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Hi there. Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for your note at Wikipedia:New user log.

I'm sure there are plenty of things you can contribute to here. You might want to check out List of classical music composers, List of musical topics, and Wikipedia:Requested articles/music. The last one, especially, has a lot of suggestions for articles that don't exist yet, but that someone would like to see.

Here are some links you might find useful:

You should also feel free to drop me a question on my talk page. I'll answer if I'm here.

Happy editing, Isomorphic 18:23, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Banned editor?[edit]

A recent edit to Talk:Rules of chess by "Wcc1851" resembles, at least to my eyes, an edit a few days ago to Talk:Chess by "indonesianguy", which you reverted; your edit summary was "banned editor".

I would be happy to revert this new edit, since it is incoherent, but I would be curious to know how to find out whether this was done by a "banned user". Thanks. Bruce leverett (talk) 00:47, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Yes, that's him. Ohh it's a long story -- this guy has been harassing us since 2005 -- one of his interests is chess, and he has some peculiar ideas, including the idea that a variation of the queenside castle is actually named after him. Antandrus (talk) 00:53, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
"That's crazy!" (Channeling Brian Fellow on YouTube.) ;) --IHTS (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for that deletion...[edit]

over on Wikibooks. I note, however, that the editor in question is not banned; Joesbread does not show as blocked, and so he could theoretically march in and start slanging again. Also it looks like there are remnants of that conversation left - you're quite welcome to delete the entire lot. And I am sorry for having fed the troll... Chazz (talk) 02:29, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Ah yes -- I put in a steward request to finish the job -- this guy has been harassing us for years and years. 2005, actually. And now he has a copycat (but this one isn't).
I need to get global rollback -- if only to reduce my temptation to tell him what I think. :/ Antandrus (talk) 02:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:23, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Possible banned user[edit]

Could you look at 2roki2 (talk · contribs)? Edit patterns suggest it could be a banned user. Thanks. Quale (talk) 04:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you -- yes it's him. Missed that one. Antandrus (talk) 04:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Could I ask you to also look at Rokiboksen (talk · contribs) and Alirockyy (talk · contribs)? Thanks again. Bruce leverett (talk) 21:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Ah yes -- absolutely, that's him. Thank you @Sro23: for saving me the trouble. Antandrus (talk) 22:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
And Fightinor (talk · contribs). Thanks. Bruce leverett (talk) 00:42, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. FYI I add them to this, starting a new section when necessary. Antandrus (talk) 00:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
And Ridedaboat (talk · contribs) Quale (talk) 05:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
@Quale: I have added that account Nigos (t@lk Contribs) 09:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks all -- always appreciate help with this. Antandrus (talk) 13:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Another one: Bataabata (talk · contribs) Quale (talk) 04:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Oxnard Oil Field[edit]

You started a knowledgeable article about the Oxnard Oil Field and other similar fields in the area. @Fettlemap: identified Anterra and gave some deadline dates that appear to have been ignored.

Not mentioned is what they are apparently doing on the west side of Oxnard, along Mandalay State Beach north to McGrath State Beach. Is it a new oil field? An expansion to go after tar sands in a fracking operation?

I think there is an article there, but the two of you are far more qualified to know where to research and write that up. This is well beyond my expertise. Trackinfo (talk) 05:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Greetings @Trackinfo: -- that's the West Montalvo Oil Field out there. I haven't followed for a few years. Used to be Venoco, and there were some other players. I know offhand there were some very deep angle wells into the offshore pools. Wasn't aware of tar sands at WMOF but I know there are a lot at the Oxnard field; there was an article on that issue specifically by a government agency (DOGGR?) but I'd have to go digging. So to speak. :) Antandrus (talk) 14:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


user:Rokirasturac is abusing her talkpage. CLCStudent (talk) 19:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

They did the same thing on Commons. I’m wondering why their account hasn’t been locked yet. Nigos (t@lk Contribs) 22:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Yeesh. Looks like Tegel has now done it. Antandrus (talk) 22:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Your Userpage in the de.wikipedia[edit]

Hi Antandrus, someone is asking me to delete your Userpage in the de.wikipedia (see [1]). Are you this -- Dandelo (talk) 16:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

No, that's Winkinger or whatever he's called -- thanks for fixing my user pages :) Antandrus (talk) 17:13, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


Hello. It seems likely, given the similar username and editing patterns, that User:Szymborskawislawa is the same person as User:Wislawaszymborska which you earlier blocked. --LukeSurl t c 11:28, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Reported them as being one of the socks of Wikinger. Nigos (talk Contribs) 11:46, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both. Yes, we report them at the Steward requests at Meta, and I'll block them locally. Antandrus (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Which LTA?[edit]

Hi! Do we know which LTA these blocks[3][[4] involved? --Guy Macon (talk) 00:42, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Guy Macon: -- yes, it's the "George Reeves Person" (Jimbo deleted his LTA page in 2006 - let me know if you'd like a link). Here is his global ban. Antandrus (talk) 00:48, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


The copyright violations were in old revisions. You defaced the current, copyright-violation-free version with a hideous tag, that applied to nothing a passing reader would actually see. That's the problem. That's called "copyright paranoia". False. Every word of what you said is false. The copyrighted text was in current revisions of over two dozen articles. I followed procedure to flag, remove, and report flagrant copyright violations. If passers-by had seen the articles before I flagged them, they would've seen current, active copyright-infringing text. My actions saved the readers from that. I defaced nothing. Please do not personally blame me for following procedure. Yoninah acted in good faith when she copied the translated text from Chabad. I get that. But just because she was not aware of the copyright implications does not lay the blame at my feet for attempting to clean up after a bad decision. Elizium23 (talk) 20:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Actually, ELizium, every word is true, of the article under discussion. And those hideous top-of-article tags are a defacement to anyone with eyes to see. Have a nice day, Antandrus (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
False. Psalm 100 in its live text had an active copyright infringement visible. I followed procedure. Your description as "defacement" is a personal attack. Elizium23 (talk) 20:13, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
OK dude, if you're gonna be that way, you can follow up at the ANI thread and defend your accusations. Elizium23 (talk) 20:17, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Elizium, I have neither time for, nor interest in, copyright fundamentalism. Removing every instance of copying-and-pasting from old revisions in the database is a waste of time and resources. If you think otherwise, then fine, do it yourself. Old revisions hurt no one. If it’s child porn, ok, remove it. A few verses of psalm text under copyright protection, but invisible to a reader? Give me a break. This is the clearest example of copyright paranoia I have seen in recent years. You have to understand which issues are actually important enough to campaign about, and which are not, and this one is not. Antandrus (talk) 20:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
@Diannaa: seems to think it is worthwhile. And I feel like your personal attacks are rather unbecoming of an administrator. You regard me as a common vandal. What is wrong with you? Elizium23 (talk) 20:34, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Once more, with feeling: before I got to the articles, the copyrighted text was live, visible, and active. I removed the text (from five out of over 24 articles) in an act that you refer to as vandalism. What is wrong with this picture? Elizium23 (talk) 20:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
What are you smoking? I never said that. Antandrus (talk) 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
You repeated yourself over and over accusing me of vandalism:
  1. [5] You defaced the current, copyright-violation-free version with a hideous tag
  2. [6] those hideous top-of-article tags are a defacement to anyone with eyes to see
  3. [7] I'm only sorry I did not remove the defacing tag sooner.
You are an administrator, and you profess having been here longer than I have, so you should be well aware of what vandalism and personal attacks are, and what they are not, no? Elizium23 (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Have you ever experienced a real personal attack, Elizium? They're not uncommon on Wikipedia. This was not one.
I think it's high time you let this drop. I'm not interested. You've got your aggression and defensiveness set just a bit high, don't you think? twist the knob a bit to the left. People disagree on stuff here. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 20:50, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
The services of MONGO are available to provide an excellent example of a personal attack. Antandrus is probably the polar opposite of MONGO as far as manners and civility are involved!--MONGO (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)