User talk:Jac16888

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Ten years of adminship[edit]

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Wishing Jac16888 a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 00:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Recent Edit[edit]

Hello, I have received your message about the neutral point of view. I will do my best to adjust and try to make it seem neutral. I am just trying to raise awareness of this clinic so people know what our objective is in helping the public.

Thank you Fazrah00 (talk) 05:53, 20 October 2018 (UTC) Fazal Rahman Fazrah00 (talk) 05:53, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Fazel. Raising awareness is not what Wikipedia is for, that is promotion, and not allowed here. As you are clearly connected to the clinic, you have a conflict of interest, and therefore shouldn't be writing about it at all--Jac16888 Talk 09:01, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

What I mean by raising awareness is by having it available to the public for research when looking it up and the history of it. I am not part of the clinic and I am a college student in fact that knows a lot about the clinic from past research projects. I have spoken to multiple people there so I have sources and I find that I am best fit to be able to write about it. The person who began this clinic has a history of what they have accomplished which I was trying to write about since they are an upcoming figure in the the communities. I'm not even mainly writing about the clinic, but it was just something that this person was a founder of and his dream of it.

Fazrah00 (talk) 03:24, 22 October 2018 (UTC)Fazal Rahman

I suggest writing the article as a WP:DRAFTS and submitting it through the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process--Jac16888 Talk 15:55, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of User's Sandbox.[edit]

Dear Jac16888,

I am writing you to discuss your decision to delete my sandbox page. The outcomes I am looking for are either: 1) My sandbox page is restored. or 2) I receive the most recent version of my sandbox page, before you deleted it. If outcome 2 is selected, I would take my page to an external website and host it outside of If outcome 1 is selected, that would be the end of the situation. I hope at least to get a copy of it before deletion back.

Cheers, Ckulsen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckulsen (talkcontribs) 20:50, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I have restored the page, temporarily, however it does not belong on Wikipedia in the slightest, 48 hours from now I will delete it again--Jac16888 Talk 21:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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Edits on Ecofeminism[edit]

Hello, I am a student editor and this was my first time ever editing wikipedia. I did all my work for the article in my sandbox, including adding my citations. I was under the impression that I could simply copy and paste my contribution and the citations would also transfer. I saw your edit and realized that it did not work that way and I have gone back and added the citations. Thank you for making sure that my contribution was up to wikipedias standards and I am happy to answer any other questions you have regarding my article! Thanks! Hasmit06 (talk) 18:32, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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Citing images[edit]

Hi. I saw your edit to one of the references to an image that I inserted. I wasn't quite sure how to cite one of WP's images, and (understandably) couldn't find a cite template for it, so I tried to analogize from the existing style output by the cite templates. Is the practice documented somewhere? I understand the general guidance on not citing WP, but this seems to be a reasonable case, where official sources don't seem to exist, so it seems reasonable to rely on pics of the mileposts to testify as to the MP values, right? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:03, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Alan, it wasn't the image I had an issue with, just the including of the editor/photographer who took it, which is covered by MOS:CREDITS--Jac16888 Talk 12:06, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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Deletion of a page[edit]

Hey, I was wondering why my article got deleted without any feedback given. The page was for a school project. I would love to know why the page got deleted and how I can improve the page to not be deleted for the future. Thanks.KJarvis.2 (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

It wasn't deleted, I moved it back to your sandbox, User:KJarvis.2/sandbox, and I could tell it was a school project because it read like homework, not an encyclopedia article. I suggest looking at articles for other mathematical concepts to see how they should be written--Jac16888 Talk 15:13, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Adam Smith Institute comments[edit]

Don't have a problem with you deleting my comments under two of the topics and saying they belong on the article talk page, but I tried to find out how I should do that and couldn't, so any advice greatly appreciated.

What I'd really like to see is those two topics removed completely pending someone addressing my concerns.

Can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwrangler (talkcontribs) 02:19, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Okay! I think I've cracked it!

But how can I remove the original sections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwrangler (talkcontribs) 02:42, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

If the content is not appropriate, you can just delete it, but unless you justify it well it may be reverted. Perhaps reach out to other editors of the article and ask them to weigh in on the discussion you've started on the talk page--Jac16888 Talk 12:45, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2018[edit]

Refeing on Wikipedia that contain a valid Reference[edit]

Thank's for your contribution.

I do not know the rules in en.wikipedia.

In the German Wikipedia it is also specified that Wikipeida is not a valid source. But if the reference content on Wikipedia-Page has a valid external Reference, as for example Huber Price has a valid source there is no rule that is allowed/vorbitten to refer on that, since the contense is from Wikipedia, but proved with an external source, therefore this quoted content gets reliable even it is in the unreliable Wikipedia.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 17:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

In such a case could you not just reference the external source directly, instead of referencing a use of it? --Jac16888 Talk 18:31, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
There are three reasons why it does not make sence to just reference the external source directly:
  • Since it's not wrong, and therefore it is a matter of taste and therfore I would give the original author the desition.
  • I think it is a matter of honor/reputation to also quote the author, where you found out this information, from a "not valid" source, but also quote the valid primary/original source. (As I did.)
  • And links often break (not all them get archived), Wikipedia's difflinks break very unlikely (Except there is a personal attack, or a copyright-violation.).
What would you do if
  • It referes to a book, or another source that you can't get easily?
  • What if the Wikipedia uses two sources and use the explantation of a third book to come to a new conclusion, than you will need the whole text of Wikipedia, to know how to combine the three proved statements to get the new specific statement, which you need.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 08:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Honestly I think you're over-thinking this. A) The original author is the reference itself, not the editor who linked to it elsewhere. B) Again the information comes from the reference, honour has nothing to do it with it and I can't see that somebody is going to be offended because you used a reference that they have also used. C) I don't see how a broken link would be any different from a difflink, you're still pointing to a reference that can't be found. To answer your questions, A) You can use a book as a source the same as anything else, B) I'm pretty sure that would consitutute original research. The point is, regardless of how things are done on the German Wikipedia, here on the English Wikipedia you cannot use an another article (or any history of it) as a reference.--Jac16888 Talk 16:06, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2019[edit]

Page not live[edit]

Hi Jac16888 I received a message from you about a picture I had on my page that wasn't valid. I just wanted to let you know that I have created my page and published it but it doesn't appear on Wikipedia? Your assistance on how to get my page live would be great. Numerous other pages and articles have mentioned me and I would like to get my own page up asap. THanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chumehelepola (talkcontribs) 22:49, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Please see WP:AUTOBIO--Jac16888 Talk 23:16, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Response to notification (& newbie schooling requested:)[edit]

Hi Jac, I'm writing in response to 2 notifications I received and am hoping you can provide some clarity. The 1st notification was letting me know that an anonymous user created the msg listed below, and the 2nd notification was saying you removed it. I never found their msg where other msgs are shown on my talk page; I only saw what the user wrote by clicking on the "last edited by..." button. I'm obviously new and apologize for your extra work, but would you mind taking the time to explain what happened? If that user edited my talk page, and the original & revert both showed up on my notifications, did they have access to my account? Or was it just another new user that made an honest mistake & you erased it? Thank you! Here's a copy of what the user posted:

User talk:MinorEnglishMajor 266 BYTES ADDED, 22 HOURS AGO →‎SVU: Episode Manhunt 2001: new section


(Please note that this msg & the following msg were intended to send as one. The msg below is a copy of the the anonymous user's post on my talk page) MinorEnglishMajor (talk) 08:07, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@MinorEnglishMajor: Hi there. The anon editor was a long term troll who badgers people with inane questions and never accepts answer. In this case, they decided to harrass yourself so I removed it from your talk page. They don't have access to your account though, just the ability to write you a message. You can see the history of your talk page by looking on the view history tab--Jac16888 Talk 15:05, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@Jac16888: Good looking out! I'm glad you deleted it before I saw the msg because I'd probably still be going round & round.. Thanks for saving me the confusion & hassle. Cheers! MinorEnglishMajor (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2019 (UTC)


I keep receiving messages from you. What am I doing wrong and how do I have a wiki page set up for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Classic Buck$ (talkcontribs) 05:27, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019[edit]

Cleanup HTML template[edit]

Regarding this change, I'm not sure what the downside would be, exactly? Was there another way you would prefer to solve this problem? -- Beland (talk) 21:47, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

What if you leave? Or are unable to contribute anymore? It's not exactly a good idea to have a specific editor as the go-to person for something like this, a Wikipedia page would be better--Jac16888 Talk 16:00, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Well, then I would change the template. But I've since changed the template to take a "tags" parameter to help people out, and listed the known bad tags on the linked instruction page. -- Beland (talk) 23:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
(I'm already the only person updating the moss project, so if I disappear that would also all break down unless someone else took it over. At least it's open source.) -- Beland (talk) 23:40, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page[edit]

Hi, You deleted my recent contribution, I would like to fix the issue you were talking about and resubmit it however I can not find it anywhere. Can you please point me to the location that I can find the deleted article in? Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aursal (talkcontribs) 22:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I cannot restore the page because it contained a copyright violation (as well as being blatantly promotional). If you would like to write an article you need to do so in your own words, in a neutral manner and using multiple references from reliable third party sources--Jac16888 Talk 22:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Back to draft[edit]


I see that you moved my page back to draft as it was overly promotional. Can you please point me in the right direction and say which part(s) so I can correct it and improve it? I appreciate the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talkcontribs) 12:58, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

All of it was promotional, it reads like a company website. I'd suggest reading Wikipedia:Your first article as a start--Jac16888 Talk 20:24, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


OK, thank you. I read the link you provided, read a few similar pages and decided to remove what I thought was the promotional material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talkcontribs) 07:55, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

That is better, except for the "Points of Distinction" section which is still too promotional. Deal with that, and then I recommend submitting it to the WP:AFC procedure for further review--Jac16888 Talk 17:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I really appreciate the help. You've been really helpful. I made the changes you suggested submitted AFC. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristijanwh (talkcontribs) 10:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Reckless(2010 novel) listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Krujë Castle[edit]

Hello Jac16888,

I am writing to discuss about the reason you removed some of my contributions from the article I was editing. I would like to know what I did wrong so I can fix it. Regards, RezartoRezarto (talk) 21:35, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

@Rezarto:. The issue is that you referenced your addition to your sandbox, as opposed to an actual reference. Please read the instructions at WP:REF for how to do it properly.--Jac16888 Talk 21:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Marie C. Brehm[edit]

Hi there,

Just saw your removal of the content at Marie C. Brehm with citations that pointed to a sandbox. Thanks for pointing that out. Looks to be resolved, but I thought I'd leave a brief note of explanation because it's a common error you'll probably see again. I remember I was confused the first time I saw it. Basically, when you want to copy material from a sandbox, you need to first enter edit mode, then copy everything. Doing so will preserve the references when pasted into the article. If you forget to enter edit mode first, it just copies the footnotes as what they fundamentally are -- links to that page's references section (but not the references themselves). Of course, nobody's obliged to fix such errors when spotted, but if you feel inclined, it's usually an easy fix. :) Thanks. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

It is already a common problem, and seems to be getting worse (see User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed)#A question on references and my recent contributions for more). It needs to be made clear to the students doing this that it is incorrect and very problematic, and I believe they are more likely to learn from their error if they have to re-do the edits themselves correctly, which is why I have been removing the content altogether and then notifying the student--Jac16888 Talk 19:07, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Coralie Franklin Cook[edit]

Fixed the citation that you had noted linked to our sandbox. Thanks for pointing that out! --Khughes23 (talk) 19:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Good job, thanks--Jac16888 Talk 19:08, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


Well it looks like the creator of Dharwadi did put it in English but reverted all the refs. Not sure to revert it back or not. As that one was short but at least had a references. (I usually revert to the last clean edit in most cases) Wgolf (talk) 01:17, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Tidied it up, kept some of their text (about 1 sentence) and dumped the rest, including the pointless image--Jac16888 Talk 19:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
However the category they added was just pure brilliance--Jac16888 Talk 19:10, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Kang Woo Kyu[edit]

Dear Jac16888 Hello, I want to know that you delete the article, Kang Woo Kyu, 16:58 17 May 2019. Why do you delete the article? Is the matter of reference? I was surprised that the article of Kang Woo kyu was deleted. I want to know it. Won96 (talk) 11:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

I didn't delete it, I moved it back to your sandbox, User:Won96/sandbox, and I did that because it is not ready to be an article, it is poorly translated and unreferenced--Jac16888 Talk 19:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day![edit]

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Accademia Europea di Microbiologia[edit]

Hi! I translated the page "European Academy of Microbiology" (which I created) in Italian as "Accademia Europea di Microbiologia", but this page has been deleted. Could you please help me to understand why? How can I translate the page avoiding deletions? Is there a way to recover the deleted Italian page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lor.donz93 (talkcontribs) 12:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

@Lor.donz93: Hello. It was deleted because this is the English language Wikipedia, you would need to put it on the Italian Language Wikipedia. I have restored the Italian copy to your sandbox for you, it can be found at User:Lor.donz93/Accademia Europea di Microbiologia--Jac16888 Talk 15:30, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

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Happy Adminship Anniversary![edit]

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Happy Adminship Anniversary![edit]