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IP has been blocked[edit]

Lectonar, I understand your concern regarding the IP and the page protection requests.[[1]] Please note the IP editor has been blocked for block evasion [[2]]. Springee (talk) 00:53, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you; I have lifted the full protection. It's not always possible to keep track of every sockpuppet etc; only one small brain here. So next time you request protection, be so kind as to include some more info. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 07:35, 29 March 2017 (UTC)


I would never presume to make POV corrections as MLpearc. I understand this looks like an 'edit war' but mlpearc never let the changes stand long enough for me to include the references on a sentence that didn't have references to begin with. Now, I under this editor's reservations, but the fact remains that my changes to the sentence are accompanied by references.

[begin] "Apaches have endured severe economic and political disruptions, first by the Spanish, then by the Comanches, and later by the United States government." [end]

Apache land was, in fact, Apache land when the Spanish arrived in the 1620s. And it was still Apache land under Spanish 'agreements of territoriality' until the Americans invaded in 1840s. So the sentence, which I edited - and to which did not originally have a cited source either - was incorrect, and I corrected its syntax. If it is the aim of wikipedia to continue misinformation in the name of politics, than so be it. I am well aware, that mlpearc's racism should stand, and the entirety of the world should think that Cochise was just some criminal on American land before the Americans invaded, correct history be damned.

As I said...provide the sources, and use the article's talk page. Form consensus. And assume good faith; one persons POV is the other persons bias. And please do not see a conspiracy where there is none. I consider myself neutral, as I am an European, and I do not see Wikipedias aim being misinformation. Heed the edit-warring warning please. Lectonar (talk) 19:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi, I just wanted to ask if it's possible to delete the revision titles in the "view history" section with vile and crude language in the article Warsaw? It was directed by an unregistered user. Best Regards Oli (TALK) 19:55, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I've done that; please have a look if I caught all of it. I also protected the page, as there was IP-hopping. Lectonar (talk) 13:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your help. I appreciate it. Best Regards. Oliszydlowski (TALK) 23:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Could you also look at Largest capital cities of the European Union revision? Best Regards Oli (TALK) 23:22, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Late to the party, seems to have been taken care of. Lectonar (talk) 16:17, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Note on editing area[edit]

Hi Lectonar, sorry to bother you, but how would one add the note you suggested? Furthermore, what about visual edits? I imagine they would not see it - and even if they did, they couldn't seem to see the four notes in the article itself... Saturnalia0 (talk) 18:26, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

@Saturnalia0: No bother, please see Wikipedia:Editnotice. If you do not want to go all the way to make a proper editnotice, please see the last bit on the page, "Alternatives". I don't know about the visual edits, though. Lectonar (talk) 07:23, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


Bleh. I hate to split hairs over this, but this is one IP that currently reading through the article and doing pretty good c/e. May want to consider waiting literally just ten more minutes. TimothyJosephWood 14:20, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Grrrmbbll....if I unprotect now, we get him, but also 10 vandalisers to boot. I will reduce to 2 days, but not unprotect. I wish there was a possibility to code exceptions for single IPs not to be caught by protection. Alas. Lectonar (talk) 14:23, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Overlapping edits on Louis_Sachar[edit]

Thanks for the quick action on that page - we seem to have overlapped each other's edits when you semi-protected the page, so apologies for that. I don't think I have permissions to re-add semi-protection - is that something you can redo? The vandalism was so extensive it seemed easiest to just revert to the last known-good version of the page, but I'm not sure if I did it in a proper manner or not. Juansmith (talk) 19:11, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Juansmith: All is fine...the protection just adds a line to the article history without changing the persists regardless of how much you as an autoconfirmed user edit (try editing the article while logged out, though, to see the difference:)). Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 19:18, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Ah, cheers. Juansmith (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Anti-Gravity Freedom Machine[edit]

Hello Lectonar, I noticed earlier that you deleted my pages, Anti-Gravity Freedom Machine, The Anti-Gravity Freedom Machine, and AGFM on the basis of promoting spam and having no relation to the redirected article (Email). I'd like you to explain your reasoning that the AGFM is not a fork of Email's history or has relation, and therefore can not have the redirection to Email, and that it promotes spam. -Patrick Boots CEC (talk) 23:23, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

"The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam" as there will be no mention of AGFM in the email article unless you come up with drastically better sources. --NeilN talk to me 01:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I agree with NeilNs interpretation; as long as I see no consensus on the talk-page of email to even include this in the article, I see no sense in a redirect, as I consider it implausible. Lectonar (talk) 06:52, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

He is back...[edit]

... with a new IP. Blockevasion? See here. The Banner talk 18:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

And quackblocked. Lectonar (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
He is really getting annoying: two new IPs (of which one is a static IP) and new personal attacks, suitable for revdel. The Banner talk 17:31, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Ok..blocked and blocked, revdeledx2. Lectonar (talk) 17:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

I just make a list out of it... The Banner talk 01:12, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

  1. attack
  2. [3]
  3. [4]
  4. [5]
  5. [6]
  6. [7] This time in the 82-range

And the pattern is always the same: first an edit to link a year, 5 tot 20 minutes later the attacks. What a pitiful creature. The Banner talk 02:44, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Pathetic is rather understated; blocked and revdeled. The range of the IPs is too big for a rangeblock. Lectonar (talk) 06:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
You might have a bit of a respite now; I had some fabulous help which did apply a rangeblock. Please keep me updated. Lectonar (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
That sounds really nice. The Banner talk 22:55, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
Another rangeblock. We'll get them yet. Lectonar (talk) 14:31, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

And here we go again[edit]

I guess the range block had expired? Attack 1, attack 2 and attack 3. That guy (?) really has a problem. The Banner talk 08:03, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

And the same pattern: first adding a wikilink, then the personal attack. The Banner talk 08:06, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
And blocked the single IP; the rangeblock calculator is down, but I will get to it asap. Lectonar (talk) 08:27, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again. The Banner talk 08:33, 9 June 2017 (UTC)


Sorry, I didn't mean to cause confusion. The reason I saved the German text first (which I don't normally do) was that there was a Wiki popup over the editing screen that I couldn't get rid of. By saving the text and re-opening it, the popup disappeared. Anyway, all sorted. I think there's a "translation in progress" hatnote that I guess I could use in future. Fortunately I didn't lose my translation when you deleted the article! ☺ --Bermicourt (talk) 10:01, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

@Bermicourt: And I would have undeleted at a pinch anyway; sorry for deleting it in the first place. Cheers and happy editing. Might I coax you over to WP:PNT, btw.? Plenty of work there :) Lectonar (talk) 10:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Just took a look at WP:PNT and can see some articles where I can easily help. Thanks for drawing that to my attention. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:50, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
@Bermicourt: Splendid; adminning takes up too much of my wikitime, and translations need plenty of that....Lectonar (talk) 12:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Conflict solved[edit]

The edit conflict on the Kashmiris page has been solved now. Please remove the protection. Losthistory9 (talk) 09:15, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

User:Losthistory9 I'd rather have that discussion on the talk-page of the protected article; be so kind as to move the discussion there to get more eyes on it. Lectonar (talk) 11:22, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
The discussion turned sort of private. So there's some details that I don't want to share. But basically the conflict was over a spelling of a caste (clan) name. We both acknowledged both spellings as in use among caste members. Just that the other user did not want to use one of the two spellings in the article. So now we have compromised by agreeing to include both spelling variants. Losthistory9 (talk) 11:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
I read the discusion you had linked, and, sorry to tell you, nothing here on Wikipedia is private. I have the strong impression that you kind of very strongly nudged the other user into compromising. And let me assure you that I am well aware of what this was/is about. But my opinion stands: I would really like to see this on the talk-page, as mentioned above. Lectonar (talk) 11:57, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Well since you have such a feeling I have no choice but to withdraw my request for lifting page protection. At the same time I would re-ask you to consider the factor of the use of WP:RS which I have strictly adhered to. I would not like this discussion moved to a talk page but I am happy to re-discuss this issue with that user on the talk page afresh.Losthistory9 (talk) 12:06, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
By asking you to move it to the talk-page of the article, I just adhere to the process laid out after fully protecting a page, see Wikipedia:Protection policy#Types of protection, full protection/content disputes. Lectonar (talk) 12:27, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Paubrasilia (again)[edit]

Hi Lectonar. Just to let you know, @Oshwah:. Nothing came of the dialogue between the other editor and myself and unfortunately no-one else has weighed in. For me, without further voices and suggestions on the matter and on how to proceed, I am leaving the article and moving on. However, that should go both ways, but the other editor feels different about it. Actually it would appear that is has now become an obsession, a question of proving a point, seeing that he has done nothing else on the English Wikipedia for almost two months and for two days did nothing else other but this. To me, the shorter this etymology section the better, for it makes no sense to go into such detailed analysis in the article, as I said here, to wit, "The only reason that article has such an extensive etymology section has nothing to do with the tree, but with the unending debate over the |origin of the name Brazil/ Brasil. And the reason for that unending debate is exactly because it is not possible to ascertain for sure what the origin of the name is.". In other words, that level of detail belongs at Name of Brazil, not in other articles about the species. Keep well, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 11:05, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Rui Gabriel Correia Thank you for your patience and calmness; I have one more idea, and that would be to list this at WP:3O (it seems to be an ideal case for a 3rd opinion). Would you be so kind to do that? I don't want to put it there because it would make me involved, and I try to stay as impartial as possible while doing admin-stuff (it leaves me more options). My rather small hope from the beginning was to get more on eyes on the problem. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 11:28, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Lectonar. I will list it at WP:30. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 11:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Just seeking clarity on the WP:3O process. I see that there is an IP who routinely goes to the page, responds to the request with a few lines and deletes the request. However, it feels odd that such a process is handled in such a manner by an individual who one knows nothing of, has no credentials, etc. What weight does this IP's opinion carry? Who is then to act on the opinion and implement whatever is to be implemented? Thanks, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 20:59, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Maajid Nawaz[edit]

Can you change it to pending changes anyway? The policy says its great for BLPs, which the article is.VictoriaGraysonTalk 14:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Kris Wu[edit]

Well, I appreciate the attempt! But I guess because they're already autoconfirmed...? Anything else can be done, or just watch the page? I didn't think it was disruptove enough to ask for 30/500 (or whatever the numbers are). Anyway, thanks for looking in! — O Fortuna semper crescis, aut decrescis 11:22, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah...the autoconfirmed-status was what made me undo it; extended confirmed is too heavy handed and actually not indicated with essentially just one user. Still mulling over how to proceed.....a rather stern warning might be sufficient. I will decide after some coffee. Thanks for the head-up. Lectonar (talk) 11:25, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


Hi The user change his ip frequently. Also, another user reproaches him for suppressing passages sourced unilaterally and according to his personal analysis. So, I have warned him. --Panam2014 (talk) 11:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Then file a SPI; sockpuppetry and block evasion is easier to block, and so an easier way to deal with problems like that than page protection. Lectonar (talk) 17:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)


Sorry about this - [8]. I probably got a little to carried away on seeing the magnitude of people working to disrupt an article. Jupitus Smart 18:27, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

It just struck me as worth mentioning; Wikipedia is caustic enough already. And well...they are probably not in cahoots, and I always tend to think fanboys-/girls... they are just as passionate as they come (which does not mean I condone the their behaviour). It always pays to keep a cool head, though. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 18:38, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

La République En Marche ![edit]

Hi The article has been moved without consensus an the party will be renamed on 15 July 2017. Could you reverse the name to En Marche! ? --Panam2014 (talk) 20:04, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Move-protected at "En Marche". Lectonar (talk) 18:31, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Protecting my subpages[edit]

I had originally requested protection on several of my userpages several months ago following a run-in with Amotrtias/ Armotrias/ (not to be confused with Amortias) and this RfC a weeks/months later. The account I mentioned is globally locked and I requested G10 (on only the pages they created) and (later) oversight on several (if not all) of their edits, so I'm not sure if you are able to see what pages they started creating after they noticed it was always the same user undoing them, but they were not nice (to put it very mildly). After the RfC passed for default protection on all root userpages (not user talk pages), I later decided to protect most of my subpages (except a draft I had in my userspace at the time which didn't go anywhere and I eventually deleted) to avoid vandals and new users being able to edit pages they shouldn't need to edit. That request at RFPP was granted. I requested page protection on all my currently unprotected subpages a few days ago with the same reasoning in mind. I just didn't realize I had created so many subpages in the time between that request and this one. Gestrid (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

I was aware of that, and I answered at WP:RFP; my answer took the form of a note to allow other administrators to weigh in and protect the pages if they thought it warranted.....but no one else did. The part I quoted from the protection policy is still valid, though. As of now, I (still) would not protect as I do not see the actual necessity (no vandalism, no disruption). I admit there is a bit of admin disgression where, so perhaps you should relist it at RFP. I would then recuse myself from answering. As a sidenote: what might also be a problem is the amount of requests at RFP overall, with perhaps only about 5-10 admins dropping by regularly. Cheers and happy editing, and keep up the good work (I see you allover here, Teahouse etc). Lectonar (talk) 16:03, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't think I'll relist at RFPP for now. It could be seen by some admins as somewhat disruptive since I made the request a few days ago and got an answer (albeit, not one that caused the bot to archive the request).
Also, it's kind of amazing that, with as much vandalism as we get, there aren't enough admins on RFPP to answer requests seconds after they come in. I suppose it's because many users prefer to ask specific admins (ex. the bot they call Oshwah) on their talk pages and IRC to get answers quickly. And I guess users prefer to do that because not many admins patrol RFPP. It's an endless circle!
Gestrid (talk) 16:16, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
They aren't enough admins as it is it; I think around 540 are listed as acive at the moment, but this does not mean they are doing adminny things (activity being measured against edits, not admin actions). All in all I would tend to think that 90% of adming actions are done by 50-100 admins (100 being on the optimistic side here). I am in Europe, and I get the feeling that from the morning up until 2pm my time I am the only one doing RFP at all (I might be wrong, but it sure feels so). Anyway, thank you for taking all that in good grace. Lectonar (talk) 20:33, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Yemeni Civil War (2015–present)[edit]

Hi The title was used from years. Also, the rules are clear. The first title was used since 2 years so you should revert the move then we will launch a request move. Regards. --Panam2014 (talk) 11:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

And what administrative action is needed in your opinion? Lectonar (talk) 19:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


Remove the freaking tag on top of the article! It is polluting the article! Holy Goo (talk) 20:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Full_protection. Aren't you a little ray of sunshine. Lectonar (talk) 21:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Who was the nazi that came up with this bullshit. What happened to the padlock icon on the top right corner? Holy Goo (talk) 22:59, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
As I know you can write in a friendlier fashion when you put your mind to it....let's just say it like this: do your own research. Lectonar (talk) 07:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, please may you downgrade the protection level. From the protection log, talk page and page history I can't see the justification for full protection. You could downgrade to pending changes or semi? Tom B (talk) 09:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Actually, the talk-page being unused is an indication that the article need full protection; I have protected after a request at WP:RFP, because experienced editors were reverting back and forth all over the place. Form consensus on the talk-page and then the page can be unprotected. Lectonar (talk) 09:52, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
This has been going on as a slow-burning edit war for a long time, topic cryptoviral extortion. Now of course in the news...Lectonar (talk) 09:58, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Draft: SahBabii[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if you could help remove to protection/blacklist so that the SahBabii article can be created. I started a draft, thanks! 2602:30A:C06D:8D00:A91A:66FB:DC4D:575A (talk) 18:27, 16 May 2017 (UTC) Kimber0316 (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Actually, no. If you want this to go to mainspace, follow the AFC process. Too many problems in the past. Lectonar (talk) 21:23, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Page protection[edit]

Hello! Please consider adding a protection template on the page Love in the Moonlight as there has been several reverted edits by an IP address claiming other editors are sock-puppets without any proof and confirmation. Thanks! (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't know why, in this case, an editor would claim they are socks of one specific user unless they are actually a sock of the specific user. Usually they just claim other editors are socks of no one specifically. It seems the user the IP mentions in their edit summaries was recently identified as an LTA, and, what's more, they also had a few of their accounts blocked on the 17th of this month. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bertrand101. Gestrid (talk) 03:40, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Bruno Alves[edit]

I don't know {{pp}} or {{pp-vandalism}} should be added to the page as the page was protected. Matthew_hk tc 20:16, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Then go ahead, but actually it is not strictly necessary; for once, it will be added by a bot sometime in the next 18 hours, and the protection doesn't depend on the template being added: every IP or not-autoconfirmed editor who tries to edit the page will not be able to. I only template protected pages when I fully protect. Lectonar (talk) 21:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Camp Carmel[edit]

Hello. Please Consider Recreating the page, Camp Carmel. I represent them on some matters and we are a non-profit. If I need to take some information out, that is ok, otherwise the source is and I will be able to put that under references, which I suppose is my fault for not doing so. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheep11 (talkcontribs) 15:03, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


  1. ^
Please use WP:REFUND, or deletion review, but I see think your chances to have that restored are slim either way. Lectonar (talk) 07:46, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Help block some users[edit]

Hello, thank you for added Protection to La Luna Sangre. But the IPs' now turn into red users. They deleted all my contribution (where I added many sources to the page). I saw one of the users also being blocked from editing another article. Please help to block the users. I've listed their vandalism here.

This is my [last edit]


And this one

This is serious, they worked on group. Please help us Best Regards

Puchicatos (talk) 05:43, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Please report those at WP:AIV, wih a short summary why you think it is vandalism. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:23, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Ibn al-Haytham[edit]


You might want to keep an eye on this article. Although you recently set pending changes on it, the back-and-forth edit warring/disruption is still continuing. Regards. (talk) 22:57, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up; it is on my watchlist. And pending changes prevents the edits of the IP-hopper from going "live"...which might be frustrating for them :). Lectonar (talk) 08:59, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Can you help verify translations of articles from German[edit]

Hello Lectonar,

Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from German to English Wikipedia?

This would involve evaluating a translated article on the English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original German article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:

There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including German , using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from German. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.

If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:

  1. Chi-Chi Igbo  Fail, as the sources are dead, and info is different in German article.
  2. Christine Neubauer  Pass

All you have to do, is compare the English article to the German article, and assess them "Pass" or "Fail" (the {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} templates may be useful here). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then assessing it, that's even better, but it isn't required.) Also please note that we are assessing accuracy not completeness, so if the English article is much shorter that is okay, as long as whatever has been translated so far is factually accurate.

If you can help, please {{ping}} me here to let me know. You can add your pass/fails above, right next to each link, or you may indicate your results below. Thanks! From you bud over at PNT ;-)   Mathglot (talk) 06:26, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, great idea. I will try to look into it in my spare time. Lectonar (talk) 09:00, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Can I send a few more? Mathglot (talk) 00:28, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Go right ahead, but I can not promise I get to it right away. Btw, your last long comment at User talk:Henia Perlman was fabulous. I hope it amounts to something. Lectonar (talk) 06:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


I noticed something unusual in my watchlist - I'm wondering if you meant to do this, or was that meant to go here. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:08, 12 June 2017 (UTC) is late here...and I did not mean to protect the RfP page. Thank you for watching :). Lectonar (talk) 21:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
And @Zzuuzz: fixed it. Thanks a million, both of you. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 21:11, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
I notice I'm already on your talk page :) I didn't want to hassle you -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:14, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Everything is shipshape. Thanks again. Lectonar (talk) 21:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

CPC Infobox Ideology[edit]

Hi, I noticed you were involved in the debate over infobox ideology in the article Conservative Party of Canada. The page is currently locked because of an edit war, and no attempt has been made on the talk page to resolve this. I would to thus invite you to contribute to the discussion at Talk:Conservative_Party_of_Canada#Ideology so the page can be unlocked and constructive editing can continue.--Jay942942 (talk) 22:49, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@Jay942942: Thank you, but I only fully protected the page after a request at WP:RFP, to further a discussion on the talk-page. Weighing in there would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 06:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Attila (miniseries)[edit]

Hello, Lectonar. You recently declined to semi-protect Attila (miniseries) on the grounds that the problem "Seems to have died down". For the record, the problem is continuing, apparently coming from a dynamic IP address. Please reconsider whether semi-protection might be appropriate. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 10:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

The disruption is not heavy enough to warrant semi-protection. I have pending-changes protected for 1 month, which will prevent the IP-edits from going "live" unless accepted. Lectonar (talk) 11:20, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Please protect the article Palaruvi Express[edit]

Hello Lectonar, I need a help from your side. The article Palaruvi Express is facing persistent and stiff vandalism from an IP. I've seen that you protected the article some days back. But that got expired, I believe. The troubles came back now. So please protect the article.

Thanks and regards, Arunvrparavur (talk) 10:54, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I have semi-protected for another week. Lectonar (talk) 11:18, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


Hi. Long time.
The user you recently interacted with, has a sever problem with English fluency. Most of his edit summaries, comments, replies, and userpage content are extremely likely to be copied from somewhere else. I am very surprised about how he manages the language barrier. As he is a good-faith hardworking editor, I have watchlisted his page since my discussion with Neil, just in case if he runs in some sort of trouble. From my experience on wiki, I have realised an editor can work proficiently in anti-vandal work without fluency in English, but it gets difficult in other fields of wiki. Especially when it comes to Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars, or where PCR is required. —usernamekiran(talk) 22:12, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up; I was aware of some problems, but not that they are that grave. I will keep that in mind. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 22:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 :-) —usernamekiran(talk) 09:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Here is a little incident again. Nothing serious though. Like I said previously, copy-paste; including responses and edit summaries. See you around. :)
usernamekiran(talk) 11:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Re:Margaret (singer)[edit]

Hi, I've just messaged 'the other guy' about it, so I'm just gon copy-paste the message: "Hey, I'm just letting you know that I've reverted your edits and instead mentioned that Stargard Szczecinski is now called Stargard. You can't say that her birth place is Stargard because it's not, it's not what it was called at the time she was born, and It's not what appears on her birth certificate." I don't understand why you would call my edits childish and say I do edit warrings. Each time I revert something I message the author of the reverted edit with explanation. ArturSik (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

I did say it seems childish, not that you or your edits are. And edit warring is not about being right, but just reverting back and forth; anybody is free to just walk away. As I said, both of you need more competence, and less ownership. I will not touch this article again, but be aware that even good articles may become former good articles. And what is happening over there is just paving the way for that: the kind of behaviour by all involved will make the article deteriorate so much that it might loose the good article status. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 10:06, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
reverting is the last thing I want but if people change correct informations to incorrocted it leaves me with no other choice. I can leave a note explaining why it is this way and not the other and ask for not changing this but there's nothing else that I can do. I am the person who contributed to this article becoming GA and I cannot let people destroy it, and don't get me wrong I'm not saying others can't touch it, I'm just always there to double check if what they did is correct and when it comes to her birth place I dealt with this before and a lot of people get it wrong. As I said I always message the person who's edits I revert but sometimes they ignore what I say and begin edit wars. That's one of the reasons I've requested protection for this page. ArturSik (talk) 10:26, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
The case rests. I really do not care. Lectonar (talk) 10:27, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
fair enough ArturSik (talk) 10:30, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Arab-Israeli Conflict[edit]

Can you please give me a good reason why new editors are prohibited from editing this Arab-Israeli conflict related page? Jsnsnsnsnsnsn (talk) 02:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

WP:ARBPIA3#500/30. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 20:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


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The pleasure is all mine. Lectonar (talk) 18:37, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Denied protection of Sam Pepper[edit]

Hi Lectonar. Would you mind explaining in a bit more detail why you decided to decline protecting the Sam Pepper article? As I said in my request, I am aware that the page isn't edited extremely frequently, but these [9] [10] [11] [12] are obviously vandalism and BLP violations and they can be found at the top of the revision history. There's no shortage of problematic revisions once you look deeper either. WP:PCPP says

Pending changes protection should not be used on articles with a very high edit rate

So what rate of editing would justify protection in your view? To me, the BLP violations lead me to believe the page should be protected. I would appreciate some insight on your end. Eventhorizon51 (talk) 14:41, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

I was aware of all of that, but: Wikipedia should stay the encyclopedia that everyone can edit, not: the encyclopedia where your edits are reviewed before going "live"; to quote a bit more from protection policy "....Pending changes may be used to protect articles against: persistent vandalism, violations of the biographies of living persons policy and copyright violations...". Carly Fiorina presidential campaign, 2016 was an article I pending-changes protected, e.g....this had about 2 or 3 vadalism edits per day for some time before protection. much also depends on how one reads "persistent"; policy is more or less mum on that account. In very olden (Wikipedia-)times I would have said: just watchlist and revert. In consequnce, I have watchlisted the article. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 15:15, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation; I appreciate it. Eventhorizon51 (talk) 15:31, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Hats Off Productions[edit]

Good question. In addition to User:Ravensfire's reverts within the last couple days, I also noted that they had to reverse other edits just this month. I therefore chose to protect the page, taking in concern User:Ravensfire's comments. Feel free to drop the protection down if you don't think it's warranted. Academic Challenger (talk) 20:10, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

German Translation Verification Request[edit]


I found your name in Wikipedia:Translators_available#German-to-English. I recently translated User:Degeno/Canton of Mutterstadt, using Google translate (carefully sentence by sentence, sometime clause by clause, cleaning up and resolving issues as best I could), and I'd appreciate it if you could double-check it to the point where I might be able to remove the "rough translation" banner. I lined up the original German sentences with my translations using Template:Clarify, which I hope will make that easier, but the text still follows de:Kanton Mutterstadt closely if that's better.

Thanks! - Degeno (talk) 04:50, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Ufuna ukufunda ngamakhompyutha[edit]

Sawubona, Ngidinga usizo. Lesi yisikhathi sokuqala ngisebenzisa amakhompyutha ngakho angikwazi ukuhlela ama-athikili kule webhusayithi. Ngaphezu kwalokho, angikaze ngiyazi ukuthi i-website isho ukuthini.Ngako-ke ngisimungulu uma kuziwa kuma-computer naku-intanethi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ss3412 (talkcontribs) 04:35, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

The deletion of "Chunky Zucchini"[edit]

It has been brought to my notice that you have deleted my Wiki page, "Chunky Zucchini", for being an "ATP (attack page)". However, the page contains a clear notice that it was uploaded with consent of Chunky Zucchini, and that he is okay with the page being up and does not take offence. Please bring the page back up. Thank you.

PS: If the phone number is too offensive (even though Chunky thought it was fine), I will remove it at your request.

PS 2: It appears the page has also been protected, but I shall note here that I would not have recreated the page without permission from the deleter of said page (Lectonar (you)) anyway.

PS 3: It also appears that the page might've been taken down for an unsourced BLP, in which case I will gladly remove the biography section.

Warakagoda Sri Gnanarathana Thero protection?[edit]

Maybe you can remember me from the discussion we had at the time about the Luang Por Dhammajayo article. I was wondering what your thoughts were on the Warakagoda Sri Gnanarathana Thero article and the edit-warring that is going on. Nobody really does anything about it, because nobody knows a thing about the subject, myself included, but it is a lot of messy editing and reverts. Please let me know what you think could be done about it.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 22:29, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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hello i am just going to ask about a subject,- coud i add my polltical concept trondisme devolped bye me to wikipedia??[edit]

Hi i am a real life independent polltican. and i am a hardcore socialist,- so i was wondering if i coud publish my concept trondisme wonces it has ofcourse bean written and is finnished and is grammerly corrected,- i am asking yu as a moderater cause im afraid the page will get deleted i want to share my concept whit the world but im just a normal worker so yea =/ i dont know about eny other way to publish it to the world then on here,- i know wikipedia is a community services thats why i asked about it first,- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red socialistdude (talkcontribs) 21:36, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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Sources needed for Days of the Year pages[edit]

I see you recently accepted this unsourced addition to February 1. I was able to find a source supporting this addition and add it to February 1.

You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide.

Please do not accept additions to day of year pages where no direct source has been provided on that page. The burden to provide sources for additions to these pages is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 15:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Was done via pending-changes, not my edits. Lectonar (talk) 11:57, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:SahBabii[edit]

Hello, Lectonar. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "SahBabii".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Was not my draft. Lectonar (talk) 11:55, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Jesse Waugh AfD[edit]

Hi, I’m writing to ask if you might be willing to take a look at the Articles for Deletion page for Jesse Waugh. The vote already took place based on the article’s current sources, but certain people seem to be determined to get it deleted. Thanks either way. (talk) 08:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Martin Garrix[edit]

Will you please remove protection from Martin Garrix? I would like to edit it but I can't because it's semi-protected. There has not been any disruptive editing for a long time so it would be great if you would unprotect it. KingAndGod 15:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Does new Wikipedia page's NOINDEX HTML tag (<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/>) cause Google Search to not index for 90 days?[edit]

Hi Lectonar, Never mind, sir. I will try to ask someone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marykartowski (talkcontribs) 13:39, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lectonar, I see source code of some new Wikipedia pages (e.g., 26-Mar-2018 created new article: view-source: have a NOINDEX HTML tag (<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/>). I think Google Search spider honors that tag by not adding to Google Search Index, and thus Google Search does not return these new Wikipedia articles via search string "". I've read "Articles older than 90 days are automatically indexed".

  • Does that mean Google Search Crawl Policy stops honoring a NOINDEX tag after a target page is 90 days old, or more likely Wikipedia robots remove the NOINDEX tag (and adds the INDEX tag) from new articles after 90 days (26-Mar-2018 + 3 months = 26-Jun-2018)?
    • I'm guessing the latter. I think because Reviewedness data is lost 90 days after creation, Wikipedia Patrollers might not be able to know if a page was reviewed before 90-days, so that Wikipedia robotic software probably uses a configuration variable ($wgRCMaxAge, or $wgPageTriageMaxAge) to remove the NOINDEX HTML tag from new pages after 90-days.
  • Do Wikipedia New Page Patrols usually shorten this wait from 90 days down to xx days?
  • Is there a way to see the status (or queue, or schedule, or backlog, or ETA) for New Page Patrol's review of a specific new Wikipedia articles?

P.S. I know there are 5.6 million Wikipedia articles, and only a tiny squad of Patrollers. And we (Patrollers, Administrators, Contributors, Editors) are all volunteers. But I really strove in good faith to create a Wikipedia article that met Wikipedia excellent standards (notable, useful, neutral, factual, encyclopedic, supported by 3rd party evidence, referenced, accurate, spam-free, advertisement-free, not vandalism, not hoax, not violate copyright, not defamatory, not exploiting Wikipedia to earn money, not orphaned, etc). Marykartowski (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Jhanvi Kapoor[edit]

Thank you for protecting Jhanvi Kapoor but it appears that the new editor Lovedancing12 (talk · contribs) has reached autoconfirmed status. They have been given much rope but seem unwilling to listen. I have provided them links to Wikipedia's reliable sources page, notability page, and edit warning page but I think a block is necessary to stop their disruption. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I understand WP:AGF and they are likely just a misguided new editor but edit waring on Bigg Boss 12 [13] and ignoring warnings probably isn't the best place to start. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:10, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Poppyseed listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Poppyseed. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Poppyseed redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. B dash (talk) 10:42, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Fun is not allowed anyx more it seems :). Lectonar (talk) 11:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Randy Orton - excessive pending[edit]


The Randy Orton page, currently on semi-protect pending changes protection has been for a couple of days blizzarded by endless, very similar, edits from a variety of IPs (my rough reading of them indicates that a dynamic range probably wouldn't work, but I shall endeavour to look into it), several editors, including myself, have been filtering the messages.

However it has reached such a high level that I was hoping you could temporarily (1/2 weeks) shift protection to standard semi-protect since the article has fallen out of the "infrequently edited" category atm.

Many Thanks (please ping with any response)

Nosebagbear (talk) 22:10, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Re: September 7 page edit[edit]

Why did you undo my revision on the September 7 page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:00, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Because it was trivial. Lectonar (talk) 09:48, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


Hi Arup9696 (talk) 05:34, 29 September 2018 (UTC)


Looks like all the recent disruption has come from a single IP that is now blocked. Please consider unprotecting unless we see that the issue absolutely cannot be solved with reverts/blocks. As I'm sure you are aware, it is highly important that our forum for new editors be open to non-autoconfirmed accounts. GMGtalk 12:12, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Or can we at least downgrade to pending changes so we can allow guests to ask questions? GMGtalk 12:29, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

29 & 30 October 2018[edit]

Reason for revert is ?

Hungarian diet adopted a motion declaring that the constitutional relations between the two states have ended on 30.10.1918. - Source New York Times Source for 29.10.1918 is from Croatian parliament. Everything is from article Treaty of Trianon (talk) 12:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Bekir Kaya speedy deletion request[edit]

Dear Lectonar,

I have just created an article about Bekir Kaya, a kurdish politician, a mayor is imprisoned and prosecuted for terrorism because he has built a bridge and allowed that Kurdish fighters who fought IS in Kobane were buried in the cemetery of their hometown with the name Van. It has been requested a speedy deletion for it because of copyright questions. I have cited the sources and I rephrased most of the phrases in order not to have too much similar phrases, but certain phrases are simply fine like they are and there is little need to change too much at them. So I found one phrase which was the really the same, and I rephrased it now, too. Most of the info available in the article can be read in three different sources cited in the article.

Is this enough, or should there be changed more? If it is enough, could you end the speedy deletion request? If there should be changed more, could you please tell me what else is there to change?


--Lean Anael (talk) 01:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Seems to have been sorted via AfD. Lectonar (talk) 09:39, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Lower protection level of Mankatha[edit]

Hi Lectonar, could you take a look at Mankatha and consider unprotecting the page? You set up pending changes protection back in 2015, so it might be worth seeing if the protection is still needed. Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 08:03, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Looking at the movement on the page....I think it still warrants pending-changes protection. Lectonar (talk) 09:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

How is the Arbitration Committee not notable please explain[edit]

Hi I did give references that the Arbitration Committee of Wikipedia is clearly notable I don't understand how a global scale notability is addressed but since you're a long time sysop or administrator I just wanted to clear my doubts of how it is not notable enough and not reliable sourced (as in my edit I gave the primary, secondary and tertiary sources to show it is a global and notable event as told by the sources themselves) Best regards (talk) 07:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

The Arbitration Committee might be notable for in-Wikipedia purposes, but surely is not notable in the wide world; plus, it's only the Arbitration Committee of the English-language Wikipedia. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 09:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


I am new in wikipedia page can you help me which rules i will follow Dotgirlfine (talk) 18:16, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Left a link on your talk-page. Lectonar (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

At least now[edit]

people are saying Wikipedia was a true source of information. Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:44, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

We'll see if Wikipedia is still any source of any information after EU’s final Copyright Reform. Lectonar (talk) 14:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Paris Kassidokostas - Latsis[edit]

Thanks for restoring that. The revision history of the page seems to have disappeared though, can you have a look? I wanted to restore it back to a previous version as there's a single purpose account which keeps changing it to a badly formatted mess. Valenciano (talk) 12:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

All this moving about made my head spin...should be ok now. Lectonar (talk) 13:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

MIG-21 Update[edit]

When you locked out any edits to MiG-21, the verified facts about 1999 Atlantique incident between India and Pakistan as well as the table of confirmed air kills were deleted. Please restore it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayonpradhan (talkcontribs) 13:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Please use the article's talk-page to discuss your edits; me restoring any part of the article after having protected it would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 14:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


Hi. A user by the name Sairg is involved in disruptive editing of the page on Sukaphaa. Kindly, go through it. The sources given seemed to be proper with references, but the user is constantly undoing it falsely accusing it to be vandalism. As far as I know, the journey of king Sukapha into Assam has been recorded in different versions. All versions are equally important and therefore all versions have to be added including the one which Sairg thinks is right. I guess he is involved in POV push. It's best if the user is reported. He is involved in disruptive editing in other pages related to the Ahoms too. Check [14] [15] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbariankiller456 (talkcontribs) 10:25, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Please use the article's talk-page to discuss your edits; me taking sides in editing of the article after having protected it would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Sudeep Karat[edit]

Please check I have provided enough references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talkcontribs) 10:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I just reacted to the moving back and forth from draft to mainspace; I will not participate in the evaluation of the draft, as that would make me involved. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Can you please check whether there are any issues with references or content?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talkcontribs) 10:59, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
See my answer above; in short: I won't. Lectonar (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
I have understood you OK :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by K2share (talkcontribs) 11:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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Exotic pet[edit]

Thank you for configuring pending changes for the Exotic pet article. Unfortunately, this has not deterred the constant IP vandalism. Without engaging in discussion, IPs (mostly but not exclusively in the same address range) have been repeatedly adding very poor examples to the list of examples of exotic animals kept as pets in households – e.g., whales, porpoises, extremely venomous snakes, and lions. Could you possibly see fit to raise the protection level to require autoconfirmed editors? —BarrelProof (talk) 13:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@BarrelProof: Well, the pending-changes protection does what it's supposed to do: it prevents the changes from going live (normally frustrating as hell for IPs). As for the edits: be so kind to escalate the warnings, and subsequently report the IPs (mainly from the range) to AIV. It could be that a rangeblock is needed. Lectonar (talk) 13:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
OK. Thank you. —BarrelProof (talk) 13:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
I went ahead and applied semi protection to the article for 3 days. Given the edit history, it's clear that there's back-and-forth disruptive editing going on by anonymous users, and at a rate where I feel that it's justified and in order to put a stop to it (at least for now). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough; I just think that protection should be the last resort....if not, why all the other instruments at our back and call? Lectonar (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Protection request[edit]

Hi Lectonar, you recently added extended confirmed protection to Barbara Engelking. Would you consider doing the same to Jan Grabowski (historian)? It is experiencing the same BLP violations for the same reason, namely that the two have edited a collection, Dalej jest noc (2018), that (if I've understood it correctly) criticizes the Polish public's treatment of Jews during the Holocaust. See this edit, for example. SarahSV (talk) 17:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

  • I actually came here to thank Lectonar for the ECP on Engelking. As someone who created the page (which I now almost regret), I felt responsible for protecting the page from antisemitic vandalism. Jan Grabowski (historian)‎ is better watched, but ECP would be beneficial there as well to reduce disruption from accounts with limited track records. --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
    I've had a look at this, and the disruption is...different from the disruption at Barbara Engelking; if Jan Grabowski (historian) is to be protected, ECP-protection would not be enough anyway imho...but discussion is already ongoing. I have added both articles to my watchlist in the meantime. Lectonar (talk) 08:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


Hi, I had requested protection for Invasion of Normandy which it appears you have declined with the reason being that "the users are blocked". The problem is that it is a single person using both IP access and multiple new accounts to repeatedly make the same series of disruptive edits to the page. They already waited out a 1-week protection then immediately went back, hence the reason I requested protection again. The page needs a longer period of protection with a minimum of 'Extended Confirmed User' for access. Thanks - wolf 21:14, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Apart from this one user, there is virtually no disruption of the article which would warrant a protection of the kind you are requesting; instead of locking down a whole article, it is better to block causes much less disruption, and after all: Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit, one of the 5 Pillars. Lectonar (talk) 08:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

TFA being vandalised[edit]

Please address/resolve this page protection request. Dan56 (talk) 13:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Not poorly sourced[edit]

Sir that is not poorly sourced on Bruce Dickinson's page. It is cited to the article The Famous People which is considered reliable in wikipedia community. Also a same kind of statement is added in the page of Freddie Mercury but no one dared to touch that but only in Bruce Dickinson. This is clearly injustice. Injustice against heavy metal vocalists has no place on Wikipedia. Please add that this ain't fair. Flight time broke 3 revert rule but you didn't warn him that is clear injustice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:A38D:A93:A891:1A39:6B2F:8F24 (talk) 16:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Then be so kind and use the talk page of the article to make your point; protecting the page makes me involved now. Lectonar (talk) 16:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Nice Job![edit]

Thanks for your swift response to my WP:RFPP earlier, I really appreciate it. Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 18:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


you didn't look at the last 12 months, but then again, I didn't take (waste) time assembling diffs for what should be obvious. So nevermind. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I like your attempt at online mind-reading, but you're quite wrong; I did indeed look at the last 12 months (and more) of both articles, but perhaps your definition what constitutes a relevant disruption warranting semi-protection does differ from what our protection policy says. Persistent the disruption might be, but it is also rather slow. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 13:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Bayan Fenwick[edit]

Hi there, I see you rejected my request to semi-protect Bayan Fenwick as there had not been enough disruption but I disagree. Most days I have to keep changing it back and the vandalism has continued since. I ask if you can please rethink your decision. Thanks, Cam (talk) 11:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Cazza3012: I beg to 2019 (3 months and running), there were exactly 6 (!) instances of edits by IPs. I really do not see how this might be described as "most days". While you're at it, please have a read of our protection policy. Lectonar (talk) 07:16, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


Hello. I've read on the internet, that Csaba Gyüre is selected in the Jobbik's parliament in Hungary. Here is a proof: It's an hungarian language, so the Jobbik's mandate is 22 again, not 21. I've just saying that. That's all, have nice day. --PD55ZG (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Then put the source in the article, and it's fine. Lectonar (talk) 08:04, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


There's more disruption. WBGconverse 13:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Back from your wikibreak? I've semied for 3 days now...Lectonar (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Lock template[edit]

I noticed some of the pages you've protected recently don't have the little lock template. I assumed that happened automatically (or by twinkle magic), but I thought Katie Bouman wasn't protected because it didn't have the lock template, and it turned out it was just invisibly-protected. Is this a thing you're doing on purpose, or just an oversight? Natureium (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Natureium: Being an old coot, I use neither twinkle nor huggle, but still do every edit manually. Afair, these little locks are put on protected pages by a bot (though this may take some time). Plus, after reading our protection policy (again), use of the locks is not mandatory. I for one always look at the logs of the page. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 07:17, 18 April 2019 (UTC)