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I am slowly trying to add material to the independent Scouting pages, but this will take time, especially as all information needs to be properly sourced via web links. I'm also copying Scout pages that face deletion or merger on Wikipedia to the ScoutWiki site, where the content can be preserved. -- DiverScout (talk) 17:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Scouting in Northern Ireland[edit]

I have started the process of rewriting the UK County articles with this one. It covers both SA and SI in NI, but not Guiding. I do not know whether there are any traditional Scouting Groups there. Do you? I'll probably see how this goes and then flag doing Wales. It is a big job. --Bduke (talk) 05:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's going to be quite a job. I know that we have Groups over there, and will ask for some extra details on them and any other Independents active there. DiverScout (talk) 16:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. There is a need for that information on the NI article. I have now started the process for Wales. The Area articles are tagged for a merge. The discussion is at Talk:Scouting in Wales. That points to User:Bduke/Sandbox2, where I am drafting the new article. We need some information on traditional Scouting in Wales too. I have just heard of one Group but it closed. I do not the name of it. --Bduke (talk) 00:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any active B-PSA Groups in Wales, but will email to find out if there are/were any. The new pages are looking pretty good. Much easier to use. DiverScout (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

UK Region Scouting articles[edit]

"Scouting in East of England" is now pretty well drafted at User:Bduke/Sandbox4 and is nearly ready to be put into place. It is the only one so far with any B-PSA content. Are you happy with the way I have dealt with that content? Can you add more about the B-PSA East Anglia District. How many Groups, etc. are there? Can you mention other Distrcits in the region of East of England? I have dealt with Camp Sites separately as they are not always just TSA. Some are run for Scouts and Guides by a Trust. Many are open to many youth organisations. I am not completely happy with it. What are your thoughts? Other regions need the Campsite section cleaning up a bit. Can you add B-PSA material to any of the other regions? The last three are close to being put in place and six already are, plus Wales and NI. --Bduke (talk) 22:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

That looks good to me. Once it's up and running I'll add the other camp sites that I know of. There is also one site which is independently-owned, but available solely to Scouts and Guides (plus other similar youth groups), d7o you feel this would this be appropriate to add here?
BPSA Groups usually keep their heads down, if you want to know the full reasons we can chat by email. Fakenham Lancaster is the only group in this region willing to list itself on the net at the moment, but if this changes so can the format here. I'll slowly see what I can do about the other areas, but it is a bit tricky... DiverScout (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Good. I will put it in place when I have time. Yes, add stuff about camp sites that B-PSA folks use. I have altered all the campsite section to be more neutral mentioning TSA when it is appropriate. I will email you but in a while as I'm tied up. --Bduke (talk) 12:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Scouting and Guiding in Norfolk[edit]

What should we do with this article? It was a useful idea but we have now followed a different line. Nothing links to it now I have changed the redirect from Scouting in Norfolk, and its brother with no capital letter, to be in line with how all such articles now redirect to Scouting in East of England. Some material could be merged. I am not inclined to merge the number of Groups in each SA District, as this is rarely backed by reliable sources and gets altered by original research. The stuff on the British Boy Scouts is interesting and should be merged, but it needs a source. Do we have one? Since it deals with Guiding as well as Scouting making it a redirect is not the answer. I'm inclined to delete it and I could do that as a speedy delete if you requested it as sole author. What do you think? All the English regions are done now and I'm working on Scotland. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

This mentions the 1st Norwich, but not the other BBS Group. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Brian. I agree that this page has now served its purpose, so am happy for it to go. I'll try to find a reference for the second BBS Group, other than the email that I have from the BBS! May be best to refer it as "operated groups, including 1st Norwich" until I can do so. DiverScout (talk) 12:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
I have deleting it after moving in the stuff about the BBS as you suggest. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. I'll sort that out sometime. On your current edits, why not put the early Norfolk Groups under History where I put the old Suffolk Groups. After all they were neither B-PSA or TSA back then. I think that is appropriate. The stuff on other associations is great. I wish we could get that sort of info on all region articles. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments! I've moved the history stuff to the right location, and will add more detail when I find it. I've also started to add some graphics - badges at the moment. Some are not fantastic copies, and will need to be upgraded in the future, but I think that they add to the user-friendliness. DiverScout (talk) 14:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

WFIS World Jamboree[edit]

See WT:SCOUT#WFIS World Jamboree- images. I'm hoping we can create an article on WFIS World Jamboree with enough information on each jamboree to be able to retain the images. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

That would be nice, but I'm afraid that I have no idea where information for that is likely to be found on the 'net. If I find anything I'll link it! DiverScout (talk) 23:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Jamboree 2008 (Northumberland)[edit]

You appear to have just removed the AfD notice form this article. That does not remove it from AfD and you are not supposed to do that. Interestingly nobody has commented yet at the AfD discussion. --Bduke (Discussion) 11:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Brian, I have removed it as a malicious edit, which I am entitled to do, based on Jergen's refusal to give justification for his deletion request. I am happy to discuss issues, but do not like high-handed actions. DiverScout (talk) 11:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Regardless, removing the notice does not remove the article from the AfD process and can be considered disruptive editing. Looking at the entry at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamboree 2008 (Northumberland), Jergen put it up for deletion based on notability. The article does not currently have any third-party references that demonstrates notability. Your proper response should be to expand the references and demonstrate proper notability. If you participate in the AFD, I heartily recommend that you read Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Ed, the article cites external references, more than a large number of Scout articles on Wikipedia, as has been agreed by Brian on the talk page. It did before it was nominated. Failure to include enough external references is not, by the way, acceptable as sole justification for deletion under Wiki policies. Yes, I know policy too.
Jergen's justification was that it was not notable as it was a "regional event". It clearly was not, unless, for example, Portugal has magically become part of North East England. Jergen's nomination for AfD is, bluntly, based on a lie.
Jergen attempted a six-day speedy deletion, and when this failed rather than engage in communication he has simply tried another tactic to delete the page. Notability, on several counts, is contained within the article - and is now included in bullet points in the talk page. DiverScout (talk) 00:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Please calm down about this article. There is no SA plot. Nobody from the SA has, as far as I can see, even commented on this, let alone proposed it for deletion. Jergen is not SA. He is from Germany. Now it is getting some "keep" arguments. The more third party sources you can add the better. Yes, there are SA articles with no or few third party sources. We need to work together to fix them. --Bduke (Discussion) 00:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. I have never even mentioned the idea of Jergen being from the SA. I have complained about his high-handed attitude, which implies that this is somehow his site and he has no need to engage in discussion with others over content. DiverScout (talk) 09:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Apologies. I read this - "I guess that it's going to be my duty to mark a LOT of Scout stuff on Wikipedia for speedy deletion under the exact same criteria." as being against SA stuff, wrongly. That is still a bit pointy. Everybody except Jergen is trying to help to keep this article. I understand some of the points Jergen is making, but not the overall thrust. In particular he should have discussed his concerns more widely in the Project before putting it to AfD. Mostly we can sort stuff out internally without going to AfD. --Bduke (Discussion) 11:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it could be seen as a bit pointy, but I am a firm believer that what goes for one goes for all - and if his argument is valid for attempting a speedy delete, and now AfD, on this article, it has to apply equally to all similar articles! My argument against Jergen's actions, however, is his refusal to enter discussion before tagging AfD, so you don't need to worry about me behaving in like manner. :) As I hope is evidenced by my log, I'm far more likely to try to add external links and content to help Wiki articles. DiverScout (talk) 11:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Milhist![edit]

Heritage station infobox[edit]

Drat! I was thinking about doing that for a while and then never got round to it and eventually forgot. :) Good job.

Simply south (talk) 21:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Cheers! Glad it is of use! DiverScout (talk) 00:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

BPSA template[edit]

Please review, edit and use: {{Scoutorg BPSA}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. This will be/is already a great help! DiverScout (talk) 23:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
You are welcome. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Girl Scouts of Jamaica[edit]

Thanks for the help and support. YIS Lavinia--Girlscoutsjm (talk) 00:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Bronze Lion Award[edit]

Can you write an article on this? I think it would be most interesting! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do, but it would be hard to properly third-party reference one at the moment, so it would probably just be a paragraph on the WFIS article. DiverScout (talk) 11:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Norfolk[edit]

Hi

I am talking to a couple of people at the moment about checking through Norfolk articles and reworking bad ones/filling in missing ones.

Do you have any interest in this > I notice that a lot of your work is on Scouting, but if you could spare some time please let me know

Thanks--Chaosdruid (talk) 16:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Not a problem. I've been meaning to have a go at a few, and have added a few missing RAF pages and a couple of village entries, but have not had enough time to blitz many. Let me know, and I'll see what I can do! DiverScout (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Scouting in East of England[edit]

I removed the badge heading deliberately as I did not think it was needed. I also removed a sub heading for the Scout Network which I also thought was unnecessary. Now the editor who added the Scout Network stuff is complaining on my talk page that the Scout Network is under a badge heading. I have left the badge heading and have moved the Network stuff further up, but it is not ideal. The badge stuff dominates this section too much. Cheers, --Bduke (Discussion) 23:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Brian, if you note each County section has the same heading as part of the common format that has been there since the pages were adapted to meet the Fair Use agreement - also the title is there as it is the section written about District badges! Removing the title waters this down and could lead us back to the stage where the badges are ordered to be deleted. DiverScout (talk) 11:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I understand that, but I do not think we want a lot of sub-headings. Most sections should just be a single sentence and they should not have headings. My view on the images is different from yours and the majority. I would not care if they were removed. I think we are developing a free encyclopedia and we should not have fair-use images. I also have never shared the general Scout passion for badges. Of course I am not going to do anything as a result of my view. I do not have a consensus. --Bduke (Discussion) 22:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
That's fair enough, we're all different! I see badges as a way of including images, which are taken to be an important aspect of good content on Wikipedia, without having to worry about child-protection issues. I'd love to see the result of trying to gain consensus for removing all badges, but that is probably just my evil side! DiverScout (talk) 01:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
No, it is'nt going to happen unless ALL fair use images are removed from wikipedia. Have you seen the battle on Intelligent design to remove some fair use book covers. The attack on them is relentless. I suspect you are going to have work harder in the future to keep badge images. Me, I'll just keep my head down. --Bduke (Discussion) 07:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron[edit]

Barnstar search rescue.png Hello, DiverScout. Based on the templates on your talk page, please consider joining the Article Rescue Squadron. Rescue Squadron members are focused on rescuing articles for deletion, that might otherwise be lost forever. I think you will find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia. You can join >> here <<.

Ikip (talk) 18:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron![edit]

WELCOME from a Article Rescue Squad member
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Welcome to Article Rescue Squadron DiverScout, a dynamic list of articles needing to be rescued, which changes with new updates, can be found here:

I look forward to working with you in the future. A NobodyMy talk 22:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Welcome...Be bold! --Buster7 (talk) 22:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


I am not sure that the use of the template on Abbey Gates Primary School was a very good idea. Such primary schools are almost never notable, and the template is more effectively used only on articles where the work has a reasonable possibility of being effective in saving the article. DGG (talk) 17:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
That particular school had been used in national education training, which suggested to me that it might get past the predudice shown against Primary schools on Wikipedia. DiverScout (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to ARS![edit]

Hi, DiverScout, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles that have been tagged for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, ergo fixable and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome! -- Banjeboi 21:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Wizzard![edit]

Oh all right then, here you are. pablohablo. 21:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Cheers! XD DiverScout (talk) 00:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Well it's a bit unusual but who am I to argue with the closing admin? pablohablo. 12:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks on Norwich School (educational institution)[edit]

Thank you very much for noting your concerns about this article at the copyright problems board. I have removed the extensive runs of text duplicated from the article and left a note at the article's talk page explaining to interested contributors how to verify permission to use this information, if they so choose. I'm watchlisting the article for a time, as it seems possible that this one may be a problem with reintroduction of infringement. Anyway, just wanted to let you know that your diligence is noted and appreciated. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Response to: Old Norvicensians[edit]

Please note that I intend to revert you good faith edit as it does not reflect common practice on Wikipedia. See Gresham's School, List of Old Greshamians,, Eton College, etc. Regards, DiverScout (talk) 09:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing this, not much room to comment but sometimes I have problems editing articles primarily of relevance to the UK since I know a lot more about United States practice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeBoldInEdits (talkcontribs) 11:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Mid Norfolk Railway[edit]

Hi. Sorry, haven't been ignoring your request, just haven't had time to look at the article. I wouldn't be able to officially rate it as GA anyway, just give you some pointers to address to help you get there.

Your next step is probably to request a Peer Review. Whether that means getting other UK Railways editors to review it, or just some other editors, I don't know (I've never done it). (Have a look around the help pages for clues.) The idea is that you'll get input from impartial reviewers to help get the article into the right structure. Then you'll need to go through the GA review process (again, you'll need to look in the help pages for more...) But the article's well on the way, I'm sure...

Best of luck. EdJogg (talk) 00:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

On the 'Allo 'Allo! Episode which was filmed called A Fishy Sendoff not Sand Trap. Mr Hall of England (talk) 15:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

An edit to the Norwich School article[edit]

Hi - you engaged in a debate a while back with someone who wanted to remove me from a list of notable ex-pupils of Norwich School. Honestly, I don't believe I merit the reference and I would prefer not to be listed. Tom Coates (talk) 10:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Trouble is that you have an article about you, meaning that you meet Wikipedia notability standards and, therefore, end up getting listed. Guess that that is the problem with being a public figure. DiverScout (talk) 10:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I understand that I have no criteria by which I could protest being in there. I'm just a little unsure that there's a particularly good reason for inclusion either. Compared to the other people listed, my contributions to the world are utterly trivial. A lot of people in the technology industry get listed in Wikipedia. They scrape in at the bottom of the notability scale, but because they're notable to an audience that are heavy Wikipedia users they get listed. As it stands, given that I'm still alive as are many people I went to school with, that reference is just sort of embarrassing. Tom Coates (talk) 22:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I can see what you mean, but I'd certainly argue that you have made more of a contribution than, say, Becky - and the most famous ON there only went to the school for a couple of weeks, so is hardly an ON. I'm not keen on removing you on the basis of Wiki notability and impartial editing, but I'm hoping to add a lot more people (if the school has anything like as many notables as other independents) which will make you less obvious. As a favour, though, I'll accidentally miss it if someone else edits you out (until the list is improved and other living notables are included). With regard to those who you went to school with, I'd just laugh at their jealousy! DiverScout (talk) 07:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Scouting in the UK[edit]

Pleas see the discussion at Scouting in the UK#Issues. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ed. Not sure which discussion you are flagging as there is no Scouting in the UK#Issues entry and no discussion I can see on the stub article Scouting and Guiding in the United Kingdom. Could you give me a pointer about where to look? DiverScout (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
<facepalm> Here is the link :Template talk:Scouting in the UK#Issues and here is a pointer. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Cheers, and great Pointer btw! :) DiverScout (talk) 08:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Notable rail crash - County School 1915[edit]

By all means add the crash again if you think it important, but be prepared to see others revert it again. There are at least three or four bumper-crunchers on the railways every year in Britain resulting in no casualties, and there were probably far more every year in the past. A trawl through the documents listed by year in The Railways Archive gives some indication of the volume. If all these were deemed notable, the article might well become unmanageably large. It is also unfortunate that this trifling (with regards to loss of life and injury) incident is immediately adjacent to the disastrous Quintinshill crash, the worst in British history. HLGallon (talk) 11:54, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

File:WyDFRAC charter at Fakenham 1979.jpg[edit]

Hey, sorry, are you Chris Milnes? It's not made clear from the image description... J Milburn (talk) 12:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

No, Chris does not have a PC that can do this - that is why it's been listed using the Wikipedia upload instructions for third-parties rather than the first-person one. DiverScout (talk) 23:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for clarifying. May be worth adding an explanatory line (mentioning who Chris is- a friend of yours?) to the image- that's the kind of thing that could wind up deleted, and may stand in the way of an article becoming good/featured, if it's not clarified. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


Scouting barnstar[edit]

The Scouting Barnstar

-For sustainded superior performance in the area of Scouting topics in support of the ScoutingWikiProject.RlevseTalk 01:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) DiverScout (talk) 16:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Baden-Powell Scouts' Association[edit]

Since you are the local expert, what is the gold-and-black emblem used for? If the red-green one is the Tenderfoot, which should we use? The red-green one seems to pop up more commonly, but the gold-black one matches the Rover Scout one fairly closely, leading me to believe it is the international emblem. Do they have specific names? That would also help in naming. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 10:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The yellow fleur-de-lys is the emblem of the Baden-Powell Scouts' Association, comparable to the "swoosh" TSA thing. The green badge with the red fleur-de-lys is the common Tenderfoot badge. For Air and Sea sections this is a navy-blue ovoid badge with a yellow fleur-de-lys. Other associations with similar names to the Baden-Powell Scouts' Association, in some cases related to the B-PSA use a red fleur-de-lys for their emblem - but it is not ours. If you can cite specific badges and emblems I'll have a bash at identifying them - but there are a heck of a lot of variants. DiverScout (talk) 18:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Bintree[edit]

Hello DiverScout

I have reverted you edit to the Bintree Article. The Watermill is known as Bintry and not the Bintree after the village. I live close by and know this to be true and if you check the Norfolk Mills[1] site you will also see it is referred to as Bintry. The postal address is also Bintry.
 stavros1  ♣  12:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I live near there too (and am bred and born Norfolk) and provided a reference for Bintree Mill which is what I am most people I know have always known it as. There seem more references for Bintree Mill than Bintry Mill - but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it! DiverScout (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

  • As a point of reference have a look at the photos of the owners lorry's that are on the Norfolk Mills web site[2].Stavros1 (talk) 19:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
  • After more research into the correct name for this mill I have noticed that the OS Explorer Map 238 Dereham & Aylsham, Castle Acre & Reepham refers to the watermill as Bintree. Faden’s Map of Norfolk 1797 refers to the watermill as Bintry, so I guess both names are correct really.
     stavros1  ♣  22:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
I know that the whole village was known as Bintry for a long while, and still does sometimes, then Bintree became the more accepted spelling. I'm assuming that the mill has been following this accord (or lack of). Is often a pig trying to settle these issues so unless either of us comes on something definitive I agree it's probably best to leave it with your version!
As an aside, do you happen to know anything about the chapel in Broom Green? I'm hoping to sort something out for the hamlet in the next week or so and any extra information would be helpful. DiverScout (talk) 23:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Have created a redirect page Bintree Watermill to this article --palmiped |  Talk  12:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer[edit]

Per your request at WP:PERM/RW I've granted you the reviewer flag. Be sure you're familiar with the guidelines at Wikipedia:Reviewing. All the best ~ mazca talk 19:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. DiverScout (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

BPSA Ireland[edit]

Has it closed? I thought I saw somewhere that it had merged with BPSA UK? Cheers from Spring in Oz. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

B-PSA Ireland as a body has closed, with the Groups being merged into the "main" B-PSA. This was on our homepage for a while, but the article has since expired. Cheers from a rather wet, chilly and Autumnal UK! DiverScout (talk) 16:28, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
this edit needs to be partially reversed, indicating that B-PSA Ireland did exist but is now part of the "main" B-PSA, but I am not sure exactly what that means, so can you do it? --Bduke (Discussion) 22:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I reverted the edit on Northern Ireland but had not got Ireland on my watch list. DiverScout (talk)

Speedy deletion declined[edit]

Hi, I declined your speedy deletion request of Kelly Middle School because schools are specifically exempted from being speedily deleted for notability concerns. Feel free to use prod or afd, but not CSD. LadyofShalott 12:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, as all non-High School have been automatically declined notability on here for some time. Primary (Elementary) schools with fully researched and referenced articles, including participation in national research have been speedy deleted again and again. I'm glad that this has changed, but could you let me know where the consensus to retain is recorded so that I can refer to it in future cases. DiverScout (talk) 14:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Hmm... OK, I'm not saying it is automatically assumed notable - as is the case with high schools... just not speedily deletable. I'll have to look further though. LadyofShalott 15:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes, if you look at WP:CSD, the A7 section says "An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools)" (emphasis mine). Note that schools, not simply high schools, are specifically exempted from A7 speedy deletion. LadyofShalott 15:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Superb, thanks. That could prove handy to know! Your time is much appreciated! :) DiverScout (talk) 16:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) LadyofShalott 16:12, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Mid-Norfolk Railway: signal boxes[edit]

Hi, why is it necessary to use tables for the signal box information of Thuxton railway station, Hardingham railway station, Yaxham railway station and County School railway station? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Simply to provide a structured format to make it easier to access the information. I know some don't like tables, but I do! :) DiverScout (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Carrow Road[edit]

Hello. Nice addition to the article. I do plan to one day get that article to FA status... can you include any further details on the rodeo event? Numbers of attendees, regiments, price, type of entertainment, what they did with the playing surface, anything? Finally, are you a NCFC fan? Cheers, --Dweller (talk) 16:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Sadly at the moment information is a bit sparce. This was the first confirmation I've ever found that it really took place. The pitch looked a bit rough in the photo, but I guess that not many matches were being played. I hate to imagine the state of the ground afterwards! If I find any more I'll add it! OTBC DiverScout (talk) 18:21, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Town Close Prep[edit]

Hi. I notice you removed the NOT tab I just placed on here. It wasn't placed because of any primary level of education, but simply because the article doesn't seem to claim any notability whatsoever as far as I can see - certainly nothing which would seem to justify it's inclusion under WP:ORG for example. The association with Newmarket Road is, frankly, dubious and extremely inherited - the notability there is with the football club, not with the school. I wondered if you wanted to either provide some refs to show notability or explain why you think it is clearly notable? Thanks. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:53, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Blue Boy Scouts[edit]

Note that edit summary indicated that Blue Boy Scouts information was moved to Queensland article as the Blue Boy Scouts was a single unit in Queensland. Spshu (talk) 12:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did notice that but I also saw that the Blue Boy Scouts fitted into a larger jigsaw of Scouting in Australia and therefore feel that it ought to remain on the page about that subject and not be dropped, unlinked, into an article that a person looking for information on Australian Scouting would be unlikely to check. DiverScout (talk) 22:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Lawrie Dring[edit]

Greetings from down under. Did you see the recent edit to this article giving a date of death for Lawrie? Can you confirm this and give a source, so we can deal with it properly in the article and not just in the infobox? -Bduke (Discussion) 08:53, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I can confirm the sad news that Lawrie has died. I'll do an update, if nobody else gets there first, once I have a obit to refer to. DiverScout (talk) 11:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Wells-next-the-Sea[edit]

Hi, I notice you reverted two edits to Norfolk Orbital Railway stating "here never was a Well-next-the-Sea railway station. Please check corrections before making them." However, such a station did exist: Wells-next-the-Sea railway station was renamed from Wells-on-Sea in 1957. Wells-On-Sea railway station is a redirect to it. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:20, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I've never seen a single photograph to back this claim. The station was signed as "Wells-On-Sea", and the current railway station in the town is still "Wells-On-Sea". Maybe it appeared in a timetable for a couple of years using the town's name or some such, but unless I see proof I will contest this. DiverScout (talk) 10:46, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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Mid-Norfolk Railway[edit]

Why are you insisting on the inclusion of unsourced speculation at Mid-Norfolk Railway, contrary to both WP:CRYSTAL and WP:V? Why are you also insisting on linking ground frame twice, contrary to WP:OVERLINK? --Redrose64 (talk) 17:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Why are you insisting on over-tagging articles rather than actually doing edits if you feel they are needed? I am not insisting on the double link - feel free to edit that out. The statement that you want to spam is indicated as an intended completion date - hardly a crystal ball moment. DiverScout (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Norwich Grammar School[edit]

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nice article! Could do with linking to relevant article categories, but overall looking good. Could do with a couple more refs, commanding officers and successor units could do with citation. Cheers Irondome (talk) 17:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks. Successor units is text from the main Norfolk Regiment article rephrased - there were no references there either. :( Commanding officers would all be referred to from the main history of the unit. I'll add a caveat type sentence to the start of the section that indicates this rather than just repeating the inline endlessly! I do feel that I've managed more refs than a lot of larger unit pages already, but intend to keep adding them as I find them. DiverScout (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Also must point out that you have tagged it as uncategorised right above the already in-situ categories! ;) DiverScout (talk) 17:37, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Premarin, talk pages generally[edit]

I will take your last comment as a direct question about COI so I will answer directly. I work at a university and have no relationship with Wyeth or that drug. I actually work a lot on COI issues here in WP at WP:COIN. Going forward, please keep in mind that we discuss content, not contributors on article talk pages. If you have a concern with a user's behavior (including COI) you can address that simply and politely at the user's talk page, and if you are not satisfied, you can bring a case to WP:COIN or WP:ANI. But you should not personalize a content dispute at an article Talk page. More generally, everything in WP needs to be reliably sourced per WP:RS for general content for WP:MEDRS for content related to health - it doesn't matter if the content is praising pharma or ripping on pharma. I hope that makes sense.Jytdog (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but where I see COI I will call it - and the self-appointed Wikibullies do not intimidate me. I realise that the majority of contributors have been driven off by the self-appointed few, but I will call a spade a spade under a non-WP known as freedom of speech. Oh, and it is custom to sign posts. DiverScout (talk) 19:21, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Commons[edit]

Please upload self-made images to the Commons. Do you think that the 100s of other language wikis are uninterested in your images? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:03, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

No idea - however whilst the form for local uploads exists I will continue to use what I am happy with and has been provided by Wikipedia Foundation for users to use. I am sure that when the site feel that this is no longer appropriate they will withdraw that facility. Thank you for calling. Bye. DiverScout (talk)
Just appending this, as I realise that the above could read as "grumpy git syndrome"! I prefer to let others decide if my photos are any use and to use what I know as I have not used the Commons thing or taken any time to read up on what is supposed to be the criteria for adding to it. Thanks again. Bye. DiverScout (talk)

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March Madness 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019[edit]

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