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Barnstar for you![edit]

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I've looked at your tireless contribution to templates. So i believe this barnstar should suit you. Ibrahim ebi (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help to improve the Adopt-a-typo template. Much appreciated! Jason Quinn (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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For getting better performance and adding options to the chess diagram template. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Let me just second this (since you've got three on this page already). Thank you for all those well-framed edit requests you made to the convert sub-templates. ~Adjwilley (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Erdbeerteller01.jpg Thank you for editing Sandhani page. Dr. Kabir Hossain (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
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Module:testcase table is great! Thanks for making it! —hike395 (talk) 03:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hey Frietjes! Thanks for your wonderful and helpful contributions in SpongeBob related areas. I really appreciate it. Keep it up! Thanks and happy editing! :) Mediran (tc) 03:12, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for being observant to other's (i.e. me) ham-fisted hacking and repairing damaged templates without fuss. You rock! FruitMonkey (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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For your work correcting the "year" field in 1000s of uses of {{Infobox Australian place}}. Much appreciated. Mattinbgn (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for you work on tables and templates! -- Wywin (talk | contribs) 18:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for all your work replacing instances of {{convert/spell}} with the new Lua compliant {{convert|...|spell=in}} AdmrBoltz 20:54, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Frietjes, I would like to thank you for taking care and fixing the oil field infobox even without asking. It was really kind of you. Beagel (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for all the updating of the population data you are doing on Queensland places! Great work!

Kerry (talk) 00:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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You have been awarded the prestigious Golden Doubloon for your services to the WP:ANATOMY WikiProject. Thanks!
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Thank you for adding team colors for college basketball players. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
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tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for your fix at Template:Infobox winery. You've just fixed something that had been a small annoyance to me and probably others for a long time. SchreiberBike talk 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
A Cookie for your work behind-the-scene's on various currency articles
On a number of occasions now I've noticed you've made a whole series of benificial but tedious improvements to various currency articles. These are mostly the type of improvements that are behind the scene's (formatting, wikifying, etc.) and thus might go unrecognized, so I wanted to take a moment to thank you and let you know it's appreciated. Gecko G (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks so much for the work on the Nanjing districts template! Your input on the template itself and placement within articles is extremely helpful! I had posted two questions about how to format it and you resolved both issues! It's very much appreciated and looks really nice now. CaroleHenson (talk) 15:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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Nice work on {{Taxation}}! You do a lot of work in neglected areas, and it's always a big improvement. bobrayner (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
A small cup of coffee.JPG Thank you for patrolling unused templates and nominating them for deletion. The cleanup is very useful. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for the article changes :) Viktor O. Ledenyov (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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Frietjes, thank you for your excellent work streamlining the color coding used in navboxes for college football and other college sports subjects. Jweiss11 (talk) 06:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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For your unceasing work on the many WP Templates, I hereby award you this Barnstar YSSYguy (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
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A big thanks for your help with putting in grid-numbers in info-boxes: it works like dream! With best wishes, Huldra (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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For your endeavor in template cleanup, where I sometimes feel overwhelmed, and wish I were more like you. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 19:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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"My own work" (the pic not the star!) --Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Sun 07:11, wikitime= 23:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Gaufre biscuit.jpg Thanks for correcting my sourcing mistake on Defense of the Reich. Much appreciated. GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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for the amazing work you do everyday and the help you provide to the CHECKWIKI project. Magioladitis (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
A kitten for you!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for fixing this! Face-grin.svg

  dainomite   15:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

And thats a high five to you😃
Thanks for all you good contribution. It was greatly appreciated👋 Brilloman12 (talk) 05:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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For you hard work at cleaning up templates. Just checked my watch list and it BLEW UP with all the changes you made. Keep up the awesome work! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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hi, thank u for editing in my page user :)

SURDUSVII 17:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


For helping me today!

Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for monitoring the talk page for Module:College color/data and adding the support for references proactively. —Bagumba (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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For improving ISBN checks! Magioladitis (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks a lot for merging {{Infobox Jain temple}} with {{Infobox religious building}}. You deserve this. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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In 2015 you were one of the top 300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate further.
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You have been awarded a barnstar by WikiProject Middle-earth for your tireless effort of cleaning up template shortcuts. De728631 (talk) 19:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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My wikilove again and again!!

Magioladitis (talk) 19:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Three years ago ...
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tireless template help
... you were recipient
no. 441 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Export hell seidel steiner.png Thanks for your contribution to the draft of the National Science Museum at Maynooth AugusteBlanqui (talk) 19:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for all of your help at Module:College color... you ROCK! It would be no where where it is today without you!!! 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 23:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Trying to make up for being nasty. Was having a bad day and you, unfairly, paid the price.

Maragm (talk) 13:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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This Barnstar of Diligence is awarded to Frietjes for persistence and diligence in emptying Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls, which contained tens of thousands of pages with errors, over the last two years. Thanks, from one gnome to another. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you, template guru! bd2412 T 21:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
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-For solving the uniform riddle we've had for 6 years, putting your mad tech skills available to the Wiki community, fast and cheerfully! --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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For your continued assistance with modules and templates. Thank you for being such a joy to work with and for being so responsive to requests for assistance. Keep up the awesome work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
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For your continued work on templates, particularly your dedication to templates that are insanely complicated, such as Template:Infobox country. Everyone wanted that template converted to use {{Infobox}}, but no one (including myself) wanted to put in the time and effort to make it happen. Way to step up and get it done! Keep up the amazing work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you User:Frietjes for those amazing improvements you made to Holocaust infoboxes: concentration camp and Holocaust event. This is what I call, putting advanced knowledge of formatting into the best possible use for the benefit of our project.[30] [31] All best, and thank you again, Poeticbent talk 16:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
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For eliminating mainspace articles in Category:Pages using infobox map with x or y by creating location maps, I award you this barnstar! Thanks so much! —hike395 (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
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Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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for your outstanding work in developing a technical template to convert coordinates from German to English Wiki format; something which has caused problems for years and will now save thousands of nugatory editor hours. Well done and thank you! Bermicourt (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
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For your wonderful work! Huldra (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
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For your incredible work on Module:Sidebar games events. Not just the fact that you got that done, but you are such a pleasure to work with. You have a wonderful attitude, are eager to work with others and help a n00b like myself. You are truly a stellar wikipedian. THANK YOU! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:29, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
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thanks for being so helpful —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 21:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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Thank you for your valuable contributions! You are a valuable contributor on Wikipedia! Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Frietjes I Respect Your opinion, I try To merge these pages to the main Volleyball box page but It seems technically hard for me, I tell the creator of volleyball box page to add these categories, He didin't Reply at all So I have created these pages I think its a useful solution. so please I hope to keep these pages, cause when you delete it all. It will deform the panorama in other linked pages. thanks Elly mino (talk) 22:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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Well Thank You for your Last contributions, Great Work Elly mino (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for your help in creating Module:Location map/data/Japan complete. It will prove useful in a number of articles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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Great work on several templates, especially sports-related ones like Template:Sports_rivalry_series_table. It's made them more compact and easier to use. Keep up the good work! WuTang94 (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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Just a reminder that you are awesome. Left a message on your page asking for some help, and MINUTES later, you were all over it. People like you are what make Wikipedia awesome.

Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Qwerty number1 (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
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Six years!

Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary[edit]

From my talk page back in september.

Bugger bugger bugger, I saw a map in the transport museum in budapest we went the other week and it had the lat and long but in pretty much a mercator projection. My missus was more interested with the toy trains so I didn't get a chance to take the measures off it. If it's wrong (as it is) it should be deleted but I am still trying to get the measures right. The thing is it's specifically Kingdom of Hungary, but the more atlases (atli? :) I look at the more different lats and longs I get. And anything one does on Hungarian articles is rather contentious, so it is probably really better deleted. Because people whose great grandfathers were part of the Kingdom of Hungary will say no that's Croatia or Slovakia or Slovenia or Yugoslavia or Jugoslavia or The People's Republic of East Kebab. Since Hungarian politics is very contentious and goes on racist grounds in far more than would be allowed in where I come from, this is better off deleted. (Hint: say Treaty of Trianon to a Hungarian and await results.) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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I never did get round to this. I took the coords off of file at right, which is very high quality but seems to have an odd idea of where 0 longitude is (it suggests it is east of Paris, but that didn't seem to work). As you suggested, I tried to take well-known points at the edges of the map: Fiume, for example, at south-west. I took very good readings after printing out this map at A0 size and using ruler and compass, my trig is quite good, but I could never get it to fit. Si Trew (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
.Oh, Template:Location_map_Kingdom_of_Hungary/test might help you. You see, Fiume's in the right place but Budapest is a bit too far left and the rest are well out. Si Trew (talk) 06:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
That map uses the Paris meridian. It's not a Mercator projection, the lines of latitude aren't quite parallel. Maproom (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, thanks for the tip. I have written code for generating coefficients for nonlinear projections if I know the functional form. but, the code requires at least as many reference points as there are coefficients. basically a nonlinear least-squares algorithm. the problem here is that other than the reference markings on the side of the map, it's tough to get reference points in the middle. Frietjes (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Si Trew, should we just give up on Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary and have it deleted? Frietjes (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
How many do you need in the middle? You get get a reference point near each corner by specifying where the nearest line of (Paris) longitude would cross the nearest line of latitude, and use towns like Szolnok (which Google Earth says is 47°10'N 20°11'E Greenwich) in the middle. Maproom (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, now that I look at it again, I think we have enough with the two interior intersection points and the points along the edges. the original question was about the image in Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary which is less clear. for File:Hungary-ethnic_groups.jpg, I think we can make a working location map. thank you again. Frietjes (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Just a thought, maybe not very coherent at this time of night. Using an ethnographic map as a location map may, as Si Trew pointed out, be contentious. Will it help if instead I upload to Commons this map? It uses a Ferro meridian, which is no worse than Paris, and shows enough towns such as Szolnok for central reference points. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, that may help. let's see what Si Trew says. my main focus is turning map images into working location maps. I don't really have a strong feeling about the particular map image, so long as it is created with a well-defined projection. Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Just asking out of curiosity – how do you "turn a map image into a location map"? Do you warp it into the Mercator projection that the template requires? Or do you supply the template with a transform function? Maproom (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Maproom, supply the transformation function. see, for example, module:Location map/data/Canada. if I know the functional form and a sufficient number of reference points, I can numerically solve for the coefficients. Frietjes (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. It's reassuring to see that things are done in such a sensible and comprehensible way. Incidentally – if you ever find a map image at that you could use in Wikipedia, please let me know and I'll put it on Commons. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
───────────────────────── Thanks for pinging me in on this. I know it was a long time ago. User:Maproom, yes I did guess it was the Paris Meridian all that time ago, but that didn't seem quite to fit either. Since then I took something and with Inkscape made a four-colour map (five if you include Lake Balaton as a fifth colour, blue, but could have been made a fourth colour as those that surround it are all in three other colours, it is just more pleasant to have it in blue but not mathematically necessary) and split out all the layers and borders and so on into separate layers on the SVG. I seem to recall I called it Template:Location Map Hungary2 or something – and I emphasise this is not the Kingdom of Hungary but the modern-day Hungary. All I had left to do was get the text labelling right. Searching for "a new look for an old map" was something roughly want some commenter said, may well have been User:Frietjes here but may not have been (a long time ago, just going from memory: and those exact words are what was printed on the front of the first H C Beck fold-up London Underground Diagram (often called "Map"; Beck himself never called it a map: I have good references for this from publications of the London Transport Museum in woodware) of 1933, so I am probably confusing those words with the same sentiment expressed. This is all such a long time ago, I give as hints for those who can search better than I.
On the plus side, by pure coincidence (these are not common around here in Budapest) my local pub has a nice 1898ish German (I think) map of Austria-Hungary; certainly pre-Treaty of Trianon. This is a five or six colour map and I am pretty sure it is in German but I am going from memory, I don't think it's in Hungarian. It would be about 40 by 25 inches (1,020 mm × 640 mm) and I daresay somehow I could get it scanned in, in one of the largescale printers in the town (who I happen to be also on good terms with, for various other reasons) or just take four A3 scans and stitch them with photoshop, assuming that my scanner doesn't distort too much. I am on good terms with the landlord as I have given him my British registration plates and various other British pub memorablia, it is that kind of pub, very much a "local", so I can ask to borrow the map (it's framed) or just go in on a quiet afternoon with a straightedge etc and try to get some measures off that. I think it is not the same as the image is here, though quite similar. As a start shall I get the maker etc, would that help at all, before I do the trig etc off it? I have a very good straightedge and fifty quids worth of setsquare adjustable protractor that I use for technical drawing on my A0 drawing board, it's about 25 inches (640 mm) long on its hypotenuese, which should be enough to measure angles and distances with some kinda veracity, I am not sure of the projection without looking again. Is it worth me taking a look and reporting back, probably will be about UTC+2 Friday tomorrow, else Monday? If you give me some nice trig points "in the middle" I will do my best to give you the readings off of them. These won't be 100% accuracy but will be within a second of arc or two through the distortion of the glass in the frame, I would imagine. Si Trew (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I understand if it is WP:COPYVIO etc but if I check the maker first, it may very well turn out not to be because of the date and also various other "things that have happened since", could well be PD or fair use. I think I check the maker first, that is clear enough in top right corner but don't remember offhand. Would that be of any use, at least to confirm or deny if it's the same as this one? It reminded me of this one, when I first saw it, but I think it is different but of about the same time. Si Trew (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
File:Hungary_location_map.svg is the one I made the four-colour svg version of. It just needs tidying on the text labels layer if I remember right, I can't remember its name. The computer it was on is long gone. File:Hungary location map2.svg? Something like that. We have File:Hungary location map-2.jpg on Commons, but that's not it, cos it's not four-colour and has labels in Cyrillic, is a jpg not an svg. Perhaps unfortunately it got deleted as unused. I'd need to ask an admin to dredge from about 2009 onwards. Users working on it would have been mostly me and perhaps occasionally the missus, no longer editing at Wikipedia for many a year due to very harsh and undeserved comments after excellent translations of English articles about the Tudors into HU:WP (something she is an expert in, more than I know and I'm bloody English): Her username was/is User:Monkap. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, the map you included wrongfooted me, this is exactly the map that is nominated (duh!) I was looking at the map you included on the right. No, don't give up on it, I'll try to fix it. It is nearly OK, all the coords and borders and counties etc are done on separate labels and I think it is much better than the boring brown map transcluded via {{Infobox Hungarian settlement}}. We just need to fix the edges and fix the text-label layer for some reason the font doesn't scale properly, I never did work out why, I shall try again. One reason to separate into different layers in a good GIS fashion is so that with a flick of the wrist one can turn off all the labels, turn off e.g. the county borders, make all the counties brown and just fill one particular county in a different colour (for Hungarian county articles) etc etc etc. I hand-edited the XML for the SVG to make it all nice, it's much much nicer than its predecessor for putting into a GIS etc because each county edge and county border and county name etc is labeleed in a very consistent fashion. The underlying SVG is File:Kingdom_of_Hungary_counties-2.svg. The polygons for the borders go actually in a kinda "cogwheel" order so that some going anticlockwise have their boundaries against the others going clockwise, rather in a toothed gearwheel manner, but that was just my pedantry; each county actually has its own borders as it did on the original, but on the original the borders for e.g Budapest to Pest County were a bit different from the borders of Pest County to Budapest, i.e. there was a gap or overlap, which now there is not in "my" version, they have all the coordinates bang on, as I did them all in hand in the XML not with some "snap it roughly to where it looks right" tool. All the bordering points have the same coords but the opposite directions (clockwise or widdershins) which helps the SVG polygon fill get it right without overlap or gap.
I think we should keep it and try to fix the labels and the "fix" coordinates for it. I suppose this was a labour of love but I think it does make it better than what is used in the infobox, it scales except for the text labels and the old one has errors in the border coords that leave gaps or overlaps, it just doesn't seem so at the scale used in infoboxes, as the rendering of the borders and the pushpins for the places are far larger than the errors, at even a large-screen resolution scale. If you blow it up and print it onto A0 (paper size) is is noticeable. Si Trew (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The text labels are fine on my I think 1972 across screen in full view. When I made this I think I had a 1024x768 screen. It's when the labels are all squished they don't scale down properly, and get all scrunched up, I have never quite worked out why. There is a style that governs it, and I tried all sorts of things but none worked. Si Trew (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Pakistan Super League[edit]

Hi again. Thanks for always helping! Need some help again, the Template:Cr-PSL has been nominated TfD per MOS:FLAGS, Please help fixing the template, so that only Template:Cr-PSL/Flags can be deleted, and rest of the template part stays. Thanks again! M. BillooFace-smile.svg 12:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000, normally I would wait until the discussion is over, but this is how you deflag the template. Frietjes (talk) 16:00, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Southern Combination League[edit]

Hi, can you explain what you've done there with the league tables? I'm the editor who updates them and I don't understand what you've done. Thanks, Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:31, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Bretonbanquet, per the links that I provided in my edit summary, the {{fb cl2 team}} and {{fb r}} series of templates are being deleted after they are replaced with Module:Sports table and Module:Sports results. I have a script that semi-automatically converts the old templates to the new modules. if you need help with the new modules, you can feel free to ask me or post a note at WT:FOOTY. Frietjes (talk) 13:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
I can see roughly what you have to do to update a league table but it's so un-user-friendly that I would never bother again. It used to be easy. Can it not wait till the end of the season? Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Bretonbanquet, it was April 2018 when the decision was made to retire the old templates, and once all the articles are converted, the templates will be deleted. once that happens, the any articles still containing the old templates will be completely broken. if you have a complaint about the new format, you should raise the objection at WT:FOOTY. I'm not the one who made the decision. I am just the one who is making sure that everything is converted properly. Frietjes (talk) 13:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
There's patently no point in raising an objection. It's "progress" and I'm just the guy who does the week-to-week work, in fact the only guy for the last few years who has done it for this league and a number of others. Editing is supposed to be fun. Bit by bit, people make sure it's not fun. I know it wasn't your decision to change the templates, but the new format is clunky, counter-intuitive and unpleasant to work on because you can't see the table while you're editing. No benefit whatsoever for the reader. There's absolutely no reason this couldn't have waited till the end of the season. I hope someone else updates the tables in the future; otherwise they'll be permanently out of date, like practically all the other ones I don't do. Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Bretonbanquet, revert my changes if you feel so strongly about it, and I will reconvert it later. but, I don't know what you are going to do next season. Frietjes (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
It seems churlish to revert you because you were only following the directive. I shan't bother next season so it hardly matters. All the best, Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

thumb-fixer script[edit]

Another oddball one is Template:Infobox artist discography that uses |Image= and |Caption=. Not necessarily worth fixing. But I think the script should NOT preserve an existing caption when a new caption has been provided with the "thumbed" image - the old caption is almost always wrong and belongs to a previously deleted image. Can you just delete it. Also, I think you can turn off the "auto-Show changes" now. MB 23:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, I will see if anything can be done for Template:Infobox artist discography, cases like this one are why the current caption is preserved for the user to decide the best option. Frietjes (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
User:MB, I changed the default to preview, but you can change it back to diff by doing this or turn off both diff and preview by setting that variable to 'none'. Frietjes (talk) 13:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Here is another that didn't work: [32] MB 14:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
This is one where it didn't find existing caption =: [33]. MB 04:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Didn't work due to alt=: [34]. MB 03:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

infobox university[edit]

Here is another minor glitch. This template seems to accept |image_name= in addition to |image=, but |caption= is only displayed with |image=. Not sure if image_name should be fully supported or deprecated. Example. MB 23:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, try asking Pkbwcgs who added this feature with this edit. I would think the two parameters would be functionally equivalent. Frietjes (talk) 12:43, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
@MB: There is already a tracking category for pages using both |image= and |image_name= at Category:Instances of Infobox university using both image and image_name. I think that should be cleared out and replaced with |caption= like you have said. I think that |image_name= should be deprecated as it is the same as |caption=. There aren't many uses for |image_name= either. However, I don't know how to go ahead with deprecating a parameter. Pkbwcgs (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
I have updated all articles in that category. Since you agree it should be deprecated but don't know how, maybe Frietjes will do it. MB 17:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
User:MB the image_name parameter is used frequently (Category:Pages using infobox university with the image name parameter) so we can't remove it completely, but you could remove it from the documentation page. Frietjes (talk) 21:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Infobox university II[edit]

I found this article that used both |state= and |province= (with the province being used for a US county) and the result was incorrectly formatted. I fixed it. Suggest tracking these in Category:Pages using infobox university with state and province or maybe Category:Pages using infobox university with syntax errors. MB 14:46, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, there are many state-level parameters and other potential redundant or colliding parameters, see the new list of tracking categories, which may take some time to fill up. Frietjes (talk) 15:44, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I will clean these up. But for the ones where province is being used to list county, do you think I should just delete the county or should we add a county para to be consistent with Infobox school? MB 16:10, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
User:MB, I don't really have a strong opinion. it seems like the county is more frequently relevant for high schools and below since school districts are often aligned with county boundaries. but, I could see this being useful for community colleges as well. I would rather not add it without consensus at template talk:Infobox university. Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Infobox person height[edit]

This article had |height=5'7". Changing to |height=5ft 7in enabled the auto convert to metric. Can/should these be caught in Category:Pages using height with unknown parameters?

MB, that conversion is handled by {{Infobox person/height}} which is different from {{height}}. however, we could probably add some tracking logic in {{Infobox person/height}} to find obvious errors. Frietjes (talk) 14:13, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Module:Unstrip[edit]

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Thanks for Module:Wide image[edit]

Thanks so much for converting {{Wide image}} over to Lua! Over at Commons, the template was having problems parsing specified height (e.g., "x218px"). Instead of trying to patch it with creaky template code, I copied over your Lua and it worked like a charm! Thanks again! —hike395 (talk) 12:15, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Big Brother sidebar[edit]

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Tweak to Template:CFB schedule[edit]

Frietjes, can we make a small tweak to Template:CFB schedule, such that the timezone field doesn't display in the footer unless the time field is populated for at least one of the games in the table? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 18:45, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Jweiss11, should work now after this edit. Frietjes (talk) 18:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks! Jweiss11 (talk) 18:59, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Hangout invitation[edit]

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Request for bot approval[edit]

Hi We are working on a method to share templates and modules across wikis and need bot approvals for the same. Can you please help us in any of the language wikis? Here's the link and the bot is Capankajsmilyo(Talk | Infobox assistance) 02:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Template/Infobox assistance[edit]

Party Leader % Seats ±
Elected in Denmark
Social Democrats Helle Thorning-Schmidt 26.3% 47 +3
DPP Kristian Thulesen Dahl 21.1% 37 +15
Elected in the Faroe Islands
Republic Høgni Hoydal 24.5% 1 +1
Social Democratic Sjúrður Skaale 24.3% 1 0
Elected in in Greenland
Inuit Ataqatigiit Aaja Chemnitz Larsen 38.5% 1 0
Siumut Aleqa Hammond 38.2% 1 0

Hello Freitjes. Do you know how {{Infobox legislative election}} could be modified to allow the results to be split into groups with headers? For example, it would be great if the infobox in 2015 Danish general election could be split into three groups (below the main headers of Party, Leader, etc) with five-column spanning headers "Elected in Denmark", "Elected in the Faroes" and "Elected in Greenland" (hope that makes sense?). See an illustration of what I mean to the left.

It's fairly common to have subsections of seats elected in a slightly different way, so I think it could be helpful to be able to denote this more clearly than by using notes. Cheers, Number 57 15:24, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Number 57, you should be able to use |heading1=, |heading3=, |heading5=, ... now Frietjes (talk) 15:52, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks so much! Number 57 15:53, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Another quick question – I've added the module function to {{Infobox election}} to allow it to embed {{Infobox legislative election}} on articles like this. It all seems to be working fine, except for the fact that the header of the second infobox comes out very small (I've had to add big/bold coding to it to make it appear the same as the main infobox heading. Do you know how this can be sorted out? Cheers, Number 57 20:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Number 57, if I recall, the infobox "title" is simply appended to the top of the box when the box is embedded, without using the |titlestyle=. there are a couple of ways to get styling in there (see method 1 and method 2 in the edit history in the sandbox). I, personally, prefer method 1 (you may need additional values in |abovestyle=), but either one works.
Excellent, thanks! Number 57 21:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Where now with Template:BibISBN?[edit]

Hi Frietjes, I wonder if you could help me. A while back you supported the deletion of the above template and other editors appeared to think this was no problem. Now I have imported it as part of Teufelshörner and, of course, it is a red link instead of the source below which would have automatically displayed before the template was deleted. What is the solution? Is there at least an equivalent template that I can redirect it to?

Looking for some template help[edit]

I'm trying to respond to a query sent in to Wikimedia ticket:2018100310001904

They are trying to add an honorific_suffix in {{Infobox officeholder}}

The relevant article is here:Peter Klinken

That INFOBOX has four entries but only three display.

The one that doesn't display is "CitWA"

I've done a tiny bit of template editing and looked at the code but wasn't able to identify the problem. I'm picking on you because I believe you are one of the more prolific editors of this template.

My guess is that the parameter doesn't simply take and display text, but requires that the entry be some entry in a table somewhere with a link to an article about the honorific.

For example, "FTSE" Displays a link to "Fellow of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering" which is a redirect to "List of Fellows of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering"

My guess is that there is no entry for "CitWA"

I see a discussion of microformat and classes and see "honorific-suffix" mentioned, but I haven't tracked down where the acceptable values might be stored.

If this is something that can be fixed very easily, point me to it and I'll fix it myself. If it's a little bit trickier, the following page Western Australian of the Year Awards, might constitute documentation for "CitWA", specifically the penultimate sentence:

Award recipients may choose to use the post-nominal CitWa after their name. --S Philbrick(Talk) 15:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Sphilbrick the list of valid entries for Australians is in Template:Post-nominals/AUS. Frietjes (talk) 15:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Frietjes, Thanks! S Philbrick(Talk) 16:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Help with translation[edit]

Hi. Recently I have decided to work on a new article and this time I decided to translate the citations myself. I used importScript('User:Frietjes/citetrans.js'); // User:Frietjes/citetrans.js and as you had mentioned before, a "citation translation" option appeared on the tool bar. Yet the problem is that when I used it, I ended up with the original text again. Maybe I'm missing a step or maybe I'm doing it in the wrong order. Should I add the text that you had provided and the article together on User:Keivan.f/common.js and then save the page, or should I just add the text first, choose "citation translation" and then add the article and save it? I'll be glad if you help me figure it out. Keivan.fTalk 01:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Keivan.f, do you have the article open in edit mode when you press the "citation translation" button? Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it was in edit mode when I attempted to do it. And it actually worked a few minutes ago when I tried it again. It was probably me who was doing something wrong. Anyway, it finally worked and made my life much easier. Thank you for your help. This tool is awesome. Keivan.fTalk 18:43, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Sport table[edit]

As you seem to be the main editor on {{#invoke:Sports table}} : I am trying to create a new table module for the forthcoming 2019 Cricket World Cup / {{2019 Cricket World Cup points table}}. I've created a sandbox at {{#invoke:Sandbox/Spikeem/CricketTable/ODI}} (and a parent at {{#invoke:Sandbox/Spikeem/CricketTable}} as I couldn't figure out how else to sandbox it). Once I'm happy with it, can I just move my ODI module to {{#invoke:Sports table/ODI}} or similar? I've created a dummy page at User:Spike 'em/sandbox/CrickTable to use it, but other tips to get this live would be gratefully received! Thanks. Spike 'em (talk) 15:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Spike 'em, yes, you should feel free to move it to {{#invoke:Sports table/ODI}} or whatever subpage name makes sense. checking this diff, it looks like you are doing everything correctly (creating a near direct copy of sports table just to test your submodule). I briefly looked at your ODI submodule and it looks reasonable. at some point, I would like to consolidate the pp.status functions, but we probably need to allow for variation between sports. Frietjes (talk) 16:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I just used the WDL and volleyball styles as a basis for my one and at the moment don't need all the statuses there, but will leave it as is for now. Thanks. Spike 'em (talk) 16:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

WNBA Roster Templates[edit]

Hi Frietjes, I was just wondering how the new template worked. I noticed you edited the template on 2018 WNBA Finals page, but it seems like the template is still copied an pasted into the article to make it appear. Is there a way to just have the template name and 2018 and then that roster will be on the page? Hopefully this makes sense. Swimmer33 (talk) 14:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Swimmer33, I don't think there is a new template yet. my edit was to remove the |template_name= since it was creating VTE links that point to the 2019 roster, which is clearly wrong. when the contents of the roster template is pasted into an article, we need to remove the |template_name= to keep it from pointing to the wrong place. the best way to have the 2018 roster transcluded would be to use {{#section-h:2018 Seattle Storm season|Roster}} which takes the roster section from the team season article. Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Cool! That saves a ton of space. I'll use that in the future. Thanks! Swimmer33 (talk) 15:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)


Hello, a flaw has occurred in the Sports table or Sports table/WDL template in Arabic wiki when I updated it and tried to fix the flaw but could not. At the top of the template on the left of "team" (see here). I do not think the problem is caused by the navbar template. Can you please help me.--Sakiv (talk) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Sakiv, I added white-space:nowrap. is that better? Frietjes (talk) 12:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, thank you so much :)--Sakiv (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding a commented out category to a template[edit]

I noticed you added a commented out category to Template:Panellinios G.S. sections in this edit. It seems likely this is not what you meant to do. Retro (talk | contribs) 23:28, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Infobox South Korean neighborhood[edit]

Template:Infobox South Korean neighborhood - 382 transclusions and the template protected, could you help with replacement? (talk) 20:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Locator map for West Papua[edit]

Hi, I've come across Module:Location map/data/Indonesia West Papua. It's sort of a redirect to Module:Location map/data/Indonesia Western New Guinea, and it makes sense in a way – "West Papua" can be a synonym for Western New Guinea. But it can also mean West Papua (province) (an administrative unit that takes up only a part of Western New Guinea), and this is probably the meaning more likely to be expected by someone who tries to use it as a locator map. I think a template like that can only confuse people, so I reckon it should be best to replace its 20 or so transclusions with direct invocations of Module:Location map/data/Indonesia Western New Guinea and then delete it. What do you think? – Uanfala (talk) 20:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Uanfala, sure. it looks like it was a templatespace redirect which was converted to a modulespace redirect when the templates were converted to modules. Frietjes (talk) 21:00, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
I see. So, is there an easy way to replace and delete it, or would it be better if I start a TfD? – Uanfala (talk) 21:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Uanfala, if you replace all the uses, I will mark the module with {{db-author}}. Frietjes (talk) 21:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Oh thanks, that will be quite convenient. I think I've orphaned it now. – Uanfala (talk) 21:26, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

WNBA rosters[edit]

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Hi, I am wondering what happened. You said you would do this, but first we needed an input format. You rejected my attempt as "verbose." You asked me to choose one of two outcomes from your talk page which I did. If you can't follow through now, then please withdraw and we'll have to let this project drop. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

will work on it tomorrow. Frietjes (talk) 12:13, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Category:Infobox NFL biography with disambiguated name has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Ways to improve 2004 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Module:Testcase table[edit]

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Discussion of link language wrapper templates (June 2019)[edit]

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Spurs template[edit]

Why are you removing the nav template from the Tottenham season articles, can you please put them all back. This is very disruptive and very annoying that you are removing them. Govvy (talk) 10:32, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Govvy, there is a reason why there are two navboxes (one for season articles, and one for non-season articles). if we wanted both navboxes on every page, we won't need to have two. see WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. Frietjes (talk) 12:43, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

? That makes no sense and it's now becoming extremely inconvenient to me for navigation. Govvy (talk) 14:34, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Module:Sports overview[edit]

Hey, I've looked through the docs of Module:Sports table, but couldn't be sure. Can the table layout provided by Module:Sports overview and Template:Fb overview be done with Sports Table? --Gonnym (talk) 09:03, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Gonnym, not at the moment. it may be possible to create a style for Module:Sports table that mimics Module:Sports overview, but as far as I know, that hasn't been done. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Help expanding sidebar[edit]

Can you take a look at Template:NBA Awards when you get a chance? It seems that 16 items are defined under "individual awards", but only 14 are displayed. I tried tweaking the underlying Template:Sidebar or footer, but had no luck. I'm even less proficient with modules to see if that's where the limitation is. Thanks in advance.—Bagumba (talk) 16:32, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Bagumba, should work now. I have updated the code to use a LUA module with no hard limits on the number of items. Frietjes (talk) 12:55, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks!—Bagumba (talk) 04:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Other templates to merge[edit]

Can you help?

Thanks! Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

okay, I am working on it. Frietjes (talk) 13:51, 19 June 2019 (UTC)