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Did you know ... that Richard Strauss reportedly composed "Traum durch die Dämmerung" ("Dream in the Twilight"), on a love poem by Otto Julius Bierbaum, in 20 minutes?
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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Gerda Arendt, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Graham Waterhouse, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted. ... --> Again, welcome! Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Go Gerda Girl[edit]

You do great work and I love it! Don't let Tony get to you. Ihre Arbeit ist grossartig. Weiter schreiben, eien lange Zeit. PS, I really liked the article about the church the communists blew up. BarkingMoon (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC) Sehr geehrte Gerda, I have a watch on your page since a few weeks ago. I approved and moved 167 to holding for June 24.BarkingMoon (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Keine Problem. Koennen Sie ueberpruefen DYK Noel F. Parrish? Danke. BarkingMoon (talk) 12:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Later, yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
See my talk page. Thanks so much! BarkingMoon (talk) 11:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg On 30 December 2011 the article became a GA, thanks to Ched, PumpkinSky and MathewTownsend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Flowers and sapphires[edit]

Flowers![edit]

Vincent Willem van Gogh 121.jpg Wonderful comment
For your wonderful comment, cutting right to the heart of the matter! cmadler (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

For a true gem of a person ...[edit]

Cornflower blue Yogo sapphire.jpg words of reason and trust
To quote you: Thank you for speaking up with decency and fairness, treating editors as living people, — Ched :  ?  15:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

almost forgot one thing[edit]

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For being one of the nicest people I know, on-Wiki or off. 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC) (Khazar)

Cherry Impact event barnstar[edit]

Cherry crashing into primordial Earth2.png The Cherry Impact Event Award
I hereby award Gerda Arendt this Cherry Impact Event Award for the global impact your incredibly delightful sweetness and extraordinary talent brings to all of us!

. Dreadstar 07:01:00, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Standing Strong[edit]

TurnulChindiei.jpg When the Ill Winds Blow No Good
I saw this image and thought of you and all you've done to help PS and Khazar. You are a bastion of refuge when the storm clouds come in, and I for one would like to thank you. Don't worry about people talking behind your back - as they say, "sticks and stones". Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

uh, a tree for you[edit]

Pamje nga Desivojca.jpg Tree award? These have to be "awards"?
Hi, Gerda. I was editing Desivojca, and it has this nice tree photo from the "Komani neighborhood", so I figured it should be seen more. Enjoy. Alarbus (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I do, I love trees! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Team Barnstar Hires.png The Teamwork Barnstar
Thank you so much for your help fixing up "Move Like This"! Your kindness and expertise is greatly appreciated! 28bytes (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! My pleasure, for a change: „Keep on Knocking“, „Sad Song“, „Free“, „Drag on Forever“, „Just What I Needed“ - just what I needed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence[edit]

Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence.gif The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence
I am pleased to award this MBE to you in recognition of your outstanding work on Wikipedia. Your numerous DYKs have achieved the noble goal of highlighting culture on the Main Page. Your work with other users is exemplary, and you're one of the nicest Wikipedians, always supporting and encouraging other users. Thanks for all of your superb contributions! MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! - I was tempted to say "Blushing", but every time I say so the user is gone a week later, I don't want to miss you also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
ps: I would like to share this award with my br'er Rabbit, the incarnation of selfless service to this project ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Your not saying it seems to have worked – it's been a week and I'm still here! I just finished my latest article (my first in a long time). It's about an artist who was born and raised in Germany and was very interested in music. For some reason, that made me think of you.... MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 22:01, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
I didn't say it, as much as I was tempted! - Thanks for staying with me, and for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Knock on wood, as I blushed as well recently ;) Muggeseggele is still facing extinction while the Mans parking was guided so well to DYK by our fairy maiden - Glückauf Serten (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
You found #1, I blushed three more times, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

First ever Wiki Angel Award[edit]

Christmas-Angel-Decoration.jpg The Wiki Angel Award
Gerda, es macht mich glücklich, dir den ersten Wiki Angel Award geben. Du bist ein true Wiki Angel und feine Dame.PumpkinSky talk 18:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
  • This is awesome ... wish I would have thought of it. :) — Ched :  ?  18:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!!! (blushing again, see above) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

... I'd make a Wikilove thingy ...[edit]

... with a pretty picture, but I'm lazy so instead you'll have to settle for text" Barnstar

Hi Gerda,

I saw your note on my talk page. Thanks for the kind words, and for being so refreshingly pleasant and un-bitter all the time. An inspiration to us all. I'm sure I'll see you around eventually, but probably won't be for a while yet. Enjoying my time away. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I enjoy refreshing apparitions, also I am in a good mood, after singing Bach for more than two hours, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

nice edit notice ;)[edit]

A Halloween present from Wikipediocracy on my eighth anniversary. Best wishes. Mads Lange (talk) 09:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

free popcorn

'tis the season

nice comment, peace maker - I pass free treats today, Reformation, even the Bach cantata got a pumpkin + I like sharing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
peace GA ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG I'm not by there very often, but today I saw the recent kerfluffle at AN/I and thought you could use some sweets. Lest you think this is all selfless, though, I brought a second fork. Care to split it? -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, sweet of you, - I would share with Andy first if his doctors allow. Day by day I hope the thread autoarchives (havn't looked today), - I am sure his doctors allow no stress ;) . Did you see the list of 18 discussions "drowning" a project? - Everybody who takes an unbiased look is welcome to share the baklava! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Infobox request[edit]

Work your magic, if you have a few minutes: A Song for Simeon.--ColonelHenry (talk) 23:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Done. Did you know that Simeon is among my images? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes clarification request archived[edit]

Hi Gerda, the infoboxes clarification request in which you were named as a party has been closed and archived. The Committee clarified that acting on behalf of a restricted user to breach a restriction is WP:PROXYING and so is not permitted. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:39, 30 October 2013 (UTC) ───────────────────────── WP:PROXYING, which is a policy says "Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits" (my emphasis). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Jahrhundertring[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 17:17, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Really glad to see this cultural milestone make it into the encyclopedia and onto the front page too. Well done! Whiteghost.ink (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, see my memories :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

nothing secret here[edit]

Hello Gerda, nice to meet you. Are you really the Notorious Infoboxen WikiCriminal that has been terrorizing the music articles? :-)   As you can see from my first posting on AGK's talkpage, up above the duromac thing, I am *also* a notorious wikiCriminal. Or at least, notoriously silly (AGK blocked me -- then later unblocked me -- when they mistook one of my not-all-that-funny jokes over on the Bishzilla talkpage).

But my actual question for you is this -- I did not really understand your reply to me.

(watching) Simply thank you! (I would use the button, but it doesn't work for IP. Also there's nothing secret here.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:06, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, okay, I understood the watchlist part, and the thank-you part. You are surely welcome. <bows>

But what button and what secret thing are you referring to? I do login as an IP, of course (you can call me 74 if you like), but User_talk:Clover1991 has registered a pseudonym; they are the one submitting the article, not me. Maybe the link to the 'secret' thing in my message was was confusing -- it is just a pokemon character, one of many not-very-notable-toys which has a long article in mainspace, badly in need of cleanup, and short on reliable sources. The pokeman-article is not related to the Duromac thing, directly, I was just using it as a metaphorical example of how wimpy our deletionist-standards are when something is 'popular' to some degree in the english-speaking-world. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

74, nice to meet you! (Feels like Lohengrin, no real name ;) - But then I'm a friend of 28bytes, also no real name but heart and reason.) - First: yes, I am the terrorizing witch, only nobody told me so far what that terror is, I see no evidence, hear only echoes of former wars. You enter a battleground: you are a warrior, - easy. Sparrow Mass: after gracing seven Schubert masses with an infobox I continued with Mozart, interesting story followed ;) - Now to your question: between registered users, there's a function where you simply click a button for an edit and have thanked the editor who made it, and it's more or less secret between the two. Sometimes I use it where I would not do it in public ;) - I wanted to thank you for your diligent research and the way to present it, I watch AGK since this, more recently this, - the former was more fun ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Appreciate your thank-you, kind and gracious humanoid. 74 does count as a name of sorts; think of it as a jersey number. :-)   Since I am an outsider, and have only heard rumors of the Dread Infoboxen Wars, you should take my nutshell explanation with a grain of salt...
infoboxen oh nohz!
  The story seems to be, that some editors who are very particular about *appearances* (the visual layout of the article and the style of how wikipedia appears to the readership) ended up annoyed at infoboxen *generally* as too data-oriented or too formal or too something, long before your arrival. So, when you came along with your wikithusiasm for spreading tightly-summarized knowledge, these visually-oriented editors mistook your love of the readership, with a crime of passion! <gasp> Personally, I never read the infoboxen, except in articles about chemicals, in which case I often *only* read the infobox-data. There is a new project, called WikiData, that has the potential to satisfy both yourself (e.g. there can be wikidata that the composer was born in YYYY that is easily accessible to readers *without* necessarily changing the page-layout) and the visually-oriented style-conscious editors; it is still in beta phase, and seeing the shape of what it will become is difficult at this point, but I have high hopes.
  Anyways, what it boils down to, is an *artistic* argument about aesthetics: does the page LOOK COOLER without the infoboxen, or with the infoboxen? As with any argument about looking fashionable, there is always going to be more heat than light, more noise than signal, and so on. The arbcom decision to make infoboxen illegal, and you a notorious wikiCriminal, was a deeply flawed pragmatically-motivated attempt to keep talkpage decorum, to end the endless aesthetically-motivated edit-wars, and in general decide the fashion-question by fiat. The problem is that they ended up compromising our deepest principle, the encyclopedia anyone can edit, which boils down to Liberty. (The second, unstated, half of the principle was also run over with a tank: Liberty and wikiJustice for all.)
You can see the same kind of respect-my-authoritah problems elsewhere, with the ever-growing list of Arbitrarily Enforced Discretionary Sanction topics (which will soon cover half of mainspace), the ever-growing list of semi-protected pages (the encyclopedia only Real Contributors can edit), and in so many other ways. The rising authoritarianism is deadly[2] to wikipedia... growth in active editor-count ceased years ago,[3] and has been steadily declining since. WMF has proven they are unable to help us,[4] so we have to solve this one ourselves.[5] Part of the *motivation* for draconian pragmatic arbcom decisions that violate the-encyclopedia-anyone-can-edit, is purely and simply that no arbcom member, no admin, and few semi-admins-using-twinkle-huggle-stiki-reviewer-rollbacker-etc can spare the time to follow the five pillars. They are busy-busy, rushing from fire to fire, and there are no reinforcements coming, whilst the readership grows and grows and grows.
retention oh yehz!
  This busy-busy crap leads to brusqueness, template-spam on user talkpages, ban-hammer first then let somebody else sort out the bodies, and most damagingly to aristocratic cliques and an us-versus-them caste-system wikiCulture. Worst of all, it is a vicious cycle where we shoot ourselves in the foot, every single day: nobody spares the time to be nice to beginners, so they leave, wikipedia is no damn fun. That means we'll *never* get reinforcements, we'll *never* be less busy-busy, we'll *always* suffer from steadily declining WP:RETENTION.
  Okay, enough whining: I am quite sure the problems can be fixed. We need to have a vast influx of new blood, and the only way to do that is by making wikipedia fun again. I am forming a not-a-cabal, which will rule the wikiverse with the iron fist of friendlyism, and force wikipedians to enjoy themselves here whether they like it or not. You are cordially invited to join. :-)   The not-a-cabal runs on a shoestring at the moment, holding brief meetings in the back alleys of the wikiverse on various user-talkpages, plus some of our agents have infiltrated the staid and prestigious halls of the WT:WER... but with any luck soon the not-a-cabal agents (colloquially known as WP:NICE nazis) will be everywhere.
  Our goal is simple: steady inexorable growth of editors that contribute at least 5+edits/month, from the current 31k-and-falling figure today, to one million for enWiki. The trick is to make sure they are 99% Good Eggs, which means we have to assume that at least 1% of humanity is basically good -- enWiki has a couple-few hundred million uniques per month in terms of readership, at the moment. My core assertion, and key assumption, is simply that way more than 31k of those people are Real Contributors; if we want them to stay, all we have to do, is simply to keep from driving them away.
We get literally 1000 new editors every month! Problem is, we lose 1050 editors, every month; that *must* stop. Thanks for listening, and thanks for improving wikipedia. p.s. Upgrades,[6] unofficial tutorial,[7] and the 'official' helpdocs,[8] too. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 13:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing elucidation! The infobox story goes back to 2005, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

Thank you for your cogent arguments on infoboxes for all biographies, so the "look and feel" of Wikipedia extends to all people. The arguments against them for certain classes of people is just silly. I love the way you have collected their specious arguments. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, it's nice to feel understood ;) - did you vote? - here's another collection of arguments, the candidates speaking for themselves, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
tale of the ironing lady

Gerda, apropos of Mark Williams-Thomas, why don't you simply add the parameter needs-infobox = yes to the {{WikiProject Biography}} template on the talk page? It will put it directly into a category, where many more editors will see it, and it is more, shall we say, "straightforward" than this sort of tactic. Voceditenore (talk) 19:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

I tried straightforward, here and here, - and your way might get someone in trouble without a warning, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
ps: the most straightforward story of where helping can get you is here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Placing an article in Category:Biography articles without infoboxes is not, in my view, requesting proxy editing on your behalf (or more specifically Andy Mabbett's behalf in this case). It is simply stating a fact, "this article has no infobox". Any editor can act on it (or not) without "getting into trouble" after evaluating the article and without reference to the specific editor who added the article to the category. That is much more in keeping with both the spirit and the letter of your ArbCom restriction and subsequent clarification than going to an individual editor's page, giving them a "Precious Award", and then following it up by informing them that you are looking for someone to make a proxy edit for you if they are "unafraid of arbcom sanctions". Voceditenore (talk) 11:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out the possibility of the talk page request which I didn't know. I would like to use it a lot, but who am I to say "needs an infobox", ever? I was told again and again that it's a content decision by the "principal author". I didn't mark the straightforward approach you mention above as humour, sorry, I thought it was obvious, - my only weapon in the battle against absurdity ;) - Who created Victor Bruns? The one who formatted a machine translation? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
"I would like to use it a lot, but who am I to say 'needs an infobox', ever?" I'm not following your reasoning at all, Gerda. Or perhaps you meant that humourously? Every time you suggest an infobox on an article talk page complete with a fully filled-in model for someone else to add (as you did at Talk:Mark Williams-Thomas, Talk:Grange Court, Talk:Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig, BWV 26, Talk:Wilfred Byng Kenrick, etc. etc.) you are saying the article needs an infobox. There's no difference between that and simply adding the "needs-infobox" parameter to a project banner instead. As for who created Victor Bruns, it was the person who made the red link turn blue by adding, formatting, and referencing a machine translation of the equivalent German Wikipedia article, i.e. Dr. Blofeld. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
No. Possibly I have a language difficulty. "Needs" means - at least for me - a different thing than "I suggest". I believe that every article would we be better with an infobox, but to my (admittedly failing) memory I never said that an article needs one. - Failing memory: I remembered working on the Bruns article so well that I failed to check the history. - I stopped pointing out my restrictions on article talk pages: what would our readers think? - I suggested infoboxes for Andy more than for myself because I believe that his restriction - not to add infoboxes to his own articles as if he was in conflict with himself - is absurd. - On a hike, I thought that humour also helps a bit to cope with loss, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
The clear implication to the reader of someone "suggesting" the addition of an infobox to an article and pasting a complete mock-up of it on the talk page is that in their view the article should have it. Otherwise, why on earth would they suggest one? On the other hand, the needs-infobox = yes parameter actually displays on the talk page as:
'"An appropriate infobox may need to be added to this article." [my bolding]
There is no essential difference between the two in terms of their implicature or in terms of the speech act they encode, i.e. an indirect request for action. Trust me, I wrote a textbook for beginners on pragmatics SMirC-smile.svg. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Voceditenore, thank you for clarifying and teaching! I would not have imagined that a parameter "needs an infobox" would translate to "may need to be added", which is more careful. But it's still not what I would say. No article "needs" an infobox. I show by an infobox on the talk page that in my view an article would be better with one, and I spare another user the time to design it. - I will try your approach on Gabriele Schnaut, but first need to add substance to the article, - and I need to learn this language better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Listeners/readers don't simply translate words into their literal meaning when interpreting language and acting on it. They make inferences as to what the speaker/writer intended by their utterance. Scenario: You walk into the kitchen where Signora Voceditenore is doing the weekly ironing. You have a wrinkled shirt in your hand and you'd like her to iron it for you because your landlord has forbidden you to use an iron yourself. You could say any of the following (in descending degrees of politeness/indirectness), but they would all be interpreted by the Signora as you basically requesting her to iron the shirt:
  1. I think this shirt would look better if it were ironed.
  2. I'm looking for someone to iron this shirt.
  3. I suggest ironing this shirt.
  4. This shirt needs to be ironed.
  5. Iron this shirt!
The Signora will do one of two things. She will either iron the shirt or refuse to iron it, but she won't have misinterpreted your intention. There will be several factors which will influence her decision to comply. How you phrased the request is probably the least of them. Signora Voceditenore (talk) 13:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Nice scene! I play the role of the Signora now: I would iron the shirt if the request addressed me personally: "Can you please iron this shirt? I would do it myself but I am not allowed to ... You could help me.", and I might be quite deaf to the above ;) - Unfortunately, the parallel doesn't work, because on an article talk, I don't like to talk about my shameful "not allowed" (now it says even "ban"), and I can't address someone personally. When I say "I am looking for someone", I don't mean a specific person. - Please check the singer, there's more now. I will look for better sourcing for the recordings, copied from the Spanish Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again![edit]

Thanks much, Gerda, for the reprise of your award. It's refreshing and encouraging to encounter some kindness amidst the bellicosity, irrationality, and bigotry that I frequently encounter. TimidGuy (talk) 12:02, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Patrice Chéreau[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Patrice Chéreau you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jburlinson -- Jburlinson (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey.[edit]

Appreciative gesture; gratitude. DS (talk) 14:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Many Thanks[edit]

I want to thank you for the kind Precious award dealie you left in August. (Alas, I've not been on the site much at all lately. This has been a rough week for me as a writer, and I can't tell you how lovely it was to find your considerate words waiting for me here. Kudos for being so thoughtful and positive. Scartol • Tok 19:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Lovely, considerate, thoughtful, positive: that's you, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Nun lob, mein Seel, den Herren[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda[edit]

Jolly New Year!! Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, needed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:40, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
From me too, but ... "all praise, and then this happened, - even more we need good wishes," — just elected (highest vote) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:38, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Did you know that he helped me in a seemingly hopeless case in 2011, and again in 2012. (Look for my name in his well organized archive if not.) Who's going to help me now, in this seemingly hopeless case? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
ps: I went to the Swedish Wikipedia to find out who wrote the excellent article 'tis the season' shown above, - he did, some don't like that, for me it was a revelation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
But why now? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:18, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
You look at his last two archives, mostly of one day, matters of COI and outing, - he - integrity in person - didn't want to serve on arbcom with the slightest bit of doubt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
I have just finished wading through the two archives and as far as I can tell it all boils down to something referred to as "WO", whatever that is: is it Wikipedia:WikiOverload? I cannot find out, and some chinless wonder. The mind boggles.
I feel angry now. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
WO is Wikipediocracy. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Happy New Year Gerda!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:38, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Happy New Year to you (but I confess that "Nazi" bothered me, - nothing compared to the above but enough to stay silent) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh! Thank you Nikki Maria, although I fail to see why it relates to WO — and why it should present such a hoo-haa. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Last year my present was an enlightening article titled "'tis the season" (shown above under the popcorn, and discussed here), - I looked for the author, no result, and found out now (to my delight) that it was 28bytes, - only others were less delighted, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Emailed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:24, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

clarified, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Help[edit]

Hi Gerda, sorry to bother you and i hope you don't mind but Wehwalt sent me in your direction. Im looking for someone to write or help in writing the critical reception section for Rocky the Musical. The main issue is whilst i have a couple of sources in the article i struggle to translate from German (Google translate is terrible and i don't speak German) on top of that i have difficulty in finding other German sources for the opening night reviews as there are so many German sources on sites and some seem to talk about openings and others just in general but i struggle working out which are which.Blethering Scot 19:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

If you have time. See my user, closed for the season, - traveling and sad, see above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
ok, well thanks. If you ever do have the time or the feeling takes you it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.Blethering Scot 00:05, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

St Andrews Cathedral Sydney Magi 01.JPG Happy New Year, 2014
From Amandajm (talk) 09:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

The Epiphany Window, St Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney, by John Hardman & Co. of Birmingham

Thank you for the epiphany, much needed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thank you very much for the "Precious" acknowledgement that you made on my talk page back in December. I can honestly say that it made my day when I discovered it. I sadly no longer have time to contribute to the project, but it is very gratifying to know that my contributions back then are still appreciated.

I am very curious to know how you managed to stumble upon my contributions, though? It's been so long now since I was a regular editor here and I assumed that my work had been forgotten! Cheers, Ashnard Talk Contribs 22:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I look every day, at today's featured article first, where I found you ;) - I remember the feeling when it happened to me in 2010, see my user page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
It's a very nice gesture. Keep up the good work! Ashnard Talk Contribs 23:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Trying ;) - Have a look at Duck Attack!, game expert, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Dear Gerda, I have just noticed you have been engaging in The Great Game with WP over the past couple of months! Rather you than me... I am a vulture for quiet anonymity these days if it can be found anywhere. (Instead I am vainly trying to find useful fingerings for the Musical Offering fugues and to make my left-hand trills on fingers 3 & 4 sound like something other than a dying weasel. I also had a wisdom tooth out, which has wonderfully improved my vocal resonance - on one side only.) But, I hope you won't let such matters affect your seemingly infinite productivity or cause you to forget that you have many friends here. On the whole the value of the good far outweighs the annoyance of the bad, and when one considers how far the English Wikipedia has come and the work that it is doing there are bound to be frustrations along the way. May I take this opportunity of wishing you a very happy New Year. yours, Eebahgum (talk) 05:32, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, encouraging! If you look at my archive, the game did not stop me ;) - If you look at my present user page, you see that the treatment of the one who won the last round stopped me, - I think of Kundry's dienen. dienen, for a change. I love your apparition and wish you a happy new year, - we will sing Schütz, Psalms of David, for sorrow and joy, - what's sorrow in German? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Fortunately I was never tempted to aim for adminship. Even in my schooldays I was recognized as unfit to be a school prefect, for which I have since become very grateful. It taught me that my own personality, with all faults, was unsuitable even for basic training in officialdom. It was perhaps incongruous that a Quaker school should have had prefects. If prefects, why not Bishops? Liktors? It took us long enough to get rid of Ministers! One must listen within. Sorrow? Leiden (as in Werther) gets near but it doesn't mean the same thing, and Sorg is not the same either. Sorgen-schwerheit? To find an unbastardized sentiment one must consult an antique dictionary. Is there a German word for 'Sorry'? Eebahgum (talk) 13:12, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the words! It's a drawing by van Gogh, as you may have seen, a pregnant woman in distress. "Sorge" comes close and sounds similar. "Sorry" is "es tut mir leid", stronger "ich bereue" (I regret). Je ne regret rien ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Hope is precious and great joy is found in living[edit]

Thank you for the sapphire—cornflower blue is a color of some significance to me. In the maelstrom that Wikipedia can sometimes be, remember these words from Ode to Joy:

   Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
   Eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
   Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
   Mische seinen Jubel ein!
   Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele
   Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
   Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
   Weinend sich aus diesem Bund! 

Walk lightly and remain yourself, above the fray. StaniStani  09:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, it helps to open my shop again. - I sang the words last year, here, helping. The blue colour is also of significance to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
shop open --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Yay :-)     — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

CVA[edit]

Dear Gerda, thanks so much for this - always interesting to see recognition of CVA. All best for 2014. I am slowly beginning to root around on WP, presently trying to shape up Chopin. Warm regards, --Smerus (talk) 17:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

2014 started with a freezing shock (see above), recovery slow (and only because a man whom I knew died and had no article yet), now expanding BWV 172, Bach helps, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:03, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that Gerda, you're more than welcome to lounge by my magma pool and thaw out!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:57, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I am afraid that would be a bit too sudden, no? - A GA review for the cantata might be the gentler approach ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Might be a bit hot too! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:28, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Erschallet, ihr Lieder[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 19:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the plunge ;) - You will notice that edit warring is going on, about whether to show Bach's original markings in Italian (Coro, Recitativo) at least once, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed! Only a few minor points/queries to answer. Ping me when you're done, it's clearly passable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Ping. I can stop now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you state done on the GA review page when finished?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:40, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Erschallet, ihr Lieder[edit]

The article Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 21:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks and greetings[edit]

A nice birthday present, dear Gerda. I am 62 today, well fed and wined, and delighted to hear from you. Tim riley (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy birthday, Tim, erschallet, ihr Lieder! Is your birthday the 10th? Did you see yesterday's 100th? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:41, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Oops! I'm up too late. I was 62 yesterday the 9th, but I stagger on. Respectful hugs, Tim riley (talk) 01:05, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Even better in a way ;) - we celebrated what would have been the 100th birthday of a beloved the 9th, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
ps: If you think Wikipedia would not be damaged if Andy added infoboxes to articles that he newly creates you could say so here. Short, please ;) My point of view, but you don't have to adopt it: as Nikkimaria pointed out, his articles get infoboxes anyway (one by - then - an arb), but it would mean less work and feeling of "guilt" of those who add in what could be construed as proxy editing if he could simply do it himself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Regina (Lortzing)[edit]

Guten Morgen, Gerda. I've just come across this fairly new page and thought you might be interested in copyediting or expanding it. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 08:24, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Have patience, please, more sorrow and a blessing first, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
The mixed blessing done (see below), I looked, tweaked a bit and recommend that Michael Bednarek enters the scene, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Bier, Bratwürste und Sauerkraut![edit]

NUREMBERGER PORK SAUSAGES AND TUCHER BEER NUREMBERG OLD TOWN GERMANY APRIL 2012 (6944171488).jpg

Your thanks was worth so much more than just a beer! Plus, I really like Nurembergers. Although I prefer them on a roll mit mittelscharf. GregJackP Boomer! 21:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, I could need some "deftige Kost". I left two projects recently, for different reasons (see my user page). Working on an article on music written for a memorial service, the day of the funeral of someone I knew (not too well, but enough to write his article), and in memory of the friend who just left us (see top): ... and give you peace, will sing that tomorrow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Tschüß. Ich verlasse das Projekt. Ich werde nicht mit den Arschlöchern nicht mehr setzen. Ich will auch nicht warten, während Administratoren nichts zu tun. Es tut mir leid für die maschinelle Übersetzung, ich hoffe, es war nicht zu schwer zu lesen. GregJackP Boomer! 03:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I was easy to read. Losing the best - I say that since 2010. Every good one gone makes it harder to stay - the Lord bless you and keep you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Patrice Chéreau[edit]

The article Patrice Chéreau you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Patrice Chéreau for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jburlinson -- Jburlinson (talk) 19:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Move Like This[edit]

The rider
Frederick August Wenderoth, A Winner.jpg
Giant rubber duck [1] - tried to rescue

sv:Move Like This Stubb in. Two problems. 1. Can't add the interwiki. 2. this picture doesn't work overthere. Hafspajen (talk) 22:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!!! I like this move ;) - Those are no problems, I will fix wikidata entry, and sv and de have to do without the pic (which can't even appear here, sorry), same as for Duck Attack!, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
  • No worries. How did you fixed that? Hafspajen (talk) 11:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
  • What? Wikidata? Someone else did before me. Let's assume you wrote a stub on the game, you click on "edit links" under "Languages" on the left, that gets you to here, you click on "add" under links to the other languages, enter "sv" and the name in the next field, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I never discovered the add stuff, but was clicking everyhere else but there. Hafspajen (talk) 13:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
I forgot to mention that you also have to press "save" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you did. Face-smile.svg Hafspajen (talk) 14:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Duck or attack, that is the question, - have a look, also pictured on top ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
  • What about a stub? And why don't you ask Eric to help you? Hafspajen (talk) 22:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Lovely sidesaddle paintings, by the way! Montanabw(talk) 00:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, aren't they. Well, we wait then. Hafspajen (talk) 16:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
So, do you have a catch me if you can DYK for August? Hafspajen (talk) 17:50, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for gallery. Article needs refs, at least one for every para, - will do that tomorrow. Swedish duck stub? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:48, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Thought the German article had those... Hafspajen (talk) 20:29, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
German articles almost never have them, not inline, ask PumpkinSky (o wait), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Hamburger Konservatorium[edit]

Gerda, I just knocked off this little article but it could use some improvements. I was unable to find any english sources on the school, but I'd imagine there would be several in German. I can read and speak some German, but I am by no means fluent. Perhaps you could help with improvements. Also, all of the red linked alumni and faculty have articles on the German wiki. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

So nice to meet you again! I moved you on the sad list a while ago. For the red links, use {{ill|de|article name}}, those knowing German can get more on single people. No more sources right now, sorry, and see above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Rocky[edit]

No, i fully intend still to do it. Not been that well last few weeks so avoiding the things that take me out my comfort zone i.e. need a bit more concentration. Will try and complete next week.Blethering Scot 13:40, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Take all the time you need to feel better. My recovery is in progress, and I am dealing with tricky reception, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for The Lord bless you and keep you[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Rösch[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Frederick August Wenderoth[edit]

Hi Gerda, this is an article that interests me a lot and I'm afraid I got a little carried away with it! He's somewhat important in California history, was one the first photographers in the area where in the 20th century Ansel Adams took some of his most important photographs, and the paintings of the Gold Rush are important to the history of the state. Anyway, I'll post to the talk there about the edits I made (some have to do with the sourcing issues that came from the original .de page) and we can hash out anything you disagree with. Victoria (tk) 02:42, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Delighted about your help, see above how I got to know him ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

Hi there. Some time ago you nominated something I wrote for a Did You Know fact. I have drafted this one Template:Did you know nominations/Thaddeus Ma Daqin but am unfamiliar with how to progress it. Are you able to advise or help? Many thanks. Ozhistory (talk) 01:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks llike a nice start. First you have to link the article in the hook and bold that link. So far he is not mentioned, consider doing it, otherwise create a pipe link. Also the article is classified as a stub, remove that, it's no longer true. It's long enough and new enough, you have three more days to nominate. - When you are ready you copy the complete title of the nomination and insert it on the nominations page (the link is in the nomination, on top), under the day when the article was created (16 January), - follow the example of others. I could all do all this myself but think you learn more if you do it ;) - DYK that I am working on a bishop myself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hermann Müller (Idstein)[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Frederick August Wenderoth[edit]

Everything looks good, however shouldn't a QPQ be done. I would like to give a Good to Go on this.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

MOS of Music related articles[edit]

Hi, long time no see. Hmm, I couldn't find an MOS for musicians so I edited this guy and now I am confused; is it O.K. to add links to say 2000 in music in a list of albums? Many thanks in advance.--Mishae (talk) 15:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I would do that (only) if the linked page lists that album, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
So, in your opinion did I do it right, or not? Because if it is allowed, I will then do it to the rest of the musicians.--Mishae (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
I checked 1978 and 2000 and did not find the album in the year article, so I would not link those. But who am I - always saying that MoS is not holy scriptures, - better ask others ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:39, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Like whom?--Mishae (talk) 23:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Project Jazz perhaps (see his talk), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thank you very much for your message. It's good to know, at least someone appreciates my edits. HerkusMonte (talk) 15:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Writers Barnstar Hires.png The Writer's Barnstar
Your efforts in creating and translating articles, here and elsewhere, is greatly appreciated. Thank you Gerda. Drmies (talk) 20:47, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Both a flower and a sapphire....
Team Barnstar Hires.png The Teamwork Barnstar
Your efforts in creating and translating articles, here and elsewhere, are greatly appreciated. Hafspajen (talk) 20:52, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, both, you excellent writing team, - guess what, I even started attacked a Magnificat today, or should I say four? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Magnificat, Magnificat, Magnificat, anima mea Dominum, Magnificat Magnificat Magnificat anima mea! Hafspajen (talk) 00:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Well, this one is the classical that is used in the mass, found it in a Taizé Community song bok. Hafspajen (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Gerda is just reading a book, and doesn't care any more.. sigh Hafspajen (talk) 16:48, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I know that one, now we can hum together, - on our program is Schütz SWV 494, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the Yogo sapphire, that's another article for Swedish etc. I did German, including that image ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
MMmm, an Idea. You see, those songs are very ancient, if you listen to that link. In the hymnals you can sometimes read, atributed to tis and than.. or just ancient praise. Hafspajen (talk) 13:44, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The wording attributed to Mary dates from before she gave birth, and she took ideas from Psalms of David (Schütz composed many of those), thousand years earlier, who took ideas ... ideas about a different fairness, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

👍 Like Montanabw(talk) 00:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Like that painter, Charles Marion Russell? Here, Paradiesgärtlein. Hafspajen (talk) 06:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Those flowers, most are Marian symbols. Please, see that the link is RED! If you go ower to the German text... the Paradiesgärtlein, see... Even better. Now there is one thing for sure, the whole art history is full of those symbols. Am I failing to find this article, or really there is no such thing? Because, if not... Hafspajen (talk) 13:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Das Hofkonzert. Rudolf Alfred Höger (1877-1930)
Could you look please on those German texts? ->Journeyman years. Maybe you can add a translation...? Hafspajen (talk) 02:49, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Gerda was on a hike ;) - (you can look at my contributions if you want to know what I'm doing. I don't mind stalking, I'm used to it.) - actually I should read more, thanks for the beautiful suggestion! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the translation... !!!Hafspajen (talk) 21:30, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Beautiful concert at court, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
  • THEY ...They lay plutonium eggs.....?? Now what was that - (a citation Gerda)? Hafspajen (talk) 00:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
(it's in the description) - attack! (red link here) - I duck perhaps more than I can reasonably forgive myself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
painter stub probably tomorrow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
There is an intersting discussion att Kohl talk page, butt in. Raise a lot of questions. Rudolf-Alfred-Hoeger Hoeger Motifs de:Rudolf Alfred Höger - and take a look at past-auction-results Rudolf Alfred Höger [9]. And here, Rudolf Alfred Höger sold at Christies for £2,585 - how about that? Hafspajen (talk) 16:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Guess why I promised the stub? (It's not more than a stub in German also.) Because I saw that discussion ;) - today is the day of another Magnificat and celebration, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • ....That Gaudeamus Igitur and Obstmarkt in Venedig - have you seen them? Can you show me? Wonder if I put them on right description - contemporary. (Who knows - might be war scenes...)
  • You made my day! with the safirer! the only better day would have been tomorrow, because 30 Jan was the day I gave Precious to the author and photographer. The Magnificat will go to the ain page, pictured ; - now to work: now, I haven't seen the two, but they were mentioned in German. No war, Gaudeamus is Latin, and linked, a students' drinking song, fruit market is also no war scene. Contemporary we can't tell, not seeing them. - Can you find sources? No DYK without them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 19:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Uh, sources? The German Wiki - Doesn't they have them? Hafspajen (talk) 20:40, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
German has books, in this case one, I don't have it, I don't know which fact what page. That's #1. But I mean for the rest. Someone will say OR (original research). Jerome Kohl is kind of an institution, even a composer, but not a reliable source in DYK sense ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I did realised his intelligence, Jerome Kohl striked me that a smart guy. The problem is - well - that Höger might be in a local German artist's book, but he did not reached international fame. Nothing in my artbooks so far. But that doesn't mean that it is impossible to find a source. Many (even very good) artists sometime are not known outside their own countries, like for example Tivadar Kosztka Csontváry - a deeply original but unkown artist. Hafspajen (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
No doubt that he is good for a article. But if we don't find sources he can't go to DYK - which is no problem, of course ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I used Jerome Kohl 's words, because it was convenient but - but I can see for myself that the clothes, the furniture and the hairstyle is Rokoko, (I guess it is OR from my side), there is an other picture that says clearly that the painting is representing Rokoko era.(commons) The others are in clothigh like 1870-th. Compare James Tissot. But maybe there will be no DYK then. Hafspajen (talk) 22:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
'This is our reference, at google books, but it doesn't work on by computer. http://books.google.at/books/about/Die_%C3%B6sterreichischen_Maler_des_19.html?hl=de&id=_dUMAQAAIAAJ Hafspajen (talk) 23:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I find a Josef Höger, but not Rudolf Alfred, sorry, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, damn Hafspajen (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2014 (UTC).
How about something like this? [10] I am no good at finding refs on him. He is just not know enough. But his paintings are sold and bought, one can see that on the art auctions. Yngvadottir is the expert on this kind of things, not me. The German libraries might have books, - or Austrian books - might have somehing I can't find... How about Jerome Kohl? He said he was inteserted. Hafspajen (talk) 16:39, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I am not there yet, do you mean Lovis Corinth? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:31, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Mmm, Lovis Corinth in New York Times is also a good source. I mean maybe it is possible to fing something like this for this Höger. Hafspajen (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Let go, no blast please. I suggest the following: I nominate, and if it's not taken we go to the next. "Waste of time", not good ;) - Click on 28bytes on top and look for the phrase ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Good idea. Hafspajen (talk) 19:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the duck, the day 28bytes is swimming again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
You like Ducks, no? Hafspajen (talk) 20:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh, good. de:Gefahrengebiete in Hamburg im Januar 2014 -> Hamburg demonstrations, maybe you can chrck+ Hafspajen (talk) 20:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
not now - perhaps ask project Germany? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
  • I think the same but please put this somewhere else, I archived but didn't want to miss the Preziosen. Look in his archives for the sad story, my version. (Shortcut: my user, "my facts") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Ich will nicht tibetisches verlieren. Somebody has to do it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Tibetisches kommt immer wieder, Kürbis nicht, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Ich kenne beide schon länger, #2 and #4 Precious.- Auf Wikipedia, alle immer "du", bitte, und nette Leute ganz besonders ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Prayer
and look and expand, to be featured here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Back to the Magnificat: we rehearsed "Of a Rose, a lovely Rose", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ernst Roth[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Well done, Gerda. I did some minor copy editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You may like to expand Adolph Fürstner.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps later. I linked a few times, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Frederick August Wenderoth[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration motion notification[edit]

A motion regarding you has been proposed: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Motion 2 (Gerda Arendt).

For the Arbitration Committee, --Bbb23 (talk) 20:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I saw that and asked the arb who worded it to explain and provide reasoning, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Magnificat (Schütz)[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Magnificat (Schütz) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Ealdgyth - Talk 00:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't be a big issue to fix, just needs to be formally cited. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Gerda. This was promoted with the image, but without a "(pictured)". I didn't see a natural way to add just a "(pictured)" that would make sense. Is what I did okay? MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 02:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Lovely! If someone minds that "Song of Mary" is not German, we can place "German" out of the pipe link, otherwise this is better because people might think it's what they know already. We rehearse it and will sing it in July! - Would you know an image that would match this 1990 Magnificat (that we sang in 2006), along with "The Lord bless you and keep you"? With a rose, if possible. - Did you click on "blushing" above? (where I "keep you"?) - Did you know that I keep a blue duck? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Wow, you work on everything from cantatas to video games! Yes, I saw the "blushing", and nobody was ever more deserving of my MBE than you. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 09:44, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
If the missed and banned ones wrote on video games, a mathematician and a supposed witch I translate, - it's my little opposition against witch hunt. I can't translate for the scuttled one with whom I shared your prize, - he never owned an article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Magnificat (Schütz)[edit]

Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Kandinksy[edit]

Hi Gerda,

The way I understand Wikipedia's guidelines is that I do not have to discuss edits beforehand, you know, being bold. But since you did revert my edits, I am obliged to explain, so here goes.

There are four bits there, which to me, could either be reworked to prose and using the quotations as a source, or just leave them out. For argument's sake, I'll copy-pasty them here to show what I mean.

  • "The 'Pioneer' [Kandinsky] did not just produce a body of work whose sensuous magnificence and rich inventiveness eclipse even the most remarkable of his contemporaries. He also provided an explicit theory of abstract painting, exposing its principles with the utmost precision and clarity. So, the painted work is accompanied with a group of texts that at the same time clarify his work and make Kandinsky one of the main theorists of art. Facing the hieroglyphs of the last canvases of the Parisian period (which are said to be the most difficult), they provide the Rosetta stone on which the meaning of these mysterious figures is inscribed"
    • With this quotation we cross neutrality, because we don't offer any criticism on Kandinksy. It is filled with unnecessary praise: "The 'Pioneer' [Kandinsky]", "sensuous magnificence", "rich inventiveness eclipse even the most remarkable of his contemporaries", "utmost precision and clarity".
  • "Kandinsky was fascinated by the expressive power of linear forms. Lyricism is the pathos of a force whose triumphant effort enters into action and encounters no obstacle. Because the straight line results from the initiative of a single, unopposed force, its domain is that of the lyric. When two forces are present and thus enter in conflict, as this is the case with the curve or the zigzag line, we are in domain of drama".
  • "Kandinsky calls abstract the content that painting must express, that’s to say this invisible life that we are. In such a way that the Kandinskian equation, to which we have alluded to, can be written in reality as follows : Interior = interiority = invisible = life = pathos = abstract".
    • Numbers two and three are supposed to be informative, but are more mysterious in tone: "Lyricism is the pathos of a force whose triumphant effort enters into action and encounters no obstacle" or "Kandinsky calls abstract the content that painting must express, that’s to say this invisible life that we are". So what does this add to the article? The only thing the reader will gather is that Kandinksy was greatly admired by someone (note that Michel Henry isn't mentioned after three paragraphs of his own words).
  • "Like the final climax of a giant orchestra, Moscow resounds victoriously".
    • Again, not informative at all. It was Kandinksy who said this about Moscow, so the quotation isn't about him or his work. It could be used in the article to show how he felt about Moscow, but not as a standalone quotation.

I hope this explain my edit. Feel free to come with counterarguments. --Soetermans. T / C 12:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I suggest you revert to your version and copy the arguments above to the article talk as an explanation, and as a base for a discussion what to perhaps keep with source and context. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

If...[edit]

Hallo Gerda. As you can imagine, since the last ArbCom election I've been following the infobox arbitration case more closely. You might be interested in how I would have voted (had I been elected) at the 2 motions that have been proposed by WTT. Motion Number 1, I would have supported: Folantin's duck test is quite convincing. It seems that Andy, or somebody close to him under his instructions, adds infoboxes as an IP to his article. I would amend the original ArbCom remedy to allow Andy to add infoboxes to articles created by him for 3 reasons. #1 It's silly to enact an unenforceable remedy. #2 Under the original decision, you, Gerda, can add infoboxes to articles you create, so Andy should be allowed too, under the equal rights clause. #3 The continuance of the remedy as it stands is punitive rather than to avoid disruption, which is against stated policy. Motion Number 2, I would have opposed, on the grounds that ArbCom should maintain an open door for any legitimate request. To ask for an amendment/revision after a shuffle in ArbCom's membership, is legitimate and can not be held against anybody. Cheers. Kraxler (talk) 14:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Freedom of speech[edit]

There is a WikiProject about Freedom of speech, called WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech. If you're interested, here are some easy things you can do:

  1. List yourself as a participant in the WikiProject, by adding your username here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Freedom_of_speech#Participants.
  2. Add userbox {{User Freedom of speech}} to your userpage, which lists you as a member of the WikiProject.
  3. Tag relevant talk pages of articles and other relevant pages using {{WikiProject Freedom of speech}}.
  4. Join in discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Freedom of speech.
  5. Notify others you think might be interested in Freedom of speech to join the WikiProject.

Thank you for your interest in Freedom of speech, — Cirt (talk) 16:44, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Red links[edit]

If you could go back to linking missing articles on your user page this would be easier for me :-]♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Infoboxes amendment request[edit]

Hi Gerda, just a message to let you know that I've closed and archived the Infoboxes amendment request because both motions had failed to pass. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 01:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Kamphaus[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

DYK Swedish main page, see [12] Hafspajen (talk) 16:33, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Precious! What's that in Swedish? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Älskling? Hafspajen (talk) 20:04, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Magnificat (Rutter)[edit]

Thanks from the DYK project and I Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

FWIW[edit]

Santayana may be right. [13] Cheers. Collect (talk) 13:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Who is John Galt Santayana? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Famous quote: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Not really all that true, but popular. Collect (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
...with the variation, "those who do study history are condemned to watch in horror as others repeat the same mistakes! " Montanabw(talk) 23:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rudolf Alfred Höger[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 03:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

So Heinrich Fuchs did it! Hafspajen (talk) 12:58, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes! And you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Well Done — both of you! — Excellent! — Gareth— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:14, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

New Category[edit]

Added Category:Wikipedians who edit Wikipedia to your User Page, for your approval. A little humor! If you don't like, you can of course remove.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I was serious when I declared my distance from Teh Community. I got more mellow but not so much ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mathilde, Abbess of Essen[edit]

Orlady (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK Stats[edit]

Hi, sorry I reverted your addition of The Crescent (Birmingham) to the DYK stats as it was added under January. I've been trying to move it into February but I'm not managing it - can I leave you to add it yourself, please? I did try doing a self revert but it will just make a mess as you've been adding others. Apologies again! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Green tickY - no problem, thanks for pointing out we missed the month change ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Reginald Mount[edit]

Gerda, I noticed that the other day you offered to supply (did supply?) a QPQ for one of Andy's nominations. Another one is on the verge of being closed due to a lack of response (which has been going on for a while); I didn't know whether you wanted to be so incredibly generous again. I'll certainly wait until Andy is back on line and has a chance to respond before closing it myself, but I can't guarantee that someone else won't close it in the interim. Thanks in any case. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Green tickY --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Nikolaus Paryla[edit]

You may wish to further the translation! Gustav Manker too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:20, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Green tickY - you might use ill|de| templates for the many films by Paryla, and make a Paryla page, there's Karl also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Franz Grundheber, translated text hidden ready for you!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

edit conflict ;) - tell me when you are done, I am busy cleaning a composer, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I noticed that it was plagiarized from bach cantatas almost word for word into German. I scrapped it and am working off the bach source..♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:27, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Done for now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

(ec) About the same thing for the composer, but own website, - most commented out now. - Possibly Bach cantatas took it from Wiki? (Also happened before.) - Will look after the other, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Agnus Dei (Barber) & Messiah Part II[edit]

Face-smile.svg You're welcome! Hyacinth (talk) 00:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Nice to meet you, and two of my mourning pieces, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Der Kontrabaß[edit]

Orlady (talk) 13:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Patrice Chéreau[edit]

The article Patrice Chéreau you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Patrice Chéreau for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jburlinson -- Jburlinson (talk) 18:52, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Essen cross with large enamels[edit]

Orlady (talk) 06:02, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cross of Mathilde[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 14:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cross of Otto and Mathilde[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Cross of Otto and Mathilde at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
I don't see an earlier notification about this nom. I don't want it to be overlooked... --Orlady (talk) 19:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you but I watch them. This one I only nominated but will talk to the author, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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100px Happy Valentine's Day
............................................................................................................................................................................ Hafspajen (talk) 04:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
thank you, also for you, - with a flower on top of my pages, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
  • My dear rose, do you think I am An English expert- Well because I am not - sigh. Yngvadottir is runing after me correcting my spelling and grammar all the time. But I seee if i can do something. Hafspajen (talk) 10:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
  • You are English expert enough for such a nice compliment! - I want you as the Swedish expert. You read what's there in Swedish, compare to what you may find commented out, and reword. Stress on reword, all in the comments is not good. I will be with you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Oh, well ok.Hafspajen (talk) 10:46, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Well I did what I could. Some people would't even let me edit great and important articles like Michelangelo because of my "poor" English, (see talk page) so I hope this will do. Hafspajen (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
  • returning from a hike: I will see, and if I believe one thing here it's: combined efforts make the music, not solos, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Nice thinking, where do you hike? Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Do you get visions like this hiking?

Was Der Kontrabaß translated to Swedish? (It's misspelled on the author's article there, no link.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

No, can't find any. What does that mean? Kontrabaß? The instrument? Micht be translated. So you DYKed Karin, saw that Face-smile.svgHafspajen (talk) 09:56, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes the instrument. The play was translated to 28 languages, I thought Swedish might be one of them. I can't DYK Karin, because we can't expand her 5 times, but what about the red link singer? Is she good for 1,500 characters of prose? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
  • [14] she is there. Might work, she is supposed to be one of the best folk singers. Hafspajen (talk) 10:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Editors Barnstar Hires.png The Editor's Barnstar
To you, Gerda Arendt, for your unswerving dedication to improving this wonderful free encyclopedia, and for encouraging clear thinking among your fellow editors. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
"encouraging clear thinking", - I am actually crying now, thank you. - It will go in the selection "blushing", above. I remember winning an argument by "facts and myth", that was two years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, you definitely make me think, and your comments restrain my tendencies to rush to judgment. And restraint is something worthy to be cultivated, don't you think? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
I keep trying to encourage clear thinking (without having been able to word it that well), - Eric is someone who didn't need that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your untiring work on Portal:Germany, especially your comprehensive updates to the Did you know sectionIpigott (talk) 06:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cristian Raducanu[edit]

Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 16:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


Female dancers[edit]

Given your interest in music, Gerda, I thought you might like to assist in improving our coverage of female dancers which I am trying to promote in connection with International Women's Day/Month. You seem to be well placed to sift through the German-language biographies which have not yet appeared in English. I have started a List of female dancers but there are certainly lots of other important figures to be added to the sections on Germany and Austria. If you don't have the time or inclination to write up the bios, then it would be a help if you could simply add names to the list with a few words explaining each dancer's involvement together with a reference. Alternatively, you could simply add names to Wikipedia:WikiWomen's_History_Month/To-do_list#Dance. Any help you can provide to encourage general participation would also be greatly appreciated. Let me know too if you have any suggestions for improvements.--Ipigott (talk) 11:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Great idea, and I have nothing urgent. I nominated a philosopher, and we work on a folk singer (see above). I am not very familiar with names in dance, but will have a look. Perhaps point me to specific German bios. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I added some from de, one who's a red link there as well. If needed there would be more, I will now look to the US. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Well it's great to have the names but it would be even better if you could transform some of the red links into articles. Strictly speaking, the list should not have any red links. (See previous lists such as List of women photographers and List of female architects.) As for the United States, there are so many names I think we'll probably have to create a separate list. That's why I haven't really started on it yet. But at the moment, I'm more interested in the countries where coverage is not so good. Anyway, thanks for your support.--Ipigott (talk) 16:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I had to include Tallchief whom I reviewed for DYK ;) - I could create stubs, and a bit more on selected women, Keil and Vernon preferred. (Guess what, I have red links of my own, not here (you know why) but on de where I just enjoy the second day of the above pictured DYK, they keep them for two days), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
ps: compare List of composers by name, it was discussed if "significant fame, notability or importance who also have current Wikipedia articles" meant English Wikipedia or elsewhere also, and decided that it meant elsewhere also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Started Theater Kiel, very rough... Text is hidden..♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Kitten in a helmet.jpg

Thank you Gerda for your continued kindness and support. You are a super-duper Wikipedian and I'm proud to be working beside you!

KeithbobTalk 22:04, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Berkeley moved[edit]

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers#Michael Berkeley. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:29, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

seen and smiled, thank you ;) - I would reword the lead but will stay away (smiling more), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thanks for the sapphire. I plan to be working on the FFXIV articles again soon. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for L'ultimo giorno di Pompei[edit]

Thanks for your contribution Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Jan Matuszyński[edit]

Thanks for your contribution Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Susanne Rosenberg[edit]

Hafspajen (talk) 07:41, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

later, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

May all be happy.

May all be free from disabilities.

May all see the good in others.

May none suffer from sorrow.


Hafspajen (talk) 11:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Did you follow the link to "just" on top (to the latest sorrow)? - The above: Is it your translation of that newspaper article. Could you start her article, and we take it from there? I have about an hour now. Please be careful to use a different sequence and reword whatever possible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
No, not the newspaper; this is from the Wikipedia, the Swedish. That article had very little usefull info. Hafspajen (talk) 12:06, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Article is out in main space. Hafspajen (talk) 12:14, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! (I had it already on my user page, as a red link, did you see that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Just a bit more, and she's good for DYK. Perhaps a review? Recordings? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
OK: can you try also? I hit mostly Swedis stuff. (Because I am in Sweden.) Hafspajen (talk) 13:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The 2 are her own website, that's there as an external link. Look for Swedish and use, I can do the other. Only that I have to take care of another tagged article. We have four more days ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Do you see what Birgit Keil has and Rosenberg is missing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
If you mean an userbox... don't know how to do that. Never been interested in useboxes. I don't like them much. I would prefer a picture. Hafspajen (talk) 18:47, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
I have never been interested in user boxes (show only one on the bottom of my user page). No, I mean a useful box. I compare it to the title page of a book, while I compare the lead to its abstract. Please look at Keil: you see at a glance that she is a living person from Germany who is a ballet dancer. Everybody can see that, even someone not good enough in English to follow the prose of a lead. If I look at sv:Franz Kafka I understand much more from the box, because it's structured, than from the lead. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:18, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Gerda, do you want me to do that? I dont use to them either much. Was that Kafka about the man who throw away his key, and dicovered he was not happy with it? Or was it Thomas Mann? Hafspajen (talk) 10:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
I like to understand what "I don't like them much" means. (Sometimes I ask people if the love or hate them, because it's surprising how much emotion is invested in the topic. The answer to my last question was this.) If your dislike is not strong, you could copy from Keil ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
ps: key question: sorry, I don't know, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Sigh. So you insist that I should do that? The answer is... an old guy? Hafspajen (talk) 10:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
You should see me grinning, - I heard many arguments already, but "too old" is new ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Damn all infoboxes. OK, I will make one for YOu, but don't make me do them to often. Hafspajen (talk) 11:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

A brownie for you![edit]

Brownie transparent.png Thank you very much for the saphire, please keep up the good work! Best, Matty.007 16:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Precious[edit]

Hi Gerda, Danke schoen for the precious. As you may have seen in my comment on Philip's talk page, I have retired my user id and am doing my best not to be involved at all. I hope that you enjoy two great pianists an Rheingau although, unless I'm confusing him with someone else, I think one has a reputation for cancelling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.203.96 (talk) 00:29, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, enjoy music! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Diogenes Verlag[edit]

Thanks and have a good weekend Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Grundheber[edit]

Thanks and have a good weekend Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Revenge[edit]

The big smoked Revenge by fish
Fermented shark, hákarl, is an example of a culinary tradition that has continued from the settlement of Iceland in the 9th century to this day.
Svið: boiled sheep's head, served here with mashed potatoes and mashed turnips.

Guten Appetit . Hafspajen (talk) 17:48, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I like it, thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
An image would be great, of the singer, I mean, and perhaps also the composer: could you approach them, asking if they are open to making a free pic available? Thinking about a DYK mentioning both, alternatively Rosenberg and her group. - About disgusting food: did you know that an editor claims having eaten his hat, cat and bat? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

UGHHUHUHUHH. Hafspajen (talk) 11:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

See? Always be careful making conditioned promises ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Lovely. You Gerda are a bad girl. I did not promised, did I? Now you probably will go on like this until I will fix it. There is a minor problem. I don't load images. Gosh, I am from 2009, basically still. Hafspajen (talk) 12:46, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

You misunderstood completely ;) - I meant the author guy promised too much (was sure the condition would not be met. Wish he had been right). You did the opposite, grumble but act, thank you! (We are discussed, did you know?) I will not do it again ;) - You don't have to load an image yourself if you get a link to an image from a lady or two, with a letter saying that it's ok to upload. My account was also born in 2009, did you see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
What, we are discussed? Ok, try to convince the lady. Hafspajen (talk) 15:05, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Gerda I like your style. You make me do nice iteresting things. How very giving is to edit articles with you. I always learn something new whenever I do a new article together with you. How many did we already? Something about five? Like joking around with you too !!! And you are always teasing me... Hafspajen (talk) 21:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Do you like Kaiserschmarrn? Hafspajen (talk) 22:10, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I like you, your help (4 articles so far, see my user page), Kaiserschmarrn and smoked revenge, in that order ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Ichthys is adopted as a Christian symbol.
Really? it feels like five. We sould do some nice Cristian article next. Hafspajen (talk) 22:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Go ahead. I have one in mind, but will not say which, you know why ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
  • PS. Yust comee me for by you to as by to say: Pöpcørn!
Ps. By the way, I have areal important thing to say: I likee lake a lookee too – on Wickedpedia - on the little Pöpcørn... eh? Pöpcørn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS I like Pöpcørn with the "little fishy fishy fish- little little crabby, shrympy"!Hafspajen (talk) 22:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

.Vad har blivit avbildad. Vår fader dyú som är i himlen, låt ditt namn bli helgad, låt ditt rike komma... Pater noster, qui es in caelis: sanctificetur nomem tuum; adveniat regnum tuum; fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo, et in terra. Panem nostrum cotidianum da nobis hodie; et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris; et ne nos inducas in tentationem; sed libera nos a malo. Quia tuum est regnum, et potestas, et gloria i saecula. Hafspajen (talk) 23:17, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Amen on Sunday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I just remembered I have something really important to say!!!!!!!!! Pöpcørn! Sushy bowly shrimpy. Poppelicorn the srimpyy, i mickelyoweny iii little fishy dhrimpy shrimpy imm poppy oh poopelypopocorny hu, HELLOOO, YES+++ NOUÛU¨UUUUÛÛÛ^- shrippy shrippy popoycprny shrympy Hafspajen (talk) 11:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
What's for lunch? - Sunday hike was here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:14, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
You know I love hiking? But you are very brave, I usually don't hike in wintertime. Eh, lunch..fish? or poppycpocorny? Hafspajen (talk) 11:01, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Did you read the article below the popcorn image high up? (written by 28bytes, as we know now, well written) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
shortcut, but the longer hike is worthwhile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Ah, pooypycorny!!! Pöpcørny! magnificat Hafspajen (talk) 14:00, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
.Oh, Joy. Hafspajen (talk) 18:31, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
matching the link from Hope in the box on top nicely, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Exactly!!. Hafspajen (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Re: Precious[edit]

Thank you so much. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 17:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Precious[edit]

Hello, Gerda, and apologies for the delay in replying to your beautiful message on my talk page. To be honest, I was a bit overwhelmed! I love what you do, and how you help the community of Wikipedia editors to feel we are working in harmony on this amazing project. Delighted to meet you. — Hebrides (talk) 11:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Let me add my thanks and apologies for my delay in replying to your beautiful message on my talk page (Hope Hebrides doesn't mind me stealing his beautiful words....too good to improve upon...so I plagiarize....ach! tell no one!! :) Thanks Gerda! Dreadstar 00:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
What some call stealing, I call sharing. Nice to meet you again! Find your name when you open "blushing" above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Bayerische Verfassungsmedaille[edit]

Blue linked! Can you copyedit? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Shall I db-author it? Don't want a crappy translation lingering around.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:07, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I will look now, was at the theatre, - wondering if it should be merged with the opera house? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Yeah I noticed it seemed to be in the same building. I think it's probably OK separate if that's the case on de wiki?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Theater is the organization, opera house is one of three stages (looks like another is in the same building, Werftstr. somewhere else), but for history of Theater we need facts from the house, - the house will be almost good for nothing then ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Back to the medal: I populated it with all blue links from de, mostly stubs, some decent articles. If you like you could add a bit of life data and short description, and of course expand the stubs, - I'm too tired, and have stuff tomorrow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

If I could thank a "thank" then I would do so, but seeing as I can't, here's the longwinded effort ;) Cassianto (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I thank for the thank for the thank, not as longwinded as this title (mind the date, not quite true right now) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
As lovely as my destination was, It was there that I heard of another great editor leaving thanks to the people who laughingly call themselves Arbitrators. Cassianto (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Guess why I have sorrow on top? If you look for "drinking" on his talk, you see my problem grow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
ps: in the box on top: the link goes from "just", not arbitrarily so, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cross of Otto and Mathilde[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 17:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Forglen House DYK[edit]

Thank you, Gerda, for very kindly fixing the hook and the article for Forglen House, also for reviewing it! I just wish our best article fixer was here to help. I (like many, many others) have always received nothing but kindness, help, encouragement and support from him - I wish he would come back, although I don't think it's going to happen. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:54, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Look for two words in the box on top: "just" and "hope" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
ps: and look for "drinking" on his talk, or "revenge" above, - we do what we can, "quantum potes, tantum aude" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Wise words ... and yes, we can just hope; then perhaps we can all get back to building articles. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
I decided more than a year ago that I would do that (I have a red category on my user page), regardless of other people, - I hope that Eric will come to the same independence. I almost broke it when 28bytes left, - but only for three days, then I translated his article to German ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Cippi of Melqart[edit]

Hey, thanks a lot for your help on the Cippi of Melqart hook, as well as for your suggestion re: references in the opening paragraph. The article is listed for a peer-review, I'll bring it up with the (eventual!) reviewer.

Thanks again! reuv T 10:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Theater Kiel DYK[edit]

Hi Gerda,

I reviewed the Theater Kiel DYK. It's good to go as is, but I suggested an alternate hook. Let me know what you think. Musically yours, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Paco[edit]

Nooo!!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

More sorrow. Yesterday I added Anna Reynolds to my user, died 24 February. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Care to leave a tribute on my talk page about your experience of him on that summer's night?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:29, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
It was beyond words ... (you can link to what I wrote then, archived.) - Are you in the mood for a cemetery? Where Tatjana Gsovsky rests, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Cemetery coming later! Irish parishes right now! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Waldfriedhof Zehlendorf, needs a fair bit of work..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:31, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Theater Kiel[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Susanne Rosenberg[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Susanne Rosenberg at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Konstanze Vernon[edit]

Orlady (talk) 06:17, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

A good start on the eve of Women's History Month with many more in the pipeline.--Ipigott (talk) 06:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Gerda. Thanks for your message and your comment. The wording "causing a sensation" in the article Andreas Scholl was already used, before I made any changes. But I do agree that this is not a encyclopedic wording and should be changed. --Blumenschloss (talk) 06:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, now I remember, there was much more in that article written by someone who adored every note ;) - Looking forward to more, we had the pleasure to have him sing for us in Messiah in 2011, - absolute silence in the audience in He was despised. See also interesting discussion last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for...[edit]

... your wonderful message to me, awesome. Mick gold (talk) 13:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks from me too! Moisejp (talk) 07:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thanks so much for your award! I only ever received one, and by the time it came through I had slipped off into inactivity! Feeling preciously amused and awesome! :)

P.S. I need some slight help, if possible! I have corrected the French version of the article Cippi of Melqart, but I can't do the same with the German article (Ich kann kein Deutsch sprechen) - you see, there's the 'tradition' that these artefacts were found in Tas-Silg, Marsaxlokk, but this is not the case. I sourced and explained the controversy in the English article, and amended the French one, but can't do the same with the mistake on the German page.

reuv talk 16:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

"preciously amused" also ;) - I will look later, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
:) Thanks again! reuv talk 20:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
ps: remember Rigoletto in the Manoel Theatre, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
As my French is limited and I don't see your name in fr, can you tell me what should go to German with which source? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Edited it without an account, so you'll just see an IP removing the text on Tas-Silg and a summary in English to explain what was going on!
The text should be something along these lines: When the Greek inscription was published in the third volume of the Corpus Inscriptionum Graecarum in 1853, the cippi were described as discovered in the coastal village of Marsaxlokk.[1] Before, their Marsaxlokk provenance had not been proposed by anyone, and it was more than a century later that the claim was discredited.[2] The attribution to Tas-Silġ was apparently reached by inference, because the candelabra were thought, with some plausibility, to have been dedicated and set up inside the temple of Heracles.[3][n 1]
Or you can just say that their origin is undocumented and put in this reference: [5]
  1. ^ Böckh, A. (1853). Corpus Inscriptionum Graecarum, 681, 5753. III. Berlin.
  2. ^ Borġ, V. (1963). Tradizioni e documenti storici. Missione. pp. 41–51.
  3. ^ Bonanno, Anthony (1982). "Quintinius and the location of the Temple of Hercules at Marsaxlokk". Melita Historica. 8 (3): 190–204.
  4. ^ (in Greek) (in Latin) Claudius Ptolemy (1843). "Book IV, Chapter 3 §37 [sic, recte §47]". In Nobbe, Carolus Fridericus Augustus (ed.). Claudii Ptolemaei [[Geography (Ptolemy)|Geographia]] (in Greek and Latin). I. Carolus Tauchnitius. p. 246. URL–wikilink conflict (help) At Google Books.
  5. ^ Borġ, V. (1963). Tradizioni e documenti storici. Missione. pp. 41–51.
PS. Il Duca di Mantuaaa dice...la donna e' mobile, qual piuma al v-ento, mu-ta d'accento e d-ii pensier-o....
I tried. template refn is not supported there, so I left it with the first three sources. - Il Duca is wrong, of course, as the opera tragically shows, and of the people remembered in the box on top, there's only one female, - it's the man who leave, for strange reasons, "la donna e' stabile", I would say, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Stabile...like the improved Manoel Theatre article, you mean? (Thanks for removing the reference to Tas-Silg in the German Cippi of Melqart article!) reuv talk 09:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

BWV 172[edit]

No more red links!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Excellent! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

The 100 DYK Nomination Medal[edit]

Dyk100N.svg The One Hundred DYK Nomination Medal
Gerda, to mark this new milestone. "Light as a flight of tumbling birds was the dipping and soaring of her syllables." Moonraker (talk) 00:06, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Congratulations, Gerda! Chris Troutman (talk) 01:36, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
HOORAY! Way to go! Montanabw(talk) 03:47, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thank you, in light flight, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Well done!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations. Oh, my gosh. You were really working. I think I am at my 5th... Hafspajen (talk) 12:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I think you read that wrong, it's for nominations for others, something I am really proud of ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
No, I meant what i said Face-smile.svg Hafspajen (talk) 12:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
You meant you are at your 5th nomination for someone else? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

FAC[edit]

Its a tough ride no? Dont worry, its the same for all of us, it might feel like people are getting at you, but they are not, and have the best of intentions. Stress is part of the package at FAC but hang on in there. For my part I am delighted to see the nom, and will see it through. Ceoil (talk) 02:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Erschallet, ihr Lieder, - it's not a tough ride (unless something happened overnight that I don't know yet, I look at messages first, then Main page, thinking about Precious, then Watchlist, then Sunday, so may not be until much later today that I have time). So far I found ALL comments helpful and directed at a better article. I think of adding images of the relevant instruments, easy access to score examples right where something is described, and would love help in adding sound examples, something I never did, unsure of copyright. Thanks for singing along, I enjoy it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Good for you. Its morning so BMV 147! Yesterday I went through the John and Matthew masses, but got stuck on Mache dich mein Herze rein as usual. Let me get some caffine and we can talk about samples. Ceoil (talk) 10:07, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Good motto, BWV 147 ;) - A cantata for today is shown on my user page, in the DYK section. I plan St John for Lent (no cantatas then, silent time). What do you think of actually writing Church cantata? "Disinfo" - applied to certain features - seems the correct description for Cantata, - may its authors forgive me.

BWV 172 FAC[edit]

Hi Gerda. I'm almost ready to support now, but there are three bullets from my review needing attention: Two of them are changes I made and asked for your approval -- could you look at them please? The other is the "however" question in the translation; I think Moonraker may have overlooked your reply about the Capell Musici. --Stfg (talk) 15:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Translation[edit]

Winner of this year's Grammy (originally called Gramophone Award) – or Grammy – is an accolade by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences of the United States to recognize outstanding achievement in the music industry) in the category of classical album of the year became the composer Karin Rehnqvist, professor of composition at the Department of composition, conducting and music theory. She received the prize from Rector Cecilia Rydinger Alin, from the Royal College of Music, Stockholm who in the televised gala directed the male-voice choir Orphei Drängar, a new the classic price. "We are quite shy, composers, we don't take so much space," said Karin Rehnqvist in his acceptance speech.Then she went on jokingly: – But I would like to take this opportunity to thank the other nominated composers tonight: Mozart, Wagner and Stenhammar. They could not come. Karin Rehnqvist (born 1957) grew up in Nybro, Småland. In 1980, she got into or what, in Royal College of Music, Stockholm, trained as a music teacher and later of composition. Her breakthrough as a composer came with the composition Davids nimm in 1983 and since then she has made herself known in Sweden as well as internationally for both instrumental and vocal music. Among her most famous works, including the Cantata Sun song and several pieces of girls ' voices, Light of light for children's choir and orchestra and Concerto On a distant shore. 2009 Karin Rehnqvist was chosen as Sweden's first female professor of composition. The same year, she took the initiative to start the Organization KVAST (Female Accumulation of Swedish Composers). She was nominated for a Grammy Award already in 1996 for the composition David's nimm. See all the awards here:xxxxxxxxxx, some site. Hafspajen (talk) 16:54, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, will see what I can include. - Did you ask her and the other ladies for pictures? It would go where the pie is now, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
..Ah, I have to figure out how, she is living in Stokholm and I am in Lund. Hafspajen (talk) 17:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Did you know there's email? - I sang in Lund once, German Church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
.What do you mean German Church, you travelled with them or a competition? Hafspajen (talk) 17:34, 3 March 2014 (UTC).
We travelled from a German church and sang a concert in the German Church in Lund, after one in the German Church in Copenhagen, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Is there a German Church in Lund? Where? I know there is one in Malmö. We used to sing with them sometimes. Hafspajen (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Long ago, don't remember, perhaps doesn't exist anymore. - Can you improve Grammis, so that she is shown? It's in her list of awards in Swedish. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Gerda I am not going to open this link once again, I had to close down the computer to be able to get rid of it, just went on and multiplied all over the place, could be some shit connected with it or what. Hafspajen (talk) 21:17, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Don't know, it worked ok for me - as far as I know, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
ps: the above says she was Sweden's first professor of composition, that's even stronger than first of the KMH. I nominated her for the German Mainpage --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
.Try to fix som pictures. Hafspajen (talk) 22:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Pre-DYK nomination[edit]

Hi Gerda! (I miss your prescence on the WikiProjects - is the ban forever or just a year?). Yesterday I created a new article on little-known silent film composer Irénée Berge. Now I'm thinking of a good DYK hook. What do you think of this: Did you know that Irénée Berge wrote silent film music? Or this: Did you know that Irénée Berge, who came from France to teach at the National Conservatory of Music of America, wrote silent film music? -- Any comments most appreciated! and vielen Danke! -- kosboot (talk) 14:47, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Will look. I didn't leave the projects because of a restriction, but even before, to avoid conflict ;) - If you look at my articles, my interests didn't change, I took care of a singer who's article I created and who died recently, for example. Did you see that I even dared a FAC in the field, BWV 172? Today, related: a Bach publisher, you will meet him on DYK, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Looked, nice! I would mention Opera Corsica and Texas state song, - many readers will be US. Did you see my so far most successful German DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
(That stargazy pie is strange but funny! Congratulations!) For a DYK, how about (or is this too long): "Did you know that Irénée Berge, who came from France to teach at the National Conservatory of Music of America, wrote the opera Corsica, the song "Blue Bonnet" (the former state song of Texas), and silent film music?" -- kosboot (talk) 15:05, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I translated the pie, as before Duck Attack! ;) - Shorten: how about "Did you know that Irénée Berge composed the opera Corsica and the song "Blue Bonnet" which became the Texas state song? Leave "silent film music" for readers to find out, unless you think it's particularly attractive, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Well, I think the silent film music is attractive. How about I leave out the opera and just have a combo of Texas state song and silent film music - odd/interesting combination. -- kosboot (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Sentimental me wants the opera, - look for "I love opera" on my user page ;) - "Did you know that Irénée Berge composed the opera Corsica, a song which became the Texas state song, and silent film music? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I like that! Although I don't want to submit that since you created it. But you can submit it, if you have time. :) -- kosboot (talk) 15:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Done, and added here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Many thanks (I didn't wish to make you do the DYK nomination, but since you figured out the good statement..). Hopefully I'll be able to get better at doing these things. And thanks for showing me that list of composers! -- kosboot (talk) 20:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Not quite sure what I've done to deserve your very kind comment on my talkpage, nor do I believe I can even do something as nice, but I thought I'd let you know I appreciate it! Thanks so much; very kind of you. Λuα (Operibus anteire) 16:05, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, sweet! I thought I told you precisely what you did ;) - missing a friend whom I miss for the third time, Precious #3, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you![edit]

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg Many thanks! kosboot (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thanks, goes well with the cookie, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

help with Bach[edit]

no, not *that* Bach, a relative. I translated Johann Lorenz Bach from the German article. Or a least I think I did, my German is atrocious. Would you be so kind as to check my accuracy, for the sake of the Bach family reputation, if not for me? (grin). Many thanks as always. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 04:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much. You also added in the sentence which was beyond my comprehension, going above and beyond. Truly appreciated. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 15:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Cannot find your musician[edit]

Siegfried blows his horn (1911) by Arthur Rackham, from Siegfried and the Twilight of the Gods by Richard Wagner

Dear Gerda. Good morning! Thank you for correcting removing my indent.
Re- "- Again a musician who's article I wrote died, see my user page. - " you will have to lead me to the name, please. Much searching to no avail. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:00, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I see, I cleaned my user page for Lent, no cantata music then ;) - and Anna Reynolds came with a Bach cantata, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. English and 83. I had been anticipating a younger person. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Some of the others were English and old also, (in the order of creation:) Richard Adeney, Hugh Maguire, Franz Kelch, Franz Lehrndorfer, Alfred Planyavsky, and this is not counting those whom I created because they died, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello Gerda/Gareth. Am unable to find any date for Anna's marriage to Jean Cox. But apparently they met at Bayreuth where they then lived until the end of their lives. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Good evening Martin Odd that,isn't it? [15] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
...well, no, that sounds pretty normal for old "Dick the Ring". Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Hmm. Seems we cannot keep one of Hpj's predecessors, the Volsung, out of this thread. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Wait a minute. My predecessors made hatts not opera. Happyjee (talk) 00:13, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Waking up to a horn call: thank you, blowers! "Weiche, Wotan, weiche", as Anna Russell explains, means: "'Be careful, Wotan, be careful.' She then bears him eight daughters." - Please look at the discussion on Dick's talk and tell me what you think of it (and the image). (In real life, I have a friend called Dick who plays horn.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Am I being dense?—Who is "Dick"?
(aside) Blowers is my nickname for our friend Face-wink.svg — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
What is dense? (in this sense) - There's a link with Dick above (the one "very brave, very strong, very handsome, very stupid", even pictured), and a discussion on the talk. I had a lot of fun discussing, but it's possibly what got me the reputation of "battleground". What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I mean slow-witted. I thought you were referring to Martin's "Dick the Ring" above! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:41, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
You must be really slow-witted, because yes I was, not to him, to his Dick (to make things worse, trying to stay serious), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
... and to make matters worse, it was I who posted the [even] picture[d] yesterday ... Face-wink.svg — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! Back to the my question: How do you like the discussion? - I am looking for someone brave (or stupid) to add an infobox to Waldfriedhof Zehlendorf (example pictured), because it's creator whom I would normally ask is absent (you saw his memory on top of the page - link from "just", the cemetery article was written with Paco in mind), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
I understand fully.
I enjoyed the reading the discussion.
I have noticed that more often than not, the two adjectives combine to read ... for someone brave AND stupid to ...
Do you have anyone in mind, I wonder(?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:22, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
You mean in mind for category "brave and stupid"? No. None of my esteemed page watchers. Brave? No, not in mind, but we will see. Did you know Der Handschuh? ... dropping glove among the wild beasts, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. - Next glove, same history (absent friend started, I continued and completely forgot): Victor Bruns, infobox and warning on the talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Waldfriedhof Zehlendorf[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Waldfriedhof Zehlendorf at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! CeeGee 20:02, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Re:Precious[edit]

Thanks for the message. I'm not that active anymore, but it's always great to know that people find my edits useful. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

Red Kitten 01.jpg

Thank you for being so kind. :)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Meow[edit]

Thanks for appreciating my sense of humor. Mostly, it'll be misunderstood, I'm sure. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:45, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I think I am an expert in being misunderstood - and humour is the only weapon against it, - see my infobox ;) - what do you think of my first FAC? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I think it's a really good #1 FAC and I hope it becomes an FA. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:02, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: Mom & me[edit]

Hook has been pulled and is back at Template talk:Did you know. --Allen3 talk 11:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciated, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Waldfriedhof Zehlendorf[edit]

Orlady (talk) 08:02, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Birgit Keil[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ewa Ziarek[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

The Piano[edit]

C. Bechstein Poster, about 1920 edit.jpg The Musical Barnstar
Music.............................................................................................................................................. Hafspajen (talk) 17:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, piano to philosophy ;) - what do you think of the hook that I nominated (above)? - Lena Willemark has an image now, did you see, waiting for expansion ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Dörffel[edit]

Allen3 talk 10:34, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Possible DYK[edit]

Hi Gerda, you might remember me from such Teutonic articles as Erich Kettelhut. I have just put some work into the Weimar Republic masterpiece The Mistress of the World, but I really don't have the time to push it for DYK. You or a Project member may have more of an interest in pushing this article, or just improving or linking it further. ...or maybe you may just enjoy the article. Yours FruitMonkey (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Ida Boy-Ed[edit]

Ida Boy-Ed may interest you. If you're busy with other things, no worries. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

It did, and ran into edit conflict, - will wait a bit until trying again to get locations out the first bracket, highlight works, format years and translate German to "ed.", "No." and "p." again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I came across Ida as a redlink at Paulina Lebl-Albala, another woman's bio which until now, had been missing from wikipedia. On another note, I hope you take time today to bask in the wonderfulness of your solo FA; congratulations, Gerda. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, it doesn't take time ;) - I am writing a Bach cantata - in German, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Susanne Rosenberg[edit]

Allen3 talk 18:13, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Noch mehr[edit]

Milkunderwood (talk) 23:24, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

FA congratulations[edit]

Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172 to FA status recently. I know you know all about WP:TFAR and the "pending" list, so this is just a reminder to use them as and when suits you. Many thanks. BencherliteTalk 10:27, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, your comment makes me even prouder! Date for this one: the centenary of the first performance is 20 May, but it was written for Pentecost, performed on various dates whenever that was. It would make more sense to me to have it on Pentecost, 8 June, nothing pending yet. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good. We might have a religious weekend with Wells Cathedral the previous day to mark the new bishop's enthronement. BencherliteTalk 10:55, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
May I add my warm congratulations, dear Gerda? Excellent news, and thoroughly merited. Tim riley (talk) 10:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Tim, for support in general and diligent spotchecks, unafraid of German, in particular, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Can I add my congrats to the above? A thoroughly deserved and welcome addition to our FAs! - SchroCat (talk) 09:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Sure, thank you for good ideas in the peer review, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

An award for you![edit]

Young Bach2.jpg The J.S. Bach Award of Excellence
A hearty congratulations on promoting Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172, your first solo effort and success at FA. It's lovely to see and I'm glad to see your hard work has paid off!! Hope to see many more at FAC. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:34, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! Thank you for the award (but could we have the young Bach image from the article, even if disputed?)! Thank you also for a GA review that thawed a frozen condition. I plan more, but slowly so, always telling another section of his life, certainly BWV 76, his second in Leipzig, for June 2015. Or should I try BWV 22, test piece for Leipzig, in between? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
👍 Like Montanabw(talk) 02:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Granted! A long term goal could be to get all of the articles up to GA at least. I'm planning a similar thing with Academy Award winning films. Haha although there's rather a LOT of cantatas to do... Maybe 5-10 GAs and 3 FAs would be a better short term goal.. Happy to review any of them, although I might have to ask you to review a few of mine!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, refreshing. I didn't count the GAs, several, including the two mentioned above. More long term: one of the chorale cantatas (second cycle, perhaps BWV 125), then BWV 39 from the third cycle, Mass in B minor, St Matthew Passion. Short term: improve St John Passion and Baroque instruments. Another small goal: have consistent infoboxes for the articles for which I was the major contributor, missing in BWV 138 (discussed here), I need help. (I don't know if I will live to see a long-term goal achived: a consistent appearance for the readers.) As for reviewing in return: I happily read and comment in PR and FAC (see Enid Blyton), but leave GA to others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

And my long term related goal could be to blue link all the red links in the cantata articles :-]♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:11, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

That would be a never-ending task, because once they grow there will be more. Did you see that I "blued" three myself for this one, two publishers and a hymn? A list of all the hymns that Bach used, as cantata movements or chorale preludes, might be another goal, - with many red links first. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I hadn't noticed, nope. Well, I don't think we'll ever run out of topics to write about on here...♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:50, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Not ever, agreed. I added the fact that Bach composed cantatas in Weimar to his article, - it wasn't mentioned so far. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Berlin State Opera[edit]

Please review my edit and my edit summary. Art LaPella (talk) 15:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Good. There was confusion what Berliner Staatsballett and Berlin State Ballet mean, but DYK is probably not the way to clarify that (that the term was used before 2004 I mean), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Irénée Berge DYK[edit]

Hola! And a template, too. I'm just notifying you since you nominated it, but perhaps you'll let the creator know if appropriate?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 14:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Irénée Berge[edit]

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A question[edit]

Hi Gerda, I had a small question. On Gandydancer's talk page, you mentioned this: "1) expand 5 times (seems tough), 2) nominate and claim flu". What did the second point mean? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Steffi Scherzer[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 17:37, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Theodore Katsanevas[edit]

Gerda, it is always inappropriate to add an icon to someone else's review. If you want to make your own review and add an icon, that's fine. If you want to query someone as to whether they meant to add an icon and ask them to add it, that's also fine.

ColonelHenry had expressed doubts in other areas earlier. It may be that he thinks that ALT7 is fine even though those issues remain, or that he's satisfied that the issues have been settled or don't really matter. We don't know, and unless and until he places an icon himself, we can't be sure. In the meantime, please refrain from putting DYK icons for anyone other than yourself. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought I understood him, but you know better, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Beautiful Demoiselle[edit]

Would you be willing to clean up the translation here? I want to run this in POTD, but the quality of the language is subpar. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:34, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

  • The original language was German. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:34, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, probably not today, then vacation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
ps: I looked, and how right you are. What I would do is comment out all questionable sentences (hoping that some will stay). Gross typos, German untranslated words, a lot of work. Best advice: ask the related project(s), I wouldn't know the proper terms in biology, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I'll try to ping them. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:25, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172[edit]

Four Award.svg Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:55, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:55, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Jauchzet, frohlocket! Loud cheers. Tim riley (talk) 21:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
I wanted to thank everyone in the great team to achieve this individually, but do it here, going on vacation, with sporadic access, - take care! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Congrats on getting this article through FA and a well-deserved FOUR award...just to let you know, you can put a little top icon for FA, GA, and Four on your user page by posting somewhere on your user page:

  • For the FA star: {{FA user topicon|article_name=Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172|date=13 March 2014|icon_nr=1}}
  • For the FOUR award: {{Top icon|imagename=Four Award.svg|wikilink=Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172|description=This user earned a Four Award for work on Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten! BWV 172.|icon_nr=1}}

Just don't forget to change the "icon_nr=" parameter as needed. Good Job, Gerda. I very much enjoy your continued work on the Bach Werke and other musical gems.--ColonelHenry (talk) 22:04, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I will have one top icon, like a friend in the group "who have just given up", - all FAs are mentioned below, some in the infobox ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Irénée Berge[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Irénée Berge at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! — Maile (talk) 12:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for The Mistress of the World[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

spelling corrections[edit]

Regarding [16] [17], you may be assuming that, because the material was in quotation marks, the misspelling existed in the original source. From my reading of [18], this is not the case; misogyny is spelled correctly. Since this is a clear error of fact, I will be restoring the spelling corrections. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lucy Crowe[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tatjana Gsovsky[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

re Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties promoted to Featured Article[edit]

Thank you for your kind words about Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties.

I'm not really participating much these days at DYK stuff, so I'll respectfully defer to the community about that.

Yes, I nominated Thaddeus Stevens to TFAR, I think it's most educational for our readers in light of recent films 12 Years a Slave (film) and of course Lincoln (2012 film).

Thanks again for your kind encouragement of my quality improvement projects,

Cirt (talk) 22:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. DYK activity or not, some people think if someone said something negative about another living person, that is a fact that can be told, especially if it fills the news, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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Lucia Lacarra[edit]

Hi Gerda! I'm still concentrating on my female dancers. You might be interested in one of the stars of the Bavarian Ballet, Lucia Lacarra, I've just discovered. Although she comes from Spain, she has been dancing in Munich for the past 12 years. Maybe you would like to expand the article on the basis of German coverage.--Ipigott (talk) 17:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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