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Mullum Malarum[edit]

You uplifted my hopes only to bring them down again. The article having gone through multiple GOCE edits, I believed the prose significantly improved. I got the key pages from the director's memoirs translated , but if it is illegible, I'll give you a typed version. Besides, I re-watched the movie on Sunday via Prime Video, and felt the Wiki plot was more than 90% correct, just some statements needed to be placed in chronological order. --Kailash29792 (talk) 03:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Please post at FAC. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:16, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Be happy! Long Live Lord Fowler! --Kailash29792 (talk) 16:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I want to solve all issues before I attempt another FAC. I rewrote the development section with help yesterday. Now where all do you want me to remove Mahendran's book as a source from the article? If a statement is available only in that book and nowhere else, you cannot call that OR worth removing. Maybe I can write, "In his 2013 book Cinemavum Naanum, Mahendran said...". The Frontline article is not a carbon copy of the book in English, and has maybe one or two factual errors. I believed primary sources only fail in places like box office coverage. The book does not lack complete third-party coverage, here's proof. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Please post only on Talk:Mullum Malarum. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Then please reply to what I wrote there. --Kailash29792 (talk) 11:44, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

India scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the India article has been scheduled to be rerun as today's featured article for October 2, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 2, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors up to the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:34, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Great news F&f. Congratulations on a job well done! --regentspark (comment) 15:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: Thanks Jim. Who wrote that? It looks pretty good! My compliments to the author. Will take a closer look. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
@RegentsPark: Thank you! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Congratulations from me, too. If I may make so bold, though, I get the feeling the blurb concentrates too much on recent geopolitical stuff at the cost of material on pre-1947 history (in particular, I'd prefer to lose the stuff about strategic importance and such that verges on cruft). I'm happy to take a hack at it if you would like me too, but you're considerably better qualified. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:54, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Let me come up with something and then compare. Will post within a day. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Normally someone making a TFAR request includes a blurb in their submission, but you obviously didn't realise that so I used the blurb from last time around updated a bit to reflect changes since. The main thing is to stick to the 1000 characters. Also pinging Dank as our blurb expert so he's aware of this discussion Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── OK, great Jimfbleak. I will write something in the next 24 hours, and then others can whip it into shape. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 05:56, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak:,@Dank:, @Vanamonde93:, @RegentsPark: I have rewritten Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 2, 2019, giving it a more historical and geological slant, in keeping with Vanamonde's concern. The photo too is of an inhabitant of India the arrival of whose ancestors predated the human by aeons. I have also made the connection with Gandhi's 150th, which I hope readers will get. The character count utility says 992 characters, but it doesn't include the photo caption. Feel free to alter it in whichever encyclopedic manner you wish. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Looks great so far. Current character counter is 789; it has to be between 925 and 1025. I can expand it if you like. Pinging David Levy about the image. - Dank (push to talk) 02:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Please do expand it, and improve it too. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:38, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

─────────────────────────Excellent work, @Dank:. Two minor quibbles. You might want to change it to:

"Modern humans first migrated into India the subcontinent over 55,000 years ago, and settled life emerged in the western margins of the Indus River basin 9,000 years ago. Second only to Africa in human genetic diversity, the subcontinent India is home to a diverse mix of languages, religions, and cultures. After 190 years in the British Empire, India gained its independence in 1947. Mahatma Gandhi, born 2 October 1869, is widely considered to be the founder of the modern state nation."

The reason is that the Indus lies mostly in Pakistan, and Gandhi was determinedly anti-state. He use to be more commonly called the Father of the Nation, but that sounds a little quaint now to me. But I'll leave that to your (and others') better judgment. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:13, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks good. Perhaps change "in the British Empire" to "[[of British rule"?--regentspark (comment) 12:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
"rule" is accurate in some ways and overstates in other ways. It's up to you guys. Making the suggested changes now. - Dank (push to talk) 12:31, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Last night, my "diversity ... diverse" seemed okay, but now it seems repetitive ... feel free to tweak that. I was able to keep just about everything you did, F&F ... great work. - Dank (push to talk) 12:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I think British Empire is OK. Large parts of India were directly ruled by the British in the British Raj (1858 to 1947), but British India's boundaries were constituted earlier during Company rule in India (1757 to 1857). It is that period of 190 years we are referencing. Both were in the British Empire. I tweaked it to replace the diversity-diverse bit with diversty-large, and a few other minor edits. Thanks again Dank! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:58, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Agreed, looks good. - Dank (push to talk) 13:16, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Looks good to me too. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)