bestCas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

David Green (civil engineer)

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 16:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC).

  • New, long enough, both hooks not long and sourced. original is definitely more interesting. QPQ done.
Symbol question.svg I added one tag and also not sure if the redlink individual needs to be there.
The references (which are complete) seem to all link to industry sources/journals and are not braoder so i'm not 100% sure if that's DYKable.Lihaas (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi Lihaas, thanks for your review. I have expanded the sentence you tagged with "which" to name the company. With regards the redlink Roger Norman Sainsbury is a former ICE president and is notable, he is on my list of articles to create. In terms of the referencing I am not sure there are any other sources I can bring in. The guy spent his career in civil engineering so naturally most of what is written about him comes from the industry journals. Let me know if there is anything else you need doing - Dumelow (talk) 19:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
I found a couple more sources and was able to expand the article a bit more - Dumelow (talk) 19:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 15[edit]

Plachimada Coca-Cola Struggle

  • Reviewed: Ronald Smelser
  • Comment: Alternate suggestions more than welcome!

Created by Siglak (talk). Nominated by Catrìona (talk) at 14:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg There are some typos in the article, there are so, "about ($28 million)" doesn't need the word about, and one of the article statements is tagged with a "clarification needed" template. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • @Catrìona: I note that the article creator hasn't edited since August 15, are you willing to adopt this nomination and make the requested changes? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:01, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5: I believe I've fixed the issues mentioned in the review. Thanks for the review. Catrìona (talk) 03:20, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
  • @Catrìona: I'm almost ready to give this a full review. However, the part about the incident being discussed in a BBC Radio show is not cited in the article. A quick Google search does confirm the article fact, but the article fact has no inline reference. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:12, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I'm not sure what you mean. The entire paragraph is cited to the Bijoy paper. I just double checked and it does contain the information about the BBC Radio show. Catrìona (talk) 04:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
I see. I'm using a connection right now that does not have access to the full JSTOR text so I wasn't able to check. I'll check the text again later. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 17[edit]

Josette Frank

Created by Etzedek24 (talk) and Argento Surfer (talk). Nominated by Argento Surfer (talk) at 14:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Interesting life, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I struck the original because yes it's unusual, but not specific for her. I think children's literature has to be there. - Suggestions for the article: shorter headers, and say "They had two children". Why no image here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Due apologies, but I am not satisfied with the hook, and have pulled this from the prep area. I do not see how the text in the article supports the hook as written. Vanamonde (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
I assume the issue is with the second half of the hook? The article clearly references the 1954 Senate hearings investigating a link between comic books and juvenile delinquency, but I have added a broader claim about public opinion with two additional sources. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:46, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Quantic Dream

Improved to Good Article status by Cognissonance (talk). Self-nominated at 21:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Good to go Symbol confirmed.svg
Article promoted to GA on 17th, nominated on 17th
Well over the size minimum
Passes Earwig's Copyvio Detector (8.3% hit is a cited direct quote)
Hook is short and sourced "To tell the truth, without tax breaks I’m pretty certain we’d be in Canada right now."
QPQ provided
The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:48, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg an issue was raised with the hook at WP:ERRORS2 (permalink). It looks like the wording of the hook, which implies the company would up and leave immediately if the tax breaks were removed, does not match the tongue in cheek nature of the conversation from the source. Cage also says in the same interview that "If there were no tax breaks… well the project would probably still go ahead, but a lot less money would be spent on it", which suggests maybe he wouldn't take the Canadian route. Needs some rewording or perhaps an alt hook I think.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:46, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@Amakuru: There was no tongue-in-cheek. "the project" that would "probably" still go ahead is Heavy Rain. Only after this does he talk about the company as a whole: "To tell the truth, without tax breaks I’m pretty certain we’d be in Canada right now". "now" is referring to 2011, a year after Heavy Rain was published. The interviewer asks "Seriously?" Cage answers "Seriously." Also hard to believe he's being unserious when he goes on to describe the benefits of Canadian tax breaks. I want this hook repromoted. Cognissonance (talk) 00:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
No, it can't be stated as a fact. It might not move. Other things may happen. The best you could hope for would be to say that they said they'd move, not that they would. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:13, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
@The Rambling Man: You're moving the goalpost. You were wrong and are now looking for more reasons to disregard my hook. There is nothing wrong with the word "would". It represents a desire to do something. Cage stated his desire to move the company in factual terms. Cognissonance (talk) 10:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
No, I'm not. Would does not represent a desire to do something. It means it "would" happen. And that's not guaranteed at all. I'm done here, good luck. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the way the hook is phrased, it sounds like we're saying in Wikipedia's voice that the move to Canada would follow the removal of tax breaks, as surely as night follows day. That is emphatically not what the source says. Cage is simply making a point about the relative advantage that he sees his Canadian competitor enjoying, and how he would seriously consider upping sticks if the French tax breaks disappeared. That's as far as it goes, but we don't know if he would really move under those circumstances. All manner of eventualities and compromises might emerge. So to suggest anything more than that is WP:CRYSTALBALL. I suggest rewording the hook to make it clear that this is something that Cage has said, rather than it being an objective fact.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
"I would do that" is not the same as saying "I will do that". The first is a statement of possibility, the second is one of certainty. "...according to the founder of the French video game developer Quantic Dream, the company..." defeats the purpose of having a hook. Ruins the flow. Cognissonance (talk) 20:39, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Georg Cantor's first set theory article

Georg Cantor, c. 1870.
Georg Cantor, c. 1870.
  • ... that some mathematicians have disagreed about whether Georg Cantor's proof of the existence of transcendental numbers is constructive or merely existential?

Proof is constructive: Dasgupta 2014, p. 107; Sheppard 2014, pp. 131–132. Proof is non-constructive: Jarvis 2014, p. 18; Chowdhary 2015, p. 19; Stewart 2015, p. 285; Stewart & Tall 2015, p. 333.

Created/expanded by RJGray (talk) and Michael Hardy (talk). Nominated by Michael Hardy (talk) at 04:21, 19 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Not a review, but you should link and boldface the article in the hook. Catrìona (talk) 05:03, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Recently promoted GA article, so clearly meets the article criteria. Original hook is rather technical; I provided a substitute. The QPQ check didn't turn up a review by the nominator - please provide a link to a review. RockMagnetist(talk) 15:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
@RockMagnetist: I did this review. Michael Hardy (talk) 22:10, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg On further investigation, it appears that the nominator, despite over 200,000 edits, has never nominated a DYK article before. Welcome to DYK, Michael Hardy! RockMagnetist(talk) 19:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I formatted the hook to add "(pictured)". However, there is number confusion between "a transcendental number" and "they" — should the end of the hook be "or merely proves it exists"? Yoninah (talk) 21:36, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm not the submitter of this DYK, but in my opinion the meaning would be conveyed by changing the last two words of the hook. You could change "..they exist" to "..such numbers exist". EdJohnston (talk) 21:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
@EdJohnston: thanks, I like that. Waiting for the nominator to weigh in... Yoninah (talk) 21:53, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: @EdJohnston: The singular in "how to construct a transcendental number" is appropriate since in this context one would construct them one at a time, and the plural is appropriate in "they exist" since the proof shows that many transcendental numbers exist, not just one. Whether it says "they exist" or "such numbers exist" doesn't seem immensely important to me, since the meaning of "they" seems clear from the context. I suppose erring on the side of caution one should be explicit and say "such numbers exist." Michael Hardy (talk) 23:14, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Restoring tick per RockMagnetist's review. Wait a minute — the review didn't confirm that the five main DYK criteria have been met. Here is a full review: GA approved. New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen in online sources. Hook ref verified and cited inline. Images in article and hook are freely licensed. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits.
  • Tweaked hook wording:
  • ALT1a: ... that mathematicians do not agree on whether a proof in Georg Cantor's (pictured) first set theory article actually shows how to construct a transcendental number, or merely proves that such numbers exist?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1a good to go. Yoninah (talk) 00:05, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Pulling from prep, with due apologies. @RJGray, Michael Hardy, Yoninah, and Cwmhiraeth: The hook might be okay, but the article is not sufficiently referenced. Indeed, I'm a little confused about how it passed the GA review, because though it's well written and I have no reasons to doubt its accuracy, the second half of "The development of Cantor's ideas" is completely unreferenced. Moreover, this raises neutrality issues, because the article seems to take the view that the proof is a constructive proof ("Some mathematicians have attempted to correct this misunderstanding of Cantor's work.") but this statement depends on the previous section, which, as I said, is not adequately referenced. Vanamonde (talk) 02:36, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This was stuck in limbo as it was not re-listed. Needs a new reviewer to address concern(s) raised. Alex Shih (talk) 17:25, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
    @Alex Shih: Apologies for not relisting it, but really this doesn't need a reviewer, it needs work from the creator/nominator. If the sourcing issues were fixed I'd put this back into prep myself. Vanamonde (talk) 18:45, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Alex Shih: By the "creator" do you mean those who created the page, as opposed to the DYK hook? By "nominator", do you mean the person who nominated it for DYK? (That's me.) By "creator/nominator", do you mean the creator _or_ the nominator? Or do you mean it needs both? An earlier posting to my talk page left me with an impression that the issues had already been addressed. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Michael Hardy: I think you meant to ping me, rather than Alex. I meant that someone needs to address the sourcing issues I have raised immediately above Alex Shih's comment. The article creator and you are the people best placed to do this, and the people who have an interest in fixing the issue so that the DYK nomination may move forward. This is entirely separate from the message Yoninah left you nine days ago; these are issues I raised two days previously. Vanamonde (talk) 21:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Vanamonde93: ok, I think that point is becoming clear. Just to be clear about something else: I am the original article creator, although by now RJGray is to a large extent also the creator. He knows more about the sources and history than I do. Michael Hardy (talk) 22:09, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Vanamonde93: Concerning the sourcing issue about which you state: "Indeed, I'm a little confused about how it passed the GA review, because though it's well written and I have no reasons to doubt its accuracy, the second half of "The development of Cantor's ideas" is completely unreferenced." In the GA Review, the issue of references for derivations and examples did come up with respect to the section "The Proofs". This issue is the same as the one you are raising for the second half of "The development of Cantor's ideas" (in this half of the section, I am comparing the derivations in two different proofs). Here is how I handled the issue during the GA Review (next 2 paragraphs I wrote for the GA Review):
Concerning "The proofs": My approach was to stay within the guidelines of WP:Scientific citation guidelines#Examples, derivations and restatements whose first paragraph states:
"Wikipedia is neither a textbook nor a journal. Nonetheless, in mathematics and the mathematical sciences, it is frequently helpful to quote theorems, include simple derivations, and provide illustrative examples. For reasons of notation, clarity, consistency, or simplicity it is often necessary to state things in a slightly different way than they are stated in the references, to provide a different derivation, or to provide an example. This is standard practice in journals, and does not make any claim of novelty.[1] In Wikipedia articles this does not constitute original research and is perfectly permissible – in fact, encouraged – provided that a reader who reads and understands the references can easily see how the material in the Wikipedia article can be inferred. Furthermore, copying extensively from a source with only minor modifications is not normally permitted by copyright law, unless the source has a free license."
After receiving my response, the GA reviewer dropped this issue from his list of issues. --RJGray (talk) 00:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
I don't know about that, RJGray. It's fine to simplify a proof, but even so you should cite the original. At this point, a reader who wishes to know where that proof came from has no way to find it, which is the basic purpose of WP:V. I'm not saying you should cite every sentence, but you should cite the proof. You can add explanatory footnotes with the source if required. Vanamonde (talk) 00:58, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

What is the current status of this thing? Is it in a queue to appear under "Did you know . . . ?" on the main page? Michael Hardy (talk) 22:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

@Michael Hardy: No, it is not. As I said above, the article needs to have references for all the proofs, to comply with our policy on verifiability. Once the required references have been added, I will place this in a queue. Vanamonde (talk) 01:26, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
@Vanamonde93:I have supplied the references for the proofs. Because Cantor was writing a research article for researchers, he left out simple proofs. To handle this, I did the same as I had done earlier on the proof of his uncountability theorem. I point out that he did not supply a proof and then provided a proof for Wikipedia readers. Of course, I do supply a reference to where he states the result that he does not bother proving. --RJGray (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
@RJGray: Okay, I've looked at your changes. They are an improvement, but they do not entirely address my concern. My point is fairly simple; Wikipedia is not a scholarly publication. We collate information; we do not provide new information. As such, if we are presenting a proof, it must be based on a proof published in a reliable source elsewhere. We cannot publish our own proofs, even if the editor writing said proof is quite capable of doing so without error. It is possible that Wikiproject Mathematics sees this differently, in which case I'd like to see a link to that, but I cannot see how WP:V can be satisfied any other way. Please don't take this personally; this sort of mixup often occurs when content written and reviewed by editors familiar with a specific topic is brought to wider scrutiny. If you disagree with this, please feel free to request further feedback at WT:DYK. Also, since Michael Hardy has been blocked indefinitely, I'm afraid this falls entirely on your shoulders at the moment. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 18[edit]

Dàin do Eimhir

  • Reviewed: Luis Posada Carriles
  • Comment: Some text has been copied from Sorley MacLean, but all of it was written in the last 7 days. I'd rather not nominate the latter article right now, because I am planning to do a GA on it, and there's a lot to say about him not related to this.

Created by Catrìona (talk). Self-nominated at 18:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC).

Horatio Seymour presidential campaign, 1868

Created by Futurist110 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Hook is cited/interesting, neutral, no copyright violations, article is new/long enough, images check out, no edit warring/dispute tags, etc. Few things before we promote this:
(1): QPQ is needed.
(2): For the two sources used, please specify the pages (either 1 or 2). The sources seem identical when looking at them from Wikipedia and we don't want to confuse readers into thinking they are duplicate.
(3): Though not needed for DYK, I would recommend expanding the intro a bit more.
Please ping me when this is done! MX () 14:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Please give me several days to fix all of these issues. Futurist110 (talk) 21:59, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
@Futurist110: Hello. Do you think you can get these issues fixed before end of week? MX () 14:03, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Editor has not responded to inquiries in almost two weeks. Two header tags have been raised by other editors in the article. Closing nomination. MX () 19:37, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
I've left the nominator a talk page message requesting him to respond. If there's no response or a negative response within the next few days, this can be closed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:46, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 21[edit]

Isaac I Komnenos

Gold histamenon showing Isaac I
Gold histamenon showing Isaac I
  • ... that, after he won the throne in battle, Isaac I (pictured) was the only Byzantine emperor to appear on its coins with a naked sword? Source: Kaldellis, Anthony (2017). Streams of Gold, Rivers of Blood: The Rise and Fall of Byzantium, 955 A.D. to the First Crusade. New York: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0190253223 page 219.
    • ALT1:... that, after winning the throne of the Byzantine Empire in battle, Isaac I voluntarily abdicated and retired to a monastery? Sewter, Edgar Robert Ashton, ed. (1953). The Chronographia of Michael Psellus. New Haven, Connecticut: Yale University Press. OCLC 427306 page 53.
  • Reviewed: Narmakosh
  • Comment: The image is only applicable to ALT0.

Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 09:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC).

  • On it.

    Symbol question.svg Newly GA'd; well long enough (~20k elig. chars.); obv. within policy as GA: fairly neutral with citations for the flowery verbiage like "passionate hunter", well cited, minimal→no copyvio per Earwig; repeated comma issues in page (worst bits fix'd); QPQ done and the objections there were wholly mistaken; image seems to be sourced assuming the Met permits photography and (pace the reviewer) is applicable to any hook about Isaac; hooks terse enough and minimally interesting; minor comma issues in hooks (fix'd); ALT0 struck as unsupported by the source, which calls the portrait "unusual" but nothing like "unique" (Treadgold doesn't seem to support it either; if there's no other source for the contention, similar phrasing should be removed from the article and image captions); ALT1 misleading since the abdication was not in quick succession after the conquest and was for an entirely unforeseen and different reason (he fell ill & was attempting to secure the succession).
    New hooks needed. — LlywelynII 18:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
@LlywelynII:
  • ALT2: ... that, two years after winning the throne of the Byzantine Empire in battle, Isaac I voluntarily abdicated and retired to a monastery? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:02, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Same comma issue (fix't); I'd personally strike all the other links in ALT2 since they're just going to siphon off hits from the article you worked on, but that's up to the hook writer; ALT2 is otherwise unobjectionable; but, again, if there is no textual support for ALT0, similar phrasing in the article needs to be removed or better sourced before this article and hook get promoted; WP:DON'T LIE is pretty far up the rules hierarchy as things go (Rule 4). Not a personal thing: it's fine if it was an honest mistake, but it needs to get fixed or better sourced before we move forward. — LlywelynII 22:44, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

@LlywelynII: Personally I am a fan of MOS:OL and give it free rein when I can, eg copy editing for GOCE. But in my own articles I am repeatedly picked up for it. Refreshing to be reviewed/assessed by an editor with a similar approach. Changed.

ALT0. It's in the history. Originally it was in the text and sourced. I added an image of an appropriate coin and captioned it. And thought what a good DYK it would make. Before I could do my source check prior to GAN another editor changed the wording and removed the, presumably inaccurate, source. But not the caption. When it was promoted I actually wrote the ALT before looking at the article - after all, I was the nominator and I hadn't changed it, and I had checked all the sources prior to nomination. I read what I thought was there - probably I was too busy admiring the image and reading the caption to that which supported my preconception. The text, which I clearly didn't read, was/is much blander about the implications of his naked sword. I have just amended the image caption to match. Thanks for picking it up. I am hacked off that I let it through, and alarmed that I was sloppy enough to get it into a DYK nom. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:55, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Henry Garber Hanks

  • ... that Henry G. Hanks (pictured) sailed to India as a teen and painted houses in Cleveland before becoming the namesake for hanksite?
    • ALT1:... that Henry G. Hanks (pictured) sailed to India as a teen and painted houses in Cleveland before becoming California's first state mineralogist?
    • ALT2:... that Henry G. Hanks (pictured) left Cleveland to join the California Gold Rush, only to end up selling paint and studying mineralogy?
    • ALT3:... that Henry G. Hanks (pictured) was a sailor, sign maker, and paint salesman before becoming the US's mineral superintendent for the 1878 Universal Exhibition?

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 18:14, 21 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @LlywelynII: New enough and long enough. QPQ done. As to the hook options, I've linked a few relevant topics in the hook:

    Don't do that. It needlessly removes clicks from the pages being promoted by the DYK. If people want to know more about hanksite (let alone Cleveland), they can click through to the new article and work from there. — LlywelynII 13:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

    I like ALT0 and ALT2 the most of the options available. Most of the hook elements have citations, but some don't. Do any of the sources cover the sailing to India or painting houses in Cleveland? There's no inline citation for either event in the article.

    Yes, there are. — LlywelynII 13:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

    We're there if you can get that added. Raymie (tc) 05:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Great. If you weren't aware, a source at the end of a paragraph etc. includes everything before it. Per policy, we're supposed to prefer that style rather than put citations after every single sentence, although you're welcome to duplicate the citations further if you think it necessary for people coming into the article. — LlywelynII 13:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 22[edit]

Wheels Up

  • ... that Wheels Up is an aviation company with members who pay for on demand use of the corporate fleet of jets.
  • Comment: There is some issue on whether this corporate article resembles an WP:ADVERT. Let's discuss.

Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 07:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: how does on-demand air service differ from an air charter? Mindmatrix 20:13, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
I would presume that an air charter involves paying open market rates for rental service while this is a membership model, in which one rents a plane at member rates. It is not clear what advance notification is needed for an air charter.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment regardless of anything, "on demand" in the hook is a dab link. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg I think a new hook is needed here since this company is not the only example of a subscription-based airline, for example Surf Air. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 23[edit]

Phonetics

  • ... that the study of phonetics began 2300 years ago with Pānini's description of voicing? Source: Kiparsky (1993) describes Pānini's theory of voicing, Caffrey (2017) says "Many linguistics experts credit a Sanskrit grammarian named Panini as the earliest proponent of phonetics."
  • Reviewed: Ladder hornsnails
  • Comment: I like the hook I've suggested, but I would gladly welcome suggestions for other hooks. It's a rather abstract topic, so it's somewhat difficult to come up with an interesting fact that uses the page name. For the current hook, it should be noted that Pānini described more than just voicing, but Kiparsky (1993) focused mostly on that and it makes the hook a bit hookier.

5x expanded by Wugapodes (talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 25 August 2018 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Great job with this article! You just are missing QPQ. Catrìona (talk) 02:33, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

ALT1: ...that socio-phonetics studies how pronunciation signals membership in social groups, such as those defined by gender, sexuality, or race?
@Catrìona: I had reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Cerithideopsis scalariformis. I piped it so it probably didn't look like you were expecting, my apologies. Thank you for the hook suggestion, though I prefer my original proposal. The article doesn't talk about sociophonetics much (yet) so it's not referenced in the article technically, and I also plan to write that sociophonetics article soon so I'd rather save a sociophonetics hook for that. Wugapodes [thɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 02:54, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, sounds good. Everything is in order but I'll withhold the check mark for the moment in case alternate hooks are suggested. Catrìona (talk) 03:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
@Catrìona: BlueMoonset on their talk page rightly raised a problem with the current hook. I haven't come up with a much better hook, but am proposing a few alts that shuld more accurately reflect the sources.
ALT2: ... that the study of phonetics began as early as 2600 years ago with Sanskrit grammarians like Pānini who around 350 BCE described how sounds are voiced?
ALT3: ... that the Sanskrit grammarian Pānini provided a phonetic theory of voicing around 350 BCE?
I'd also be interested in what @BlueMoonset: thinks of the two. Any preferences between the two? I like ALT2 slightly more, but want to make sure it fully addresses the issues they raised on the talk page before it's run. I'm not sure if it's 2600 or 2500 years since 6th century BCE, I really am not the best at arithmetic, so please correct that if I'm still off. Wugapodes [thɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 04:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Emilio Álvarez Icaza

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:58, 24 August 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 25[edit]

Miranda Esmonde-White

Miranda Esmonde-White
Miranda Esmonde-White

Source: "The participants were—with the likely exception of Olympic gold medalist and hockey goaltender Kim St-Pierre—working up a sweat..." (Montreal-Gazette)

Source: "Miranda Esmonde-White, a former ballerina and creator of the long-running PBS fitness show “Classical Stretch"..." (Washington Post)

5x expanded by SusanLesch (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 30 August 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 26[edit]

European pilchard

  • ... that the European pilchard is sold fresh, frozen or canned, but much of the catch is made into fish meal? Source: "It is often marketed fresh, frozen or canned, but it is also processed into fishmeal"

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg Nice expansion on good sources, no copyvio obvious. Hook fairly interesting, and somewhat quirky, because until you reach the last word, you don't even know it's a fish ;) - intentionally so? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I added some photos, and content about marketing, including mentioning that the young are one of the many fish marketed as "sardines". HLHJ (talk) 23:51, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you HLHJ. You have made some useful additions to the article and I have added your name to the credits for this DYK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:12, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh, thanks, Cwmhiraeth! I didn't expect that. I like and appreciate your species articles, they really add to the encyclopedia. It's fun to add a few images to one. HLHJ (talk) 23:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook says "much of the catch is made into fish meal" while the source says "it is also processed into fishmeal". Yoninah (talk) 23:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: How about ALT1?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Yes, thanks. Restoring tick for ALT1 per Gerda Arendt's review. Yoninah (talk) 12:06, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg This has been pulled from prep per a discussion at WT:DYK. It appears that a new hook is needed. Proposals raised there included the following:

A possible hook regarding the statement "Multiple batches of eggs are produced over a long breeding period, total fecundity being 50,000 to 60,000" was also suggested. Discussion can continue here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:01, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

It should certainly be pointed out that Cwmhiraeth registered the following objections at WT:DYK to ALT2 and ALT3 (I believe): I don't like either of these suggestions. According to #3 in the article, there are twelve different species of fish that are acceptable in canned sardine or sardine-type products. Eleven of these do not grow up to become pilchards. I don't know whether that extended to ALT4, which may have its own problems without the ubiquitous "that". BlueMoonset (talk) 22:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Of course, that means with the original hook gone (and ALT1 presumably with issues given the WT:DYK discussion), a new hook is needed... BlueMoonset (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
To resolve the stalemate here, I have added some more information to the article and suggest ALT5:

2018 Wheelchair Basketball World Championship

  • ... that the 2018 Wheelchair Basketball World Championship saw the best ever performance by Team Great Britain, which won the men's competition and was runner-up in the women's? Source: "History has been made at the 2018 World Championships with the GB men having won their first ever World Championships and the women securing their first ever place at a final and silver medal at a major." [11]

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk), Matt294069 (talk), and Panirom10 (talk). Nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk) at 08:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC).

Lioma

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 14:51, 27 August 2018 (UTC).

Salton Buttes

Red Island and Rock Hill are three of the domes, as seen from Obsidian Butte which is a fourth dome.
Red Island and Rock Hill are three of the domes, as seen from Obsidian Butte which is a fourth dome.
  • ... that the Salton Buttes (pictured) in Southern California are lava domes which formed less than 2,000 years ago?

5x expanded by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 16:47, 26 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Nice article. I've had a preliminary look at it. It's newly-expanded and Earwig informs me that you have copied the titles of the sources you quote, which seems fine. It will take a while for me to read the sourcing, as it is extensively-referenced. On content, it might be appropriate to mention the hazard to humans (and maybe the obsidian source) in the lede, as it is likely to be of interest to readers.
The sentence construction in the article often requires a reader to remember half a statement through several other clauses before reaching the other half of the idea at the other end of the sentence. I can't find the source I'm looking for here, but there's research like this, which shows that this sort of structure needlessly loads working memory and decreases comprehension. HLHJ (talk) 02:55, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I'll add this stuff in the lead. I am not sure in general how to resolve the readability issues, though. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:04, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
HLHJ Any updates? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:05, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Apologies, Jo-Jo Eumerus, I have neglected this. I have just done a through copyedit; I can describe the sort of thing I did and the reasons for it if you want to know. I hope I haven't written in my misunderstandings, but generally the text seemed unambiguous.
I have also added some more images, and requested a contrast adjustment on the otherwise excellent picture of a gryphon. I have not checked all your sources! I will try and check some more. You seem very conscientious, and checking them all is not a requirement. I have added names to the co-ordinate tags, and one of them, for Mullet Island, seems a bit off (see the OpenStreetMap link). You have accurately reflected the source, but it looks like the USGS is wrong. I can e-mail them and ask, unless you would prefer to do so?
There are some bits that I think are a bit too jargony, such as "The domes are formed by rhyolite,[1] which has an alkaline and calcium-poor composition[16] and defines a potassium-rich suite". I couldn't figure out a way to add wikilinks that clarified that, so a bit more in-text explanation might be needed. It's amazing that we have no geothermal field article, but that's by-the-by.


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - I'm not sure if the hook fact is ideal, given impression of some remaining controversy
  • Interesting: Red XN - Could be more hooky

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg HLHJ (talk) 04:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure the ages are the best thing to have in the hook. A bit more context in the "Research history" section might help; mention of when the assorted research was done, or any details surrounding it (motivations, funding, new research group, etc.), would help give a sense of a coherent history. Some hook suggestions:
  • ALT1 ... that as the Salton Sea dries up, the (pictured) gryphons are multiplying? (other picture used)
  • ALT2 ... that the Salton Buttes volcanoes (pictured) are growing on top of an embryonic ocean?
  • ALT3 ... that at the Salton Buttes (pictured), you can climb a volcano to its peak and still be below sea level?
  • ALT4 ... that one of the largest and warmest geothermal fields on the planet lies around the Salton Buttes (pictured)?
  • ALT5 ... that obsidian from the quarries of the Salton Buttes (pictured) was widely traded?
I will get back to this faster, and if I don't, don't hesitate to nag me. HLHJ (talk) 04:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
The existing map is awkwardly cropped to irrelevant political boundaries. Would one of these work, with overlaid labels? Or we could crop something out of OSM. HLHJ (talk) 04:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Problem with these two maps is that they need modifications and that the current map is really the standard for such maps. I've renumbered your ALT hooks, I think that ALT5 might be the most interesting (other than ALT1 which would cause complaints about WP:EASTEREGGs) but not really much more than the currently proposed one. As for the "The domes..." sentence you flagged as jargon, I don't think that such text can ever be plain - this is a natural sciences topic after all. There is something wonky with the formatting of the last image you added, it seems to be breaking the paragraph flow on my monitor. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:03, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
I've modified some of your edits for the reasons indicated in the page history; mainly the "eruptive history" section as it was controversial but now it's agreed upon that the eruptions took place quite recently. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
A salse bubbles carbon dioxide in the Nielsen Field
Thanks, I was pretty sure I'd misunderstand something. Good to have it fixed. I've requested a better map, and failing that will make one following the standard format for mountains, but cropped to the geology. The "Research history" section does a good job of listing what was estimated and how, but some information about why the estimates are different would be good. I've had another go at wikilinking that sentence about rhyolite composition, and requested a QAPF diagram on the linked page, not sure how helpful that would be but it's a start.
I've played with the dimensions of my window, but I can't make the paragraph formatting break. I can't see anything wrong with the markup. I may be missing something; if it's still bad, any details you can give might help. Do you think the salse image would be a better DYK illustration? The photo quality and interest are certainly high, but it's clearly not a butte, so it would need a modified hook.
I think in the DYK context, WP:EASTEREGGs are called "tease" hooks, and are acceptable; Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know uses only tease hooks. But I could be wrong, and if someone more experienced could comment, please, that would be good. HLHJ (talk) 04:21, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, "Salton Buttes" is the name of the volcano. Then again place names do not necessarily have to make sense. I'll see about adding a little about why the age estimate differ. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Trey Lewis (basketball)

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Runningibis (talk) at 15:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 27[edit]

Sturm Cigarette Company

An ad for Nazi cigarettes
An ad for Nazi cigarettes
  • ... that the Nazi SA was funded by its own cigarette company? Title:Nazi storm-troopers’ cigarettes, "...die 1929 in Dresden gegründete Firma Sturm. Ihr NS-orientierter Inhaber Arthur Dressler möchte die Marken „Trommler“, „Alarm“ und „Neue Front“ zu Standardzigaretten der SA machen. Dafür soll den Schlägertruppen Ernst Röhms eine Prämie gezahlt werden: Je mehr Sturm-Umsatz, desto höher die Prämie. Da die SA keine Mitgliedsbeiträge erhebt, sondern von Zuwendungen der NSDAP abhängt, kommt der paramilitärischen Organisation diese Finanzierungsidee wie gerufen. Fortan agitiert das wachsende Heer der Braunhemden geschäftstüchtig gegen die etablierten Hersteller, vor allem gegen Reemtsma. Den Erfolg fördert, dass die SA-Mitglieder geradezu zum Rauchen von Sturm-Zigaretten genötigt werden." Own rough translation:"...the Sturm Company, founded in 1929 in Dresden. The pro-Nazi Arthur Dressler, who registered the company, wanted to make the brands „Trommler“, „Alarm“ and „Neue Front“ the standard cigarettes of the SA. In exchange, Ernst Röhm's violent troops were to be paid a royalty: higher sales meant a higher kickback. As the SA did not charge membership fees, but was reliant on donations from the Nazi party [leadership], the paramilitary organization found this financing system ideal. From then on, the growing army of Brownshirts agitated diligently against the established competition, above all Reemstma. SA members were compelled to smoke Sturm cigarettes, which helped assure success." [12]"
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: Women in Iceland
  • Comment: This is a weird one, and I'm not sure what would be appropriate as a hook or even an image here (there's one of unemployed SA men smoking in the article). The Great Depression, the fall of the Weimar Republic, street violence, the Night of the Long Knives, and even the Holocaust are background to what would otherwise be the rather banal story of a short-lived cigarette company. Advice is very welcome. I'd like to add some better context to the article before it goes up. A warning, most of the sources are in German. HLHJ (talk) 00:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

5x expanded by HLHJ (talk). Self-nominated at 00:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Interesting article! Suggest a shorter caption: "An ad for Nazi cigarettes". For me the picture is a bit borderline in terms of visibility, but OK. You might try reducing the size of some pictures in the article; on my small laptop screen it produces nasty sandwiching effects. Catrìona (talk) 01:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that, although the Nazi Party opposed tobacco smoking, the SA was funded by its own cigarette company?[13]

  • Thank you for the very fast review, Catrìona! I think your caption suggestion is good; "A Nazi cigarette ad" is short but ambiguous, "Nazis advertise their cigarette brands" is also five words, but a lot longer, and I'm not sure if the extra clarity is worth it. I increased the picture size to avoid nasty sandwiching effects; I'll have to have another go with a different scales and aspect ratios, sorry.
I've added some economic context to the bald statements of prices in obsolete currency, and a bit about Nazi tobacco policies. I made a stupid mistake yesterday; I accidentally implied that the entire population smoked, substituting population numbers for the number of smokers. I have fixed.
I've been reading some recent research (including the link you included, which I'd somehow missed; I have now added it). It looks to me as if the Nazi Party opposed smoking in the same way that they opposed monopoly, state ownership of businesses, supporting large private corporations, letting women work (outside home and farm), and restrictions of freedom of religion and worker's rights. When it was politically convenient to oppose it, they opposed it, and when it was politically convenient to do it, they did it.

ALT3: ... that, although Nazi Party ideology condemned tobacco smoking, the SA founded its own cigarette company?

ALT4: ... that the Nazis founded a cigarette company to fund their SA (while officially condemning smoking)?

The latter seems fair, as the founding was done by the party leadership, SA leaders, and private individuals who supported the Nazis, with all putting in money. Having the bold text make some sense on its own would be good. I'm not sure most readers will recognize "Sturmabteilung". "Brownshirts" might be more recognizable. "Stormtroopers" will probably evoke Star Wars. HLHJ (talk) 04:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Or, sticking closer to your source:

ALT5: ... that the Nazis founded a cigarette company to fund their SA (despite the party's anti-smoking faction)?

ALT6: ... that the Nazis founded a cigarette company to fund their SA (despite Hitler's dislike of smoking)?

I somewhat favour ALT5. Comments from anyone welcome. HLHJ (talk) 02:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Hello HLHJ, sorry I didn't notice your reply earlier. On the new hook suggestions, it seems like the "Nazi Party ideology" should be replaced with "Nazi ideology", wikilinked to Nazism. Since the article is just on the cigarette company, not on the founding of the company, the boldfaced links should be reduced to the words "a cigarette company". Personally, I am not sure that parentheses work in a hook;I suggest replacing with commas. I still like ALT2 but some of the alternatives could also work with the above tweaks. Catrìona (talk) 09:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • No problem, Catrìona, I initially forgot to ping you. Agree on the ideology wikilink , but Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany might be an even better target. I'd like to fix some of its problems before linking to it from the main page, though (in progress). I like ALT2 too, I"m just uncertain as to whether the recent sources support the first clause. Some of the most powerful members and sections of the Nazi Party supported smoking, against Hitler and a faction within the party. "Nazis founded a cigarette company" does suggest that the article is about the founding. "...a cigarette company to fund the Nazi SA" might make a better boldfaced link, as it describes the target better. HLHJ (talk) 18:56, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

ALT7: ... that, despite the party's anti-smoking faction, a Nazi cigarette company funded the SA paramilitary?

(edit conflict) OK, as this is actually in the prep area, I've been bold and edited Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany; despite a request to discuss changes on the article talk page, there seems not to have been any actual discussion since 2016, and edits to the talk page and the article brought no response. We need to decide on a hook; I've tried to include all your recommendations, including "concise". HLHJ (talk) 04:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Per WT:DYK, this was not ready for promotion. Alt hooks were still being discussed. — Maile (talk) 01:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Great, not so urgent anymore. Removing the parends was a good suggestion, they really didn't work. I've attempted a short, hooky bold text. I'll see if I can think of anything better along the lines you suggest, but would appreciate your comments. HLHJ (talk) 04:13, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

I like ALT7. It is hooky and does not misrepresent the subject. However, "SA paramilitary" does not scan for me, since paramilitary is usually an adjective. I suggest instead "Sturmabteilung (SA)". Catrìona (talk) 04:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

ALT8: ... that, despite the party's anti-smoking faction, a Nazi cigarette company (advertisement pictured) funded the Sturmabteilung (SA)?

Thank you, Catrìona. It is often "paramilitary group" or "wing" or some such. I think I was sort of trying to say Freikorps, so "militia" might work better than "paramilitary", apart from sometimes being associated with the state. I'm OK with "Sturmabteilung" too, I'm just trying, probably uselessly, to shoehorn in a description of the SA for those unaware of what it was. I'm also happy with your original caption suggestion, unless you prefer something else. HLHJ (talk) 05:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go then. Note to promoter that ALT8 is accepted, and the image caption should be "An ad for Nazi cigarettes" as discussed above. Catrìona (talk) 05:38, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Added (advertisement pictured) note to the ALT8 hook; striking hooks 1-7 not approved; adjusted image caption as noted. — Maile (talk) 11:56, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Looks good. Thank you, Maile. We could probably say (ad pictured), for brevity. HLHJ (talk) 18:31, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
This seems to be in limbo, as it is not linked from anywhere in the DYK pipeline. Catrìona, Maile, I probably shouldn't move this into "approved" myself. May I ask one of you to move it? I've reordered the hook slightly to make the parends less intrusive, but if you don't think it's preferable that's fine. HLHJ (talk) 01:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

ALT9: ... that, despite the party's anti-smoking faction, the Sturmabteilung (SA) was funded by a Nazi cigarette company (ad pictured)?

HLHJ Moves to the approved list are done automatically by a bot. — Maile (talk) 01:29, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Maile, I was not thinking. Should I put it back on the nominated page, then, per the automated message on my talk page? HLHJ (talk)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg HLHJ Apparently, I'm the one who dropped the ball. I so seldom pull anything from prep and didn't think that it should have been placed back in the nominations page. Sorry about that. It's back on the list now. Also, I'm putting the turn-around icon on this so reviewers will know that ALT9 needs to be approved. — Maile (talk) 00:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
No problem, thank you. I put a note on Catrìona's talk page about the ALT9 hook. Reply:

@HLHJ: Looks good but I think someone else will have to promote it, because I have contributed slightly to the current hook. Catrìona (talk) 01:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Which is fair enough. Any volunteers? HLHJ (talk) 01:55, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 28[edit]

Érick Valencia Salazar

  • ... that the Guadalajara International Airport cancelled several flights after the arrest of Érick Valencia Salazar? Source: "Spanish: También el aeropuerto de Guadalajara resultó afectado: se cancelaron algunos vuelos y se demoró la llegada de otros. / English: Also the airport of Guadalajara was affected: some flights were canceled and the arrival of others was delayed." (Sin Embargo)
    • ALT1:... that the U.S. Consulate in Guadalajara issued a warning to Americans living there after the arrest of Érick Valencia Salazar? Source: "Spanish: En tanto, el consulado de Estados Unidos pidió a todos los ciudadanos de ese país asentados en la región tomar toda clase de precauciones. / English: Meanwhile, the US consulate asked all citizens of that country settled in the region to take all kinds of precautions." (Sin Embargo)
    • ALT2:... that the Mexican government asked civilians in Guadalajara to stay indoors after the arrest of Érick Valencia Salazar? Source: "Spanish: ... motivó que las autoridades sugirieran a la población no salir de sus casas o centros de trabajo para permitir el más rápido tránsito de los cuerpos de seguridad. / English: it motivated authorities to suggest civilians to not to leave their houses or work centers to allow the quickest transit of the security forces." (La Jornada)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/SpongeBob SquarePants (season 9)
  • Comment: Complex biography involving a man who the government suspects he is a criminal, but violated his due process and mishandled evidence before presenting the case in court. Subject in question was released due to these violations, but investigators still suspect he is active.

Moved to mainspace by MX (talk). Self-nominated at 13:23, 29 August 2018 (UTC).

Seagull (gamer)

5x expanded by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) and StarfishCookie (talk). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 05:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Unfortunately, neither nominator has been active over the past few weeks: TSC's last edit was two weeks ago, while other than a single edit on September 11, StarfishCookie's last activity was in August. As it is unlikely that either will be able to provide an immediate response to the article concern, add to the fact that the article feels incomplete without the issue being addressed, it is with regret that I mark this nomination for closure. If either editor returns to editing before this is closed and responds to the above comment, then the nomination may proceed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
    • @Narutolovehinata5: I didn't see anything about Seagull's early life (at least before he started gaming). I can look, but...
1) There's absolutely nothing in the DYK criteria that says an article has to be "complete". In fact, by focusing on new articles, there's an implicit expectation that the articles won't be perfect when they hit DYK.
2) There's no shortage of biography articles that are missing early life information.
So, I don't see why you would be failing this nomination. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
@The Squirrel Conspiracy: Please read WP:DYKSG#D7. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 30[edit]

Battle of Meligalas

The cemetery for those executed at Meligalas.
The cemetery for those executed at Meligalas.
  • ... that, in the aftermath of the German withdrawal from the Peloponnese, Greek left-wing partisans defeated and summarily executed some 700 to 1,100 Nazi collaborators in the town of Meligalas? Source: This is a summary of the article's key points -- please see the lead section.
    • ALT1:... that until 1982, Greek government officials organized and participated in a commemoration service in Meligalas for Nazi collaborators who had been defeated and summarily executed in 1944? Source: "το 1982, όταν το υπ. Εσωτερικών γνωστοποιεί στο δήμο τον τερματισμό της συμμετοχής των επίσημων κρατικών αρχών" (English: "in 1982, when the Ministry of Internal Affairs communicated to the municipality the cessation of the participation of official state authorities" -- link)
    • ALT2:... that the bloody events of 1944 in Meligalas resurfaced in Greek political discourse as a rallying cry for anti-fascists against the far right? Source: "ο Μελιγαλάς αρχίζει έτσι μέσα στη δεκαετία του 2000 να διεκδικείται ρητά σαν συμβολικό θετικό υπόδειγμα μιας αποφασιστικής στάσης απέναντι στον ντόπιο φασισμό" (English: "starting in the mid-2000s Meligalas is explicitly reclaimed as a symbolic model of a decisive stance against local fascism" -- link)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Nominated by Ashmedai 119 (talk) at 14:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on August 31[edit]

Simulation Theory (album)

Created/expanded by PhilipTerryGraham (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC).

Quodlibet (card game)

William Tell as the Ober of Acorns
William Tell as the Ober of Acorns

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC).

Notebook scandal

Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Self-nominated at 17:26, 31 August 2018 (UTC).

Zena Edosomwan

Zena Edosomwan
Zena Edosomwan

Created by Tchebert23 (talk). Nominated by Runningibis (talk) at 16:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC).

Shannon Evans

Shannon Evans
Shannon Evans

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Runningibis (talk) at 16:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 1[edit]

Phạm Thận Duật

PhamThanDuat.jpg

5x expanded by Amyclam (talk). Nominated by Seazzy (talk) at 18:23, 3 September 2018 (UTC).

Ptolemy I Soter

Sources: Pomeroy, Sarah B. (1990). Women in Hellenistic Egypt. Detroit: Wayne State University Press. p. 16. ISBN 9780814322307. while Ptolemaic Egypt was a monarchy with a Greek ruling class.  Redford, Donald B., ed. (2000). The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780195102345. Cleopatra VII was born to Ptolemy XII Auletes (80–57 BCE, ruled 55–51 BCE) and Cleopatra, both parents being Macedonian Greeks.  Ptolemy I at Ancient History Encyclopedia.

Created/expanded by Векочел (talk). Self-nominated at 19:30, 1 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New promotion to GA status verified. This appears to be the nominator's first DYK nomination, so no QPQ review of another DYK nomination is needed. Earwig found other sites that have copied from us, but no inappropriate copying in the other direction. However, to meet DYK standards (which are different from GA standards) we need a footnote giving a reliable source for the section "Fictional portrayals". Additionally, although the article hints at it (and of course it's true), it doesn't ever seem to explicitly say that he founded the Ptolemaic dynasty or that Cleopatra belonged to the same dynasty. For that matter the claim that his rank under Alexander was general, while stated explicitly in the lead, is neither sourced there nor expanded and sourced later; I'm surprised the GA review didn't complain about this, as it's a violation of MOS:LEAD (this time part of the GA rules) and in any case must also be sourced for DYK. The hook is a good one, but to use it the article needs to have a sentence or sentences containing the same claims, with a footnote on that exact sentence or sentences. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:22, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Selangor silvered langur

Selangor silvered langur mother and infant at Bukit Melawati
Selangor silvered langur mother and infant at Bukit Melawati

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self-nominated at 01:37, 2 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Is there a way to make the hook snappier? I think it's on the right track, but it feels too long or too complex to be hooky. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Julio Rodríguez (photographer)

  • ... that Mexican photographer Julio Rodríguez worked as a business manager, and rediscovered his passion for photography after traveling through Baja California? Source: link
  • Reviewed: TBA

Created by Jaespinoza (talk). Self-nominated at 23:35, 1 September 2018 (UTC).

Letter of Ali ibn Abi Talib to Malik al-Ashtar

  • ... that the letter authored by Ali, the first Shia Imam, to Malik al-Ashtar, governor of Egypt, includes a model for governing based on justice for every place and every time? [16][17][18]

Created by Saff V. (talk). Self-nominated at 08:21, 1 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: Symbol question.svg The article is long and new enough. However, I prefer to ask you resolve the grammatical issues and do the required technical edits (mostly removing extra spaces and adding them where ever needed), before making any further comments. Let me know when you're finished with it. --Mhhossein talk 14:21, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
@Mhhossein: thanks for review the DYK. As you nominated to grammatical issues, I asked GorgeCustersSabre help me and he do the copy edit.I think during this time I get oppurtunity to remove other issues. Regards! Saff V. (talk) 11:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 2[edit]

Sunday Bloody Sunday (John Lennon and Yoko Ono song)

Converted from a redirect by Rlendog (talk). Self-nominated at 23:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

  • I would have no problem with holding this off until January 30, since that is a relevant date for this song, although as an American I will leave it to others to decide if that would be politically incorrect. Rlendog (talk) 00:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Rafaela Requesens

  • ... that the student president of the Central University of Venezuela, Rafaela Requesens, was arrested with her brother in August 2018 on suspicion of attempted assassination? Source: Reuters "Venezuela’s opposition said that lawmaker Juan Requesens and his sister Rafaela Requesens, a student leader, were arrested in their Caracas apartment on Tuesday night, after President Nicolas Maduro ordered a crackdown following drone explosions at a weekend rally."
    • ALT1:... that Venezuelan political activist Rafaela Requesens was training to be a flamenco dancer before a knee injury in college? Source: Climax/El Estímulo (in Spanish) "me metí en flamenco y ahí me quedé ... una lesión en la rodilla truncó o fracturó su sueño de ser bailaora" — "I found flamenco and I stayed there ... a knee injury broke up her dreams of being a dancer"
    • ALT2:... that both Requesens siblings, Juan and Rafaela, have led student and political protests in Venezuela? Various sources, see their pages.
  • Reviewed: less than 5, but Boelcke-Kaserne concentration camp anyway
  • Comment: Other possibly hooks include having 5 tattoos and a lip piercing, going to culinary school during college, being only the second female FCU-UCV President... a goldmine for interesting hooks, really.

Created/expanded by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 03:30, 4 September 2018 (UTC).

Dallas B. Phemister, Phemister graft

  • Reviewed: Two QPQs are required for multiple noms, I believe. I'll deal with them shortly.
  • Comment: I've never done a multiple-article hook, so please let me know if I've screwed anything up.

5x expanded by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 06:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 3[edit]

Hijabophobia

  • Reviewed: yet not done

Created by Mhhossein (talk). Self-nominated at 18:50, 10 September 2018 (UTC).

Don't Look Now (It Ain't You or Me)

  • ... that while John Fogerty shared many of the political concerns of the hippie generation, the political content of the lyrics he wrote for the Creedence Clearwater Revival song "Don't Look Now (It Ain't You or Me)" was critical of hippie attitudes? "There were things going on in the country that upset me," John says, "but having grown up in the 'hippie' generation there were a lot of things about my own generation that upset me as well. The song 'Don't Look Now' was trying to address that." Bordowitz (2007)

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self-nominated at 17:42, 8 September 2018 (UTC).

East Sutherland Gaelic

  • Reviewed: Ethan Sonneborn
  • Comment: The content was originally written from 3 September on the Nancy Dorian page, but I had to split it off. The Dorian article cannot be co-nominated as it has not undergone fivefold expansion.

Created by Catrìona (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 4[edit]

Sociophonetics

  • ... that a sociophonetic study found young boys lower the pitch of their voice even before puberty to seem more masculine? It's in Holmes and Wilson Chapter 7, I was viewing the Ebook on google books which doesn't have page numbers (it can be verified there), but I will look at the hard copy once I'm back at work in a week or so.

Created by Wugapodes (talk). Self-nominated at 07:47, 11 September 2018 (UTC).

Türkan Rado

  • ... that Türkan Rado was the first female professor of jurisprudence in Turkey?

Source: "Türkiye'nin ilk kadın hukuk profesörü olan Prof. Dr. Türkan Rado" (in Turkish) [21]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 6 September 2018 (UTC).

Fergie Aitken

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 14:14, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

Ana María Campos

The Ana María Monument, in a square on a street both named after her, in Maracaibo
The Ana María Monument, in a square on a street both named after her, in Maracaibo
  • ... that Venezuelan freedom fighter Ana María Campos died from torture injuries in the shallows of Lake Maracaibo, five years after supporting the revolutionary victory there? Source: 1 "murió Ana María, algunos historiadores afirman que fue bañándose en las aguas el Lago de Maracaibo al sufrir un ataque de epilepsia, producto del trauma físico que le dejó la tortura [...] presenciar como sus sueños de libertad se hacían realidad con la victoria de los patriotas en la Batalla Naval del Lago de Maracaibo" (English: "Ana María died, historians affirm that she was bathed in the waters of Lake Maracaibo and suffered an epileptic attack, the product of phyiscal trauma as a result of her torture [...] she was present as her dreams of freedom came true with the victory of the Venezuelans at the Battle of Lake Maracaibo")
  • Reviewed: (3rd nom)
  • Comment: I don't have strong feelings about keeping the image with the hook, though it does establish her legacy.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

Kaiser Franz Joseph I-class cruiser

Kaiserin Elisabeth on 8 December 1892
Kaiserin Elisabeth on 8 December 1892

? Source: "By December 1892, when he boarded the Kaiserin Elisabeth, Francis Ferdinand was badly in need of the escape and diversion of foreign travel...Their route went from Trieste via the Suez Canal to Ceylon, then Bombay, where Francis Ferdinand and his personal entourage disembarked for a tour of India. The Kaiserin Elisabeth met Francis Ferdinand at Calcutta, and the voyage proceeded by way of the Dutch East Indies to Sydney, where the archduke again left the ship in order to tour the Australian outback. From Sydney the cruise continued through the islands of the southwest Pacific, then to Singapore, Hong Kong, and Japan. The Kaiserin Elisabeth left Francis Ferdinand at the end of his Japanese tour and went on to show the flag in East Asian Waters before returning home by way of the Suez Canal later in 1893. The archduke continued his circumnavegation of the globe...In October 1893, he arrived in Vienna from Le Harve, to be welcomed home by Francis Joseph." (Sondhaus 1994, pp. 124-125)

    • ALT1:... that the failure of the Kaiser Franz Joseph I-class cruisers contributed to the Austro-Hungarian Navy's decision to construct a series of battleships in the early 20th century? Source: "...the support for his "Jeune École" fleet faded away and Austria-Hungary returned to capital sip construction with the building of the Habsburg class battleships, the first of which was laid down in 1899." (Sieche 1995, p. 32) "...the Pola group's emphasis on battleships over cruisers repudiated the Jeune Ecole philosophy." (Sondhaus 1994, p. 102)

Moved to mainspace by White Shadows (talk). Self-nominated at 03:58, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

Reggie Upshaw

Reggie Upshaw
Reggie Upshaw

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Runningibis (talk) at 00:56, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

Puisand Lai

Puisand Lai
Puisand Lai

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:12, 4 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new, long enough, and within policy... hook size is fine, but its content should be more interesting... QPQ done and image is licensed correctly. Runningibis (talk) 22:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Élodie Tessier

Élodie Tessier
Élodie Tessier
  • ... that Canadian national wheelchair basketball player Élodie Tessier (pictured) is only 3 feet 11 inches (1.19 m) tall? Source: "Malgré ses 3’11, Élodie est aujourd’hui une joueuse de basket accomplie" ([23])

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:05, 4 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi Hawkeye7, review follows: article moved to mainspace 4 September; By my count (1482) it is marginally below the minimum length for DYK, though this could be readily remedied; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; image is freely licensed by uploader and works well at 100px; hook fact is interesting, cited in the article and checks out to the French language source. A teeny bit of expansion of the article and this one should be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 15:46, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
    Done. Now at 1,593 characters. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:53, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks Hawkeye7. One query I have is should the article be at Élodie Tessier (with the accent)? - Dumelow (talk) 20:05, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
After reading WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS a few times, I decided to do so. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: Would dropping "wheelchair" from the hook be considered misleading the reader? I think it'd make for a rather interesting hook. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 5[edit]

La Belle et la Bête (opera)

Philip Glass in 1993
Philip Glass in 1993

Created by LouisAlain (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:17, 12 September 2018 (UTC).

Emil Mattiesen

Emil Mattiesen c. 1910
Emil Mattiesen c. 1910
  • ... that Emil Mattiesen (pictured) published musical compositions such as song collections, and books in German on parapsychology? Source: several

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:49, 12 September 2018 (UTC).

Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi

Chao­phraya Phra­sadet Suren­thara­thibodi
Chao­phraya Phra­sadet Suren­thara­thibodi
  • ... that Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi (pictured) wrote a manual on etiquette in order to teach Siam's newly educated class proper behaviour? Source: "From the late nineteenth century, however, another genre of literature on manners began to appear, written to instruct students in the newly established modern education system about the personal qualities necessary for a career in the expanding royal bureaucracy. This article examines the most famous of these didactic texts, Qualities of a Gentleman, written by the prominent educational reformer Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi (1867–1916)."[24]
    • ALT1:... that Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi (pictured) wrote the lyrics to the Thai patriotic song "Samakkhi Chumnum", which is set to the tune of "Auld Lang Syne"? Cited to a Thai source in the article, but also covered by this press release: "... he wrote textbooks for instilling discipline in Thai people and wrote a Thai version of the Scottish song “Auld Lang Syne” song in order to build a sense of unity in the people of Thailand."[25]

Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:16, 12 September 2018 (UTC).

Unavowed

  • ... that in Unavowed, players start the game by having their character exorcised?

Created by Anonymous471364 (talk) and SoWhy (talk). Nominated by SoWhy (talk) at 08:51, 11 September 2018 (UTC).

Imaqtpie

  • ... that professional gamer Imaqtpie earns over US$2 million annually playing League of Legends on Twitch.tv? Source: "According to Santana's management company Everyday Influencers, this huge collective audience generates $2 million a year in earnings for him, and that's before you factor in any sponsorship money. " (Rolling Stone, archived from the original)
    • ALT1:... that professional League of Legends player Imaqtpie was married in a t-shirt and shorts? Source: "They were married in a courthouse, and in what would have been less of a surprise to his fans, Imaqtpie got married in a t-shirt and shorts." (Daily Mail)
  • Reviewed: Exempt from QPQ.
  • Comment: Alternate hooks accepted.

Created by Derek M (talk). Self-nominated at 18:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

Bontecou Lake

Bontecou Lake with low water in autumn
Bontecou Lake with low water in autumn

Source: [26], p. 60; "Bontecou Lake is unique in that it is the watershed divide between the Wappinger Creek Watershed and the Tenmile River Watershed, discharging water both east and west to the Wappinger Creek and Tenmile River, respectively."

  • Reviewed: pending
  • Comment: Not sure of the best wording for this. Could be "...drains into two watersheds," "...discharges into two drainage basins," "...is a rare bifurcation lake," etc. Reviewer's choice.

Created by Juliancolton (talk). Self-nominated at 20:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment In the hook, watershed needs disambiguating. I presume you intend the North American usage of watershed, namely "is divided between two drainage basins". Alternatively following European usage, it should read something like "lies on a drainage divide". Edwardx (talk) 23:42, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
  • And here I had no idea that "watershed" meant anything other than "drainage basin." See proposed alt hook with what seems like more universally precise wording. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:07, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Being British but with an American childhood does sometimes have its advantages. Edwardx (talk) 09:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Cecilia García Arocha

  • ... that Cecilia García Arocha is the first female rector of the Central University of Venezuela? Source: 1 "Cecilia Garcia Arocha has presided as the university’s first woman rector"
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: (4th nom, but have reviewed some)
  • Comment: I'm trying to improve the references on the page. Hopefully by the time this is reviewed.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 5 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 6[edit]

O clap your hands (Rutter)

  • ... that a reviewer came to like John Rutter's anthem O clap your hands better decades after he first found the jollity of its beginning "a bit relentless"? Source: [27]

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 13 September 2018 (UTC).

Mufti Nemat

  • ... that Afghan militant Mufti Nemat has claimed that he wants others to accept his ideology "with their hearts, not by force" despite having previously waged a violent insurgency and possibly committed numerous war crimes? Source: "At their peak, the ISIS fighters in northern Afghanistan numbered as many as 500 followers of Qari Hekmatullah, until he was killed in an American airstrike in April. Mr. Rahman and Mr. Nemat, who are brothers-in-law, then emerged as the leaders of the group. [...] 'We want other people to accept our ideas with their hearts, not by force,' Mr. Nemat said. 'There is no need to force people to accept us.' [...] Many of the Islamic State's crimes are well documented in their own Facebook and WhatsApp posts, with videos of them burning opponents alive, stoning people to death, training children as fighters, and shooting bound prisoners." (Source: Are ISIS Fighters Prisoners or Honored Guests of the Afghan Government?)

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 13 September 2018 (UTC).

The Hate U Give

  • ... that the shooting of Oscar Grant motivated Angie Thomas to write a short story that became the basis for her debut novel, The Hate U Give? (Source: "When Oscar Grant, an unarmed, black 22-year-old, was fatally shot on New Year’s Day 2009 by a white Oakland transit police officer, calls for justice swept throughout the country. Angie Thomas felt them all the way in Jackson, Miss. 'In my anger and frustration, I wrote a short story about a boy named Khalil who was a lot like Oscar and a girl named Starr who was a lot like me,' she said." Los Angeles Times)

Improved to Good Article status by Barkeep49 (talk) and Innisfree987 (talk). Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk) at 23:36, 7 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Image Just to note that an image of the book jacket illustrates the entry per fair use rules; I'm not sure how that (usage restrictions) figures into mainpage features, but if it's allowed, it could make for a nice image to accompany this DYK. If the reviewer or other readers can advise, that'd be great! Thanks. Innisfree987 (talk) 23:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Additional hooks Barkeep49 and I discussed more options for hooks and wording at Talk:The_Hate_U_Give#DYK_discussion so we can pull more from there potentially if these don't appeal. Innisfree987 (talk) 23:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 7[edit]

Selina Siggins

  • ... that in 1903, the 25-year-old daughter of an illiterate Irish labourer became the first woman to stand for the Australian House of Representatives?
    "[Siggins] was born on 12 May 1878 at Tambaroora Road, near Hill End, New South Wales, only child of Irish-born James Charters (d.1879), an elderly, illiterate labourer. [...] Anderson was the first woman to contest an election for the Australian House of Representatives, in December 1903, the first Federal election in which women were entitled to stand for parliament". Source: Australian Dictionary of Biography.

5x expanded by Ivar the Boneful (talk). Self-nominated at 14:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: not sure whether "first woman" or "25-year-old daughter" should be bolded. If possible I think this should run on 16 December, the 115th anniversary of the 1903 election. If it does, the blurb could be altered to say something like "115 years ago today...". Ivar the Boneful (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Bol Bol

Improved to Good Article status by Runningibis (talk). Self-nominated at 00:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC).

Wandersong

Created by PhilipTerryGraham (talk). Self-nominated at 01:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC).

Luitpoldpark

Created by Mr Ernie (talk) and Ritchie333 (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 21:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: why not the water-spitting statue, pictured? - There are many places in the area offering that view ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
As Jimbo is fond of saying, "you can edit this page!" (and add an ALT2 to that effect). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
sorry no extra time --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:49, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I would go for ALT1, because as Gerda Arendt mentions you can see the Alps from most of Munich on a clear day. I like how ALT1 ties the park in to a historic figure. I was also thinking maybe a hook like "that a distinctive feature of Luitpoldpark in Munich is the Luitpoldhügel, a 37-metre (121 ft) tall hill consisting of rubble piled up from World War II bombing attacks on the city." Major kudos to Ritchie333 for greatly expanding this article. It looks really great. Mr Ernie (talk) 13:42, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Black Orchid (comic book)

  • Comment: Feel free to suggest alt hooks

Created by TheJoebro64 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC).

Clarissa Chapman Armstrong

Source (pp 284-285): "In 1847 came a great change, by an urgent invitation from the Hawaiian Government to Mr. Armstrong to take the office of Minister of Public Instruction,..."I was myself," she writes, "obliged to give up the women's meeting in which I had worked for years with so much pleasure, but I had no difficulty in devising new plans for usefulness. I organized a weekly meeting for prayer and Bible reading among the wives of the chiefs, including the queen, who was well disposed to such endeavors, and I continued my Bible readings from house to house. Our increased income, adding comforts to our family life, did much for my health, and I could see that my departure from the mission had increased rather than lessened my ability to work."

  • Reviewed: Washington State Route 24
  • Comment: The queen is not named by name here but based on the date of the event this can only be Kalama.

Created by Penny Richards (talk) and KAVEBEAR (talk). Nominated by KAVEBEAR (talk) at 23:04, 7 September 2018 (UTC).

Großtarock

Tarot card of the type used to play Großtarock today
Tarot card of the type used to play Großtarock today
  • ... that Großtarock was a card game played with a 78-card Tarot pack that originated in Germany and spread to the Netherlands and Scandinavia, but has only survived in the Danish variant known as Tarok?
  • Hook reference: "The game of Grosstarock does survive in Denmark, where it is known simply as Tarok; this version of the game...", "[Großtarock] originated in Germany and spread to the Netherlands and Scandinavia..." and "Grosstarock is played with a 78-card Tarot pack..." Dummett, Michael (1980). Twelve Tarot Games. Duckworth, London. pp. 53/54.
  • Reviewed: Wiesbadener Knabenchor

Moved to mainspace by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 7 September 2018 (UTC).

Timeline of Cluj-Napoca

1617 engraving of Cluj/Kolozsvár/Klausenburg by Joris Hoefnagel.
1617 engraving of Cluj/Kolozsvár/Klausenburg by Joris Hoefnagel.
  • ... that throughout its long timeline, the city of Cluj-Napoca was part of many empires and kingdoms, including Roman Empire, Hungarian Kingdom, Habsburg Monarchy, Austria-Hungary and Kingdom of Romania ...? Source: "MacKendrick, Paul Lachlan (2000). The Dacian Stones Speak. Routledge Monographs in Classical Studies (illustrated, reprint ed.). Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press."; Source: "Lukács, József (2005). Povestea "oraşului-comoară": scurtă istorie a Clujului şi a monumentelor sale [The story of the "treasure-city": a short history of Cluj and its monuments] (in Romanian). Levente Várdai. Cluj-Napoca: Apostrof. ISBN 978-973-9279-74-1. "
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Codrinb (talk). Self-nominated at 20:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Not eligible. List articles must have at least 1,500 characters of readable prose in order to qualify for DYK. Catrìona (talk) 05:44, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg This appears to be only the nominator's fifth nomination, and given that the article itself is long (the problem is that the content is presented as a list while DYK's length requirement only applies to prose), this could still work as a hook. @Codrinb: I would suggest you expand the lede section to be a summary of the whole article, ensuring that it is at least 1,500 characters. Once this is done, this can become DYK eligible. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:00, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 8[edit]

Donte Ingram

Donte Ingram
Donte Ingram

Improved to Good Article status by Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Runningibis (talk) at 01:26, 13 September 2018 (UTC).

Sofía Gómez

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Where in the source is the birthdate? Source #1 does not give years as far as I can tell. There are a bunch of sources whose Spanish is above my language skills. Is deeperblue a reliable source? ALT1 is slightly more interesting but it's not entirely backed by the article. No copyvio or plagiarism that I can see. QPQ is OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:14, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Added a new source for date of birth (primary sources are acceptable for factual information like this). Also I corrected ALT1, as it was 2 days after, as per this source, which says "Just two days after Colombian Freediver Sofía Gómez Uribe set a new CMAS Freediving World record by diving 83m in the Constant Weight Bi-Fins discipline, she has furthered her grasp on the record by diving to 84m today." Joseph2302 (talk) 19:32, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Not sure if it is a reliable source, looks like it might be user submitted content. But it's also in the El Espectador article, in the paragrpah which starts "Atada a una línea de acero con un arnés". Joseph2302 (talk) 20:22, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Removed everything just sourced to Deeper Blue, and added different sources where I could find them. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:16, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
  • That source says she's a civil engineer, but I added a primary source for her education, which is permissible per WP:BLPSPS. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
  • SOurce #5 does not mention Trujilo or the Bolivarian Games. I don't think that "The record was beaten at the 2017 CMAS World Championships by Artnik and Ukrainian Nataliia Zharkova, both of whom dived 85 metres (279 ft)." is entirely supported either. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Added another source- the Bolivarian Games was in the sources that you told me to remove, which was why it temporarily became unsourced. And the 85m is clearly in the source. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 9[edit]

Maya Krishna Rao

Maya Krishna Rao in 2012
Maya Krishna Rao in 2012
  • ... that in 2015, Maya Krishna Rao (pictured) became the first artist to return the Sahitya Akademi Award? Source: "Maya Krishna Rao became the first Sangeet Natak Akademi awardee to renounce her prize" ([29])
  • Reviewed: To follow
  • Comment: I'm aware that it's been eight days since the page was created. Request the delegates to give this a special consideration. No issues otherwise.

Created by Vensatry (talk). Self-nominated at 19:23, 17 September 2018 (UTC).

Max Jessner

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 08:00, 17 September 2018 (UTC).

Galán

  • ... that life in a lake of Galán, one of the largest exposed calderas in the world, has to tolerate extreme environmental conditions?

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: This is good in every respect, ready to go. I didn't finish the review last night because I recognised the name of the article creator and wanted to look into that history; I also checked for copyvio in earlier versions before the recent expansion began.

However: I'm only an infrequent visitor to DYK, so may be off-track here, but I'd like to see more specific detail in the hook – the name of the lake, the flamingoes and microbes, the salt and arsenic all seem interesting to me. Of course, there's also the word-limit to be observed ... Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Is it possible to squeeze "Laguna Diamante" into the hook? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:08, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ...that life in Laguna Diamante lake of Galán, one of the largest exposed calderas in the world, has to tolerate extreme environmental conditions such as radiation and arsenic?
ALT hook proposal @Justlettersandnumbers: Also re the concerns about the article creator I did remove the old article text wholesale when rewriting it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Hey, Jo-Jo Eumerus, I don't want to lay down any law here – either hook is just fine with me ... but I do prefer the alt version. I tried "... conditions, with high levels of radiation and arsenic?" and still came out under 200 characters. Your call. Wl caldera? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:54, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
These two wiki links sound reasonable assuming that their articles are at least somewhat presentable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:00, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 10[edit]

Three Sisters (opera)

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:54, 17 September 2018 (UTC).

  • @Gerda Arendt: Here's my review. I also changed the ALT0 link so it linked directly to the article. epicgenius (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The article says that the three sisters are sung by countertenors, but doesn't say the composer wanted it. This isn't a really big deal, but I think the wording needs clarification.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg epicgenius (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, good catch. I found that section, and didn't change it when expanding. Will do, but please have patience, going to travel and not yet prepared. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:50, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Albugo candida

White rust on shepherd's purse
White rust on shepherd's purse
  • ... that white rust (pictured), a plant pathogen affecting the cabbage family, predisposes its host to develop downy mildew? Source: "The associations of downy mildew and white rust infection ... have long been observed." "A. candida predisposes the host tissues towards susceptibility to this pathogen."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 11[edit]

Wisconsin School (diplomatic history)

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self-nominated at 12:43, 16 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 12[edit]

Astreopora myriophthalma, Lithophaga simplex

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC).

Bill Hines (customizer)

Created/expanded by Trekphiler (talk). Self-nominated at 07:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on September 13[edit]

Theater Bremen

  • ... that Theater Bremen, a state theatre in Bremen, runs Moks, a division for young people? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @Gerda Arendt: A full review is to follow, but I'm afraid I have to reject this hook. It's boring (theatres having divisions for youths is not uncommon or quirky), and "Moks" is too obscure of a term to appeal to a broad audience. A new hook is needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

William Wright Abbot

Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 00:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC).

Jos Canale