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SportingFlyer 20:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Adele for deletion[edit]

There is currently a discussion taking place as to whether Portal:Adele should be deleted at MfD.
You are being notified because you were a participant in the previous nomination discussion.
Thank you, –MJLTalk 20:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/2004 Vaughan Shooters season[edit]

Hi SportingFlyer, I'm just responding to the question you asked in the Articles for deletion/2004 Vaughan Shooters season discussion. I found reliable independent secondary sources for the 2007-2009 seasons. From that period the club was covered regularly through the various Metroland Media Group newspapers. I think that assists in making them notable. The articles could be found at their website here are some of the links.[1] [2]

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A star[edit]

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For being a conscientious Wikipedia editor User:Lightburst 22:01, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh lord. I had a spelling blunder on that star! the difference between conscientious and contentious is just a few letters but the meaning is flipped 180. I appreciated your efforts and meant to give you the conscientious star! User:Lightburst 17:00, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Legally defined?[edit]

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Hudson, New Jersey and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Hudson, New Jersey you have mentioned the concept of 'legally defined', but have not clarified what you mean and how that relates to the discussion or what policy you are basing your claim on. You have added cited Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates but been unclear as what you are referring to. Can you please explain? Thanks Djflem (talk) 07:58, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, please, as offered, review the sources cited at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Hudson, New Jersey, which clearly establish the use of the term and it's definition.Djflem (talk) 09:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

  • @Djflem: Sorry, it was late and I thought WP:GEO linked to WP:GEOLAND, which discusses legally defined human geographies (states, counties, municipal councils) as opposed to "informal" geographies (such as North Hudson, which have to pass WP:GNG). As I've said, I've looked through the sources and I don't see anything which actually defines it as a place, informal or not - it's just WP:SYNTH. SportingFlyer T·C 18:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

I beg you too, open the link and make sure real info is on transport united fc page 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 truth forever — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:05, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Rollback granted[edit]

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Hi SportingFlyer. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! TonyBallioni (talk) 04:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Christopher Kaelin[edit]

A properly attributed block-quote is not a copyright violation. I am going to undo your edit and hope that you do not undo a properly referenced quote. Please focus elsewhere. User:Lightburst 04:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

  • @Lightburst: No, it can still be a copyright violation, especially since the copy and pasted text is from a copyrighted website. It's also bad form. What it's not is plagiarised, since it's properly attributed. I've left a note on the copyvio page for someone to take a look. SportingFlyer T·C 07:07, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
You have a misunderstanding of what constitutes a copyright violation. I would appreciate you not editing articles that I have started to remove properly referenced material without getting consensus. This is a big encyclopedia and there is much to do without squabbling with editors and living in contentious areas of WP. I have some articles to write. All my best to you. User:Lightburst 13:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
One again I am encouraging you to focus your attention elsewhere. I have enough to deal with on WP without having another editor engage in WP:HOUNDING. Someone else reverted your reversion on the Kaelin article I started ...thankfully. I do not wish to be in a content edit war with you. Please stop this bothersome activity. I also would like to ask you to take articles I started off of your watch list. My best to you. User:Lightburst 12:44, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
@Lightburst: I'm not WP:HOUNDING you. I did not look at the article since my last post here. The article is on my watchlist, and I saw you restored content which goes against WP:NPOV (by allowing the person to talk about themselves) in addition to being a potential copyright violation (it's non-free text.) I'm going to remove it again, and start a discussion on the talkpage. It has absolutely nothing to do with you. SportingFlyer T·C 19:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

North Hudson[edit]

As requested, I have provided references for your review at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Hudson, New Jersey. I expect they will satisfy your consideration to change your ivote to keep. Thanks. Djflem (talk) 06:25, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Working President[edit]

You indicated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Working President (2nd nomination) that you would give this a second look if sources were found. You might want to examine the sources I suggested in the discussion. SpinningSpark 12:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019[edit]

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Hello SportingFlyer,

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Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.


The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

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Western Sydney Wanderers FC NPL[edit]

Hello, SportingFlyer. The deletion of the Western Sydney Wanderers FC NPL article is fine with me. I'm happy to have the other A-League team NPL pages to be removed as soon as possible. I had discussions with Eccy89, and mentioned that I'm just taking well resourced information into one page to a new page.

Plus, the "Reserves" articles and Central Coast Mariners FC Under-25s and Academy page are already looking fantastic. I'm happy for the Reserves pages to stay, and the NPL ones to go. These NPL ones are just pointless.

FastCube (talk) 04:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)FastCube

You have no email[edit]

SportingFlyer You can email me if you have questions regarding the revdel. Cannot be published. Also not much more I can do regarding Kaelin, properly referenced does not matter. The edits you made remove the scientific explanations which cannot be reworded. So I will stop editing the article and leave it to the community. Happy fourth to you! Lightburst (talk) 03:34, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Meanings of minor planet names: 500001–501000 AFD repeat[edit]

I am contacting everyone who participated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of minor planets: 500001–501000 to tell you the same discussion is happening again at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meanings of minor planet names: 500001–501000. Dream Focus 12:33, 5 July 2019 (UTC)


Hey there. I just wanted to note that I think it's too bad your ORCP has gotten no response. I don't know all the ins and outs of your editing record and am not really the sort that should be weighing in at ORCP but the idea of you going to RfA is reasonable. You are definitely a legitimate candidate - which is of course different from saying you'd pass - and I'm sorry no one has given you any feedback. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:44, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @Barkeep49: Thank you very much. I was wondering if the silence was due to some sort of character flaw or if it was because the climate's just a bit odd right now, but I really appreciate your post. SportingFlyer T·C 23:58, 6 July 2019 (UTC)


Hi, I added another source to the article Draft:Europe_Elects. I think, it is okay by now. Further sources are shown at the talk of the article. Could you please recheck and publish the article? Thank you for your efforts.Stubenviech (talk) 14:20, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @Stubenviech: Hi mate, there are still not enough reliable sources in the article for it to be accepted. SportingFlyer T·C 01:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for coming back. Could you please have a look at the Talk of Europe Elects? I posted a link there, that shows many citations of Europe Elects. Which one should I choose? Thank you for your efforts. Stubenviech (talk) 11:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I added another source and tried again. It is from Saint Mary's University (Halifax). Are there an obstacles left, or can it finally get published?--Stubenviech (talk) 18:01, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
@Stubenviech: No, it's still not enough - that source is not necessarily independent enough of the topic (a university reporting on an alumnus) to help it get past WP:NORG. Has it been talked about in any newspapers? SportingFlyer T·C 18:05, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Razak Atunwa[edit]

Hello. Please confirm why you have marked this article for deletion. Thank you. Jembola (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I've moved this to the bottom of the page, incorrectly posted at top by Jembola. I've posted guidance on their talk page, deleted a further copyright violation and asked for a COI clarification, so you don't need to reply further unless you wish to, cheer Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents thread[edit]

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I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

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Re: Speedy deletion nomination[edit]

This is total nonsense. Everything you see on that page is accessible for free on the internet. The ICD-system is offered free of charge by the World Health Organisation. If my page is to be speedy-deleted, then so are all other ICD lists on Wikipedia. - Manifestation (talk) 13:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Bratislava Region Youth Council[edit]

Hi SportingFlyer I have reviewed the copyvio report and have included only the sourced info. Thanks! Albi the Dragon (talk) 17:09, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Well, nvm, some other dude just deleted it so I'll have to rewrite a draft, check it and corroborate an explanation on notability I guess. Albi the Dragon (talk) 22:23, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Maciej Kalkowski[edit]

Hello SportingFlyer,

Thank you for your recommendations for the page, Maciej Kalkowski. 7 references have been added, hopefully this is enough for it to be verifiable.

Thank you,

OLLSZCZ (talk) 01:20, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@OLLSZCZ: Looks great now as far as I can tell (I don't speak Polish.) Only problem was the article was only sourced to his two teams initially. SportingFlyer T·C 04:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 2019–20 Uganda Premier League (July 15)[edit]

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bkissin was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Bkissin (talk) 13:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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Iraqi Premier League[edit]

Hi SportingFlyer,

First of all thanks for your response! So basically I should just mark both seasons as 'Abandoned' + a note of the disputes?

Steel Dogg (talk) 21:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Adam Klein (baseball)[edit]

Hi SportingFlyer, I recently saw your review of the article that I submitted and would love to get some more feedback. I noticed that several other minor league professional baseball players have Wikipedia pages with similar kinds of sources. For example, Are there any sources in the "Adam Klein" article that would be considered "approved" by Wikipedia, so that I could possibly delete some of the content that is from the non-reliable sources and resubmit? Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. --WikiWriter135 (talk) 23:45, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @WikiWriter135: Reese Havens was drafted in the first round, received coverage in the New York Times, and was on the 40-man roster even though he never ended up playing in the big leagues, the articles are not comparable. Klein clearly fails WP:NBASE and all of the coverage of him specifically is routine coverage of an independent league team, so I don't think he would pass a deletion discussion, sorry. (Also, he never played for the Oakland Athletics, so the lead is very misleading.) SportingFlyer T·C 23:49, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @SportingFlyer: Thank you for your feedback. Are there any sources, such as the ones that highlight his statistics that would be "credible?" I also see plenty of Wikipedia articles of players that are either "stubs" or articles that just highlight the players' statistics. Would that be suitable? I guess my ultimate question is, how can I edit the page to make it be published? Thank you. --WikiWriter135 (talk) 23:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @WikiWriter135: honestly unless he received some sort of national coverage at some point it would be very hard for him to be notable enough for an article. SportingFlyer T·C 02:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:In Chang-soo[edit]

Hi SportingFlyer, I

This source is by Seoul E-Land FC Official Website. Please use google translater.

In Chang-soo is manager of football club manager of Fully Professional League. Footwiks (talk) 16:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)


No need to remove the styles, why don't you go check the colour clash chart! Govvy (talk) 08:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @Govvy: There was consensus in January, and as someone colourblind myself adding colour where no colour is needed isn't good, clash chart aside. SportingFlyer T·C 21:25, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
There was never a consensus there were already rules in place to follow, and I am also colour blind! Govvy (talk) 21:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
@Govvy: Looks like we have a simple disagreement, then. SportingFlyer T·C 21:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


How should we proceed with the larger RfC? Were at the point where editors are just repeating their points. Krazytea(talk) 23:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

  • @Krazytea: Probably an RfC on the Village Pump, advertised across sports, with proper examples from a number of different sports (see: Detroit Tigers). I'm not sure it will pass, though. SportingFlyer T·C 05:56, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

On Liberty[edit]

Is it ok to cite PhilPapers authors and titles only, thanks.Arnlodg (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Arnlodg: There was nothing wrong with citing that paper - it's just the citation included a needless copy of the abstract, so I went ahead and removed it. SportingFlyer T·C 07:01, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks, from noob[edit]

Appreciate the tip on the deletion page. Realize my mistake now. Homerseditor (talk) 17:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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