User talk:SuggestBot

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If you're here because you want SuggestBot to send you suggestions, please see the instructions at the top of User:SuggestBot. We offer both subscription services and the possibility of receiving a single set of suggestions.

Feedback on recommendations, ideas for new features, questions about how SuggestBot works, or anything else related to SuggestBot are all examples of topics welcome below. A bot moves older feedback to the archives regularly, there is also an archive in User:SuggestBot/FeedbackArchive. Thanks for stopping by to let us you what you think! Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 11:07, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Missing suggest bot?[edit]

Hello, my last list of suggestion was received on 29 October. Is the bot broken again? Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Just about to ask that as well. I should get suggestions twice a month but my last was also 29 October. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash and TheDoctorWho: Oh darn! Sorry that the suggestions have been missing, but thanks so much for letting me know about it! The bot was broken and I've restarted it, and it looks like it's posting suggestions as it should again now. Am currently doing maintenance work, and one part of the process will make it easier for me to keep an eye on what's going on so this doesn't happen again. So sorry to that they've been missing for over a month, and thanks again for notifying me! Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 19:42, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 20:50, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nettrom: - Sounds similar to issues with enwp10 tool failing about monthly here. I had suggested some kind of Restart button there. To make it easier to get it running again. Specifically for Suggestbot could there be a "daily test job" setup? To see if SB is running & if it fails, send error message to you. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 14:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey @Nettrom, I haven't had a post since 27 September. Not sure if this is related to the above issue. I see that others are receiving suggestions. Nzd (talk) 23:56, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi @Nzd, sorry to hear that! I looked into it, and you've run into an undocumented limitation of the bot. It doesn't post to pages larger than 250kB because those tend to time out, or it's often the (talk) page of a user who left Wikipedia without unsubscribing. However, it also becomes an issue when you get suggestions weekly and the user is an active Wikipedian. As in your case, it takes a few months and the bot runs into its size limitation all by itself.
I've added a note to the "limitations/issues" section of SuggestBot's talk page so that is documented somewhere. Additionally, I've opened several tasks around this on GitHub so I can remember to look into it. I'm working on switching from template substitution to using a Lua module for the suggestions to reduce the amount of wikitext used, and I'll be looking into having the bot leave a short message about why it'll stop posting suggestions if the page is large. Again, sorry about this! Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help you out. Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
@Nettrom: That makes total sense, thanks for the explanation. I'll set up an archive for that page (my main talk gets archived but I receive SuggestBot posts on a subpage). Might be worth suggesting others do the same in your note. Thanks, Nzd (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
@Nzd: Ah yes, that's a great suggestion, thanks! I've added a bit to the note and linked to the help page about automatic archiving. Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 03:39, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Confused[edit]

After getting what I consider to be offensive suggestions form SuggestBot, twice in a row, I have finally decided to stop getting suggestions. Frankly, what part of my editing history suggests that I am fascinated with explicit articles? Puzzledvegetable (talk) 00:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Looks like some sort of bug, or some of the articles you edited are in the same (very broad) categories. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 16:03, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Puzzledvegetable and ZLEA, and thanks for your patience with me in getting to respond to this. I looked into the recommendation logs, and from what I can tell this is a feature that can easily end up looking like a bug. It also results in recommendations that do not look meaningful.
What's going on is that the recommendations were made by SuggestBot's co-edit recommender. That recommender finds other users who edited the same articles as you, and then looks for articles that they edited that you haven't edited. While this approach works, it also has the drawback that sometimes the suggested article appears disconnected from what the user is interested in (this might happen often, but we don't have a straightforward way of getting feedback about the bot's suggestions). I am fairly certain that when it comes to the "why the heck was I suggested this?" question, the co-edit recommender is the most likely answer.
I'm sorry that you got these suggestions, Puzzledvegetable! I completely understand that these are not articles you're interested in, and that getting them suggested by SuggestBot is offensive. Improving SuggestBot's recommendations has been on my agenda for years, and I see this problem as renewed motivation to go fix it. I opened up a ticket over on GitHub to track this so it doesn't continue to be an idea stuck in my head. Thanks for reporting it! Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Frequency parameter?[edit]

Hey there! Thank you for this awesome resource. I don't know how to find a list of all parameters that can be specified and their valid values. Specifically, following the examples I did find, I set my personal bot to |frequency=once a day |replace=yes. I don't think it's delivering that way. Also, I wanted it's suggestion to always appear on the top of the page, so I copied the template to the top. But, it's suggestions were published at the bottom in a new section. Is there a way to tell it to publish at the top?TIA Usedtobecool (talk) 17:01, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Usedtobecool, thanks for using SuggestBot, happy to hear you find it useful! Hopefully I can help you out. You can find a list of the two parameters the bot currently supports on this page, in the "parameters" section. You already know about both of them, by the way.
When it comes to subscribing to get recommendations once a day, the bot interprets that as "once a week". There used to be technical reasons for why we didn't allow more frequent suggestions, whereas nowadays it's mainly that the bot isn't written to support it (e.g. there's code in place to make sure you don't get repeat suggestions, which would have to be modified so you don't see the same things every day). If you do want more frequent suggestions, you can at any time ask for a single set of suggestions and get those. They won't affect your subscription, so the subscribed ones will still arrive once a week. The caveat is that you might see some repeat suggestions if you do this a lot, and the bot won't replace suggestions, it'll just append them to the page (if you don't want to have a lot of suggestions on your talk page, you can create a subpage and put the template there).
Great question about how to get the suggestions to show up at the top of the page! You can do that, just move the section with the suggestions to where you want it, and SuggestBot will replace it there when it posts the next set of suggestions. The bot only appends a new set of suggestions to the page if it can't find a previous set. Your idea about looking for where the template is makes sense. One of the reasons why we don't do that is that a lot of Wikipedia users put a fair number of templates on their talk pages (e.g. SuggestBot, automatic archiving, various messages) and they usually go together at the top.
I hope this was helpful! Please let me know what further questions you have and I'll do my best to respond. And thanks again for using SuggestBot, appreciate it! Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 14:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, dude/ette. Very helpful. No more questions. I'm just gonna marvel at the quality of your reply for a moment, then, go about my business. Usedtobecool (talk) 15:01, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Community portal: Help out[edit]

Seems SuggestBot is not updating the "Add an image" section in Wikipedia:Community portal/Opentask. Could the maintainers please investigate? Thanks: Bhunacat10 (talk), 18:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Reverts included in suggestion?[edit]

Long story short I used to have Korean-topic articles in my suggestions but after a bunch of mass revert on corporations vandalism I got a suggestbot message full of corp. related suggestions. I'm not that interested in that topic — countetvandalism works are not always within my interest, so maybe something tagged as rollback can be excluded from suggestion? — regards, Revi 00:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Filed issue #32 as I saw the GitHub link above. — regards, Revi 00:38, 20 May 2019 (UTC)