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re: "official white house portraits"[edit]

no, they don't have "special status" at WIKIPEDIA. & please kindly show me the WP that says otherwise? Lx 121 (talk) 23:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Say for example Talk:Hillary_Clinton#photo, where a user asks about using a more "current" image rather than her Sec. of State photo, but this is declined as there is a preference for "official" images rather than just being new and current. That user there links to George Bush as another example of a similar image discussion. The same convention would follow for older presidents, to use an official portrait rather than some nattily-done, poor-quality daguerreotype or similar. You seem to claim that there should be an order of precedence that a photograph (regardless of quality) preempts a painting. That is to put it politely, silly. ValarianB (talk) 20:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
none of that is Wikipedia Policy, or even a guideline. that is an opinion & decision in one discussion on one talk page. & the users there don't & cannot cite any policy to support the decision; it is merety a preference on the part of the persons in the discussion.
&, as the hilly article is a biography of a living person, i would have supported updating the image; particularly as she subsequently ran for president in 2016.
also; nobody in that discussion favoured using a PAINTING of her as lede image.
still @ zero on finding wp to support your claim.
as for "nattily done" & "poor quality daguerreotype", i'm not gong to go over that again, but why don't you read about the history of daguerreotypes, & how they are made, before you make unfounded opinions about them? daguerreotypes are actually extremely high-resolution images. i suspect you have never seen or handled a real one; i have.
Lx 121 (talk) 05:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
From what I've seen in my short time here, the project works by consensus, and rules and guides are applied with common sense. The common sense consensus appears to reject your proposals since you have had your edits turned back on several articles and that image policy discussion didn't go your way either. I don't see the need to continue this discussion on this talk page, so please let's make this the last input. Thanks. ValarianB (talk) 15:15, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I only removed it because photo was cropped — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmYisroelChai (talkcontribs) 17:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

January 2017[edit]

Information icon Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to The Stooges (album), without providing a source or establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Dan56 (talk) 19:26, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

It is you that lacks consensus, I'm afraid. ValarianB (talk) 19:55, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion fo sandbox[edit]

When I joined Wikipedia I got a message saying I could use my sandbox to experiment, so could you please just leave it be. It is little wonder that Wikipedia is in decline if this is how you treat new users. Since I joined I've had one edit changed with it being accused of vandalism, when that wasn't the case, and now this. It is little wonder that you have such trouble retaining editors. Chocolatebareater (talk) 21:15, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)There was already a message on your talk page about why this sandbox copy of your article at AFD was not a good idea. Since the article is certain to be deleted, and there is no way to change what you have written that would make the material worth keeping I agree with ValarianB that there is no point in having the sandbox copy. I will blank it again. If you restore it again I will ask to have the sandbox deleted once the article is deleted. Meters (talk) 23:29, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
The article is a bad idea, as many people have said so far. No need to keep another copy of it. ValarianB (talk) 12:42, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Let's reduce the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement![edit]

Hi ValarianB, thank you for your edit. I really don't know how to react to this. He may have a point regarding this specific type of power source, but I don't really know how it plays into this project. --Gnom (talk) 18:00, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. This person is obviously very passionate about this but also a bit misinformed as to impact and does not seem like he is a native English speaker. Makes it difficult to interact with. ValarianB (talk) 18:13, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey there[edit]

My sister (like myself) grew up in western Vermont. She had to take classes to "suppress" her native accent to sound general american for voice overs. Also, if you listen to thatt sound clip, that is most certainly the vermont accent, which is not General American. I don't agree with Labov on this for that reason alone. Also, I'm not keen on letting one particular source be so much info for these things. Labov is cited over a dozen times for that article. Just my opinion on this. I'm not lying about my sister having to get rid of her western Vermont accent to do voice overs. SirUltimos (talk) 13:51, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm a Mainer, transplanted to Connecticut. Y'all sound the same. :) But really, if you think it is different then I won't remove it again but unless you find a source to support your own position, other editors may disagree. ValarianB (talk) 14:00, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. Any chance you can redo it? I don't edit wikiepdia so I don't want to seem like I'm destroying the page. Your a regular here. If another editor disagrees, I'll talk to them a bout it. There is a part later on in that article does state that the vermont accent is different, and I agree with that. I think Labov generalizes too much. Other sources say there are various splits in western new england english. Which is why I strongly disagree with Labov calling "western" New England GA. And again, what I said about my sister having to suppress her vermont accent. Thank you. SirUltimos (talk) 14:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
OK, all set. ValarianB (talk) 14:23, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Rollbacker[edit]

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Sounds good, thanks. :) I like to look at Special:RecentChanges from time to time and pick off the obvious vandalised pages. ValarianB (talk) 14:44, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

New RfC at Plummer v. State[edit]

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Big Brother 19 (U.S.) Image[edit]

Hi ValarianB I saw your edit summary and I added an explanation as to why File:Big Brother 16 (U.S.) Logo.png can't be used on the article page at this time. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 14:00, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Gaslighting[edit]

'The Machinist' issue in 'In fiction' section is understandable and it was a mistake. The proper sentence might be that the principal character Trevor took his psychosis to be an effect of gaslighting. But the other example of 'Bipin Chowdhuryr Smritibhrom' by Satyajit Ray is a genuine example and the short story is quite famous in Bengali literature, while the author is a person with international reputation. According to Wikipedia's policy, citing regional literature is not exempted. Then how can this be an insignificant example? Rishi193 (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

If Bipin Chowdhuryr Smritibhrom is historic and notable, than it should be easy to find a citation to it. If you make an assertion in a Wikipedia article, you have to give the reader information on where to find and verify it. ValarianB (talk) 15:32, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Actually the issue is somewhat different. The story was not only immensely popular in Bengali literature, its English translation was included in the school syllabus of a well known board of India at one time. Several discussions on this story can be found in web, but they are mostly related to questions and answers for school students. I don't know whether they are reliable source or not.Rishi193 (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Christmas Abbott's Age[edit]

https://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/christmas-abbott.html enough said bro, I can go all day long, I will keep changing it so just stop while you're ahead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewreliford (talkcontribs) 16:17, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Not a reliable source; CBS.com is. Thank you for stating your intent to edit-war though, that will be an actionable comment once you are reported to WP:ANEW. Cheers! ValarianB (talk) 16:21, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

then how is her own instagram not reliable enough? pretty sure she knows as well as her sponsors know how old she is — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewreliford (talkcontribs) 16:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

And I am equally sure that the network that signed her to one of their top-line reality tv programs would know her age as well, which is why primary sources are not always reliable/acceptable. Make your case at Talk:Big_Brother_19_(U.S.)#Christmas_Abbot.27s_age, not here. ValarianB (talk) 17:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump[edit]

Sorry about the whole revert deal on that article. I completely misunderstood what was going on. I had to backwards with Bergeronp on the reverts. Again my mistake. PackMecEng (talk) 17:54, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

No prob, Emir kinda started the whole pile-on. ValarianB (talk) 18:52, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

DeAndre Harris[edit]

Thanks for letting me know that the article DeAndre Harris is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DeAndre Harris. I appreciate that. I will contribute to the Articles for deletion page discussion. How long will the discussion remain open?Oceanflynn (talk) 23:30, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Generally 7 days, though an administrator can extend that if participation is light or there is a clear deadlock, and they feel that a few more days and a re-listing might attract more eyes. ValarianB (talk) 11:56, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Note[edit]

I think something happened to your comment here. Volunteer Marek  13:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks, sentence fragments. I sometimes compose, then rearrange, set a bit aside for a later sentence. Forgot to clean up after myself. :) ValarianB (talk) 13:44, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Where[edit]

Where was the consensus reached that you mentioned here?--MONGO 15:08, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Unite the Right rally, click the archived discussion box, and plug in "terrorist". There was essentially one single-focused editor "ScratchMarshall" who pushed again and again for the category removals, and was consistently and repeatedly rebuffed. ValarianB (talk) 15:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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Articles regarding the Arab-Israeli conflict[edit]

I noticed you reverted a number of articles edited by a blocked user. I haven't had time to look at all of them, but I've fact-checked the changes on the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, Mandatory Palestine, Peel Commission and Template:Palestinian territory development and I now feel comfortable to undo the rollbacks on them. Mr. Dodo'sss (talk) 13:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

So you tried again to game the system with another account, it appears? ValarianB (talk) 12:41, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Baked_Alaska_(entertainer)[edit]

Having hopefully help fix one problematic title, maybe you could take a look at this one too.No longer listed on WP:RM bit will inevitably end up back there when options are narrowed. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:07, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

That's a tough one, he's certainly not an entertainer. There really isn't a word yet coined for this sort of virally-famous-for-being-a-racist phenomenon found in the alt-right, and it's doubly complicated when you have people oppose it because it is too controversial e.g. (white supremacist) and those who oppose it because it isn't the harsher of the available terms. Would it be possible to just move the article to his real name? I mean, these are just regular people with internet handles, not superhero identities. ValarianB (talk) 14:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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Sean Hannity[edit]

I am not watering the information regarding Jake Tapper down, I am trying to ensure accuracy. Sean Hannity repeated the words of Jake Tapper, but in a misleading way without the qualifying text. Hannity did not explicitly lie though. Oscar248 (talk) 13:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Valarian, would you care to explain why you do not agree with this suggested change? Silence is not a valid objection.Slatersteven (talk) 14:10, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm not available for immediate response to pings or talk page messages or whatnot, kinda busy with this thing called "having a job", Mr. Steven. Give it a try sometime. I will respond when I am willing and able to. ValarianB (talk) 15:40, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Jamesharrison2014 ANI Round 2[edit]

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White House press corp RFC[edit]

There is an open RFC on Talk:White House press corps Billhpike (talk) 16:32, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Message for others[edit]

I've been in a few active discussions of late so if anyone comes by with further updates or pings and so on, I am off on vacation til the New Year. Merry merry. ValarianB (talk) 21:02, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

I am reverting your editing of Sant'Ambrogio, Valsolda[edit]

Of course I am biased because I first wrote the article, and I would be the first to admit that this a church of minor importance, but my goal has been to document the sheer volume of ancient italian churches, their dedications, and decorations. But more importantly is my disagreement with your facts: "No indication of notability, could not find anything online. likely search term) (Tag: New redirect)"

The church is mentioned in a number of secondary sources, including the one citation used in the article.

but also

and in the commune website Comune di Valsolda -chiese

The dedication of a church here to St Ambrose, former archbishop of Milan, is not exceptional given the short distance to Milan, however, the territory appears to have belonged to the Monastery of St Ambrose prior to the 13th century, as cited in the wikipedia entry on Valsolda: "Fu feudo dell'impero da tempo immemorabile, appartenente agli abati del monastero di Sant'Ambrogio di Milano." Someone in the future could use various articles to map the geographic possessions of large abbeys such as Farfa and Nonantola and Sant'Ambrogio.

Needless to say it is a church that was built initially over 5 centuries ago, and was decorated with frescoes over 3 centuries ago. Again wikipedia notability does not place any emphasis on content, but on verifiability in independent sources. I believe the source from the commune or proloco suffice. I would consider these reliable secondary sources. How trivial is the mention of the church in those sources: I try to see that church has some link to time, place, and manner; in this case: age of construction (15th century); place (Valsolda); and manner (frescoed by a Stefano Vignola).

If you still dispute this assessment, I recommend placing it up for debate. Rococo1700 (talk) 15:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

If it was actually notable, one would imagine that you would have written more than 3 sentences about it in almost two years. ValarianB (talk) 17:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry[edit]

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