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Cultured Meat Artificiality Section Edit[edit]

Goodevening dearest Shoy,much pleasured to meet you,i am abbas.Thank you so very really much for your very polite and constructive response.I would like to say I am very sorry to edit the artificiality section that you wrote in Cultured meat Wikipedia article,without your consent,i wasn't aware of that.I am also very sorry I know my edit seemed as if it was biased,but I really believed the science in my humble opinion that I was writing about,as in that clean meat is naturally produced in a natural environment within an artificial setting.I tottally recognize as well that the word natural can have different interpertations.But most importantly I would like to add about factual statements as I am aware in my very humble view,of that cultured meat is composed of animal tissue AND fat+support cells,as well as blood vessels(link: https://www.aleph-farms.com/#RD).Additionally I would like to add that clean meat can be free of the artificial antibiotics,steroids,hormones and gmos that are in most common factory farmed and not meat and seafood.I am so sorry for saying some of my arguments that you might not agree with,i fully respect your very sophisticated edits.Thank you so very really much for your time again and in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clean animal products is the greatest invention ever (talkcontribs) 20:28, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

@Clean animal products is the greatest invention ever: I reverted your edits for several reasons. First of all, you added information without adding a reliable source. Any edits need to be sourced to reliable sources and not just personal knowledge or opinions. Based on your username, it appears that you have a particular point of view to push here, and that's not how Wikipedia works. Articles must be written from a neutral point of view. Secondly, the text was poorly written and difficult to understand. If English isn't your first language, you can suggest edits on the article talk page, or find a different Wikipedia where you are able to write more fluently. Note that I didn't revert your edits because I do or don't "agree with" your arguments. shoy (reactions) 20:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

March 28/2019 Dearest Shoy,Goodday.Thank you so very lot much for your rational and very respectful response again.I would like to say I am sorry as i do understand,as a new Wikipedia editor that I used some words like natural, and perspectives that are subjective to my opinion and belief,and I will refrain from using them in the future,especially without the consent of the initial writer,like you,as well as the fact that I did not add sources.I will try to always be as neutral as possible.In that matter,i thank you so much as your work in Wikipedia and this section is terrific and for that i would definitely not like to change anything you wrote,but only add/edit,if I may to your exceptional section of Artificiality in Cultured meat Article these parts in parentheses() :

Part 1:  Although cultured meat consists of genuine animal muscle cells,(fat and support cells,and blood vessels (link,reliable and approved company,all 4 have been grown in their thin beef steaks grown in culture: https://www.aleph-farms.com/#RD)) that are the same in traditional meat,(some) consumers...Cultured meat has been falsesly described as (fake or) "Frankenmeat".[74]                                      
Part 2: If cultured...The lack of bone,(irregularities(or texture irregularities) and blood) may...However the lack of bones,(irregularities(or texture irregularities) or blood) may..children[75].  (Additionally irregularities in meat(or texture irregularities) could be addressed if the natural environmental physically effects of traditional,conventional or hunted meat would be in effect identically in the artificial setting where cultured meat could continue growing in.Furthermore cultured blood and bones could be produced in the future as well) {1) https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/lab-grown-blood-be-trialed-uk/, 2) https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lab-grown-bone-biomedical-engineering-osteoporosis-amputees}.

I would totally understand if in the part 2 you would not desire to add the part from the "Additionally irregularities" to "future as well",as it is not reminding of a Wikipedia article.But for the rest part I personally do not see a problem with adding them,but I fully respect if you do.I am so sorry again for my multiple replies.Thank you so very really much for your time,kindness and in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.251.116.4 (talk) 15:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand how Wikipedia works. No editorWP:OWNs any page here, and I did not write the page initially. In fact that is the first time I have ever edited it. In response to Part 1, I would never use a company's website to support an article, that might appear to be promoting their products. For part 2, I can't find anything in either source to support "Additionally irregularities in meat(or texture irregularities) could be addressed if the natural environmental physically effects of traditional,conventional or hunted meat would be in effect identically in the artificial setting where cultured meat could continue growing in". Can you help me find where that came from? shoy (reactions) 15:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Dearest Shoy,thank you so very much for your very kind and rational response again.On part 1 if you would like,may I replace the aleph farms link with this: {(https://www.dezeen.com/2018/12/18/lab-grown-steak-beef-slaughter-free-aleph-farms-design/) quote"(The steak was manufactured...support cells, fat cells, blood vessel cells and muscle cells")}.I am so sorry to ask you again but if you would like,may I suggest to add in the part 1 at its end after (or Frankenmeat) part to say:( Additionally clean meat can be grown without the artificial antibiotics,hormones,steroids,medicine and GMOs used in much of the common factory farmed and not,meat and seafood).As of part 2 i am sorry for writing like that this part: (Additionally irregularities... future as well),i only meant it in the hypothetical sense that artificial settings could provide identical natural conditions for meat to grow in the future,as a freezer can do that for ice from water currently,but thank you so very much for mentioning that since it is hypothetical,i fully agree and remove that proposal of this whole part.Thank you so very widely much again for your time and understanding — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbas Sihbasd (talkcontribs) 18:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

That's fine, as long as the punctuation and spacing are correct. If you need help with that or how to format your reference, just ask. shoy (reactions) 18:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Dearest Shoy,thank you so very absolutely truly much for your significant help and kindful replies,hope we will communicate again on Wikipedia,warm regards.

thanks your greeting[edit]

I found the article of Jay Chou had some mistakes about his nationality, so I did some corrections.but I'm not familiar with edit system, so I repeated couple times,your word about I was nationalist and starting a edit-warring is ridiculous.I think you should understand some common sense. Let me tell you some facts about Taiwan, as well-konw,it's a part of China,executing some special policy.It is a common fact that Taiwan isn't a country but a province of China.you can't say Taiwan is a country just as I can't say your leg is a human. I also found the article "Taiwan" is full of mistakes.but I can't edit right now, may be you can help me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neobridge (talkcontribs) 14:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Without expressing an opinion either way, not everyone agrees that Taiwan is a part of China, as Taiwan makes clear. If you attempt to change that article unilaterally, I expect that you will be quickly reverted. shoy (reactions) 15:30, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 March 2019[edit]

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@GeneralizationsAreBad: Thanks! Just doing my part. shoy (reactions) 20:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

March 2019[edit]

Dear Shoy, thank you for your message on my contribution on Open-Handed Drumming. The reason that I did not back up what I wrote with annotated references is because what I wrote was an original observation. Even though I can't annotate my piece with an actual reference per se, I can cite a list of drummers who exemplify the 3 different methods that I am talking about. For example:

The drummers who exemplify dominant side riding are: Danny Carey (Tool) Gary Chester King Coffey (Butthole Surfers) Micky Dolenz (The Monkees) Mark Heron (Oceansize) Tom Hunting (Exodus) Sebastian Lanser Harry Miree Scott Travis (Judas Priest)

Then, I'd do the same for the off side riders and the ambidextrous riders.

Would that suffice?

Please advise,

Matthew A Jackson CCM Drummer --CCM Drummer (talk) 12:30, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@CCM Drummer: Unfortunately, we can't use your own observations. Wikipedia needs references to reliable sources, instead of original research. For example, you could cite an article in Rolling Stone or another music magazine or website. If you need help on how to add references, I would start by reading Help:Referencing for beginners. Good luck, shoy (reactions) 12:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)