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Rami Malek[edit]

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Rami Malek has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

I certainly think the article is at the stage where it can be nominated, and would achieve, Good Article status.

Over the long term I have a couple of suggestions. I did not check, but I suspect that a number of statements are supported by two or three citations. This is overkill - one reputable/renowned source will do, as I'm sure you know. Not surprisingly with so many contributors the citation style is inconsistent and should also be looked at. Neither of these should prevent the article from achieving Good Article status. I like the fact it has not fallen prey to the tendency to include laundry lists of reviews, quotes etc... It is nice and succinct, covering the salient points,

Best of luck with the GA nomination when you get to it.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you so much for your feedback and help. I'll take a look at your suggestions. If I have any questions, I'll let you know. Thanks again.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 17:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Esprit15d: I saw your note to contributors to the Malek article. What I meant about the citations is to make sure the fields are in the correct order for the type of citation being used. For example the template cite web has the following in the order specified: For references with author credit

The cite web citation includes in this orderf: |url= |title= |last= |first= |date= |website= |publisher= |access-date= |quote=

For references without author credit

The cite web citation includes in this order |url= |title= |author= |date= |website= |publisher= |access-date= |quote=}}

The date of the article, and the date the article was accessed by the person using it as a citation will be different. An access-date must be included, but it will not match the article date.

This article Wikipedia:Citing sources (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources} has links to each of the types of citation and their format. I hope this clarifies what I meant, Sorry for the confusion. Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

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Question[edit]

Hello! I am interested in an edit you made to the page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Tyrangiel

In which you wrote (and more recently reinstated) a "list of notable interviews"

Question: where is this information from?

Any help much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iaojiocoijcoij (talkcontribs) 03:05, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

  • @Iaojiocoijcoij:: At a glance, it appears that some of them already have references and some were cover articles (presumably from when he was at Time). I can't say for sure where that information was originally sourced from, but I can assist you in finding references. I'm working on another project at the moment, but when I get a chance, I'll drop in.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 03:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iaojiocoijcoij (talkcontribs) 04:34, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Georgia Tann article[edit]

I was looking at the Georgia Tann article, and noticed what looks like an error in the "Notable cases" section you added: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_Tann&diff=888117071&oldid=888045697

Based on the dates listed the babies in question would have been born ~ 1955, or 5 years after Georgia Tann's death. You've added a paper magazine as a reference here, so I can't check where the error originates. If you've still got access to that magazine, could you double check whether the numbers are correct? Or whether it is printing an interview that was conducted years earlier, maybe? --James (talk) 07:40, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

@James:I didn't do the math when I added the statement, but you are correct, their birth would have been 5 years after she died. But, I reviewed the article again (you can see an abstract here: http://www.readabstracts(DOT)com/Family-and-marriage/Happy-families-As-young-as-they-feel-age-is-a-state-of-mind.html - replace "DOT" ) and it did say that her twins were born 37 years previously. So, clearly she's mistaken, and the article didn't fact check. I will just remove the statement from the article.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 12:26, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

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Barnett article[edit]

When I added the advertisement tag, I did nmot mean particularly advertising for the subject's firm, but for the causes they advocate for & the people they defend. No matter how highly I think of the merits, it still isn't right for an encyclopedia . DGG ( talk ) 02:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@DGG:I admit a was a bit surprised to see that tag added. I am all for collaboration, so I read through the article again more critically, but I'm not really seeing any language that would justify a tag at the top of the article. I'm curious to know if you can give specific examples of as advocacy for the cause, promotional external links, or NPOV language. I'm open to discussion, but I'm not seeing a justification for the use of that tag. --Esprit15d • talkcontribs 02:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
I agree we need a better tag to avoid confusion. I ought to write one. But I will also look again at the article. DGG ( talk ) 06:17, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
We'll keep chipping away at it.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 12:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
I've looked at it again. Problems include: the material and references discussing Kardashian West's sponsorship of her organization, which seems peripherial and disproportate in length. Then, there is some ambiguity in the number of people she for whom she helped get clemency for. It claims 17, which is probably the number for her organization as a whole. It only mentions two , and I assume these are ones for whome she was either the principal attorney, or one of the principal attorneys--it is't clear which. More basic, and what caught my eye, is section 3, discussing in some detail two of the cases, If we have articles on the cases, the material would belong there; I do not think we do, so probably a single sentence each might be appropriate. (they are also mentioned earlier, and I think that's the appropriate content) The inclusion of the comments of the judges is advocacy for the cause. The inclusion of herself praising her own work, complete with full caps, is puffery.
there are similar problems with some of the cases for Kathleen Zellner. How to balance articles on lawyers like this is a problem, that has not been solved. How to deal with tneed to advocate here for things one wants to advocate for is a recurrent problem. I personally tend to be rather cold-blooded, because I'm concerned with setting an example to be used by promotional editors writing articles for attorneys. But I can understand a view that one should get in as much information as one can without being too conspicuous about it. I would support full articles on the individuals in wrongful conviction cases whenever possible. DGG ( talk ) 17:08, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
@DGG:I by no means think the article is complete or perfect. But, I'll address your specific issues individually: the material and references discussing Kardashian West's sponsorship of her organization, which seems peripherial and disproportate in length The references about Kim Kardashian's relation to the issue aren't really "references." They are substantiating the assertion in the article that the issue was widely reported on, which they undoubtedly were. The coverage of her involvement is not disproportionate either. Kardashian is the primary (if not sole) funder the effort and is essentially the "celebrity face" of Barnett, which Kardashian openly admits. As there is no question that Kardashian's personal meetings with Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, and other members of Trump's cabinet, as well as a meeting with the president himself (that he personally insisted be covered by the White House press staff as well outside reporters) is notable. True, whenever Kim Kardashian shows up (not to even mention Trump himself) the tone is a bit salacious because of their public images. But that is not relevant to the fact that it was a notable event and relevant to Barnett's efforts, since that meeting directly led to Trump continuing Obama's policy of clemency for nonviolent drug offenses (which I doubt he would have done otherwise), as well as the the introduction of the First Step Act into law.
It claims 17, which is probably the number for her organization as a whole. It only mentions two , and I assume these are ones for whome she was either the principal attorney, or one of the principal attorneys--it is't clear which.Barnett is the only attorney in her "organization," although she is a professor at her alma mater and enlists the help of the law students to do some of her research. The number 17 is the the prisoners that been released in the last three months--not total--and the article mentions that she worked with another attorney names MiAngel during the campaign. That is absolutely verifiable. I could actually include citations of docket cases in the article, but it would go against Wikipedia's policy WP:PRIMARY. Not all of the cases notable, and so not all of them are discussed here. I've only included cases that had wide media coverage.
In response to this: More basic, and what caught my eye, is section 3, discussing in some detail two of the cases. If we have articles on the cases, the material would belong there; I do not think we do, so probably a single sentence each might be appropriate., while I respect your opinion, it doesn't reflect [Wikipedia policy or precedent: there is EXTENSIVE precedent in Wikipedia for law offices, lawyers, and judges articles to include notable cases. Barnet has litigated MANY cases, not only in advocacy, but in the financial world. However, most of them are not notable and should not be included in wikipedia. The ones included, however, are notable, because they received widespread coverage in the media. This is the equivalent of a singer articles including coverage his/her discography, or a senator's article including coverage of principle legislation that she/he authored. Covering summaries of notable cases of a lawyer is the same. For examples of other comparable articles that have FA or GA standing, see the following: Jack Thompson (activist), Sonia Sotomayor, F. Lee Bailey, Antonin Scalia, Henry W. Sawyer, Kenesaw Mountain Landis, Learned Hand, Tom Denning, Baron Denning, Richard Goldstone, Patrick Hastings, Adrian S. Fisher, Ted Frank, Clifford Scott Green. I'll also include my comments on the talk page of the article.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 14:56, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
I'll reply on the article talk p. , DGG ( talk ) 10:45, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

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