User talk:Tornado chaser

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I know what I just did may seem to have been an edit war but it was an edit conflict mistake. I was trying to clean up mistakes I left behind in the article. I will avoid doing that again.Somenolife (talk) 20:20, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Somenolife: I did edit conflict with you, fixing the mistakes in the cites is fine, the only reason I said you were edit warring was because you changed the title back to "vaccine safety reporting". 20:22, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't accusing you of creating a conflict, only that I was not trying to do so with you. I hit the "edit conflict" page and use the back page to get my edits back, then hit submit which reverted the new title you put up.Somenolife (talk) 20:27, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
I know you weren't accusing me of creating a conflict, I did the same thing with the edit conflict button, I understand now. Tornado chaser (talk) 20:29, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
So I have seen that you have removed most of the content I added, which confuses me. Outside of the UMass Twitter account, everything I added was reported by her in interviews that she had with various individuals; why were none of those valid?Somenolife (talk) 20:35, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
@Somenolife: Wikipedia is supposed to use secondary sources, especially for controversial claims, so just referencing someone's website for info on something controversial she said is not good. Tornado chaser (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
I certainly understand the problem is 'she' said it, but in the interviews, those being interviewed are the ones making the claim. Dr. Bernadine Healy flatly says that she believed the medical officials working for the US federal government were being "too quick to dismiss the hypothesis" that vaccination could cause autism in a subset of children, as I quoted in the article. I am also confused by the removal of the Full Measure article; though she is associated with it, she doesn't have full control of the show, AFAIK. Wouldn't a report by Anderson Cooper on his show be just as valid for his talk page?Somenolife (talk) 20:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Michael Beasley[edit]

I was editing Michael Beasley's profile and I was just providing straight facts, none of the information I provided was invalid. You gave me a level two warning and said I will be banned soon.

You were blatantly vandalizing wikipedia, do it again and I tell an admin to block you. Tornado chaser (talk) 03:31, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Scout MLG[edit]

Are you still working with and/or keeping an eye on this user? Looking at their talk page of late, there seems to be a lot issues popping up again. They could end up at ANI again and/or blocked. FYI (pinging Swarm) - wolf 17:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for reminding me, I'll take a look Tornado chaser (talk)

CVU unit[edit]

hi, TC, i want ask how can i join CVU unit (Counter-Vandalism Unit) as well counter-vandalism training program? Scout MLG (talk) 23:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Scout MLG: & TC, dont forget to sign your posts guys. - wolf 22:43, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
@Scout MLG: To be honest I know nothing about the counter-vandalism training program, the CVU userbox I have is just a way of saying I stop vandalism.
EDIT: I just looked at the counter-vandalism training page and it says you should understand more of the basics of editing before starting training Tornado chaser (talk) 23:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

How can I become Administrator[edit]

Hi, TC, I sudden saw request for adminship (RFA) but, how can I be admin (Self-nominations) candidate? thank you Scout MLG (talk) 04:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Scout MLG: You need to really understand wikipedia's policies well, and have years of experience, I have been editing for 2 years, have made 23,000 edits, have been granted rollback and pending changes reviewer rights without asking, but still am not planning to run for adminship anytime soon. I don't mean this in a condescending way, but anyone who has to ask how to be an admin is at least 2-3 years away from having a chance at it, there are editors who have been on wikipedia for 10 years but still aren't admins. Tornado chaser (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
I have been here over 12 years and am not an admin. I have had a couple of people urge me to run, but none of them could supply a good reason why anyone would want to become a Wikipedia administrator. It's a shitty, unpaid job. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Perhaps Scout MLG should read this page with advice for admin hopefuls, as well as the other guide and advice pages about becoming an admin that are linked there. FYI - wolf 22:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


Hi, TC, recently I feel somekind of concern:
I mean in future, if some bad (vandalism) wiki user is getting blocked but still can edit by somekind of hacking tool, then, what should we do? Scout MLG (talk) 12:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

If they are actually hacking, this is an issue for the technical people and perhaps law enforcement, but I have never herd of the on wikipedia. WHat is more likly is that they will create a new account or edit on a different IP to evade the block, this is not hacking but socking, and is grounds for a block on all accounts or IPs used by the blocked user, and usually an extension of the block.
Socking can be a confusing thing for a new user to deal with, so I recommend letting me know if you suspect socking and I can file a sockpuppet report if it is warranted. let me know if you have any more questions. Tornado chaser (talk) 03:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you left me a message about editing something on Dorking. I didn't do it, I'm in New Zealand and know little enough about the UK. Maybe you could check the IP address again and get to the right person? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary Sanctions Alert[edit]

Commons-emblem-notice.svgThis is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in pseudoscience and fringe science. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

--Guy Macon (talk) 00:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

(Zero issues with your edits. I am just hitting everyone on the Jenny McCarthy page that hasn't received a pseudoscience and fringe science discretionary sanctions alert in the last year) --Guy Macon (talk) 00:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)