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I want to move to include items in said Harrisburg, PA article that do not include those entries with Wikipedia articles, unless you more clearly communicate what your side is.Bdavid1111 (talk) 18:33, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

@Bdavid1111: My "side" is that people who do not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines do not belong in lists of notable people in other articles, including Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Read the message I left on your Talk page, and the various policies found at links at the top of this page. Is there anything unclear about this communication? General Ization Talk 00:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Also, as I advised you, Ben Foshager has been determined not to meet those guidelines. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Foshager. General Ization Talk 00:19, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I also strongly suspect that you are Ben (Ben D) Foshager. Consequently, please read WP:COI and WP:AUTO. General Ization Talk 00:22, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


I'm afraid I have ruined your clean block log. I meant to block User:CharlesGallon, who you reverted at AN/TPS-43, but I clicked the wrong link and ended up blocking you instead. Of course I immediately unblocked as soon as I realized it, but your formerly empty block log is now blemished by my mistake. I'm sorry. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:03, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

@Edgar181: Ah, well, it was bound to happen eventually. Such is the life of a rollbacker. Face-grin.svg Thanks for the heads-up and the explanation. General Ization Talk 00:16, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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Ecstasy (film)

Original name is "Extase" (old czech spelling). The new one is "Extáze". The spelling "Ekstase" doesn't exist.
Zedzed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zedzed (talkcontribs) 19:41, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Zedzed: I can cite numerous references that show the original film title used a spelling of Ekstase, which is described as German. You cited no references for your changes. It doesn't matter whether the spelling "exists" in any other form if that's the spelling the director/studio used, and it appears that it is. Unless you cite references, do not make this change or I will warn you again, and if you persist you may be blocked from editing. General Ization Talk 20:34, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

De La Salle Collegiate revert

Hello General... I am not as veteran as you as an editor. Was simply correcting the official name of De La Salle Collegiate. The words "high school" are redundant. I refer you to De La Salle Institute in Chicago and St. Joseph's Collegiate Institute in Tonawanda, NY. Both are high schools. Neither uses high school in the school's official name. Just thought Wikipedia should be accurate. Thanks. OneRing21 (talk) 01:46, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

The school can style itself any way it likes, but it is a high school and the name under which it is accredited is De La Salle Collegiate High School. General Ization Talk 01:51, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
By the way; the word "institute" is a noun. The word "collegiate" is an adjective, one that in this case refers to the noun "high school", whether stated or implied. General Ization Talk 02:20, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Want to help test advanced new tools planned for Recent Changes?

Hi General Ization! I’m reaching out to you because our logs tell us you’re a very active Twinkle user (top 25, actually!). The WMF Collaboration team is working on new tools that we hope will be useful to people engaged in reviewing recent changes, fighting vandalism or supporting new users. We want to test them for usability with editors who are experienced with relevant wiki work. If you’re interested in helping to shape this new technology—we’d like to hear from you.

The testing should take about an hour, will be conducted online, and will take place during the next few weeks. To participate, please email dchen[at] with the subject line Twinkle User. Include the following information:

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  • Your primary use of Twinkle or Recent Changes (e.g., reviewing recent changes, reviewing with a particular focus (specify), anti-vandalism, new-page review, welcoming new users, etc.)

Thanks! Dchen (WMF) (talk) 18:03, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Maddie Ziegler

The edit-warror is back. I reverted them, but please watch the page. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:31, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


I got an edit conflict with your edit - when I was trying to make exactly the same edit. Not sure that's happened to me before! Fences&Windows 19:51, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Nice working with you on that article (& that word...)

Flaming cocktails-(small)-for-Handy-Desktop.jpg Cheers!
Here's looking at you -
Shearonink (talk) 20:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

force awakens edits

Star Wars: The Force Awakens (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm confused about the deletion of my edits and the need for citation. The edits I made come from the movie itself. You can clearly see her relation to Darth Sidious based on the way she fights with a lightsaber, her accent not being changed, and her use of the dark side. It would be similar to describing the plot of the movie itself. Iamtheknowledge (talk) 01:09, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

@Iamtheknowledge: That is your interpretation of what you saw in the movie. There may be other interpretations, and the fact that there are "fan theories" to that effect (per the link you cited in your edit summary, but not inline with your added content) does not permit us to state it as canon in the Cast section of the article, as you have attempted to do. "Fan theories" have been known to be inconsistent in the past with what the writers of a screenplay intended. General Ization Talk 01:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)


I realize that you are passionate about articles but try not to revert every single edit you disagree with from any source, and AGF. You seem to be violating the 3RR rule based on some of your reverts. Thanks. :-) (talk) 04:58, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

I am not reverting every edit I disagree with, and you have no reason to assume I am failing to assume good faith (and you are apparently failing to give me the same courtesy). Your edit wasn't constructive, in that it was unnecessary (obviously the arrest was of an alleged perpetrator, that would be the only reason for an arrest) and also was in title case rather than in sentence case as expected of headings. Please read WP:3RR before you start throwing around accusations, as otherwise you may find yourself on the wrong side of an argument. Thanks. General Ization Talk 05:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Well these type of discussions are certainly constructive and belong on the articles talk page since they help foster mutual understanding, which is a very good thing. Perhaps you may want to take the time to talk to any other interested editors about some of your views by posting some of these issues on the article talk page. :-) (talk) 05:13, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Specifically which edits are you suggesting would be better discussed on the Talk page? And what views are you referring to, since you seem to have inferred that I have some POV? General Ization Talk 05:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Why, your views about the perpetrator of the shooting of course, and all available information. BLP is of course a very serious matter and making certain the article is factual and well sourced is certainly a good thing and " ... I am not reverting every edit I disagree with, and you have no reason to assume I am failing to assume good faith (and you are apparently failing to give me the same courtesy). Your edit wasn't constructive ... is not assuming good faith. (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps you should consider this: the repeated assertion that a person is a Muslim without citation of a reliable source for that information is a violation of WP:BLP. "Contentious material about living persons ... that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." Other than my revert of your edit (and another that effectively declared the case solved before the suspect has even been charged), this is the only content that I have reverted, and is the only content I have reverted more than once. General Ization Talk 05:23, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
My statement that your edit was not constructive doesn't mean I assume you made it in bad faith. It simply means (as I said) that I felt it was unnecessary because it restated the obvious and was (as it happens) improperly formatted. General Ization Talk 05:23, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Ariana Grande

Please review the last couple edits at Ariana Grande by a mutual friend of ours, Luk.... Feel free to also add to the Talk page discussion about it. Please let me know if you need me to review anything of yours. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


Please be careful when you call things "vandalism". When a new contributor's article is PRODded, and then he removes it and adds a note about how there's no need to tag his article for deletion, that's not vandalism. Misguided, yes, but hardly vandalism. And calling it "vandalism" can lead to hurt feelings. DS (talk) 04:13, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

@DragonflySixtyseven: Thanks for the feedback, but it'd be helpful when you critique another editor's performance if you'd include a diff so they know what the devil you're talking about. As it is, I have none. General Ization Talk 12:12, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
I've reviewed my warning at Arbiritrary's Talk page and the editor's surviving edits, e.g., this and this and their edit filter log, and I stand by my warning to that editor who was engaged in a pattern of unconstructive editing and vandalism. I'm frankly not too worried if my warning upset them; their vandalism upsets me. General Ization Talk 12:18, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Edits to three articles. Two nonconstructive, one constructive -- and that's the one on which you criticized them for vandalism. (And I can't point it to you precisely because it's been deleted!) Just be a bit more careful. DS (talk) 13:26, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

none of your edit guidelines apply to the edit that you reverted, please be more specific

As noted in my edit to,_Ontario, I updated the name of the company after acquisition. Clearly your comment when you reverted the edit was inaccurate. Please either revert your reversion, or provide an accurate and valid objection to my edit.

Lwinger (talk) 17:48, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

@Lwinger: Look at your edit and tell me again how it is that you claim that all you were doing was updating a company name. Your edit removed over 25k of article content, replacing it with a non-existent template and copyrighted content from this site. I will most certainly not revert my reversion, and if you perform a similar edit in the future you will find it is also reverted. General Ization Talk 18:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

ok, sorry

Ok, sorry, thanks for your help, I don't understand how that happened, or where the version of the page that I was editing came from in the first place. The only edit that I made was to change "Magnum Semiconductor" to "GigPeak", but somehow I cannot even find the original page that I was editing in the history of the article. Sorry. Lwinger (talk) 18:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


@Callmemirela: Because I though your edit summary response to the blowhard was brilliant. Face-grin.svg General Ization Talk 17:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

;P Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 17:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
No, have not worked with them before, but I have some questions about their recent arrival v/v their supposed fluency in policies and perhaps the existence of some previous accounts . General Ization Talk 17:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
What's v/v? I hate abbreviations, so my apologies. After two months online, I have the same concerns. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 17:23, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Vis-à-vis (or Vice versa, I meant the former). General Ization Talk
Oh, okay. I'm suspicious, but I don't want to cause a ruckus when I might not be coming in with clean hands, depending how a user sees the situation, and I don't have significant proof. Thoughts? Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 23:00, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
I made some comments on the editor's Talk page earlier today. General Ization Talk 23:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
I hadn't noticed. Thank you! Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 23:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

And there is no place with the proper name "Central Georgia"...

First of all, Sir, That is not at all how you are to come to me about an issue. Second, I was born and raised in this beautiful state and if I want to capitalize the "c" in Central then dammit I will and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Arrogant Bastard

66derfav (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)66derfav 11/2/16

@66derfav: You are free to write the name of your state or anything else just as you like it, but you are not entitled to do so here on Wikipedia. Post such an attack again on my, or any other editor's, Talk page here on Wikipedia and you will be blocked from editing. Am I understood? General Ization Talk 18:33, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Paint 'n Sip vs. Paint and Sip

I am new to wikipedia and it's all very confusing to a new user so please be patient with me if I do something wrong.

I am going to assert that this *is* my trademark, though no longer registered as you pointed out. I am the first to use it and it is still in use in my business. It is not the generic and I spend much of my time and money fighting this.

What is the appeal process? Paintnsip (talk) 22:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Answered on your Talk page. General Ization Talk 22:33, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

November 2016

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is POV pushing IP on Jimmy Page. Thank you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


Please be sure to read the big, red box on the ANI edit page. Thanks. :) Mike VTalk 23:00, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

@Mike V: Yes, I know better, having recently complained about someone else who committed the same oversight at AN/I. General Ization Talk 23:26, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


My bad, sorry, I thought I was in sandbox mode lol, I didn't mean to edit the actual page — Preceding unsigned comment added by No-life1231 (talkcontribs) 01:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@No-life1231: Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, though I doubt. Please see Competence is required. General Ization Talk 01:41, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

I am brand new to this, give me a break. — Preceding unsigned comment added by No-life1231 (talkcontribs) 01:45, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@No-life1231: Trust me, I just did. General Ization Talk 01:46, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Your message is duly notes, sorry for the misunderstand!

Your message is duly notes, sorry for the misunderstand! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonolester (talkcontribs) 06:42, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Roxanne Shanté

Hey General Ization, I saw you deleted what i wrote on the the article of Roxanne Shante (In hindsight I understand, I wasnt careful enough in using my own words), but I am confused, as it appears, you have put it back on?! I was just wondering wether my edits were ok or not, so I can do it better next time. Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponylakritz (talkcontribs) 16:45, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@Ponylakritz: I initially thought you had copied the entire addition verbatim from AllMusic, and I certainly found a few direct matches and close paraphrasing, but on further review it appeared that you had at least attempted to make the text your own and that there were multiple sources for your added information. So I reverted my removal. If you could put a little more work into the copy to make sure it isn't mistaken by others for a copyright violation, that would be a good thing. Sorry for the (later retracted) warning. General Ization Talk 16:50, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
@General Ization: Thanks for the fast reply! I was about to edit it some more and use more of my own language, I just wanted to make sure I know what my mistakes were! Thanks a lot.

Hi there

Hatnote, this is the first time I have seen this. Its wonderful and soothing.

As a master editor what would you say on how to expand existing articles or contribute new articles without getting into conflicts. - The process from scratch what all tools and methods could be used. I know googlebooks could be a non-conflictual source in general... (talk) 21:29, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


YOU REMOVE IT............ L.S. inc. (talk) 21:45, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@L.S. inc.: What are you referring to, please? General Ization Talk 21:48, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
If you're referring to this edit, please review the edit summary for an explanation of why the change was made. General Ization Talk 21:50, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
You seem to be asking for help in constructing an article. Please don't reject it when you get it. General Ization Talk 21:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@L.S. inc.: Ok, then! Happy editing. General Ization Talk 21:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Draft:List of manufacturers of model trains

L.S. inc. (talk) 22:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Problem at 2016 Ohio State University attack

We have an editor who's persistently trying to categorize the article as an Islamic terrorist attack, despite the talk page discussion. I've already wasted my three reverts and am definitely not going to shoot for a fourth. I need some help here... Parsley Man (talk) 03:05, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

@Parsley Man: Sorry, been offline for a while, addressing some RL matters. The editor seems to have settled down for a bit ... I'll keep an eye on it and jump in if he resumes. Aside from EW, it can and should be pointed out that he is operating against consensus as well as policy. General Ization Talk 04:04, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Well, actually, he reverted my third reversion and it's been left unchallenged. That's the problem. Parsley Man (talk) 04:08, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Oh, actually, I saw what you did. Thank you. Also, no problem for being offline. We've all got stuff to do besides Wikipedia. Parsley Man (talk) 04:10, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
I've already reverted. I was looking for the application of a category rather than the addition of a See also that implies that the attack was an act of Islamic terrorism, which is a little less explicit but equally inappropriate. General Ization Talk 04:11, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
My apologies, I said "categorization" but was feeling a little tired and didn't know how else to explain it. My bad. Parsley Man (talk) 04:15, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes, been a long day. Apologies for our dust-up earlier over how and when to report the official statement on the number of perpetrators (though I still maintain I was right and you were wrong - Face-grin.svg). General Ization Talk 04:18, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Nah, it's okay. I'm over it. :) Parsley Man (talk) 04:22, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

He did it again. Parsley Man (talk) 08:17, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

And with four reversions under his belt, he has been reported to WP:AN3RR. Parsley Man (talk) 08:29, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Universidad Empresarial edition

My dear friend I am not engaged on an edit warring I spent countless hours researching, and spent 2 hours writting an article, and someone, erase it at once. that is not been a fair use, as editor. It is supposed we must contribute. Were my writting inapropiate? was not actual information, with reliable sources? Taesulkim (talk) 17:11, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

@Taesulkim: Perhaps you should read our policies and other guidance before you spend another two hours. I am not responsible for your wasting your time preparing content that was indeed inappropriate and not encyclopedic. And you need to read the definition of edit warring, which was indeed what you were doing. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing. General Ization Talk 17:15, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I think God was in heaven!! Do not worry, block me at once. I wont spent my time, with people of such short capability. By the way, I am native Japanesse speaker. Be my guest and block me from now on. Thank for wasting my time!!Taesulkim (talk) 17:21, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

@Taesulkim: If you are interested in requesting a self-block, as opposed to respecting Wikipedia's editing policies and guidelines, please see WP:BLOCKME. Alternatively, you could actually think about what you are doing and spend some time reading those policies. General Ization Talk 17:25, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Can you please take a look to I quote: AC.CR Domains Academic: colleges, universities, research entities that have academic and/or research objectives. In the case of government-sponsored state institutions they shall have to be certified by CONARE, and private academic institutions shall have to be certified by CONESUP. (National Council on Private Higher Education).

Can you please take a look to I quote: AC.CR Domains Academic: colleges, universities, research entities that have academic and/or research objectives. In the case of government-sponsored state institutions they shall have to be certified by CONARE, and private academic institutions shall have to be certified by CONESUP. (National Council on Private Higher Education).

So, the website is Taesulkim (talk) 21:55, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Please read the link, below

under 1.5 Documentation needed to register a domain name

The required documents for Domain Name registration are:

A legal entity certification for the institution, issued no more than one month before. A letter from the domain’s legal representative requesting the domain. A copy of the legal representative’s national ID card. Post-graduate centers and research institutions should present a copy of their legal charter document. Private universities should present a copy of the legal recognition document issued by the CONESUP. State-run universities should present a copy of the legal recognition document issued by the CONARE

What else do you need?? Please clarify, since unless the institutios has CONESUP approval, it can not get and domain

So, the website is (talk) 21:57, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

@Taesulkim: Please continue the discussion at Talk:Universidad Empresarial de Costa Rica#University website. Do not continue to revert to your preferred version until consensus is established. General Ization Talk 18:14, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

@GeneralIzation You requested reliable sources, and now UNESCO WHED listing seems not to please you... In my opinio, there is something behind of this, that you do not want to be edited, although all data has been presented. Taesulkim (talk) 18:20, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

@Taesulkim: You can believe whatever you want. Decisions about content are made here by consensus and taking into consideration reliable sources that support the content, not based on your opinions. If you are able to convince your fellow editors to support the change by continuing the discussion on the article's Talk page, then it should be made. Otherwise, and until that consensus is established, it will not. Please also read Assume good faith, a basic principle of Wikipedia which you have just violated. General Ization Talk 18:27, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Walt Disney


My edits to the Walt Disney page were common knowledge. I added to the page something along the lines of this in the beginning synopsis of the article. "Some of the things he is known for is Mickey Mouse along with the first full-length animated feature Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". How is this not allowed? It is common knowledge that Walt created Mickey Mouse and he, along with his studio, created the animated feature Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. This was simply giving people who are trying to learn about him a few examples of his greatest work and in my opinion furthers the article. So please tell me what was wrong with that. 19disneyland55 (talk) 18:18, 5 November 2016 (UTC) 19Disneyland55, November 5, 2016.

@19disneyland55: What you actually added was "Today he is known as possibly the greatest entertainer of all time. This can be seen through how the movies and characters he created, most notably Mickey Mouse, are recognized and cherished by people all over the world." Known by whom? This is not a statement of fact, but an opinion. It doesn't matter whether others may share your opinion. This or any other statement that something is "the greatest" or "is recognized and cherished by people all over the world", without a cited source, is unverifiable and is what is called original research on Wikipedia, and is not permitted. See also Puffery. You then followed with "Today, the company he founded, now known as the Walt Disney Company, continues what he started as has grown to be the largest media conglomerate in the world." Once again, this is a statement that requires citation, as it is an assertion regarding the superiority and/or relative size of a company which is not "common knowledge" (in fact, it is demonstrably false – Comcast is #1 in terms of revenue; see also Media conglomerates) and should not be assumed to be correct without documentation that supports it. Walt Disney's notability for the creation of Mickey Mouse and SW&SD is already very well documented in the article, and does not require that you point it out in the lead. Perhaps most importantly, when your edits are challenged by another editor, you should attempt to discuss them either on their Talk page, your Talk page or the article's Talk page, not persistently make the same or similar changes, even if you think your changes are fine. Doing so is called edit warring and can result in your being blocked from editing. Please let me know if you have other questions. General Ization Talk 21:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
In addition, this statement already appears at the end of the lead: "Nevertheless, Disney is considered an international cultural icon, particularly in the United States, where the company he co-founded exists today as one of the world's largest and best-known entertainment companies" (with a link to an article that contains citations for the latter claim). Your addition to the lead was completely redundant with the the existing contents of the lead, and hence unnecessary. General Ization Talk 21:51, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
For starters, it was a typo. I meant to put "one of the largest media conglomerates in the world". I know Comcast is the largest. Second off, the lead should probably mention that he created Mickey Mouse and the first full length animated feature, considering these were his most important achievements and pretty essential information. Far more important than the number of academy awards he has, which seems to be what you have up for the lead. Thirdly, all of what I put down is common knowledge, with taking in account the typo I made. Common knowledge does not need to be cited in books, academic and research papers, etc. Everyone knows Walt Disney was responsible for Snow White and the seven dwarfs and Mickey Mouse. Therefore, it's common knowledge. Everyone knows that Disney is one of the largest media conglomerates in the world, therefore its common knowledge, and it is pretty well known that Walt Disney is one of the greatest entertainers of all time. Look at the company that's been built around his work. So therefore, once again, common knowledge and really not even opinion. Also, how did you get jurisdiction over this page and why does Wikipedia give you all this power? What do you know about Walt Disney that allows you to make decisions regarding the page? Plus, if you look at the other stuff on your talk page, you are so rude and harsh and nasty to others. Maybe you should try being nice for a change. 19disneyland55 (talk) 01:37, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@19disneyland55: You asked me to explain why your edits were reverted, and I have done so. If the edits are repeated, and if they continue to violate Wikipedia's policies concerning verifiability and original research, they will be reverted again. It isn't what I know about Walt Disney that qualifies me to make these decisions; it's what I know, as a 10+ year editor and a rollbacker, about Wikipedia's policies, which are published and available here and at multiple links within my response above for you to review. It will probably save us both a great deal of time if you will do so. General Ization Talk 01:56, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@19disneyland55: Between the stunt with the self-awarded barnstars and the sockpuppetry, I assume this is the end of our discusssion. Good luck. General Ization Talk 18:32, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

───────────────────────── My apologies, I didn't realise you'd picked up a typo in your recent edit -- tks for your stewardship of this article! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:19, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

What's wrong

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What is it that is wrong that I am doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:51, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

See WP:BURDEN. Please stop adding unsourced content to articles here. General Ization Talk 16:53, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

There was a sorced article there and you cleared it off, but there is no reason as to why (talk) 16:57, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

You mean this removal? That wasn't me, but the reverting editor did indeed provide the reason in the summary, and I agree with them that this is not a reliable source. Without a reliable source, the statement cannot be added. General Ization Talk 17:01, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

So you want me to find another reliable source is that right? (talk) 17:05, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I want you to not add content that is not reliably sourced. General Ization Talk 17:07, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

That's if I try to make sure I know it's okay with it, because if I try to add a unreliable article, I might get in that bath with hot sause (talk) 17:14, 27 November 2016 (UTC) I don't want to make a mess if you're trying to hubris with me (talk) 17:30, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

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List of drug-related deaths

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The drug Emetine poisoned her heart so it could be drug related — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forrest Lesak (talkcontribs) 23:23, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Forrest Lesak: Your theory that Karen Carpenter's death "could be" drug related is not enough. A source that says that emetine is a drug or that it can kill does not mean or say that it killed Karen Carpenter. Theories that are unsourced are called original research here and are not permitted. Given that the medical examiner ruled that Carpenter's death was not drug-related, your claim that it is defies existing sourced content, and therefore her death will not be listed at List of drug-related deaths. None of this is news to you as we have been discussing this since at least May 2016. If you continue to add it despite this explanation, it will be treated as disruptive editing and you will likely be blocked from editing. General Ization Talk 00:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Maybe the results that i put down isnt enough to cause death but still it may or may not be soft of drug related as i read in an article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forrest Lesak (talkcontribs) 05:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

@Forrest Lesak: Once again, "may or may not" is completely useless in the context of an encyclopedic article. We do not deal in possibilities but in facts, as reported by reliable sources. Please drop the stick. General Ization Talk 05:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
@Forrest Lesak: Do it one more time and I will see that you are blocked for disruptive editing. If you want to take a chance on my not being serious, test me. General Ization Talk 03:23, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

You Hate me don't you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forrest Lesak (talkcontribs) 02:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Latest Karen Carpenter

Ref the latest addition of KC to the Drug Related Death page, I checked the guy's cites and the seemed to be legit. Why did you remove it again? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 04:04, 5 December 2016 (UTC) Because he hates me

900 seconds

Hi, the SKY News source quotes Hamilton as saying "15 minutes", and so does The Guardian, two sources I find much more reliable than the tabloid Express. That's why I went for the "15 minutes". (Also, as an aside, the correct phrase is "15 minutes of fame" so it's a bit unlikely that an Englishman would say "quarter of an hour of fame".) Cheers, Yintan  15:39, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Yintan: The "quarter of an hour" quote appears in The Telegraph. I don't think you can predict the phrasing used by an Englishman who had been living in France for more than 50 years. The idiom is indeed "15 minutes of fame", but he may well have used "quarter of an hour" for dramatic effect. We cannot say what is a "correct" quote unless we follow reliable sources that report the quote, and I'd say the Telegraph trumps SKY News. General Ization Talk 15:46, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
The Guardian says "15 minutes" too. Does my newspaper beat up your newspaper? Face-wink.svg Yintan  15:48, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard

@General_Ization Just to let you know I applied for a Dispute Resolution Taesulkim (talk) 20:59, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

@General_Ization Can you please leave some feedback on the Talk page, if you agree to display either (As listed on UNESCO WHED) or since none is either agree or disagree in the talk page. Also notice the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PolandMEC as been concluded. Sorry for any wrong approach. I do not intend to be unpolite. Taesulkim (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Please note that the SPI has not been concluded. The CU's research is only one step in a sockpuppet investigation. In this case, because of the age of and lack of any recent usage by the other accounts, the CU's results are inconclusive. An admin will evaluate the edits, usage history and other evidence and will determine what if any action will be taken. General Ization Talk 21:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

–Reversion of my edit to article on Christina Ricci

Thanks, General Ization, for notification of reversion. I was concerned that your reversion would restore what was previously displaying on my screen (both desktop and mobile), i.e. an incorrect hyphen joining the last word of one clause to the first word of the next clause, thus creating the incorrect and impossible compound word "hits-to" and ruining the sense of the whole sentence. That is what I had tried to correct.

In fact your "reversion" has left the article as I intended it in the first place, with an n-dash between spaces rather than a hyphen. I'm not sure why your method (–, created with & + ndash + ;) is better than my method ( – ), and I don't know why your method didn't work first time round (which I can assure you it didn't), before I edited the article, but at least it now works – which is obviously what we both want. (I just put in that n-dash my way. Is this bad practice?)

So I promise I wasn't vandalizing or doing anything untoward!

Thanks again, and take care.

Neil (London) (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


"Please use the encyclopedic voice when editing Wikipedia. The encyclopedia does not exclaim "At long last" about the Cubs' championship. We report facts here, not opinions."

How is that an opinion? They had not won in 108 years. It most certainly is "At long last." By those standards, "The Idiots" ought to be removed from the history section of the Boston Red Sox article that talks about the 2004 team. NBA2030 (talk) 21:54, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

@NBA2030: As you're no doubt well aware, the use of "The Idiots" to refer to the Boston Red Sox has nothing to do with Wikipedia (and is well explained in the article). "At long last" is an exclamation that something is overdue. That is an opinion; one that many Cubs fans may agree with, but nevertheless an opinion. My advice to you stands. General Ization Talk 21:59, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
My apologies. I won't change the title anymore. NBA2030 (talk) 22:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

United States presidential election, 2016

Elected President is used in all the other United States presidential election, Year articles. Why make 2016 different? GoodDay (talk) 03:34, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

@GoodDay: See President-elect of the United States. I can't account for those other articles, but the correct title for someone elected to be POTUS who has not yet taken office is President-elect. They cease being President-elect and become President when they are inaugurated. "Elected President" is what every President becomes, at any time after their election, both before and after they take office. It does not express the temporary nature of the office and their very limited powers prior to inauguration. General Ization Talk 03:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
@GoodDay: Also see Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which uses the term (which has since come to be written with a hyphen), and 18 U.S. Code § 3056 - Powers, authorities, and duties of United States Secret Service for an example of how the President-elect is referred to in Federal regulations. General Ization Talk 03:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
The idea of the infobox is to show who got elected President. Not to place a 'title' on them. Anyways, I have a discussion about this at the article talkpage. GoodDay (talk) 03:59, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
@GoodDay:The idea of the posttitle field (which is the field at issue) of Infobox election is "Title of the victor of the election (President-elect, Prime Minister-designate...), only if different than before." per Template:Infobox election. Please note the examples given. General Ization Talk 04:02, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
That's not how we've got it done at United States presidential election, 2012, United States presidential election, 2008, etc etc. We need consistency. GoodDay (talk) 04:04, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
@GoodDay: Yes, and it is possible to be consistently wrong; that doesn't make it right. You have others telling you the same thing on the article's Talk page. General Ization Talk 04:07, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
If you check the infoboxes of the elected senators, governors etc etc. You'll notice that they use Elected Senator & Elected Governor etc, instead of Senator-elect & Governor-elect. GoodDay (talk) 04:10, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Please see Talk:United States presidential election, 2016#Infobox: Elected President or President-elect?. It is silly for us to debate this in two places simultaneously. General Ization Talk 04:17, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Cheeseburger.png Thank you for defending my talk page! Scjessey (talk) 02:58, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Lily-Rose Depp. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. MPS1992 (talk) 23:30, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@MPS1992: Precisely what content are you referring to? General Ization Talk 23:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Precisely this content. MPS1992 (talk) 23:33, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
And precisely what problem do you have with this source? General Ization Talk 23:35, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Take it to WP:RSN and you'll find out. MPS1992 (talk) 23:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
No thanks, I'm perfectly happy with it as it is. General Ization Talk 23:41, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

You are at 4RR right now on that article, where you should not be edit-warring at all (you also claim to be well aware of WP:BLP). Would you like to self-revert? I am sure your intentions are good, so it would seem unproductive for the encyclopedia, not to give you a chance to do so. MPS1992 (talk) 23:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

No, I think I'll take my chances that a WP:BOOMERANG is an extremely likely outcome at WP:AN3. General Ization Talk 23:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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Gold star for you!

You're so kind! Amaury (talk | contribs) 04:12, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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