User talk:Kafka Liz

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Die Fliege

miss you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

You probably know my way of mourning: dedicate an article to you, then I found a good one: Irische Legende, to be expanded from stub. Irish legend, that's you, and that it's sort of controversial, that could also be you. Say no if you want a different one. And then I'll have to find one for Malik, sad. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Isn't she from the US? (talk) 15:56, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
"legend", no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Gerda, that’s very kind. 5.69, if you are someone I know, I invite you to get in touch. Kafka Liz (talk) 21:25, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
I started he opera expansion. Kafka going to be TFA once more, - also reminding me of you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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Franz Kafka: Das Schloss
... about about alienation,
  • unresponsive bureaucracy,
  • the frustration of
  • trying to conduct business
  • with non-transparent,
  • seemingly arbitrary
  • controlling systems ...

Today, Irische Legende is on the Main page, which still has Kafka, and Louis Thiry. We experience kafkaesque stories, and received an enlightening language lesson on what "toxic behaviour" may mean by Nishidani. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you belatedly, Gerda. I’ll look at those links, and maybe they will help. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:22, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
That rings well. I have other comments but won’t voice them for fear of censure. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:30, 13 July 2019 (UTC)


Is this true? You and hubby aren't allowed to !vote in the same RfA b/c you share an IP? If that's true, there's an office (well, they like to think of themselves as OFFICE (all caps)) that might want to know how very extremely biased and prejudicial against wives that is. I know this is coming out a little sarcastic but I'm writing in all seriousness. I'm seriously outraged, to the point of starting a petition to the our new friend Katherine. Next time, !vote anyway!!! Hope all is well with you. My black kitty died last week, very suddenly in his sleep, so that was a shock. The rest is same old, same old. Victoria (tk) 00:01, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

It’s a problem I’ve had before, and many times, and I didn’t want to start the whole circus up again, especially now I’m mostly retired. I just haven’t the energy.
I’m so sorry to hear about your boy; I’d go nuts if that happened to me. Mine who have passed always showed signs beforehand. I remember making a special bed for one and sleeping next to him on the night I thought would be his last. As much as I love the two with me now, I still miss that guy. Kafka Liz (talk) 06:57, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
But you’re right: it is prejudicial, and stupid, and it’s something that seems to be invoked very selectively. Welcome to Wikipedia. Kafka Liz (talk) 07:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I'll send you email when I can bring myself to talk/write about it without tears welling up. Re the rest, I was in a bit of a mood last night, but it is biased, stupid, etc. Have you considered submitting a public request to the Bureaucrats and asking whether you're allowed to participate in RfAs if your hubby participates too? I think chilling you out is the last thing we want to be doing; we should be welcoming you. Victoria (tk) 16:58, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
You're explicitly allowed both to participate; certainly in my day a sizeable chunk of the secure Arbcom wiki was a glorified database of who was related to whom precisely so that if an overenthusiastic checkuser thought they'd uncovered a sockpuppet we could explain to them that both accounts were legitimate. I assume that data is now on some kind of checkuser database rather than arbcom, as part of the general hiving-off of powers from Arbcom (Opabinia regalis, you presumably have access both to arbwiki and to whatever the CUs use, can you confirm who's responsible for this now?), but it will certainly be held somewhere. To any CU who happens to see this, I've met both Ceoil and Liz and can confirm that they're definitely different people. TK, so sorry to hear about the cat; as with Liz, with all of mine we've at least had some warning that it was coming. ‑ Iridescent 17:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Erm, I *am* a CU, and I would have been very happy to go to the mats to support Kafka Liz's right to participate in the same RFA (or any other discussion for that matter) as Ceoil; in fact, I've kept her talk page on my watchlist just in case she needed re-upping of IPBE or some other assistance specific to this issue. I'm horribly disturbed that anyone would have told you to not participate, KL; unfortunately, I do have a suspicion of who it may have been. I can personally think of at least 40 "Wikimedia" couples, both of whom participate at varying levels and in all kinds of areas, and this is just unacceptable. Please put me on your "speed email" and then go about your business in the same way as any other editor, participating where you want and how you want. Even if I don't appear to be active onwiki, an email from you would get prompt attention. Risker (talk) 18:27, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, this "one comment per couple" idea is hot garbage and if anybody tries that argument I too would be happy to tell him off. (Somehow I feel pretty confident it'd be a him.)
As for secret databases, there's an arbcom wiki and a global checkuser wiki - the latter is mainly for cross-wiki/long-term abuse, so the local-interest stuff like who has said they're related/share an IP is still on the arbwiki. Though I don't see you in it, presumably because you don't really need a secret database to store information that isn't a secret.
Victoria, sorry to hear about your black kitty, that's so sad. Opabinia regalis (talk) 08:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
I shouldn't speak for her, but my sense is that this 2016 RfC is what's been informing KL's reluctance. If I remember correctly, though I'd have to check or maybe KL or Ceoil remember, it had to do with !voting in another RfC (probably to do with infoboxes or some such). Thanks all re cat. I keep expecting to see him next to me when I'm typing. Victoria (tk) 13:10, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Very, very sorry to hear Victoria, know from long experience how hard such loss can be, and how upsets like that can set one back :( Best wishes from Cork, you have been a great friend to both of us over the years. Ceoil (talk) 20:36, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

─────────────────────────If I recall correctly, Victoria has the right of this here. I don’t stack !votes with my husband., though we often share the same or similar opinions. I share those when I feel strongly enough, though these days that’s seldom, as I don’t participate often here any longer, for which there is a reason. That said, I am humbled by all of your support and sentiment. Thank you all, so much - it means a lot. Kafka Liz (talk) 21:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I think you can be reassured, Liz, from the above that there are some *very good* and smart, bright, people on wiki. One thing I've learned, not always fondly (to my shame)...Victoria is usually right. Ceoil (talk) 07:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
I do remember one charming man who was a shining light during maybe why you don't contribute anymore. Ceoil (talk) 23:35, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
That article was a real trial by fire. It’s a time I don’t recall fondly, but F&f was a huge, huge help, and I’m grateful for his input and insistence on the best. Almost everyone involved there worked so hard - it was great when it came through. Kafka Liz (talk) 07:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
You did a lot of major surgery there, under heavy fire. I wish I could look back now, years later, and laugh, but no. However, yes fowler was a beacon. Ceoil (talk) 07:45, 5 August 2019 (UTC)