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Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

Hello, X42bn6, Welcome to Wikipedia!
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Happy editing!
Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed that you were quick to use the reference desk for one of your questions. There's also the handy help desk too - you can get there if you type WP:HD in the search box. Lots of Wikipedia pages have abbreviations. Also, to use the user talk pages, you can click on the little plus sign (+) next to the "edit this page" link. This automatically makes a new heading, and is very convenient to use. Happy editing! :-) --HappyCamper 11:45, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome[edit]

Welcome! (We can't say that loudly enough!)

Here are a few links you might find helpful:

You can sign your name on talk pages and votes by typing ~~~~; our software automatically converts it to your username and the date.

If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on my talk page. Or, please come to the Wikipedia Boot Camp, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

We're so glad you're here!

I saw your entry on the New Users page, especially your note about American English. Make sure you read over the national varieties of English policy. -- Essjay · Talk 08:13, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

That's not what I meant, I swear! I didn't mean to imply you couldn't use American English; I just wanted to give you the heads up about the way Wikipedia deals with the diversity of "versions." There have been "edit wars" over using one way or the other and new users can easily get "bitten" by other users if they make changes without realizing that there's a policy. (It wouldn't be the first time someone innocently changed "center" to "centre" or "honor" to "honour.") Rencently, there was a flare up over "gasoline" v. "petrol"; I wouldn't want you to wander into the middle of something like that unprepared. Just trying to keep the "vicious" users at bay by giving you the heads up; I feel like the lion tamer! "Back you bitter oldies! He's new! Back I say!"
I hope you enjoy the wiki, and if you have any questions, let me know. :-> -- Essjay · Talk 09:07, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Hello![edit]

I just saw your one of comments recently, and I wanted to stop by and say another welcome to the Wikipedia community, and also have a Happy 17th Birthday! =) --Andylkl (talk) July 2, 2005 03:47 (UTC)

Reverting[edit]

Hi there. I saw your summary at the Carrie Underwood article, and I've noticed that you said that you didn't know how to revert. Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version is the link that will show you how to revert articles to previous versions. I hope this will be of great help to you! Regards, --Gramaic | Talk 07:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

point of inflexion[edit]

I replied on my talk page. Oleg Alexandrov 15:30, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

nudity and speedy deletion[edit]

Hello. A picture containing nudity clearly does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion. If you want that image deleted, follow the proper image for deletion process. Some related pages that you may want to read over include:

-- JamesTeterenko 15:31, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

American Samoa[edit]

Thanks for the heads up on the U.S. Congressional Delegations from American Samoa. This wasn't never meant to be an article, per se; but they were meant as Templates for the Congressional member articles floating around . - Hoshie | Support the Chagossians! 08:44, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Adaminaby[edit]

Thanks. I was doing several at the same time and I must have hit this one by mistake. CambridgeBayWeather 09:05, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Hopen directing to Smøla[edit]

Hi there, You were asking why I blanked out the redirecting of Hopen to Smøla. It's simply because they have nothing to do with each other!
Smøla is as described correctly in Wikipedia a municipality far away from Svalbard and the Hopen redirecting to it.

I think there might be a confusion with Hopen Brygge, which is part of Smøla.

Best regards. /John.


-- ** ADDED LATER ** --

Hmm. OK, I suppose it is in a way correct to redirect it as Hopen is ALSO indeed a part of Smøla. Sorry for what I wrote earlier. The reason I blanked it out in the first place was that I stumbled upon it when reading about the 3 islands of Svalbard and Hopen there linked directly to Smøla through that redirect.

So, there is are obviously two places in Norway that can be refered to as Hopen, and I therefore I still don't think there should be an automatic redirect to Smøla.

Best regards, /John.

Redirect[edit]

No need to tell me of something like that...and I really can tell the difference between a banana and a chemical. Trust me. :) If you look at the edit history, you'll see the original entry was near nonsense. Redirects have the advantages of being both cheap and preventing red links. - Lucky 6.9 07:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Eagle River[edit]

You put the cleanup tag on Eagle River, Alaska, and I'm a native of there, so I could help you out. I just don't quite know what to add. DevastatorIIC 20:53, September 11, 2005 (UTC)


Tony Award for Best Book of a Musical[edit]

My message about the bolding was directed at people who might want to de-bold the list of winners. I wanted the winners in bold so that I could add the nominees later in unbold--if someone unbolded the winners just because the nominees weren't added yet, it would be more difficult for me to re-bold when I added the nominees! So don't look at the top of the list (where nominees haven't been added yet), look at the bottom of the list where there are nominees. Some bold is certainly needed so that the winner stands out; I'm not really sure whether the winning writer should be bold as well. In terms of emphasis, I think both the name of the play and the name of the writer deserve emphasis; this award is given to the writer's contribution to the play, not to the play as a whole. It doesn't really matter to me, so I'll yield to your judgement in the matter. If you think one line out of four in bold is too much, I won't object. What does need to be changed, in my opinion, is the winner being on a separate line from the year. That I'm changing back, because it's important to do that to make the winner stand out--that way, it's easier for the eye just to pick out the winners from year to year with the indentation. If there's any other formatting thoughts you have, feel free to post at Talk:Tony Award for Best Book of a Musical and we can discuss it there.Kevin M Marshall 04:56, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

English spelling[edit]

I noticed your comment on Talk:Main Page that said Wikipedia is written in American English except for certain cases. This is not the policy. For the English Wikipedia, there is no preference among the major national varieties of English. Though articles that focus on a topic specific to a particular English-speaking country should generally conform to the spelling of that country. Evil MonkeyHello 04:31, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Rick_W._Vanover[edit]

Thanks for pointing out the deletion of this article. I am new to Wikipedia (I mean editing it, not reading) and is getting a feel of things. Will be careful next time..

PeaSea

selfref template[edit]

Thanks for fixing {{selfref}}, but do you know why the editors included that <hidden> part with the {{main}} and See also in the first place? (And this has been a recent addition as well). —jiy (talk) 02:09, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes I meant <noinclude> oops. I understand why it would be used for things like categorizing the template into say Category:Wikipedia maintenance, but shouldn't comments, rationale, usage instructions, etc. go in the template's talk page? Actually, it seems User:Zondor has been applying this convention of including meta-info within the template for several templates. I'm not sure if he's doing this alone or if there is some discussion behind it? Personally I find it confusing. —jiy (talk) 02:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Use of "minor edit" tag[edit]

Greetings, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I notice you left a comment several paragraphs long at Talk:Proof that 0.999... equals 1. You tagged the comment as a "minor edit", which is not what you want. A typical minor edit corrects spelling or punctuation. Busy editors can hide all minor edits from their Watchlist if they choose; they would never be aware of your comment. Since all your edits are tagged minor, it's likely that you selected that option in your Preferences under the Editing tab. Either choice is fine of default is fine, but you still need to decide for each edit whether it is minor. For your protection, I would recommend not using "minor" as default, because it's a mere nuisance if a truly minor edit is not so tagged, but it is considered bad behavior to tag some major edits as minor.

There is no need to reply, but if you wish you can do so here. Happy editing. --KSmrqT 08:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

The reason I leave that by default is because the majority of my edits are minor. :) x42bn6 Talk 08:30, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

"Rick Vanover"[edit]

Rick vanover does not give 36000 google hits. With quotes it gives 83 hits, which is definitely a lot less. (my name in quotes gives 15 hits and I haven't authored a book. Any I support the deletion of the article.. PeaSea

The ratio test[edit]

You are right. I replaced the text with what is in your sandbox. With one exception, I like the period (.) inside of the math tags. Otherwise, if it is outside, it can look a bit misaligned, and sometimes it even goes to a new line. Thank you for your patience. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:39, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page, to keep all discussion in one place. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:01, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
And I replied again. on my talk page. :) Let me know when you get that article done. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Method of differences[edit]

Hi. I know the method of differences under the name telescoping series, and we already have an article under the latter name. I know, it's very annoying, isn't it? I put a merge tag on your article, but afterwards I thought that it would be nicer to tell you personally. So here you are. Would you mind looking if you can combine the articles? I especially like your discussion on how it does not always work. Cheers, Jitse Niesen (talk) 17:57, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

My fault. I did not recognize the method as telescoping series when X42bn6 mentioned it to me before writing the article. Yes, I guess the two will need to be merged now. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:35, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Template choice[edit]

I've changed it again to {{lowercase-user}}, lol. There's a category as well. Hopefully if the software ever changes to allow lowercase titles, that will allow users who want their name changed to quickly do so. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 16:45, Jan. 30, 2006

Regarding Digimon and Digimon: Digital Monsters (anime)[edit]

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. The most recent change I've done to the Digimon page is changing the vocal credits for the 02, Tamers, and Frontier ED songs. Digimon: Digital Monsters (anime) is not on my watchlist, so I don't edit anything on it. Soulsteelgray 02:01, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Loewemon[edit]

I know it's a bit mad to say this - and I know you've no real reason to believe me, as I'm just some guy you've bumped into on Wikipedia - but while Frontier was airing in the US, I was in regular contact with the dub director, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn, to gain information on voice actors and such things for my [website]. She confirmed that "Loewemon" spelling for me as the one used in the show's scripts, but since the character's name never appeared onscreen, and since Bandai called him "Loweemon," that spelling never really entered popular use with fans. - Chris McFeely 30th December 2005

Technically, they are the same thing mind, as oe is a way of writing ö without the umlaut. Oh, and PS.. while I'm also just another random person on the internet, I can vouch for Chris' veracity on matters concerning the Digimon dub Shiroi Hane 03:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Digimon Systems Update[edit]

I'm trying to get some stuff done over at the digimon wikiproject, and have reorganized the project page. I also added a To-do list. In hoping we can collaborate. Circeus 17:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

True Love[edit]

Your edit to True Love introduced piping to the disambiguation page. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) prescribes not using piping on disambigaution pages. Thanks, --Commander Keane 09:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Huh?[edit]

What are you talking about? If it is about Template:Announcements/Community bulletin board, if you look at the edit history, you'll notice the multiple exclamation marks were there before I added the link to the PR release. If not, then I honestly have no idea what you are talking about; I can't remember the last time I even used an exclamation mark on Wikipedia. -- llywrch 02:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

We all make mistakes. If you still feel guilty, edit a random article. ;-) llywrch 03:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Ratio test[edit]

Well, f is usually associated with a function, while a, b, c, are usually associated with either constants or cconstant coefficients (that change with n if its a_n etc). So I changed it to f to make it ever so slightly clearer that the ratio test takes the nth *function* of the summation series, rather than a coefficient or constant. Fresheneesz 10:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Manchester United[edit]

Yeh sorry I realised I'd been doing something wrong after a while so I posted on the talk page, because I wasnt sure. My apologies. What does it mean to pipe links? Philc T+C 11:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, I think youve misunderstood what I was doing, I was unpiping all the Manchester United links that linked to Manchester United F.C., partly because as far as I am aware the club is named Manchester United and not Manchester Untied F.C., as it changed its name. I posted on the talk page about this though, because no-one else seems to have mentioned it, so it might not be true. Philc T+C

Sorry[edit]

I'm sorry if you think I'm too new to be an adminship but I've been being a Wikipedian since December, 2003. I just didn't have an account. I know all about Wikipedia. I have interviewed many Wikipedians and have even made friends with a few. I WAS a perfect adminship nominee. An old nominee, General Eisenhower 17:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

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Alan Smith[edit]

thank you for your feedback on my edits of the article for the footballer 'Alan Smith', and although out of respect for your work i have not changed what you wrote there, i feel the need to point out that i disagree with your appraisal of my contribution. firstly, i wrote that all incidents involving friction between smith and leeds united supporters were 'alleged' which is different from saying that they definately occured. in addition, as a leeds united supporter and someone who is in constant contact with many other leeds supporters, i can say definitely that alan smith DID offend many leeds fans by moving to manchester united, and that he did not finish the season by kissing the badge, but rather cursed at leeds fans during his final away game. west yorkshire police also advised against smith appearing in the testimonial for former leeds player Lucas Radebe in 2005 because they were unable to guarantee the security of the match if Smith took part. this is clear evidence that Smith's relationship with Leeds supporters is tarnished beyond repair, following his comments and actions immediately prior to his departure from the club. this negative apsect of his reputation has been completely glossed over in the article on Smith's career, however, and i feel that this is fundamentally wrong, and that it is not in the best interests of wikipedia accuracy to ignore these extremely negative aspects of his character. as you are a more senior editor, however, i leave it to your discration to decide what is right. thank you - perry w.b. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pxw324 (talkcontribs)

Mega Digimon[edit]

My uncle might not be called a reliable source but Bandai New York has an article about it on their information website but good luck finding the website funny boy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by April2 (talkcontribs)

I'm assuming you can keep this person (↑) in check? I'll be going off. Circeus 02:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou for your contributions![edit]

For your constant contributions to Wikipedia, I award you this cookie as a token of our appreciation. --Draicone (talk)

As a member of the kindness campaign, and on behalf of all the Wikipedians out there, I'd like to thank you for your tireless contributions to Wikipedia with this cookie. Feel free to add it to your user page or similar, and tell the world :) --Draicone (talk) 10:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Not vandalism[edit]

You are of course totally right, I think I slipped that one in a moment of distraction. Anyway, thanks for the heads-up though. Take care --Xasf 08:26, 11 August 2006 (GMT+3)

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You may be interested to take a look at this project page (and it's talk page) where a few of us are trying to reorganized all the -mon articles on Wikipedia. It's a big task (considering how many digimon articles there are) so any help would be appreciated ^_^ -`/aksha 07:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

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Wayne Rooney reversion[edit]

Just wanted to say sorry I missed the added nicknames when I reverted a POV edit on the wayne rooney page, I should have checked the last few previous edits. Many thanks for sorting it out RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Manchester United F.C.#Sokongan[edit]

Please see my respons on your edits at Malay's Kedai Kopi. :) &mdash Polar 16:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Help desk question[edit]

Hi. I've made an edit to your help desk answer regarding a user's edit. As I'm sure you're aware of, WP:BLP encourages us to avoid unsourced negative info about living persons, and we could avoid repeating such comments inadvertently. Just a note. Thanks for helping out at the desk. Cheers. Xiner (talk, email) 03:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Françoise Chandernagor[edit]

Thanks for the clean up, it needed it, and I hope to learn from it. Is external link a reference? <Yoradler5 15:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)>

Re: Your comment[edit]

I know no one "owns" a page, but I should get credit for making one if I started it in the first place. -- SilvaStorm

But surely you must get some "personal satisfaction" in knowing that you began a page for something that turns out to be quite popular? -- SilvaStorm

Barnstar[edit]

Thanks! The guy had some nerve, so I was only too happy to minimise the damage he was causing. - Dudesleeper · Talk 00:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

question[edit]

why'd you remove my question from aiv page? It's a legit admin question. Rlevse 00:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. no problem.Rlevse 00:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

x42bn6[edit]

Your username is more like a password. I suppose that after a while I'll be able to keyboard it without checking it over and over. I also suppose that it's not without significant meaning, why else? ;-) --hydnjo talk 08:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC) Oops, fixed username. --hydnjo talk 19:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


just so you know[edit]

you are threating me and me and Craxy were doning nothing please stop threating and we have the freedom if a black man was to beat you up because you did first thats called self defence and should not be accused of vilonce this is not a threat or mad note this is simpley telling you to please repeat PLEASE stop threating me and my homie im only mad at Kyltym because of his rude aggenst Blacks and Hispanic note —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Butterrum (talkcontribs) 04:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

sir i do not like or love and will not take racisum he should be warned as well and tell that guy that is saying im racist to please back off i was only using self defence and will not take this i dont not like the fact 100 people are warning me for nothing he should be warn ~Jesus loves remeber that~ and freedom is beatiful

yes i do bealvie your claims of me being cool but nop that is not what started this this is a new issue i am curtly angered by the fact of him saying he hates Blacks and Hispanics and he shall also be warned

i demand to talk to the owner of wikipedia all the adfmin are curropted and seem to follow one person--Butterrum 10:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

This user has been throwing around accusations of racism, personal attacks, and corruption for some time (and is probably lucky not to have been blocked for them); when asked for evidence, he simply repeats the accusations at louder volume. I've tried to find any evidence for his accusations, but have failed. Judging by his writing, it may be that his reading skills have misled him as to what other editors are saying (though that might be assuming good faith one step too far). Have a look at my Talk page for a taste. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 13:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

GTA gang-wars[edit]

Yeah, I semi-protected one page and have been trying to persuade people to be nice to one another and concentrate on putting type to page, rather than getting caught up in feuds. Probably best this is dealt with by multiple admins, so it can be seen as impersonal. TimVickers 04:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Love at first sight[edit]

You misunderstand me. I am not one to deny that love at first sight exists, or that couples fortunate enough to be blessed with it find courtship unnecessary. However, in its earlier version, the article implied that it was enough for one person to fall in love from first sight for the courtship ritual to be abandoned. As I am sure You'll agree, this is not the case. I simply wanted clarity. --132.69.234.73 20:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:John O'Shea (footballer)[edit]

I remove some lines at the discussion page for John Francis O'Shea page (the footballer), that had no reliable source. Other persons had replied to the material and therefor I removed that also making the discussion page for John Francis O'Shea blank. I can't see any wrongdoing. Infact if any person can put a comment on a articles discussion page with remarks to sexual preferences with no reliable source I might be tempted to put one here and I will complain if you remove it due to lack of source material. "Controversial material of any kind that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.243.177.248 (talkcontribs).

Re: Canvassing[edit]

Thank you for your message and your concern. Actually, I did not consider myself in any danger of running afoul of the canvassing guideline, as it allows for friendly notification of a limited number of familiar, like-minded individuals. All of the people who have been notified have been previously involved in some capacity in the most recent, style-related discussions connected with the Clamp group and its work, with the two most vocal supporters of stylized typography in these matters - pfahlstrom and Kyaa the Catlord, I believe the later voiced the respective canvassing concerns - already being present at the table. Regards - Cyrus XIII 23:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Hi X42bn6. Thank you for your support in my RfA. Rest assured that I heard every voice loud and clear during the discussion, and will strive to use the mop carefully and responsibly. Please don't hesitate to give me constructive criticism anytime.

Now, let me smother you. Xiner (talk, email) 13:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


well[edit]

what im talking about is all the admintors are leting a single person get away with some stuff a user was dealted and he didnt state why he deated him or blocked him at all and this certain user is sort of controlling aidmin to come here say that i cant spell then leave or even let me write anything and i already listed the resion for my stuff all the admin i know are to curropt or is/are sockpuppets--Butterrum 16:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm Sorry[edit]

I just want to apologize for all of this nonsense I'm dealing with; I'm doing my best not to egg him on, but it seems like it's not doing any good, and more and more people, perhaps unnecessarily, are getting involved. Something that was a simple content dispute between 2 editors 4 months ago has become something much worse. I just wish to apologize for all of the stress this may have caused you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 18:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

True, but I didn't want any other people dealing with this "jackass-edness" I had to deal with for more that 3 months. It's pretty annoying and I'd rather no one else have to deal with it. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 00:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

your bent[edit]

im geting clean admin to take a look at this problem he threaten me and your not even doing anything about ti he swore to thyis is called Fraud you chould be stripped of your rank as a admin so i got a few clean one to scope this out and deal with certin users that are bending admin --Butterrum 02:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

because i need help i need tusted help because i hate that theres curroted users and people geting blocked because of crazyness and that im blame for sock puppeting i dont need your help if your the one thats making it even more worse--Butterrum 14:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry & Immaturity[edit]

Both Craxy and Butterrum have been getting in on the sockpuppeting craze; I don't have any concrete evidence but I'm sure it's them; check my talk page. Man, this is annoying.... ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 15:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind; Mel Etis (I hope I spelled that right) has handled it. Thanks anyway. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 15:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
No need. It's been taken care of: Mel Etitis blocked him, along with a sockpuppet of Butterrum's. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 23:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Tag deletion problem[edit]

Thanks for the intervention on Talk:Pallywood. Regarding the deleted tag, I can't restore it due to 3RR - could you please sort it out? -- ChrisO 01:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

unless it is in bad faith[edit]

unless it is in bad faith - and this is not bad faith. see POV pushing discussion

as for the rest of your argument, i believe that people who have some expertiese on the topic have shown why it is indeed notable - you can examine the article for starters, and i believe i've included some still missing information in my linked reply (i.e. "jenin, jenin" + pierre rehov, full length ducumentry, response). Jaakobou 03:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


the wikipedia without a face[edit]

well i dont know if i should trust you anymore after all you did suspect me of sockpuppeting and helped that user Klyptzm out and made up lame and fake excuses to get me blocked without proof of me being a sock puppeting or helping others many users have been blocked from wikipedia becuaser of the gta article and they trace to KLP he makes fuin of how i type man this should be taken care of if i owned wikipedia id stop the rage and battle started by that kid there is no justice in this place no more just corrupted and the bent all frauding therre way out of troble and geting people blocked i dont wanna list a complant because i know your just gonna tell Klp again and start this mess all over like u said you have a thick skin--Butterrum 14:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

yes i do wanna file a commplant and i looked at the edits i made on its page theres nothing wrong with him and see he blamed me for somthing witfch he hid he wrote this witch i retreved from your page Both Craxy and Butterrum have been getting in on the sockpuppeting craze; I don't have any concrete evidence but I'm sure it's them; check my talk page. Man, this is annoying.... what is that then huh you helped him --Butterrum 14:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

thats because he was harrasing me first always saying on a Sean mc Sean charater and junk or Craxy he blocked a kid because he said he was a sock puppet lots of people are being blocked because of him and i wanna end this YOU GOTTA HELP ME this is going on for tio long and what dose that haev to do with anything--Butterrum 17:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

ok but you gotta help me an other user lost there account and they were blamed for sock puppeting WITHOUT PROOF and now im being blamed i have to say yes thats me for everything to stay out of troble im paranoid here i dont know who to trust at all anymore the only people i trusted arer blocked they had proof on Klyptzm to but scien there blocked i cant get any proof besides ones that your gonna say is useless he broke the 3RR rule but no 1 did anything i did it before and i got blocked for it nahh i dont think this is a excelpida i think this is GRand Theft Auto Wikipedia--Butterrum 14:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

but why is Liberty City's Miguel, ptpGTA and GTAXI all got blocked and when i checked it said these words BLOCKED for SOCKPUPPETING then it said the suposovly owner Craxy i think this is becominhg stupid and sorry i didnt know whaqt 3RR was i thought it was short for reverting well ok ill stop till we finally find out what is what--Butterrum 15:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:List of gangs...[edit]

That's just the thing: it is resolved; Butterrum will never agree on something that isn't going his way. I've, along with other users, have told him why he's wrong, yet he still persists to add those incorrect edits to the article. You've told me to stop reverting the article until that dispute is resolve; crap, you might as well tell me to wait until forever, because that's exactly how long it's going to take. Go take a look at the talk page archives to see what I mean. I had to archive the page 2 times due to his unnecessary stubborness. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 21:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh heh, we'll see, man, we'll see.... ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 22:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


RE:DotA[edit]

It will be allowed to add dota.brainmarket.ru to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DotA in case if i will add all listed in article types of DotA maps to my download section? I can extend content of my site to cover all DotAs not only Allstars. Regards, Rrrichi.

North Buffalo[edit]

Please see the discussion on the Talk:North Buffalo, New York page regarding your change of the name.
T.C. 03:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, not sure if I followed your instructions correctly. I tagged North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York for speedy deletion, but it did not get blown away yet. Maybe I just need to be patient, but could you take a look to make sure that I did it right?

T.C. 02:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


Hi, North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York got turned down for speedy deletion. What should I do now?

T.C. 01:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to say, thanks for the help, expecially as I know you didn't completely agree with my idea here. I was thinking about creating articles for all of the different neighborhoods just so that all of the names would be defined already. If I just put a title into those articles do you think that they would just be deleted right away?
T.C. 03:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help desk help.[edit]

Now most of the alt codes work :) but I still cant get the smileys :(. Thanks again for your help,  Razorclaw • 20070419161452

Thanks for assist with DeVry article[edit]

Thank you for the assist with the DeVry article! I like the new layout and phrasing on the site -- I think you found the compromise that myself and the other major current editor of the page weren't able to find on our own. I'm happy to see other editors jump in and work on the page, whereas before it was being very much driven by one user's vision of the article. OtterZero 17:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)OtterZero

Thanks for fixing the logo. You're doing some great work on the DeVry article - keep it up! Vagary 22:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Ranjit Fernando[edit]

Good job on the BLP pruning. Looks like we got it right before it got under lock and key. :-D --Iamunknown 00:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

regarding the DeVry issues[edit]

Thanks for catching my unsigned warning notices on Codeplowed's talk page. I wasn't sure if those are intended to be signed or not, but I think you're right, it's better with a signature.

I also saw that you removed the latest rant that he added on the DeVry talk page. I know the Wikiguides permit removing un-civil content, but I wonder in this situation if it might be better to leave it in place and instead use strike-text tags and then add a comment about why it was struck.

The only reason I suggest that is I have a feeling this is going to be an administrator case pretty soon and it might be less confusing that way.

Just a suggestion - You're within your rights and the policies to choose either method.

Have a good day... --Parzival418 22:19, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Received & understood your message on my talk page. Do you want to let this go for a while and monitor the page as you have been, or are you considering WP:AIV or WP:RFC/U? I'm not directly involved in editing the article and just came to help from seeing the Wikiquette Alert, so I don't feel it's my place to start that kind of report. If you decide to proceed though, I would be willing to add third-party comments about what I observed. --Parzival418 22:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for informing me about the misplaced warning on my user page, I've moved it to the talk page and replied.
I notice there is a problem with your user page too. It seems it was tagged for speedy deletion and now it is redlinked, though your talk page and contribs are still here. That might be a technical glitch unrelated to the ongoing issues, but I thought you should know so you can check it out.
Meanwhile, I also saw your continuing discussions with Codeplowed and that he again removed all the warnings from his talk page. I'm not going to do anything further on this unless he harrasses me directly. But if you decide to proceed with a report and need support, please let me know.
Good luck... --Parzival418 23:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Got your note about remodeling your page. I noticed in your prior comment, you mentioned RfC. I've never done one of those myself, but I saw it done regarding someone else and as it turned out it was rejected. The main thing is to make sure you use the right one. Plain Wikipedia:Requests for comment is for articles and other stuff; for user issues you need Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct. Instructions are at Wikipedia:Requests for comment#Request comment on users. RfC/U page has detailed proceudres. You need to have at least two editors certifying the problem with that user, and showing examples of how they tried to resolve it directly first. I think you have several others who would certify, but it's important if you do that method to get it set up in advance so it doesn't go stale. The certifying entries need to be made within 48 hours or they drop the request.

I wonder for this situation if it might be better to use Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism or Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, because those are less formal. This is all just casual advice though, I don't know for sure what's best. Once an administrator is invovled, they might not see it the same way as you do, so that's something to consider as well. --Parzival418 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, seems like you know what you're doing with those procedures. Let me know if you need any help later. Have a good one. --Parzival418 23:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. Thanks for informing me of the COIN report. There are some comments there now you might want to read. I'm not able to keep going with this though, it's been too much work for me already. At first things seemed to improve but the multiple talk page reversions and edits of others' comments is a real mess. If that were an article I really cared about, I think I would try to find an individual administrator to ask for help rather than continuing to post procedures. I don't know, unless things are really obvious the procedures can take a lot of time - you have to show evidence, lists of diffs, concise explanations so they can review it fast. Maybe you can just ignore the disruptive stuff and as long as several editors are improving the article, so what if the talk page is messy? Sorry I couldn't help further. Good luck! --Parzival418 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

"And the personal attacks on myself are not so bad - I can handle it - I am more concerned about the others involved." - I agree with you on that, I feel the same way. As I said, I'm burned out on this one so I'm letting it go for now. But if you need someone to back you up on a report or something, let me know and I'll chime in. --Parzival418 03:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

New development, someone posted an RFCU. You may wish to view or comment at: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Codeplowed --Parzival418 Hello 22:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Warming[edit]

You already has complained about my posting, therefore, continue just work to improve Wikipedia content, I just tell you that at the end of the day DeVry Inc. will be something but a University, Controversy is part of any entry DeVry as you have learned and perhaps do not want to see it, has multiple systemic problems. "Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks, for instance, stating "Your statement is a personal attack..." is not itself a personal attack." However, you have cross the line, and not probably we need arbitration, it is fine for me, but you deserve this warnings, that previously were stipulated in DeVry:Talk page in very civil manner, Template:Unsigned -->

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Please do not use talk pages such as Talk:DeVry University for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to the article. They are not to be used as a forum or chat room. See here for more information. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned

vandalism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by --Veritas Longa 22:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

last warning[edit]

Stop hand nuvola.svg

This is your last warning. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussions you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

User:NE2[edit]

You don't understand. I have been having a problem with this user and as much as I try to have good faith for him, nothing I do works. He has problems with other users too, as seen on his talk page and his archives. I feel like giving upon him, but I won't. He needs to learn that if e continues, he'll get blocked for trolling, and one user gone doesn't make no difference. —Imdanumber1 (talk · contribs) 23:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Why put a 1px + and "Stop hand" image[edit]

If you read the content of this div, you will see that I used this means (normal text, talk) for more than one month, which lead to endless talk. Encouraging to stop revert and to start a WP:RfC mediation, and encouraging to work on user:Yug/Stroke order, all was declined. Then, in impasse, the image, and the div were really need, but I still encouraged a RfC. EB open a Administrator/Incident.
I'm admin on Wiki-fr and Commons, I don't like endless talk and big opposition, but I have no other way when EB came and revert (!!! exactly what I think is abusive) my warning div, which highlight EB previous mistakes.
Since, this 1px line's edition war has become the primary point of contention because it's the only think he have to get me blocked, and "win". This will de facto means he was right on all the line (not read the talk page but hasty reverts, ask my blockage). This is, I think, what he want to show now : that he didn't any mistake. --Yug (talk) 12:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Other thing more fun, I look for contributers who want help me and my English, on Stroke order/Temp. If you are interesting, please notice me. Yug (talk) 13:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Self-compassion[edit]

There may be copyvio problems with this article. See my comment at Wikipedia:Help desk#Article rename? before spending a lot of time on it. PrimeHunter 22:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Here a two sentences with a Google hit:[1] and [2]. Many of the references are probably not searchable with Google. I don't know how well you know the subjcet (I know nothing), but a creation like this with six self-references and own website might also have WP:NPOV problems. PrimeHunter 22:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
If some of the article is ok, then maybe a rewrite could solve copyvio and npov problems. I don't know the field. You could ask people at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology to take a look. PrimeHunter 23:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


Hello[edit]

) hey there :P

Removing log entries of edits to user page[edit]

Woaw, long title. Anyway, is it possible to remove a couple of entries in the log of edits of my userpage? thanks. Stormtalon 09:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC) 11:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

See Oversight. THF 11:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Note: That doesn't exactly remove the entries. It simply hides them (from non-oversights). x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.Stormtalon 06:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Image problem?[edit]

hi, thanks for answering my question...but i still have some problems about it. can you please take a look here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_contributors%27_help_page#Image_problem

Thanks, and hey! are you a chinese? 你看得懂中文字嗎? 如果是就好極了:-)

Winniee852 07:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey hi!! i've made my reply here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_contributors%27_help_page#Image_problem

thank you for your kindness! you know what, you're just like my cousins, they moved to england where they were born, and i can hardly talk with them becuase my english sucks!=D Thanks again!

Winniee852 12:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Bug Fixing[edit]

Hiya, thanks for the heads up - it might be useful to put in the edit summary that you are bug fixing though; an edit summary "test" on a regularly vandalised article will attract RC patrollers who will revert on sight. Cheers! Pedro |  Chat  07:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

It'd be more helpful if I could get some input on this though. I've already put it up once, but as usual it just faded into the archive.--Crossmr 15:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC) I'm not sure what was wrong with the link and how you checked his block log, but according to: [3]. He has 8 blocks for uncivil behaviour.--Crossmr 14:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

MJis4Freaks[edit]

No that warning was for the first time he vandalised my page, Im complaining now about the second occurance as well as him comments on the michael jackson talk page, Let me no. Realist2 10:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh great, its just wierd there isn`t a blocked message on his user page, how are less experienced users like myself ment to no any action has been taken? Realist2 10:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers, thats for messaging him, it does seem odd there is no banned sign put up, I always ashumed that was the norm, thanx again, at least he`s blocked.Realist2 11:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Barnstar of Diligence.png The Barnstar of Diligence
For your work with WP:HELPDESK. Good work! --Sharkface217 09:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

That "edit war" (undeclared conflict?) on AN/I[edit]

Great job and thanks for stepping in and handling that. You rawk. - Philippe | Talk 04:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

level 3 headers[edit]

No problem, when I first restored the headers I hadn't yet looked at the edit history to see why they were changed. Once I checked the page history I realized that I had caused confusion when the next person posted their question with a level 3 header also. --69.118.235.97 17:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Digimon[edit]

I brought this up before (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Digimon#Fair use + lists) but didn't get much of an idea.

That is a direct quote from you, pending our current position at the project. I find that you yourself are partially to blame, I actually replied to the comment you posted. Yet you never replied back with a rebuttel, so there was not much we could do at the time. I'm not trying to be rude, but I believe the way this has gone and been done has been really unfair. Trainra 12:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless, it is done. Fair or not you/we technically need to figure out what to make of the situation rather then try to find "blame". Forgive me if I misunderstood the point of that paragraph though. ODK 00:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Lists Reply[edit]

If you want to ramble on about Digimon Lists, talk to me about the future of them. The past is done and whether you did involve yourself or not is a Moot point. Oy, just give it a rest already. ODK 17:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

This was apparent over a week ago, so why does it really matter now of all times? ODK 13:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Just curious[edit]

When you added new section by posting at Sambure's talkpage: here. Why did my post get replaced? Dekisugi (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I suspected that so. Don't worry, I reposted again. Dekisugi (talk) 15:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

latex[edit]

[4] is what I get. It doesn't seem to want to go to the right... Randomblue (talk) 20:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

The problem with uploading the latex picture is that the background color of the box is not the same as the white background. Randomblue (talk) 20:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Reference tags[edit]

Hi! Just let you know I first added the Reference correctly but for for some reason my first edit wasn't registered. Probably my fault but anyway thanks for the reminder - LinczoneTalk/Watch 16:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Why I wanted help[edit]

Click on the link to my talk page and you will see.Sometimes somethings (talk) 04:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for taking the time to sort out the time line. Should have assumed good faith all along. Sorry for wasting so much board. --soulscanner (talk) 01:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

for your help in fixing the broken link in a reference note...

it is much appreciated!

jb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Projectx (talkcontribs) 02:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Youth Offending Team Glossary[edit]

I think Deb lost her rag with me, despite strenuous attempts to satisfy an inexplicable desire to wipe me out.

I am astonished at this conduct - although old enough to know that I shoudn't be.--SJB (talk) 22:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Youth Offending Team Glossary[edit]

Deletion Review for Youth Offending Team Glossary[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Youth Offending Team Glossary. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. SJB (talk) 23:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for checking the issue with the VBS:Malware-gen. Much appreciated.--Hu12 (talk) 00:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Committed identities[edit]

Thanks for the info. That helps. Richiar (talk) 06:36, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Weird edits by Akradecki[edit]

About the weird edits that Edibility was reporting, it's just two vanity bios that got userfied in a non-standard way. No harm done. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for replying[edit]

Hi there. Thanks for trying to answer my question and i sent a message to Henrik who created the wiki hits page and he told me the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Henrik#Most_visited_User_page I wasn't at all surprised to see the Clown there. Just one other thing i hope you can help me with. Do you have any idea what the most popular picture on wikipedia is, as in the most number of users who have it on their page. Say for example look at the users for this pic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:010105_fireworks2.jpg Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2[edit]

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 15:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your help with my signature. I had already found a way to shorten it and it looks identical to yours, but yours looks much less messy. I think I'll use it. Thanks for the help!  Moo  Chat  00:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Cats[edit]

Thanks! I just didn't have my brain in gear on that one! —SlamDiego←T 15:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

deathcamps.org[edit]

Thanks for your response. I ask because I've written what would be a start class article on a rather notable Nazi, and accordingly I planned to use these references (among others) for benign, constructive purposes. Do you have any suggestions what I can do? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't quite disappointed, it feels like all my efforts have amounted to nothing. Cheers. WilliamH (talk) 10:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Mmmm, I did stumble across that and some of those discussions. I'll try the whitelist option. Thanks for articulating it to me, it's made it a lot easier. Thanks for your help once again. WilliamH (talk) 13:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Seems like the Holocaust Research Project is not a reliable source, and the deathcamps/death-camps content/copyright dispute is still continuing, so I'll avoid any Wikidrama and remove any references to them as Wikipedia is obviously not the place for content disputes. Cheers. WilliamH (talk) 14:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested that this is the article that came from the fruits of my labour and your help. I've put forward a hook from it to DYK, so thanks once again. WilliamH (talk) 09:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your help about my question about namespace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guitarplayer001 (talkcontribs) 21:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Yeah, I realized that after I'd posted. I've since blanked, will post a speedy delete request. Best, umrguy42 23:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

PS - extra thanks for the cross-post. (They're right, you know... no good deed ever goes unpunished ;D). umrguy42 23:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Submisve and Aggressive[edit]

I need the term fro Submissive and Aggressive they mean the same but in different ways, explain —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.196.115 (talk) 03:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

I'm sorry that our first interaction has to be under these circumstances, I truly am. However, I wanted you to know that I am quite aware of the civility and no personal attack policies at Wikipedia, and I truly follow them to the best of my abilities. In this particular case, I was not uncivil, and made no personal attack. Bstone was being a jerk towards me, I don't know if Bstone is a jerk, I hope not, but he/she was acting like one, and made me feel quite unwanted and uncomfortable. It's not a good feeling to have.

Those comments weren't about the project, they were about Bstone. As I tried to explain to Bstone twice, but Bstone mocked me and belittled me for my efforts. It really didn't feel good to be treated like that, especially considering I went out of my way to try to help Bstone. Then to have Bstone lodge a complaint about me, bringing up previous faulty blocks that Bstone obviously didn't take the time to investigate...well... that just sucks. I hope you see where I am coming from, and please be assured that I am quite supportive and quite a follower of Civility, and I feel that I was attacked and treated poorly for no reason. I've been calm throughout, believe me, there wasn't a need for you to tell me to calm down, let alone twice. ;) For me to be reprimanded for being treated poorly just isn't right nor fair. Beam 03:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


Well then, you sure are helpful. :D Beam 03:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, all I can say is that Beam's comments above clearly demonstrate a lack of Assuming Good Faith, Civility and No Personal Attacks. Sorry, but I'll just have to ignore him and, hopefully, he will do the same for me. Bstone (talk) 04:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
The fellow has called me a jerk, in clear violation of WP:CIVIL, WP:NPA and believes I am acting in bad faith to him. I think he needs to apologize to me, tho I will be fine if he just leaves me alone. Sans that, he may need to be blocked or take a wikibreak for violation of these three policies. Bstone (talk) 04:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for mediation, X42. It is welcome and appreciated. In reality, this user quite simply misunderstood and, then, failed to assume good faith. I was not dismissing him, but rather asking him (in a very civil, kind way) to refer all discussion about the proposal to the project talk page. At that location I would be happy to engage him in discussion. Since he didn't get his way, and took it emotionally, he then violated WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF. Frankly, I am happy to ignore him and go on. Perhaps he might agree to the same. I am, however, unwilling to entertain more of his drama for this evening as it is indeed time to retire. Good night, sir. Bstone (talk) 05:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I hate it when I goto someone's talk page and see shit talked against me. Just for the record, I didn't call him a jerk, he was just acting like one. And I didn't misunderstand him (for the 10th time) I completely understood him. And I didn't violate any of those policies. But he is right that your mediation was pretty nifty. Beam 23:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Your Box Thingy at the Top of your Talk Page[edit]

Can I steal it? Beam 23:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, and I fixed your concern. Beam 17:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I just looked at the code and I don't even know how to steal it :( Beam 18:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Fasach Nua[edit]

I am quite ignorant about Wikipedia:Requests for comment. What is the recommended approach for starting a new request for comment ?

Should I just blank the existing page ? That doesn't seem appropriate.

Any advice/help welcome.

Aaron carass (talk) 14:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll give that a try.
Aaron carass (talk) 18:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your comments on the RFC. It is insightful to see how others view this issue. I am on the fence about the edits in question; I do, however, believe that the manner in which the edits was done was really disruptive and counter productive from a time and energy point of view. Aaron carass (talk) 00:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


I haven't endorsed your comments as I cannot endorse "There is no excuse for being disruptive", I think a certain ammount of disruption was needed to get this issue on the agenda. I did my best to keep this on the low end of disruption, enough to stimulate the issue, without causinng too much hastle. I had raised the issue in a polite manor several times in WP:FOOTY and it was repeatidly ignored. I think your summary is 99% correct Fasach Nua (talk) 12:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


On another note, this seems to be doing some good, [6], [7] and there seems to be an ongoing sensible discussion at WP:FOOTY. You are right abuot my approach that "...people jump on this and use it against him/her", so I am not contributing to thread at WP:FOOTY, as it will be too much of a distraction to some people and they will focus on attacking me, rather than dealing with the real underlying issue. Fasach Nua (talk) 13:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Translated page template[edit]

I had a loooong discussion about this with PrimeHunter here, and in the end I concluded that I will continue placing the Translated Page message on the Article page, not the Talk page. But thanks for your concern.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 02:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I am a reader too, and I know that I would appreciate it if people put a message on an article page stating that I am reading a translation instead of a unique text in a particular language. Your question, "How does this help the reader", could just as well be asked of a book whose title page says, The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco, transl. by William Weaver. According to your logic, the name of the author does not belong there. Most readers of Eco, however, would disagree.
For a while, the message also served another purpose for me, namely of covering my rear. Until today, I had not had the time to verify each and every statement in the German article. Now I have, and I am comfortable that the information is accurate. But in the future, I will use the Template again for that purpose.
You wrote,

"If someone wishes to see the editors who contributed to the article, there's a history button - we do not need to have templates which tell users that such a button exists on the articles themselves."

Irrelevant, it's not about the editors of de:Bethmann family, but to alert readers to the existence of Bethmann (Familie).
You wrote,

Readers should not need to know where the article has come from.

Why not let the market decide? Leave the box on the article for a year, and see what responses it gets. Respectfully,--Goodmorningworld (talk) 17:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for alerting me to the Translation/Ref template. That seems like a good template to transition to. As of now, however, the article is not quite there yet.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 20:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

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In April 2008 you posted to my talk page, formally welcoming me to Wikipedia, and said in part, "If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question."  Smugly, I thought I wouldn't be making any demands on those overworked volunteers, since I'd already been using markup on Wikia for years.  But actually I do have a question.

Last week, I poked my head out from under my safe little gnoming force field for the very first time, and was just in time to see this start up. [8] [9] [10]  My question, therefore: am I likely to find something like that every time I examine an article closely?  Are Wikipedia editors now such a large and varied population, and is the spotlight of a top-10 google ranking so dazzling, that reasoned discussion must always be conducted against a backdrop of real estate speculation?    Xeriphas1994 (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)  (If you reply, please do so here to keep the thread in one piece, thanks.)

I have indeed read that policy page, and I might even have heard about such principles before that, but they appear to address disputes only indirectly.  It says that all edits should be viewed as attempts to improve the encyclopedia.  It does not say anything about how often the attempts succeed.  Some editors feel that the encyclopedia would be improved with a picture of their penis on the main page.  Other editors are more like User:Katefan0 (before my time, but I've read about her).  In between is an unbroken continuum.
In the specific case I linked above, even before the checkuser result, disinterested observers (most of them admins, I believe) seemed to emerge from the woodwork to rationally discuss what was happening.  Quite frankly I am having difficulty reconciling that with the length of the list you put on my talk page.  Did I just have beginner's luck?    Xeriphas1994 (talk) 17:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Apologies if my explanation was unclear.  I was merely saying that the number of articles on Wikipedia appears to be growing faster than the number of editors who edit a lot.  It seems reasonable to assume that the latter can't completely keep track of the former.  Therefore, if I try to improve an article, and I don't deliberately pick one with a lot of traffic due to current real-world events, I am likely to be entering a backwoods area.  Problems (the list you made on my talk page) are everywhere, due to the high profile of Wikipedia as a whole, but constructive contributors cannot be, so I always edit at my own risk.  Is that a logical conclusion?    Xeriphas1994 (talk) 21:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for being so patient with me.  I promise, my next couple of edits will be about content.  I guess I just needed to know whether my common sense matched somebody's years of experience, in order to make an informed decision about how addicted to get.  :>   Best of luck with whatever you're working on here.    Xeriphas1994 (talk) 16:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

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Response to ZuluPapa's outing complaint[edit]

"Pete" is not identifying information, and the other user states that, "It won't be difficult to discover my identity and I've no interest in hiding it."

This is just another attempt by ZuluPapa to use every wiki-legal and procedural means to prevent me from working on the Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo article, rather than focusing on the content. We've been through this several times. Now, ZuluPapa attempted an outing of me a few months back: ZuluPapa's attempt at outing. It didn't bother me much because it's not me. But should I have reported it? Longchenpa (talk) 20:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hi there, I'm from the English Wikipedia and was curious about this edit: [11]. Is this the actual mediation page on the French Wikipedia, or does it simply need its interwiki links removed? So as not to confuse the bot.

Pardon me for speaking in English, because my French isn't great. x42bn6 discuter déchets 30 mars 2009 à 18:02 (CEST)

I attempted to create a Mediation Committee on the french Wikipedia, but many Wikipedians thought it was not a good idea. So these pages were moved in my user namepace, and I forgot to remove the interwikis. It should be fixed now. Thanks ! :-) Dodoïste (talk) 16:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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