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August 2019 blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE August 2019 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 29 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1355, the English marched 675 miles (1,100 km) through French territory and took so much booty that they discarded silver objects to be better able to carry off gold and jewellery? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:03, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

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Barnstar for you[edit]

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I see you have 6 GAs reviews on your list to do in one day. :O I'm impressed with your enthusiasm to take all of them at the same time. I've only ever had at maximum 2 at one time LOL. keep up the good work! Maybe i'll see you at the backlog drive? ;) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


Four Award[edit]

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Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:34, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Congrats! – Reidgreg (talk) 21:09, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 August 2019[edit]

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open[edit]

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 September newsletter[edit]

The fourth round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 454 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with over 400 points being eliminated, and all but two of the finalists having achieved an FA during the round. Casliber, our 2016 winner, was the highest point-scorer, followed by Enwebb and Lee Vilenski, who are both new to the competition. In fourth place was SounderBruce, a finalist last year. But all those points are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 11 featured articles. In addition, Adam Cuerden scored with 18 FPs, Lee Vilenski led the GA score with 8 GAs while Kosack performed 15 GA reviews. There were around 40 DYKs, 40 GARs and 31 GAs overall during round 4. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Neville's Cross scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Battle of Neville's Cross article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 17, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 17, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

For Featured Articles promoted on or after October 1, 2018, there will be an existing blurb linked from the FAC talk page, which is likely to be transferred to the TFA page by a coordinator at some point.

We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors up to the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

October
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Thank you for the article! Nice to see your first FAC today, "about a battle from Edward III's annus mirabilis of 1346. During it the English defeated the French dauphin at the siege of Aiguillon, the French king at the Battle of Crécy, and the Scottish king at Neville's Cross. By the end of the year they were besieging Calais, which they were to take and hold for two hundred years. A large and well equipped Scottish army marched into England, spurred by Philip VI of France to intervene under the terms of the Auld Alliance in order to take pressure off northern France. Little opposition was expected, but the English marcher lords raised an army half the size of the Scots, marched rapidly north and met them on the edge of the northern English city of Durham. - The Scots mishandled their army, they were goaded by longbow fire into attacking across broken ground, part of their force fled without engaging and they were routed with heavy loss. The Scottish king was taken prisoner; he was to be held for eleven years. The battle was part of the Second War of Scottish Independence, which continued, bloodily, but strategically the English had cleared their rear and were able to concentrate on the war with France." - I will open a peer review tomorrow for Clara Schumann, - informal checking, copy-editing and comments welcome for a recent GA of which I wrote almost nothing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Today, I am proud of a great woman on the Main page, Márta Kurtág, finally! - Here's my ideal candidate for arbcom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

archive-URL[edit]

I see that you've done something of value on the India page, but can't figure out what. What is archive-URL? If you could explain in a few lines, I'd be delighted. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: I am a little vague on the detailed workings, but as I understand it, it archives a copy of cited web pages as a prophylactic against link rot, more details here. I tend to do it with any "more serious" article I come across as a part of my Wikignoming. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:37, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for taking the time to write about our experiences together at my RfA. I really appreciate your unflagging reviews of GANs. Considering our perpetual backlog it's so appreciated. One final thanks for your understanding of my being a little slow with A Big Mooncake for Little Star. As I am able to resume normal activities I look forward to getting that up to GA standard with you. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: No problem, RfA has always struck me as something of a circus, but I was happy to be able to accurately retail my interactions with you. I try to assess two GANs for every one I put through; having had 50 successful and 3 not I am about keeping up. And I am always happy to give time for editors to sort out actions at their own pace; I see no need to invent deadlines for the sake of it. Less so when this might or would deter the improvement of an article. Congratulations on sailing through RfA. To write "Use the tools wisely" would be insultingly redundant, so instead: "Enjoy!" Gog the Mild (talk) 20:39, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

TFA[edit]

Thank you today for Lancaster's chevauchée of 1346, of "Hundred Years' War. The war in Gascony was crucial to the events of the war in 1346, but was overshadowed by the English victory at Crécy in August. The Earl of Lancaster had successfully kept the cream of the French army away from Crecy by holding out at the Siege of Aiguillon before south west France was stripped of troops to face Edward III in north east France. Lancaster then took 2,000 men and cut a swathe through French territory on a mounted raid lasting seven weeks, covering 350 miles, capturing numerous French towns and castles, and sacking the provincial capital ..."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Digital media use and mental health FA nom[edit]

Hello! Thanks for your help with this article. I was hoping you might kindly take a look at the FA review if you have time. With many kind thanks --[E.3][chat2][me] 15:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced[edit]

G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019[edit]

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A Request[edit]

Hi thank for archiving those referneces, and rescuing them at the India team. Can you please do it for the India FT at Olympics. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 20:19, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I disn't realise that you already did that for the article. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 20:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Dey subrata. As a Wikignome I aim to please; and hopefully I can't do better than anticipating your requests by an hour Face-smile.svg. (I routinely archive the links of all articles on the GoCE Requests page.) If you have any others, let me know. I have run the tool over a few possible, similar articles already. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:45, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Sure, I am tagging you at the articles which ever need such treatment. Dey subrata (talk) 20:59, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

India[edit]

Hello:

I have finished a copy edit of the upcoming TFY article India. Fowler&fowler who has done a lot of work recently on the article was in touch with me and I have given him a couple of suggestions to improve the article.

In any event, it is in good shape for its TFY appearance.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Twofingered Typist That is a fine job of work. Thanks.
You will be pleased, I assume, to hear that the last eleven TFAs for October seemed straight forward and that I have done the necessary. So no more big asks until the first batch from November is posted. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
@Gog the Mild: You're welcome. No problem with posting them. They're a welcome break from articles on albums and video games Face-smile.svg and I enjoy working on them. Cheers, Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:58, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Cheeky queue-jumping request dressed as an 'offer'[edit]

Hi again - you were good enough to offer me advice (and to put up with my excitedness) when I was working on Margaret Macpherson Grant recently. I was able to convince Walkers Shortbread to donate some images (no free shortbread, unfortunately), and have now nominated it for GA. If you're interested, I'd love to work with you on a review - only if you fancy it though of course, if you're busy or not that fussed I will of course wait my turn in the queue. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 21:42, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! GirthSummit (blether) 22:07, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark[edit]

G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019 GOCE Newsletter[edit]

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Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since June 2019.

June election: Reidgreg was chosen as lead coordinator, and is being assisted by Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Tdslk, and first-time coordinator Twofingered Typist. Jonesey95 took a respite after serving for six years. Thanks to everyone who participated!

June Blitz: From 16 to 22 June, we copy edited articles on the themes of nature and the environment along with requests. 12 participating editors completed 35 copy edits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

July Drive: The year's fourth backlog-elimination drive was a great success, clearing all articles tagged in January and February, and bringing the copy-editing backlog to a low of five months and a record low of 585 articles while also completing 48 requests. Of the 30 people who signed up, 29 copyedited at least one article, a participation level last matched in May 2015. Final results and awards are listed here.

August Blitz: From 18 to 24 August, we copy edited articles tagged in March 2019 and requests. 12 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: As of 03:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 413 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stood at 599 articles, close to our record month-end low of 585.

Requests page: We are experimenting with automated archiving of copy edit requests; a discussion on REQ Talk (permalinked) initiated by Bobbychan193 has resulted in Zhuyifei1999 writing a bot script for the Guild. Testing is now underway and is expected to be completed by 3 October; for this reason, no manual archiving of requests should be done until the testing period is over. We will then assess the bot's performance and discuss whether to make this arrangement permanent.

September Drive: Our current backlog-elimination drive is open until 23:59 on 30 September (UTC) and is open to all copy editors. Sign up today!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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Some shortbread for you[edit]

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There's more where this came from... GirthSummit (blether) 15:45, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Will work for shortbread. @Girth Summit: Many thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:47, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Chartwell[edit]

Thanks for your comments. Absolutely understand that my style will never be to all tastes. But I very much appreciate your broad view. KJP1 (talk) 23:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019[edit]

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Congratulations![edit]

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On behalf of the members of WikiProject Military history, in recognition of your election to the position of Coordinator, I take great pleasure in presenting you with the Coordinator's stars, and wish you the best luck in the coming year! Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Still feeling "...a little precocious in making this nomination"? :) I had a feeling you'd be a prime candidate for coordinatorship if you stepped forward, and I'm glad to see you did.
@TomStar81: Yes. I am still very new round here, and the fact that I now have a grip on a small corner of Wikipedia has illuminated just how much darkness surrounds it. And thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Great to work with you in the same team. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 16:57, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
@CPA-5: Yes. Congratulations on your elevation too. It will be good to work together on something different. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:59, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Another feather in your cap, Gog. Bravo. 47thPennVols (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Whom or who[edit]

May I ask you a question? I struggle to master the word whom, but I do not know when you have to use? I asked numerous people like Americans and my English teacher in the past but they do not know how to explain to me or they've never mastered it at all. I know you can say the word if it is about a lot of people like this example "The attack took place who killed 200 people whom of which 50 were British, 50 were American and rest were other groups and nationalities"? But could you kindly explain to me how to master the word? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:24, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

@CPA-5: Try reading the usage notes at the bottom of here. Any clearer? When in doubt use "who"; most people do, even when, technically, it's wrong. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
  • English is a really complicated language in cases of its exceptions like I know some people to whom struggle the usages of "its" and "it's", "your" and "you're", "who's" and "whose", "affect" and "effect", "here", "hear" and even "hair", "their", "they're", "there" and "there're" and others. I think I know when to use the word "whom". You say it after the preposition or as in who is an object of a verb case. Example in a question of identity or a name like "To whom are you chatting with?" or "My friend's cat just died, he was a great cat to whom was loved by my friend." right? Or "The King of Belgium arrived in the City of London, with whom he took his son with him."? Am I wrong in these example sentences (I made themself up not had stolen from a dictionary)? Urban dictionary helped me a lot "if they're correct" with trying to explain it to me. I had to think like really deep to understand the usage. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
The majority of native speakers get most of those wrong. IMO non-native speakers don't have a chance. Let's not even think about pronunciation. "Though the tough cough and hiccough, plough him through." Though is pronounced as slow, tough as huff, and cough rhymes with off. Hiccough is pronounced as hick-cup, plough rhymes with how, and through with you. Six uses of "ough", each pronounced differently.
I am not a good person to ask. I don't actually 'know' most of the rules, I just have a good sense from experience as to what sounds correct.
Your examples. One would say, or write - written English is more formal than spoken:
  1. Either "Who are you chatting with?" OR "With whom are you chatting?"
  2. "a great cat who was loved" In this sentence the cat is he or she and "if you use he or she, then you use the subject pronoun who".
  3. Your sentence is grammatically incorrect and I struggle to see how it can be recast to include either who or whom. Maybe 'The King of Belgium, who was accompanied by his son, arrived in the City of London"?
Who (pronoun)#Usage of whom may, or may not, help.
Possibly one of my more erudite talk page stalkers will come along to help you out. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:45, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I know "whom" is probably one of the hardest words with one of the hardest grammatical rules in the English language but probably when I master the rule/word it already would be dated. Because first, no one knows how to use it and second non- or native speakers already use who instead. It's already archaic in English colloquial, so it wouldn't surprise me to see it dying off in the coming decades. But do not worry I will search until I find the answer to master it. BTW the first example was so close just a one-word difference was so close oh well. I'm still young and I learn every day about the English language. Hopefully, you do too? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:17, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I agree - whom is not an important word to get right, the vast majority of English speakers allready never use it. I think that if one is aware of one's inadequacies and immersed in the language, one is bound to improve. Certainly my English has broadened since I have been busy on Wikipedia - the constant feedback helps. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:55, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I finally got it. Yes my suborn never leave me behind but I finally understand the word whom and when to use it. It even makes sense is some sentences. It just took me two full days to try to understand the concept. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 16:25, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Good. Face-smile.svg Gog the Mild (talk) 16:36, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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Barnstar[edit]

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I congratulate you on your elevation to the ruling junta of Milhist. Chetsford (talk) 00:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Chetsford: Now then, is that any way to address a superior officer? The beatings shall continue until morale improves. He, he; seriously, many thanks. I shall endeavour to continue the standards of my illustrious predecessors. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 September 2019[edit]

Barnstar for you[edit]

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To be honest, you seem to have accumulated more than enough of these things in the relatively short time that you've been here, but I guess that's what good old hard work will do... Thanks for your diligent reviews of Capture of Wakefield, helping refine that article, and hopefully help me build a blueprint for future related articles. Your advice is sound, but also your willingness to engage and explain your reasoning when required. Mostly, thank you for helping this user, who has a tendency to waffle, to "put it more shortly"! Harrias talk 12:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

@Harrias: One can never have too much appreciation. I am pleased that you found my input into the article useful. I look forward to seeing it at FAC. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Favour to ask[edit]

G'day Gog, as you are a newly-minted coord, would you mind verifying my personal tally for Backlog Banzai? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:22, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Even my maths can handle that. Done. Gog the Mild (talk) 08:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
It has been a challenge for me, I can tell you... Thanks. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:47, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
@Peacemaker67: Should have asked me. I like playing with numbers. Would you like me to do the placings? Gog the Mild (talk) 08:50, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Still waiting on GELongstreet, who apparently was keeping entries off the page then pasting them in, and still has more to add according to their last edit summary. I've pinged them. I wouldn't mind a hand with handing out the gongs though. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:56, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
I'm also giving everyone a day or so to repechage my tallying before handing out the gongs, in case I mucked it up. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:03, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
@Peacemaker67: No problem with handing out the awards. Just point me at the wording; or should I just copy last year's?
I make Vami IV's total 7,231, not 7,021. Do you want to double check? Would you like me to check the others?
I assume that we are doing no quality control on the adequacy of the work, especially the assessing?
Yes, GELongstreet has tagged articles they haven't yet put on the worklist.
It got pretty competitive this year. Clearly got the juices going. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Feel free to check and modify my terrible maths. I've done no quality control, as I am AGF on things being done properly. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:39, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
@Peacemaker67: Done. Other than Vami IV I have only changed Penny Richards', as most of their new articles had been assessed as being B class but not noted as such on the worklist. Separately, and between you and me, some of the assessing by some assessors seems so random that I wonder if they have even looked at the article. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. That's one of the issues with drives, it's impossible to ensure quality due to the volume. I'll let you know when we can start handing out the gongs. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:51, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── We're on. Could you please hand out the one, two and three stripes, the WikiChevrons and my Barnstar? The templates are in the Military history awards section of the Coords Handbook page except for the Barnstar, for that the template is on the Barnstars page. I'll do the rest. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Done. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Cape Ecnomus maps[edit]

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Do you still want maps for the articles, as requested here last February? Happy to help if you're interested in me sorting out the request. Amitchell125 (talk) 21:02, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Amitchell125, that would be wonderful. The article is, IMO, more or less ready for FAC, but for want of a map. I am not sure how clear I was in my original request. The map to the right - File:CapeEcnomus.png - is almost what I would like, but sadly is inaccurate. Possibly you could use it as the base for a revised version - yes. If so, I could list the changes I would like, and/or provide links to more accurate, but copyrighted, maps. Does that make sense? I am about to go to bed, but will now do so with a smile on my face.
Gog the Mild (talk) 21:18, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
The map shown here is here is easy to produce as an svg file, which can be amended in any way you see fit. I'll get back to you. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 05:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
I have made an SVG copy of the file (see it here), as a start. Let me know where you want to go with it, and I'll start work on it (even starting from scratch is OK, as it currently looks rather unlike the source it was derived from). Amitchell125 (talk) 07:45, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @Amitchell125: That looks fine. Can we start with just the top sub-map.

  1. The Carthaginian navy was in total slightly more numerous that the Roman. I think that the best way to address this is to lengthen the lines representing their wings, to match the length of their centre. (See the Goldsworthy source that you refer to for how they outflanked the Romans.
  2. The Carthaginians only had three squadrons, so could you move the "3" to where the "4" is, and scrap the 4.
  3. The Roman squadrons were all approximately the same size. So could the line currently labeled III be shrunk to about the same size as I and II.
  4. The Romans had four squadrons. So could "III" be replaced by "IV" and a new line be introduced immediately to the left of the horse transports and be labeled III. (At this point this squadron was towing the transports.)
  5. Could the legend be changed to "I, II, III, IV Roman squadrons" and "1, 2, 3 Carthaginian squadrons">

Does that all make sense and is it doable?

Many thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! Much appreciated. Amitchell125 (talk) 11:04, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Featured list nomination[edit]

Hi, I am bringing to your notice that, I have nominated the article of "List of international goals scored by Sunil Chhetri", where you also helped me to rescue those citation for the article. Though almost reviewed substatially by editors, but still would like if you leave a comment at my 1st FLC nomination. And also my 2nd FLC nomination, its the "List of highest individual scores in ODIs" where you helped in copyediting and also archived the citations. I will truly appreciate your words in both of these nominations. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 21:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Balkan taskforce[edit]

Hi, Gog the Mild. When you reverted my changes you mentioned that "the countries included in the Balkans region for the purposes of this [Military History Project] task force are Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, the Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Moldova, Romania, Slovenia and Turkey.". Just wanted to ask you which criteria apply when deciding whether a military history article belongs to a country's area of interest: the battle site (whether it is currently included within the borders of the respective state or was part of that respective country), the belligerents? Many thanks in advance. Mentatus (talk) 21:58, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mentatus The situation is not intuitively clear, and I am too close to it. Apologies, I could probably have given a better edit summary. For MilHist purposes, only, an article is tagged as "Balkan" if it has sufficient connection with one of the countries listed, which don't have separate MilHist task forces. So if, for example, Romanian troops were involved, then it would be so tagged. To pick a random example, Romanian armies in the Battle of Stalingrad is so tagged despite Stalingrad being some way from the Balkans. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:09, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
OK, thanks for clearing that up. This means that other articles (such as Battle of Kőhalom or Petrozsény Campaign) must be also included in the area of interest of the Balkan task force. Mentatus (talk) 22:22, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
@Mentatus: Yes please. That would be helpful. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:32, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations![edit]

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A Barnstar for you![edit]

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Map of route of Black Prince chevauchée of 1355[edit]

G'day Gog, I have been working through the creation of the map for this chevauchée. Can you review proposed map here and provide any comments. I know that Foix county name and Tarn river identifiers need moving. Are there any additional towns or regions to be shown on the map? I am looking forward to the next work of yours. Regards Newm30 (talk) 02:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Newm30, that looks excellent. I am very happy with it and very appreciative of the work that has gone into it. If "Armagnac" could be moved down and right a little - perhaps to be centred on the River Gors, perhaps just above Mirande - that would be a little more accurate. But that is a minor detail; I am impressed. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:01, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

September 2019 GOCE drive bling[edit]

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Thanks for your work on the drive, and congrats on your Milhist Coordinatorship. I'll try to review the TFA copyedit situation and see if the GOCE coordinators can take some of that off of your hands. –  Reidgreg (talk) 17:18, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Reidgreg and thanks for the bling. Nice to see the backlog at an all-time low. I did a couple myself on the 30th hoping that we might get under 500, but I expect that we will in November. A little help with TFAs would be appreciated. Mostly it is going through FAs which passed more than 8 or 9 years ago, when standards were different. There is rarely very much to do. Those which I think may be problematic I either do myself or put on Requests. The MilHist thing promises to be a steep learning curve and a heap of work, but you would know all about that. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:48, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
That sounds like a job for me (finding work for other editors to do). I muddled through some of the talk pages and then watchlisted Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 1, 2019, so hopefully I'll notice when the next batch are ready. Do they usually get queued about a month in advance? I can look at the next batch or split them with you. I just don't want you to suffer burnout, with everything else on top of your new coordinator duties. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:57, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
@Reidgreg: I was going to argue, but then thought that indeed, it is a job for the GoCE lead coordinator. But I worry about you burning out. Perhaps we can agree a staged transfer of responsibility to GoCE? I don't really know how the TFA process works behind the scenes; my liaison is Dank. He seems to feel that I do a competent job, so given that you taught me three quarters of what I know about copy editing for Wikipedia I imagine that he will approve of your work too.
I do not fully read every article – I triage out the more recent FACs, especially ones which I have personally read or commented on while they were at FAC (or earlier); FAs by frequent FA nominators which have been maintained or have received few edits since FAC; FACs from the past five or six years where the combined edit history since promotion shows few changes, and those mostly improvements. Any which will be obviously popular among the more "drive-by" of editors - India, Hillary Clinton, Taylor Swift, to take some recent examples - I either give the full treatment myself or post on Requests. This usually leaves a bulky residue for a more detailed look. I don't worry about trying to bring every TFA from 10 or 12 years ago up to what would currently be considered an acceptable level of prose and MoS-compliance – I rather try to remove any more obvious "errors". To a large extent this applies to all TFAs, but if more eyes were available, perhaps more could be done in this respect. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:49, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
That all sounds right. Two or three people looking at them would be great ... 10 or 20 would not. - Dank (push to talk) 16:31, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
@Dank: It'll probably end up being two or three doing the checking, and possibly passing individual articles to others if substantial work is needed. We currently have five GOCE coordinators (including myself as lead), plus a number of other helpful volunteers such as our esteemed Gog. After I read up a bit more, I'll poll them about taking over this task and ping you in on the discussion. I expect to be busy toward the end of this month, for example, and I don't feel that I can commit myself to checking all of them in a timely manner. We'll find a way to split up the articles; more hands make lighter work.
Thanks for offering, and thanks in advance for the ping. - Dank (push to talk) 10:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
@Gog the Mild: I wouldn't take it all on, and have honestly been feeling guilty that you got stuck with it. I'll find some way to share the work at GOCE. I've been prepping my annual work for WP:CAN10K and am hoping to contribute to a Women in Red stubathon, so trying to schedule these around the hard deadlines. Since you've checked October, we should have some time to figure things out. – Reidgreg (talk) 04:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project[edit]

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Six-day war[edit]

If you search "Iran six day war", you see there are not so many sources about this. So I don't think this is possible to find a RS. However, this article (in Persian) only says "Iran provided oil for Israel during Arab-Israeli wars." I know Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but this article says: "During the 1967 Six-Day War, Iran supplied Israel with essential oil and petroleum."

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox military unit[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019[edit]

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Akane Yamaguchi[edit]

Hello. This article is too long, need to omit some unnecessary paragraphs, help summarize this article (and copy edit). Thanks you. Olascf (talk) 13:58, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Olascf: It may well be, why are you sharing this with me? Can I suggest posting your request at GoCE? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes.Olascf (talk) 14:13, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
@Olascf: For clarity, I mean that if you post your request at GoCE it is likely that one of their editors will be able to help you. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:15, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
But it takes time. Olascf (talk) 14:17, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes. We're volunteers. We do this for fun. You just have to wait. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Neville's Cross[edit]

Hi Gog, a couple of questions if you have a minute pls:

@JennyOz:
  • Aftermath "In early 1346 two English forces..." - is 1346 the right year?
Doh! No. Should be 1347. Thanks.
  • Black Rood, I was going to link it to Black Rood of Scotland but that redirects to Holyrood dab page. The redirect was done back in Nov 2009. I think the redirect should change to Holyrood (cross), which was created Dec 2009. It already has a bold "Black Rood of Scotland" and section. What you think?
Yes, it's Holyrood (cross). And I don't think that it should be in italics.

Regards, JennyOz (talk) 15:02, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping an eye on this Jenny. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:25, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
OK thanks, tweaks now done, JennyOz (talk) 17:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:58, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Good Article Backlog Drive Barnstar[edit]

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Request for help with a potential FAC[edit]

Hello. I hope you are having a wonderful week so far. Thank you for your input at the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Deactivators/archive3. I must admit that I have a lot to learn about becoming a better reviewer, and I find it helpful to see how other editors respond to different types of review. If you have the time or interest, I was wondering if you could do a cursory glace through the Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Wrath of the Darkhul King article. I am interested in putting it up for an FAC sometime in the future, but I am unfamiliar with video game articles. I thought asking for second opinions would be beneficial to avoid nominating something that is potentially unprepared for the FAC space . Apologies for the complete randomness of the request. Aoba47 (talk) 00:20, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Aoba47. I have no experience of reviewing video game articles whatsoever. This is the first I have ever so much as read. Given your illustrious history with FAs I am not sure what I can offer. That said, I would be happy to go through article, posting any suggestions to the talk page and copy editing as required. I'll get round to this over the next day or two, unless you ask me not to; if you do, I won't be the slightest offended. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:17, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the response! Upon further reflection, I think it would be better to wait as I am currently on a wikibreak to focus on more off-Wikipedia activities and I am trying to limit my time on here lol. Thank you again. Aoba47 (talk) 21:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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A pie for you![edit]

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg Thanks for this edit [1] The Bot has been complaining about it all weekend and I had just gotten around to looking for the problem when you found it for, Thx. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:25, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Why Hawkeye7, thank you. I didn't know you cared. Face-wink.svg There seemed to be a similar issue with Talk:Yugoslav destroyer Ljubljana, fixed by this. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

I can't see any problem with that one, but I'll run a test to be sure. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
@Hawkeye7: They both showed up in "Need project tag fixed" and they both went away after I made the identical rearrangement of the order of "A Class=current" and "Class=GA". So I would have expected them both to cause the bot a similar issue. (Or both to cause none. One irritating the bot and one not seems odd.) Gog the Mild (talk) 00:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
There was a newline after the pipe. This is valid, but the Bot thought there was no parameter there, so it couldn't find the A-Class parameter. I made a small change to tell it that this is valid, and it will accept this form now. What you did to fix my problem was remove the newline. This saved me from having to figure out what was wrong. The Bot can process the original now, sop the problem will not recur. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks Hawkeye, and happy that I was able to help. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Baker Street[edit]

Hi Gog, I hope all is well. You were kind enough to provide some comments at the Baker Street robbery PR; this has now moved on to FAC. If you have sufficient time or inclination, I'd be most grateful to hear any further comments. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 15:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

On it. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:37, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 GOCE blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE October 2019 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 11:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

A cookie for you[edit]

Choco chip cookie.png for expanding Battle of Lagos‎. Eastfarthingan (talk) 22:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Why thank you Eastfarthingan, that is appreciated. I have noticed you keeping an eye on my progress. I hope that you like the end result. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:37, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome - it's spot on. Eastfarthingan (talk) 22:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
@Eastfarthingan: Good. I have an eye on Battle of Quiberon Bay - a more complex article - as a target sometime soonish. I don't know if that is also one you are keeping an eye on. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:51, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Excellent.. I'll be rubbing my hands with glee. Eastfarthingan (talk) 22:54, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355 [edit]

Gog, you've got this at WP:TFAP for October 2020. Ealdgyth has this on her tentative list for next month ... does that work for you? - Dank (push to talk) 14:11, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

@Dank: That works fine, thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:24, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
I made it so. - Dank (push to talk) 19:55, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Well done[edit]

Well done, reverting all the mischief, by our anonymous, IP-hopping, citevar troll. Thanks! Mathglot (talk) 05:50, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Can you block this guy?[edit]

User:IWannaBeTheVeryWorst is persistently vandalizing pages. Could you please block him, and maybe perform an IP check?

(Sorry if you're not the one to contact for this, I'm new here. I just know you're an admin.)

Thanks. Aven13 —Preceding undated comment added 11:53, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Aven13, I'm not an administrator, so I can't block users. The page to notify vandalism on is Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I suspect that another warning or two on their talk page will be needed first. I will try to keep an eye on them, but if you notice them vandalising again, could you let me know. And thanks a lot for flagging up the issue rather than just letting it go. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 October 2019[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your hard work on military history and featured content and contribution to the 10,000 Challenge. Much appreciated! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:31, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Why Dr. Blofeld, how generous of you. That is most unexpected and much appreciated. Depending on the answer to my queries here, I may be able to add some more to the challenge. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:32, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Obstructing edit by a thick skin[edit]

Check the history of the 2020 ICC Women's T20 World Cup article. He/She has done it previously at 2020 ICC Men's T20 World Cup and at ICC Men's T20 World Cup there were dead links too where the editor reverted the archiving. At 2020 ICC Women's T20 World Cup I can't revert again, as that user is trying to get a chance of edit war to bring AIV against me. The user is kind of dispalying as if he/she owns the articles. He/She previously too did not allow me to edit in those articles and accuse me of following the editor which I have no interest in. Please address and revert his edits at the article. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 11:44, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Dey subrata: I have no desire either to get into an edit war. Especially not with a very experienced editor and especially not on an article about which I know little. I suspect that it may be helpful to take an administrator's view. I don't know of one who is knowledgeable in this area, although Ahunt might [?] Alternatively you could post the issue here - Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.
Er, at the risk of stating the obvious and not wishing to be condescending, I assume that you have already discussed the issue with lugnuts in similar terms to those above without a satisfactory outcome? Just checking. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:41, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
You might bring this to User:CambridgeBayWeather, he is an admin with some experience in these sorts of things and I find he is quite judicious in his decision. - Ahunt (talk) 13:51, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ahunt: Thank for the suggestion, I will surely ask him. Gog, I will try out that too. Dey subrata (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019[edit]

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ACR 'fix'[edit]

Can I ask what you fixed with this diff: [2]? The ACR instructions say to "Add A-Class=current to the {{WPMILHIST}} project banner at the top of the article's talk page (this should be added immediately after the class= or list= field, see the project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax)." As far as I can tell I correctly inserted the A-class= field after the class= field, and the diff doesn't appear to make any technical difference to the banner. If it is breaking something doing it this way around, then we should change the ACR instructions. Harrias talk 21:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Harrias. That explains where they keep coming from. This causes them to show up in "Need project tag fixed" here. Moving the "A-Class=current" removes them. I have no idea why. Peacekeeper and I take turns at housekeeping. I shall ask them about changing the ACR instructions. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Ah, I did wonder if it was something like that. The best solution would probably be to fix the script that populates that category so that it reads the template correctly, but short of that, changing the ACR instructions might be the easiest fix. Harrias talk 21:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Or stop having it reported as needing fixing when the "fix" seems to make no functional difference. I'll kick it upstairs and see what they make of it. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Fall of Phnom Penh[edit]

Hi Gog, if you have time to take a look at Fall of Phnom Penh I'd appreciate it. Unfortunately there are no free use photos available. thanks Mztourist (talk) 06:22, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mztourist: what a wonderful piece of work. I assume that you mean could I assess it against the B class criteria? All fine except the very last sentence. The whole world knows it, but it needs a cite.
Can I strongly urge you to submit this for GAN? Liaise with me and I'll pick it up myself - a, relatively, painfree experience guaranteed. This is an important topic, and with what you have done so far FA is within reach; GA should be the minimum, especially as it is virtually there. And, no offence intended, it would be good for you to have your prose and MoS-compliance poked at; I know that I write better for the regular kickings my articles get at FAC. I have resisted the impulse to copy edit, but I will tidy it up for you if you submit it for GAN. Deal?
Gog the Mild (talk) 07:08, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Gog, I've added the ref. B class review is fine. regards Mztourist (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Mztourist, you are an excellent but exasperating editor. I suspect that you have been told this before Face-smile.svg. Think on't. (A joint nom? Hmm?) Gog the Mild (talk) 07:50, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
I've gone through the hoops of GA before and while its nice to have hard work recognized I can't really be bothered with it. Mztourist (talk) 08:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Fair nuff. Gog the Mild (talk) 08:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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