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Edit to Shivaji article


Please look the version after my edits. Would you let me know whether I removed content or added!. I have, in fact, added more clarification around his birth date with references.

I have not intended to remove absolutely anything else. I'll look again and if I unintentionally removed anything I will correct it.

P.S. On checking the version comparison again - I do see some content removal which I absolutely never touched! I have now fixed the content removal issue. Frankly, I have no idea how it got removed. A mystery to me!

Thank you and I hope this resolves the issue.

Before edit: The Government of Maharashtra accepts 19 February 1630 as his birthdate; other suggested dates include 6 April 1627 or other dates near this day.[4][5]

After edit: Based on multiple committees of historians and experts, the Government of Maharashtra accepts 19 February 1630 (Julian) as his birthdate. This date matches those of contemporary records [4][5][6]. Other suggested dates include 6 April 1627 or dates near this day.[7][8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkarja (talkcontribs) 05:46 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for double-checking. It was indeed the content removal that all the other editors objected to and since you fixed that, I have no issues with your sourced additions. --bonadea contributions talk 06:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Catie Munnings page

Hi - I’m Catie’s mum. You’ve reversed some info that was put on caties page. Please can you take that reversal off; as when you google caties name it now comes up with her being a television actor - which she’s not. She’s a professional Rally Driver! We are trying to change her title using the google search algorithm as suggested by the admin at Wikipedia. Your help would be appreciated as this incorrect information is not great for catie whilst she’s trying to secure her rally budget for next year. Thank you Tracey Munnings RallyMum1 (talk) 21:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi - it’s the changes that we’ve made that need to stay up there but you have reversed it. Those things need removing as it’s reflecting incorrect information on google. Please put your corrections back up. Thank you RallyMum1 (talk) 21:34, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@RallyMum1: as other people have pointed out, what happens when you enter somebody's name in Google is outside Wikipedia's power, and Google algorithms are not a reason to remove information from Wikipedia. You'll need to contact Google if you have issues with how they present the info. The Wikipedia article about Munnings is almost entirely focused on her rally driving, with one small section about her television programme, and there is no reason to remove that. The edits here removed well-sourced information about the TV programme, and they also added non-neutral text which is unfortunately not appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Note that Wikipedia articles are not owned or controlled by their subjects (or by anybody else) so it is not really "Catie Munnings' page" but "an article about Catie Munnings", and people who are directly connected to the subject of an article should not edit the article about them. More info here. Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 21:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your lengthy reply. However, I am not in the least interested in editing anything on Wikipedia. What I am trying to do is correct my daughters title page from television actor to British Rally Driver. She was previously known in Wikipedia google searches as British Rally Driver - only since Wikipedia have added her tv show the google search now calls her television actor which is incorrect. So I don’t care you edits it - I just want the correct information out there. I’ve contacted google and admin at Wikipedia and am astonished at how unhelpful people are being!! Perhaps if someone updates her rallying information (which hasn’t been done since Azores) and since then she has completed the entire ERC Championship, it may trigger the google algorithm to pick up the rally driving! Thank you for your help with this Tracey Munnings RallyMum1 (talk) 21:54, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@RallyMum1: I'm sorry you have experienced people as unhelpful. The fact remains however that what you see in Google is not controlled in any way by Wikipedia. In fact the phrase "Television actor" that shows up in the Google search does not appear anywhere in the Wikipedia article! I thought maybe it came from Wikidata but that also doesn't seem to be the case. I hope you will be able to report to Google successfully, because they are the only people who can assist you with this. As an aside, about the "edit" terminology - changing, adding, or removing anything on any Wikipedia page is the same as "editing" it, and as soon as you do that, you are an editor. I hope that makes things a little more clear. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 08:12, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
If the google search is nothing to do with Wikipedia can you please explain how she was initially known as British rally driver; then when the first Wikipedia edit was made she was known as British television presenter; after the second edit she was known as Television show host; after the third she was known as british presenter and now a television actor!! I think it has everything to do with Wikipedia and the people who edited the articles ...... Wikipedia are being unhelpful in correcting the error caused by editing the page about catie. Extremely frustrating
Tracey Munnings RallyMum1 (talk) 08:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
No, I have no idea why Google has changed their text on their own website. This is because I know nothing about how Google works or where they get their information. I am a volunteer editor at Wikipedia, which is completely separate from Google. Some of the info they display in their information boxes is clearly taken from Wikipedia, but some of it equally clearly isn't. Wikipedia does not control that. And text that appears nowhere in the Wikipedia article cannot possibly come from here. I understand your frustration, but Wikipedia editors are not able to help you with issues on a different website. --bonadea contributions talk 08:35, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Todd Howard

I don't see why being a real person disqualifies him from being into this category. Going into the category, I see like five or six real people who are in the internet memes category, so I figured it was fine. Promestein (talk) 06:47, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Take it to the article's talk page if you disagree. --bonadea contributions talk 06:48, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Response to your note on my Talk Page

I placed the mesaage on the Talk Page (the one that you removed) just moments after NorthBySouthBaranof sent me his message, but certainly before I had read his message. I saw that my Talk Page edit was not there, and thought that I must have messed up in trying to post it, so I wrote another one. I certainly did not write anything on any BLP Talk Page after reading NorthBySouthBaranof's message to me. Vcuttolo (talk) 19:56, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

why clear my talk

hello i know i cleared talk before but i think it was kind of uncalled for and vandalism that you cleared it. if there is a way to revert it plz let me Know thanks! hello im handatoe come with me (talk) 12:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Sup Bonadea? @Handatoe: Your talk page was cleared by other people. Bonadea reverted an edit on your user page. This was because the editor who had made the original edit was both a) directly violating a closely followed behavioural guideline, and b) a sockpuppet whose edits can—and usually should—be reverted on sight, almost wherever they are. Hope this helps. ——SerialNumber54129 12:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
@Handatoe: I have never edited your talk page, as you can see from its history. I did revert some disruptive editing to your user page, here. --bonadea contributions talk 12:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

ok thanks didnt know hello im handatoe come with me (talk) 22:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Not paid advocates

Hello there,

I am writing to let you know I am not a paid advocates. I am a staff of Bliss Media and would like to make updates on Wei Han, Bliss Media CEO's profile and also company profile. Please be aware I am not what you called Black Hat SEO.

Shirley ac (talk) 09:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Being an employee equals being a paid advocate - but it does not imply that you are automatically black-hat SEO. Thank you for disclosing your paid relationship with the subjects. More info on your user talk page. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 10:50, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

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Indeffed again

A little something for your next coffee break

I've indeffed O again, and am rather red in the face for creating more work for especially you with that AGF unblock I made. As if you don't have enough on your plate. Sigh. Have a tastier kind of plate! And thank you for your inexhaustible patience. Bishonen | talk 15:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC).

Hey Bishonen, thanks for the heads-up and the amazing assortment of goodies, but most of all for your kind words! I admit I was reaching the end of my patience, though. Nothing that a few pastries won't set right. --bonadea contributions talk 17:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Ron Kitchens Conflict of interest and Speedy Deletion

Hi Bonadea,

Thank you for your note concerning the Ron Kitchens Wikipedia article. I am hoping to discuss your recommendation for a speedy deletion so as to incorporate any edits you may have. The page is not meant to be promotional, simply informative as Ron Kitchens is an author and speaker, therefore I believe, it would be beneficial to have his page included on Wikipedia. Edits that you have to accomplish this goal would be greatly appreciated.

The nature of the relationship that I have with Ron Kitchens is that we work for the same company, however, he is not paying me to create the page. I will disclose that we work for the same organization wherever you think will be most beneficial for users.

I appreciate any feedback!

Thanks SMFTDunham (talk) 13:33, 27 November 2018 (UTC) SMFTDunham

@SMFTDunham: as the article has been deleted I'm afraid I would be unable to offer any input. It may not have been intended as promotion, but it did in fact contain promotional language, as well as a large number of external links. When you have a conflict of interest such as yours, it is always better not to create or edit articles directly; instead, use the Articles for Creation process. Information about how to disclose a conflict of interest is found here. In any case, any article needs to show that the subject is notable according to Wikipedia's definition of notability, and from what I remember of the article, there was nothing there to suggest that he does meet those criteria. (That is something he has in common with almost every other person in the world, of course ;-) ) Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


Why have you deleted a reference of Times of India? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyofjawad (talkcontribs) 14:41, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Boyofjawad: in this edit I removed a source that had been added twice. I could have removed one copy of the source, leaving the other one, but since the references had been inserted at the top of the article with no indication of what they were, or what they were supposed to source, I wasn't quite comfortable with leaving it there. Furthermore, it did not actually say anything about the person, since it's a press release about the TV show she is in. I see that you have added it again in the article text and I am not going to remove it, but you should be aware that as a self published source (press release) it does nothing to support the person's notability. (As an aside, IMDb should never be used as a reference in a Wikipedia article - it is possible to add the {{IMDb name}} template, modified so it leads to the right IMDb page, to an external links section.) --bonadea contributions talk 14:51, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Can you please update imdb name as i am not getting how to do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyofjawad (talkcontribs) 15:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

OK, no problem. I've done it now, but just so you know: th URL for an IMDb actor page looks like this: where "xxxxxx" is a number. In the template {{imdb name}} you add that number, like this: {{imdb name|id=xxxxxx}}. The "nm" part of the number in the url should not be included. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much bonadea and one more thing i want to ask that which are other accounts can be added like iMDb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

New Skylab controversy RfC proposal

Hi! I have drafted another RfC at Talk:Skylab_controversy#New_RfC_proposal. Please comment on how best to get appropriate input from the Wikipedia editor community. -- ke4roh (talk) 14:44, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for reverting that unnecessary message from my talk page. It's been going on since end of November and I'm getting sick and tired that user coming back all the time. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 08:32, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

My pleasure. Makes you wonder why people keep doing that kind of thing - surely there are more useful and/or fun pastimes than childish harassment of random strangers online? There's nowt so strange as folk, I guess. :-) --bonadea contributions talk 10:03, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks sir for lifting my spirits up It is from you people I m going to learn I m much abashed for the thing I did Can you please forgive me ArashdeepKaur (talk) 09:25, 16 December 2018 (UTC)


you are right I confuse about the link, sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexartu (talkcontribs) 14:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Editing Babu Gogineni Page.


This is AKhram. I have done few changes to Babu Gogineni profile. You have rolled back those changes. I am a direct friend of Babu Gogineni and editing his own profile with his full permission and the context which he provided me to do. There is no misleading content updated there if you can read the complete content. Akhramshaik (talk) 08:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Responding on your talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 08:16, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


Could you guide me and suggest me how to continue to edit the context without any conflicts. He is a public profile person and growing popular now. We could see many people complaining lack of information when they look Wikipedia. so I am taking this initiation to update this information so that it would be available to everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhramshaik (talkcontribs) 08:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@Akhramshaik: If you have specific pieces of information that are missing from the article, please post them to Talk:Babu Gogineni. Put the code {{request edit}} in a new section on the page, and under that, explain the changes you want to make. However, you should be aware of the fact that you can't use your personal knowledge or text you get straight from Gogineni - everything needs a reliable independent source. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 08:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Bonadea,
As advised by you. I have created request to edit on Talk page. There is no misleading content on the page. Do review the changes and approve so that i can move further. I would further provide more reference links supporting the content from News portals and multiple official and popular media sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhramshaik (talkcontribs) 12:30, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
@Akhramshaik: Well, there is a bit of a problem: What you did was adding a whole long stretch of text to the article talk page; as far as I can tell it is the same text that you added to the article, which was removed because it is inappropriately promotional and does not refer to any sources. It has unexplained reference markers such as "[1]" and "[2]" - those are supposed to be actual sources that support the information! I understand that it is difficult to edit Wikipedia, and especially things like adding references can be tricky because it involves special code. But all the same, please try to follow the advice I gave above: add the code {{request edit}} to a new section on the page, and below that code, explain the changes you want to make. Don't add a lot of text without any explanation. And please focus on smaller changes - if you think the entire article needs to be rewritten, explain that and explain why, and don't forget to provide your sources. Remember that there is no deadline here, and all Wikipedia editors are volunteers - we do this in our spare time. The code {{request edit}} will make the talk page show up in a list of edit requests, and so it will attract the attention of other editors, but if a few weeks pass and nobody comments on the article talk page, you could ask at a noticeboard such as the Tea house. If there are glaring errors in terms of the information presented, you can post to the noticeboard for biographies of living people and explain briefly what the issue is. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 13:23, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
(Just for the record, I have not removed anything from your edit to Talk:Babu Gogineni, but I put the paragraphs of text into a collapsable box, so it's possible to view it but it doesn't clutter up the page.) --bonadea contributions talk 13:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

About Maroon 5

Your recent deletion of the whole section on the Maroon 5 page is really a wise decision and i appreciate it. But that was not the real version of the content. That was the result of a recent revision by FlightTime which reversed back all my corrections and re-established that poor version. I have a newer version of that data with a suitable title. So im going to re-add that section as many in talk page of Maroon 5 supported that stuff and said this enhanced the material with updated content. Wish you a very nice day.HardSunBadMoon (talk) 12:16, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@HardSunBadMoon: Please don't - please discuss it on the article's talk page first and get consensus. I had seen your version (don't call it the "real version", it was simply your phrasing) which you added here and which contained language errors, instances of unclear language, unencyclopedic wording, and the same overlong quote. You said that many in talk page of Maroon 5 supported that stuff and said this enhanced the material with updated content - could you please provide some diffs of that, since no such support is in fact visible on the talk page? --bonadea contributions talk 12:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
The content which i added just now was the updated version of the section you saw earlier and it had no mistakes, was a reliably sourced content which only added more meaning to the page about the band's dynamic genre and clarified their interests simultaneously stating a controversy as well. Bowling is life and Abelmoschus Esculentus supported the matter because they both understood that the section proposed two things in such short which only enhances the quality of article . ABELMOSHCUS reviews articles and so he has the most knowledge about all of this in all of us. And he himself added it when two unauthorized editors were removing it. Thus, i want to have your permission to re-add my content. Yours Sincerly HardSunBadMoon (talk) 12:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey I am not a NPR and do not review articles (although I seldom review AfC submissions). Bonadea is right, you should discuss first. Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 12:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
it had no mistakes The version you added most recently was identical to the one I linked to, except that you changed one progressive tense verb form to a simple form (arguably an improvement) but the other issues I mentioned were still there - ungrammatical constructions such as "Following this, the band received huge criticism from rock fans around the world", unidiomatic constructions such as "Regardless of all this, the band enjoyed its commercial success in 2018 and continued its work" - and both those assertions were unsourced! Having an entire "controversy" section built around one single very recent quote, with unsubstantiated assertions of criticism, is really over the top for a GA classed article. In any case, you have to discuss this on the article's talk page and get consensus there. You still haven't provided any diffs for where people (allegedly) agreed with your additions. --bonadea contributions talk 12:59, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Leave it brother. I barely get time to do all this. What i just try to as a wikipedian is to add updated content cited with reliable source and try to add a conclusion based on that incident so that readers don't need to stress their minds up. Wikipedia calls that helpful conclusion a self-made research. Anyways, HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE brother. Hope you progress towards your aim.

HardSunBadMoon (talk) 14:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

But we can't add our own conclusions in Wikipdia, and what you refer to as "self-made research" is specifically prohibited. Please take a moment to read this. Wikipedia is also not a news service and editors should not try to capture minor current events as they happen. There is no deadline, and if something notable happens and is discussed in multiple reliable sources, it can be added to the article without any commentary or original research. Happy new year back at you! :-) --bonadea contributions talk 19:57, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for [1]. Could you add a url or page number? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:35, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Bonadea,

Reviewer of the Year
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This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.

Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.

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As Good as I Once Was

i disagree with what you said about my edit. i want a neutral third party — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 07:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

You have bot reacted to any of the comments, explanations and warnings put to your talk page but edit warred to keep the promotional trivia in. By all means ask other uninvolved editors, but do not add the content back unless and until you have a clear consensus in favour of adding it. --bonadea contributions talk 08:14, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

About the changes to Sambhaji page

hi i am clsasmit.

I had lately made changes to the wiki page of Sambhaji, which had been removed by you due to no cited resources. I don't have any sources , but in reality i am myself a descendent from the royal family and i felt that what was written by someone I don't know was actually not right. It wasn't right for people to know something wrong. So bonadea please understand.

i am not so good at this.But this is history and shouldn't go wrong. I am an Indian, Jai Hind.

regards, clsasmit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clsasmit (talkcontribs) 15:53, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Clsasmit: thank you for your message. There were two main reasons why your edit here was reverted: for one thing, as you saw on your talk page, there were no reliable sources supporting the edit. The text also (partly) contradicted the sources that are in the article. We can never use our own knowledge as a basis for what we write in Wikipedia (unless it's a matter of extremely general knowledge), I'm afraid. Please see this page for more information. The second reason, which I also mentioned on your talk page, was that you included an editorial comment of a kind that is never appropriate in a Wikipedia article. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 16:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Edit to Wrench Solutions

Am not a paid editor, Please suggest me the solution for the approval of the company "wrench Solutions" .Am actually from the same place where this company is from,so i thought of doing this.Sorry for my language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhilinraju (talkcontribs) 09:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Dhilinraju: the company Wrench Solutions does not show any signs of being notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Unfortunately, articles about the company have been created so many times that the title Wrench Solutions has had to be protected against recreation. --bonadea contributions talk 10:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Bonadea according to your view is there any chance for this company to approve in wiki now?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhilinraju (talkcontribs) 10:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
No, like I said above and as Daiyusha explained on your user talk page, there isn't. It's not "my view", it's a matter of not coming close to meeting Wikipedia's notability requirements. --bonadea contributions talk 10:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

Christmas tableau.jpg Happy Christmas!
Hello Bonadea,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that

Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"

My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 08:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, M! Very much appreciated. What an excellent story. That's the kind of aunt I aspire to be. All the best to you and yours, too! --bonadea contributions talk 09:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
You are most welcome B. Your kind words are much appreciated! MarnetteD|Talk 09:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Why did you revert all the edits to Demonetization page?

What made you revert the edits on that page? Half of that page is pure garbage based incorrect factual analysis that doesn't even present the whole picture. For example, Refer the following text, "Prominent businessmen stated after the announcement of demonetization that they had received prior warning of the move, allowing them to convert their money into smaller denominations" It refers to an article titled, "Before PM’s Announcement, Rumours of Demonetisation Abounded"

The statement sounds like an assertion, a POV that is incorrectly based on an article that is rumour and not fact driven.

What kind of vandal fighting is this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashank5988 (talkcontribs) 16:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

I reverted the edits because they added personal opinion, original research, editorialising comments, and assertions not supported by any sources. --bonadea contributions talk 18:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 31

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Books & Bytes
Issue 31, October – Novemeber 2018

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Happy Holidays

Snow Covered Trees Starry Night (166032201).jpeg Best wishes for this holiday season! Thank you for your Wiki contributions in 2018. May 2019 be prosperous and joyful. --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:16, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Noël ~ καλά Χριστούγεννα ~ З Калядамі ~ חנוכה שמח ~ Gott nytt år!

Thanks for keeping an eye....

...on the HardSunBadMoon sockpuppet inquiry. Disturbing that today there is editing as an IP attempting to disappear evidence of past Talk contributions. David notMD (talk) 15:30, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

List of churches in Sweden

Hi! I also voted to keep and clean up this list. I have started going through the churches. The first couple that I've done, I've found an article on What I'm planning on doing is wikilinking those that do have an article on as well as adding where they are (I would dearly love to add Wikimedia Commons photos and when the church was founded, but that would just make the references as long as the list. There is also an excellent reference on Swedish churches that is published in collaboration with the Church of Sweden. Aurornisxui (talk) 23:59, 24 December 2018 (UTC)



I am disappointed that the report has been removed without due consideration, while still retaining Madrenergic's mirror report. The dispute Madrenergic began arose from his dispute of the word "largest," to which the Oxford English Dictionary definition did not match his. The edits to the page were constructive and an attempt to preserve the integrity of the page, which Madrenergic has reverted in favor of subjective content. I am happy to discuss it and determine the validity of Madrenergic's argument in the article's talk page, however so far the user has failed to backup his assertions with evidence. My only objective is for an accurate and consistent Wikipedia to ensure its use by so many dedicated students, teachers, and more, is preserved. (talk) 22:13, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Editing of Arun Bhaduri

Hello.Recently I've re edited the Biography of Indian Vocalist Arun Bhaduri. As I knew Him personally so i've added his life,career of music. But you cleared it. why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srgmpdn7notes (talkcontribs) 16:58, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Replied on the user's talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 09:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

There was indeed a valid reason

Something being well-sourced does not make it an appropriate subdivision in its length and content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok why do you keep removing that

? Midwestman1986 (talk) 20:35, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

As you know, it is promotional and not informational. Since other editors have agreed on this and removed the text, it is (as you also know) up to you to discuss it on the talk page of the article (not here where nobody will see the discussion) and try to get a consensus in favour of adding the text. Did you have a chance to fix the promotional wording in the other Kansas article we discussed, btw? --bonadea contributions talk 20:51, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Be advised that Midwestman1986 along with a dozen or so associated accounts have been blocked indefinitely for sock-puppetry and nonconstructive editing. Grey Wanderer (talk) 23:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC)


Why you keep revert my edit on princess which does not contain any false information nor copyright violation? Gogo8611bar (talk) 20:26, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

It is a copyright violation. See the info on your talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 20:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Adding Facebook Profile

hey bonadea,

can you tell me how to add fb profile to an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyofjawad (talkcontribs) 12:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Continuing editing ...

Hi Bonadea, Hope you are doing well. Back in Sept 2018 you had asked me some questions on my talk page to which I had responded. Since you had asked me to stop making any further edits, I have not been making any. However, having responded to your query and then later asking couple of times to you on your talk page, and not getting any response from your side, I am assuming that you are satisfied with my response. This is to inform you that I will be starting to make edits. Thanks for your guidance. Vishaalgautam (talk) 09:47, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. I did not ask you to stop making edits, only to declare whether you had a financial interest in the topics you were editong (specifically "heartfulness meditation".) Since you declared that you were not paid to make the edits, there is nothing to prevent you from editing, provided that you do not edit against consensus, promote anything, or violate Wikipedia policies in any other way. Since you do have a conflict of interest as declared on your user page you should not edit any articles about heartfulness meditation directly, however. I'm not sure why I did not respond in September, and I apologise for that. -bonadea contributions talk 10:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt response, no issues about missing to respond in Sept. One clarification needed - reading upon WP:COI, while I understand about not editing any article directly where there is a COI and use the talk page to propose changes, what about making small edits like making corrections or adding a reliable reference to improve the article. Is that also not permitted, even if it's clearly not promotional in nature? Many times it's the subject matter experts who would have the correct info, hence the question. What would be the right way for making such minor corrections? Vishaalgautam (talk) 01:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

TomWatkins sock

Could we add "Davecoperjones" to the investigation of "Jenny0987Walsh", please? Richard3120 (talk) 13:30, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

hello why is my own userpage set up for speedy deletion?

i am wondering why my own userpage is set up for deletion? could you pls explaine why to me thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redordercaveman (talkcontribs) 20:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

See your user talk page for an explanation. (User pages are not "our own" in the sense that we can write anything there - again, more info on your talk page.) --bonadea contributions talk 20:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about paid contributions- question

I created a new user page with my username and put the paid by text inside, did I do it right to show that I was hired to help? I never meant to break the TOS in that regard and I apologize- Wikipedia was very confusing for me starting out, and I created the page as a favor for a friend. Afterwords she said "I believe in paying people for their work" and gave me some money, so I guess I do fall under a paid user? In any case, most of the work I did is removed from the page and I've been asked to not edit any further, so I'd like to know the legal way to go about this to increase the length and show what she has been involved in, while removing anything that sounds promotional. I'd love to get some help, is there a forum I can ask users to add for me if I'm unable to edit myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatrimBloodyCauthon (talkcontribs) 20:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @MatrimBloodyCauthon: and thanks for your message. Wikipedia can definitely be a bit confusing with all its regulations and guidelines! I can't see in your contributions that you have created an user page - you should go to User:MatrimBloodyCauthon and add the "paid by" template there. As for how to proceed, the place for you to suggest changes and additions to the article is Talk:Georgia_van_Cuylenburg. However, right now there is a discussion here about whether the article should be kept at all. You are welcome to participate there, but first please read the information here about how to participate. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 21:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
(Oh, and regarding your user name - that's a blast from the past. I was a WoT fan for a while in the 1990s, but I must admit I never read past the first six books or so. Mat was definitely a favourite character though :-) ) --bonadea contributions talk 21:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

User:MatrimBloodyCauthon Thank you! I added a section on the talk page and argued my case. I'm feeling extremely disheartened as she's such a lovely person and I just wanted to help, and it feels like I just got her Wikipedia deleted by not understanding the rules. I would've helped her out for free, but she insisted on paying me and I guess that was a big no. I love WoT too, happy that username was available :) edit: Sorry didn't mean to be dramatic thanks for doing your job well :) MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatrimBloodyCauthon (talkcontribs) 21:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Edit: I can't figure out how to add the template for paid contributor on my page :( No templates are loading and when I type paid contributor nothing comes up MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatrimBloodyCauthon (talkcontribs) 21:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @MatrimBloodyCauthon: I fixed it for you. It displays properly now. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:42, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

User:MatrimBloodyCauthon Thank you!! I hope I formatted this reply correctly. I appreciate the assistance. MatrimBloodyCauthon (talk) 22:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


why did you deleted her birth date? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyofjawad (talkcontribs) 13:08, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


Sorry Queen70 (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

draft help

hello, could you please assist me regarding the draft which i created recently Draft:Meri Pehli Mohabbat is the theme track of India's Raw Star the single by Darshan Raval. AR.Dmg (talk) 09:51, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

McCurdy’s Armor™ listed at Redirects for discussion


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect McCurdy’s Armor™. Since you had some involvement with the McCurdy’s Armor™ redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:41, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

What should I do?

There's only a Korean web page. Should we leave it false information?

Wikipedia is so irrational. Leave it as a fake birthday. 에휴 등신들 Roiejwfwertwe (talk) 09:16, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Roiejwfwertwe: No, there is no "false" information, it's just a birth date that follows the Western Gregorian calendar rather than the Korean calendar. Both dates are equally "true". We can't use different systems for information about years and dates without telling our readers what kind of date it is, and there is a general agreement on Wikipedia that the Gregorian date should be used as a default. What you need to do is to follow Wikipedia's manual of style, as discussed on the article talk page, and leave the Gregorian date in - it would be fine to add a Korean date as well, with a source and an explanation of which calendar it is. What is not okay is to edit war, and the only reason you got a warning was because you kept reverting without first discussing your reverts. But now you are using the article talk page for the discussion, so all is well. If nobody comes to the talk page to disagree with the changes you propose it's usually fine to add them in a day or so. --bonadea contributions talk 11:33, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi, I got a lot of messages from you, but I am a bit confused. I am not an official of Okawa. Please do not get me wrong. It was the first time that I reacted excessively to writing. Well, this is also a culture shock. Lol

By the way, what I used was the quotation origin of the original article. Is not this a reliable source of information? Sorunikusu (talk) 15:41, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

What Okawa says about himself, or what his publishing machine says about him, is absolutely not a reliable source for that kind of claim. --bonadea contributions talk 15:46, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Anyway I'm glad that your misunderstanding could be solved. For example, how about such an article? Article of a newspaper company. About the movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorunikusu (talkcontribs) 16:06, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Fredrikson stallard

I almost never disagree with you, but I think that this article is sufficiently notable that it is worthwhile removing the promotionalism, especially because it'll be so easy to do. DGG ( talk ) 17:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Request for comment List of churches in Sweden

Hello1 YOu made some good observations in the AfD for this list. I would appreciate some ideas for making the list better. Aurornisxui (talk) 17:47, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Cut Copy paste

How can I cut copy paste information on Wikipedia Muhammad Ahmad's Wiki World (talk) 16:29, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Muhammad Ahmad&'s Wiki World: I am not quite sure what you mean by your question; I see that you asked the same thing over at the Tea house, here, and had one response there. If that was not what you were asking about, please continue the discussion there. It is better not to split a discussion into several places. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 17:35, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Any idea who Thefederationrestore is?

Obviously only here to revert you, so I've indeffed him. Doug Weller talk 11:29, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Oh. I've just looked at Straydog. Is there any chance we aren't looking at a sock? Doug Weller talk 11:37, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Cheers, Doug Weller - yes, there's been a few accounts lately that were created only to revert random edits I'd made: 大海啊大海, Red People2, Minerundo, NamedaHamzai... I think the sockmaster is probably Alexson 97 / DandongVenis, since a couple of the accounts have been CU-blocked as socks of them. Nsmutte has resurfaced recently, but it's not really his MO. Thanks for blocking this one! --bonadea contributions talk 11:47, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
So not Straydog but someone else watching you revert him? Doug Weller talk 11:49, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
  • I have revoked TPA after an obviously dishonest unblock request. Which troll this is (Nsmutte, whoever) doesn't really matter. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

The disruption

If you ever want this talk page temporarily protected due to abuse, just let me know. I have a talk subpage myself for such times as my talk is protected, where well-meaning IPs can still post (but trolls have less incentive to as it doesn't get them any attention). Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:07, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

You are biased(Regarding Anu Malik)

When user:Ravensfire removed the sourced content related to the allegation(on 18 February 2019, 15:12 IST), you were nowhere to be seen. Why did you not revert that? Don't act like a big boss. Warning me of getting blocked will not help, especially with your partial behaviour. I can have certainly followed all wikipedia's policy. And i have also discussed the same issue on the article's talk page. Seems like you are adamant and don't want to listen at all! nkupad User talk:Nkupad —Preceding undated comment added 16:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Ravensfire had discussed their edit on the talk page and there was no opposition against it. That's the difference. They edited per consensus, you edited against it. --bonadea contributions talk 16:21, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Anu Malik

we need to understand that the wiki user nkupad has balanced the allegation part of article of Anu Malik. He has tried to mention needed facts which i personally believe they don't undermine the allegation anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethicaleditor1234 (talkcontribs) 17:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ethicaleditor1234: use the existing discussion on the article talk page, not here. Ravensfire (talk) 17:40, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for my activities

I assure that you that there would be no violations next time. Sorry! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethicaleditor1234 (talkcontribs) 18:03, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your quick reply to my question in the Teahouse! (my query about pronouns in the service awards). <3 SunnyBoi (talk) 11:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 32

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Barons of Chirbury


I have looked back through my family tree and I am descendant of 1st Baron Herbert of Chirbury and Castle Island. I have sent a letter away claiming this title and I am currently going through legal processes to do so.

I am trying to put sources in on this page but I don't know where I should make them, could you help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esei99 (talkcontribs) 15:05, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

If and when the claim is recognised, there will presumably be independent sources discussing it. Until then, it can't go into the article, I'm afraid - we can't go adding information about things that may come to pass in the future, as if they were alrady factual. --bonadea contributions talk 15:14, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

university article under Russia category

there are few articles which require attention and cleanup. Could you provide some help to it ?Rusedu (talk) 19:46, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Ref spam

Hello. Can you tell me why you consider this a ref spam, please? It isn't according to WP:REFSPAM, or is it? --► Sincerely: A¥×aᚢ Zaÿïþzaþ€(hail sithis!) 20:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

It is called "Backlink building strategies for 2019", which in itself is a sure-fire sign that this is a low-content link. It constitutes WP:REFSPAM since the purpose is to driv users to the website and not to verify articl content. Wikipedia articles need scholarly sources that support the content of the article. --bonadea contributions talk 20:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Bonadea, thank you. I will try to be more careful in the future. --► Sincerely: A¥×aᚢ Zaÿïþzaþ€(hail sithis!) 08:55, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

List of most expensive buildings

Please take a look. an ip just made some significant edits and I'm not familiar enough with the article to judge it Hydromania (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

@Hydromania: Thanks for the heads-up. It looks like the edits were indeed disruptive, and they have been reverted (Materialscientist did so before I saw this). Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 05:42, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
ThanksHydromania (talk) 05:46, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

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Morrison Academy discussion


We've previously had a discussion about the curriculum section at Talk:Morrison Academy. CensoredDog and I want to restore and rewrite the deleted section, but we are awaiting your reply before we make further changes. CensoredDog seems to really want the passport section and I feel like it should be omitted, but we can deal with that later. Let me know what you think. Ganbaruby! 02:11, 18 March 2019 (UTC)