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User:Muvendar reported by User:Joshua Jonathan (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Page: Naga people (Lanka) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Muvendar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [1]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [2]
  2. [3]
  3. [4]
  4. [5]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: diff diff diff diff.

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff


  • Result: User:Muvendar is blocked one month. He has been adding unsourced and badly sourced content to articles on South Asian topics. He has trouble using talk pages. He barely uses his own talk page except to delete warnings by others. He is possibly the same person as (talk · contribs), who makes the same edits to some of the same articles. The IP is now blocked three months. During the block, if Muvendar will make clear he will follow policy in the future, and get consensus for adding any material that is not 100% sourced, the block might be lifted. EdJohnston (talk) 17:11, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Lesbianadvocate reported by User:EllenMcGill (Result: Moved to WP:COIN)[edit]

/* Original title: Edit-warring over plagiarised material */

Moved to WP:COIN.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Hi all, I’m having a lot of trouble with a user named LesbianAdvocate on American Council for Capital Formation. When I mentioned my issue at the TeaHouse a few days ago, they said to stop reverting her and come here if things didn’t calm down.

The biggest issue is that LA has reverted my changes to the article repeatedly, generally without any discussion. (see article history: [6]) Sometimes she won’t even post edit summaries to say why she’s reverting me. I’ve tried to reach out to her a number of times on the article’s talk page, but she’s consistently refused to engage about any of the content. (Her single post was to say that if I kept editing, she would block me for disruption.) She hasn't broken the three-revert rule, but how does this work if we can’t talk to each other? Do we just keep reverting until one of us gives up?

The material she wants to add is really problematic:

1) Plagiarizing: Just randomly clicking on edits in her history, LA appears to do most of her editing by just cutting-and-pasting material from other sources; sometimes she changes a couple of words, sometimes she doesn’t. I attempted to discuss this issue with her on the talk page, but she re-added the material without discussion. [7]

Edits for comparison:

  • “Ergen studied finance at the University of Tennessee, became a CPA, and worked for Frito-Lay before striking out on his own.“ [8] taken word for word from [9]
  • The “History” section of the article we’re arguing over on the ACCF page (compare LA to her source--see pages 72-73; sorry Google Books won’t let me cut and paste it here). Even at a glance it’s clear that Blumenthal’s paragraphs were just copied in and slightly rewritten, sometimes with long phrases still in his exact words.
  • The incredible amount she copied out of this single Bloomberg article... almost every quotation and a lot of other sentences and phrases as well. [10]
  • LA: Soon after the call, Business Insider blared the headline, "Dish CEO says customers don't care about AMC because they live on 'farms and ranches.'" [11] Source: “Not long after the earnings call, Business Insider blared the headline, "Dish CEO says customers don't care about AMC because they live on 'farms and ranches.'"” [12]

I saw these in just a few minutes of searching, so unless this is some crazy fluke, I’d be surprised if the problem doesn’t run deeper than these few examples.

2) Posting unsourced information: LA has attempted over and over again to insert unsourced negative information about the group in question, even after I and others pointed out that it was unsourced. [13] [14] She is continuing to restore unsourced information to the article even after being reprimanded by a member of the BLP board on her talk page. [15]

3) Hit-job writing: So far as I can tell from her editing history, LA recently spent a month doing nothing but adding every negative story and minor controversy she could dredge up about a politician named Kyle McCarter (e.g. [16], [17]; then three months ago, she switched her focus to adding every negative story she could find about the Dish Network and its CEO; then a month ago, she started in on the ACCF with the same tactic. Some bits in the ACCF article she appears to literally just be fabricating, like this: [18]. Others are incidents involving individual executives from before they had even joined the ACCF, or later incidents in the life of Charls Walker, the group’s founder, that are unrelated to the Council. (Tellingly, she didn’t bother to add her material to Walker’s own article—just the ACCF.) She keeps trying to pass Democratic activist Sidney Blumenthal off as the sole reliable source about the ACCF’s history, while deleting even such basic information as the group’s self-description. I know I’m supposed to assume good faith, but I would be very surprised if she’s not being paid by someone to write these hit pieces. (I’m also inviting User:1990'sguy of this discussion, if that's all right; it looks like he had the same kind of run-ins with LA at Kyle McCarter as I have at the ACCF.)

Even if nothing can be done about LA herself, is it possible for someone else just to come look at the article and help bring it to neutrality? (Ditto for Kyle McCarter and the Dish Network?) I’m doing my best, but I'm sure my edits aren’t perfect for neutrality, either, and I think a fresh pair of eyes would do the article a lot of good. Any advice would be very welcome. Thanks. -- EllenMcGill (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Good faith query According to Twinkle, LA hasn't made any reverts (in the strictest use of the word) since yesterday; and on top of that, do copyvio questions get ajudged here? Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 17:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, I apologize if I misunderstood the policy (and what board I should be at--so many boards!). LA reverted my edits for several days in a row last week without discussion, and then was back at it yesterday, but it's true she never reverts me more than once a day (this is actually the first time I've been on more than once in a day). At the Teahouse, they told me that this behavior was edit-warring and I could report it here. In this case, she hasn't reverted me since yesterday because I haven't made any changes to the article since yesterday.
I don't mind continuing to sign on each day for a while to keep removing her unsourced material, but how do situations like this usually resolve? Do she and I just continue reverting each other once a day until one of us gets exhausted? What should I do about the copyright issue?
Since it looks like no action is forthcoming here, I've reverted to the version without unsourced info, copyright violations, etc. in the meantime. Thanks, Ellen -- EllenMcGill (talk) 18:16, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
EllenMcGill. Sometimes takes a while for things to happen here (staffing problems, I understand); you (and the Tea House of course) are right- there's no necessity to actually reach 3 reverts- just a demonstratable intention to dit-war ('slow-burning,' as they say). As for any copyright violations- Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 18:55, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Though the copyvios are a concern, it would be helpful if User:EllenMcGill could give some background for her own interest in American Council for Capital Formation, since she only created her Wikipedia account on 26 March. Lesbianadvocate and EllenMcGill are both interested in American politics., though LA has been here since March 2010. She has 952 edits and has never been blocked. She edits intermittently so may not respond here before the report is closed. Lesbianadvocate and Ellen are having an intense disagreement at Talk:American Council for Capital Formation#Plagiarism of Blumenthal?. If there isn't time to get a response from Lesbianadvocate, full protection of the article might be considered. EdJohnston (talk) 19:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks EllenMcGill for inviting me to this discussion. I had a very annoying encounter with LesbianAdvocate a few month ago while editing the article Kyle McCarter. At the time, McCarter was an active candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives, running against incumbent John Shimkus. LA added a lot of information on McCarter's article that violated WP:NPOV, WP:COATRACK, and WP:UNDUE, while at the same time removing potentially harmful material from Shimkus's article. Due to my experience with this editor, I am suspicious that (even though I cannot confirm it) LA might have some conflict of interest issues as well. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:47, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
There seems to be some agreement that the issues are broader than edit warring here. Can I suggest this be taken to WP:AN/I? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:55, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Agree with Cordless Larry: and, in fact, wasn't this actually brought here (to AN3) from another board in the first place...? Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 21:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Do you mean Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive238#Sources required?, Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi? Cordless Larry (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for that heads up Cordless Larry; but- no- somewhere today I thought...? Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 21:20, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
That's as much as I know - EllenMcGill raised this issue on my talk page after I previously responded to a question she asked at the Teahouse. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ed, I became interested in this page because I blog in a small way about politics, and the ACCF has been in the Midwest news a bit because of its role in a fight over ethanol. When I looked up the group’s Wikipedia article in writing a post of my own, it seemed clearly biased, so I thought I’d try to work with the authors to give it some balance. I have no advertising agenda here and I’d be very glad if a neutral, more experienced Wikipedia author would come along to take over the article for me. (I’ve been begging for outside help at several Wikipedia forums to do just that.) I'm enjoying Wikipedia so far, but I'd love to move on to something less contentious.

I hope you’ll forgive my playing Nancy Drew, but Googling LesbianAdvocate’s articles, it’s very easy to figure out that she IS working for someone, starting from 1990sguy’s suggestion about Shimkus.

  • This year, Shimkus employed a firm called FP1 strategies to “build his digital presence”. [19] At around the same time, LA suddenly got interested in posting positive information about him, and negative info about his challenger.
  • Also in 2012, FP1 strategies handled public relations for Rodney L. Davis [20]. At the same time, LA suddenly got interested in posting to the page of his challenger, David M. Gill. (which is now merged into another article.)
  • One of FP1’s long-term clients is Fox Entertainment.[21] LA recently spent two months intensely interested in Fox Broadcasting Co. v. Dish Network, LLC, including posting reams of negative information about Dish Network and its CEO.
  • FP1’s Vice President, Ryan Williams, blasted ACCF’s ethanol position on Twitter the exact same day LA created her article attacking the group, using the exact same language. (“$1.6 million from ExxonMobil alone” [22])

In short, all of LA’s major article projects for the past four years seem to be FP1 clients or their opponents, taken on exactly when FP1 takes on the clients. It would be mind-boggling if this was coincidence, right? Can any action be taken?

Per your suggestions here, I guess I’ll take this to the other admin noticeboard. It does seem to go way beyond edit-warring. I really appreciate everybody who's taken the time to take a look. Thanks, Ellen -- EllenMcGill (talk) 14:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I was just turned away at the other administrator noticeboard also. I'm now trying WP:COI/N. EllenMcGill (talk) 15:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

User:GroGaBa reported by User:Minorities observer (Result: Both warned)[edit]

Page: Samandağ (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: GroGaBa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [23]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [24]
  2. [25]
  3. [26]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [27]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: no attempt as User:GroGaBa doesn't seem to be on wikipedia to "contribute" but to delete elements he politically disapproves and only intervenes on the same paragraph (already a few years ago, by the way)


Minorities observer (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

This guy insists on adding an obscure political figure from Belgium that has no involvement whatsoever in Samandağ's political or social life, in the section "Local Politics" (emphasis mine), just because of his family background. On top of that, he blindly reverts my edits by tagging them as vandalism. I can hardly find a decent source about this person in English, let alone a source that makes him noteworthy in Samandağ. And even if we were to mention him it wouldn't be in the section "Local Politics", or any other section of the current version, like "History" or "Geography", unless there was a source connecting him with these specific topics, i think i'm talking common sense. I would be happy to discuss with Minorities observer about this as long as he is advised to quit his incivility and show good faith. A technical comment: diff [28] shows the revert of a six-months old edit by Minorities observer, i'm not sure how this counts in the 3RR rule implementation as it wasn't a revert of a "fresh" edit, that's not my decision, just noting. GroGaBa (talk) 00:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

As I don't consider that person as a legitimate user (intervenes under this "identity" on only one article since 2011, once every 2/3 years) nor as a bona fide one (see the dates of his/her contributions, including a personal attack linked to the deleted sentence in the Samandağ article), I won't engage in any discussion with him/her. --Minorities observer (talk) 11:21, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

You only need to see Minorities observer's talk page to understand he treats more established users that don't agree with him the same way as me. I'm not going to invest time answering these personal accusations unless i'm asked by an admin for my input. GroGaBa (talk) 12:01, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment Having now examined both sides of the dispute- which ultimately is a content dispute anyway- I should point out that the reporter's behaviour here is itself less than prime, which what can only be described as a default position towards not assuming good faith. His edit summaries repeatedly accuse the previous editor of vandalism and of being politically motivated, and even above he feels entitled to not consider another editor 'legitimate.' Indeed, it could be argued that his restoration of this material this February- after years' absence- acted against the by-then established consensus of the community, and was therefore directly responsible for this current situation. Cheers, Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 14:40, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
  • There never was any "established consensus of the community", there are a lot of articles which are not followed by many users, or by none still active, where the deletion of a paragraph without justification on the talk page or more radical changes can remained totally unnoticed for years. I maintain that the deletion was politically motivated, the description of Bahar Kimyongür as "an obscure political figure from Belgium" about whom one "can hardly find a decent source (...) in English" is in itself a proof of blatant lies (see articles in English versions of Turkish newspapers or agencies, also in a book here, here, here or here). The personal attack linked to the deleted sentence in the Samandağ article (as User:Pylambert was its author) is another proof that (s)he knows very well who is Bahar Kimyongür and that the problem is only any mention at all of this (more Turkish and Nusayri than Belgian) highly controversial political activist on the English version of Wikipedia whereas there's a whole article about him on the French Wikipedia. The sentence about Kimyongür was wrongly placed in the "local politics" section, it has its place on a section "notable people from Samandağ", even if there is probably no other internationally known, in Turkey and abroad. --Minorities observer (talk) 07:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Uh, so now he is discussing my arguments, albeit with another user as proxy. Only this isn't the place to solve this. Some brief points: 1) with " The sentence about Kimyongür was wrongly placed in the "local politics" section" Minority observer essentially cancels the meaning of his actions up to this post. 2)I would have created myself the "Notable people from Samandağ" section instead of removing the mention as a whole if i believed it was due weight to mention the guy in the article, as it would be the only rational way to include a mention of him in Samandağ, i don't believe the person merits such a mention, but i would only oppose it in the talk page as this is a more subtle matter of article quality, requiring more feedback. 3) Again, i remain focused on the content issue and not the attempts to discredit me, unless an admin requires from me to answer.GroGaBa (talk) 09:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Zjec reported by User: (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Page: Daredevil (Marvel Comics) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Zjec (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [29]
  2. [30]
  3. [31]
  4. [32]
  5. [33]
  6. [34]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]


User has been edit-warring with User:Tenebrae and User:NukeofEarl since March to keep a relatively minor character listed in the lead section. (talk) 11:39, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Nonsense. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 12:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Hardly nonsense. User:Zjec edit-warred just today, here, with the latest of his snarky, inappropriate edit-summaries and in defiance of WP:BRD. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:04, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Well yeah. Since that particular diff is already on the reporting list, it can hardly be said to augment any edit war. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 13:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – 24 hours for long-term edit warring. About six reverts of the same piece of information since March 9, undone by several different people. No attempt to use the talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 20:49, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User:MaverickLittle reported by User:Winkelvi (Result: No action)[edit]

Ted Cruz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
MaverickLittle (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 09:44, 7 April 2016 (UTC) "/* Primary results */ Removed the table again. There is an ongoing discussion on the talk page concerning this section. So far there is no support for the table. Please discuss on talk page."
  2. 22:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC) "RadarOnLine is not a reliable source."
  3. 18:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC) "Reverting the article back to the consensus version until a new consensus can be established. Let's discuss how to move forward. The consensus version will remain until new consensus reached."
  4. 18:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 713944510 by Muboshgu (talk)Don't you think that amount of deletion deserves some kind of discussion? Yes, it does. Please go to the talk page with your concerns first."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
  1. 18:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC) "/* Presidential primary results */ resp"
  2. 18:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC) "/* Presidential primary results */ resp regarding an obvious misconception of what edit warring and brd actually are"

User is not only continuing to engage in edit warring behavior following discussion regarding same on talk page, but has violated the discretionary sanctions rule at this article by doing so. -- WV 09:58, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

I think that, in addition to being a tendetious contributor, whose edits are likely to trigger edit warring, there is an underlying issue of competence here. I am concerned that MaverickLittle doesn't know how to discuss their edits in a civil, collegial manner. I am concerned that certain phrases they have used in their edit summaries suggest a fundamental misunderstanding of key policies.

  1. I weighed in with some small good faith edits, at Ted Cruz: [35], [36]. MaverickLittle reverted both good faith edits, just a few minutes later, and then proved unable to explain themselves, or to respond following the guidelines and traditions as to how to participate in discussions. Even if their edit summary was a valid reason for an excision, it would only have applied to my second edit, not my first.
  2. This comment shows MaverickLittle does not know how to read a diff. I'd provided a diff, and, in their comment it they admonish me for not cutting and pasting the passage they thought was problematic into the discussion itself.
  3. I left a note on User talk:MaverickLittle, requesting they consult the guidelines on how to participate in discussions -- which they erased, without acknowledgment, suggesting to me that they are uninterested in learning how to explain themselves in a policy compliant manner.

Some contributor's participation in discussions is unresponsive, or appears uncivil, or childish, for reasons that are relatively unembarrassing. Some participants who leave childish responses are actual precocious children; some are people who seem rude because they are still learning English, as a second language; some are intelligent people who have dyslexia, or another learning disability, that interferes with their ability to communicate clearly. ESL people, precocious children, and those with dyslexia, should all be congratulated for trying to make useful contributions to the wikipedia. But, until they can respond to questions, and explain themself clearly, they should be discouraged from making edits so complicated they require discussion, require explanation.

With regard to failing to understand key policies -- this edit's edit summary says: "we don't speculate". WP:NOR bars wikipedia contributors from placing their own personal speculation into articles. Policy does not bar including neutrally written, properly attributed, coverage of speculation from reliable, verifiable sources. I find it alarming that MaverickLittle doesn't seem to understand this point. Geo Swan (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, he does seem to have a consistently weird notion regarding policy. There is also consistent and strong tendency toward WP:IDHT when approached about their poor behavior and communication choices as well as WP:IDLI in regard to edits made by others at articles he "favors". I have attempted to approach him countless times since late last summer regarding a variety of things. I am told by him repeatedly that because I am not an administrator I have no voice in his world. Because of his penchant for removing everything placed on his talk page, I have now taken to communicating with him on talk pages that are not in his userspace so there is a visible and easily accessible record. -- WV 17:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Note Because this appears to be not just a 3RR vio but a discretionary sanctions vio, I'm pinging Bishonen who seems to have a good amount of experience in the area of evaluating and applying DS policy when appropriate. -- WV 14:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Result: No action. It appears that the dispute on the Ted Cruz article is not continuing. It is now more than 48 hours since MaverickLittle last edited the article. On April 6 a lot of people were making large reverts, and it's hardly worthwhile to try sorting that out now. EdJohnston (talk) 22:46, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User: reported by User:A guy saved by Jesus (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Bee Gees (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 02:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714165932 by A guy saved by Jesus (talk)"
  2. 01:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714165617 by A guy saved by Jesus (talk)"
  3. 01:31, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Who cares about the lines? There is no reason for not adding nationality."
  4. 01:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714067304 by RyanTQuinn (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 01:33, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Bee Gees. (TW)"
  2. 01:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "/* April 2016 */ Last warning"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


A previous discussion on this article's talk page led to a consensus that the band's nationality should not be included in the first paragraph. This IP editor disagrees, but they have resorted to edit warring about it instead of trying to reach a new consensus on the talk page, despite my attempts at reasoning with them. A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 02:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Result: Blocked 1 month. Last block was for two weeks. Nationalist edit warring. EdJohnston (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User:NHK1212 reported by User:Rajmaan (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Page: Koreans in China (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: NHK1212 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [37]

Diffs of the user's reverts:


  1. Earlier he used the account Hkboy99 to edit the article but now he has apparently switched to NHK1212 to revert since Hkboy99 was warned and add the exact same changes to the article. He is also probably 2606:6000:6214:6E00:C136:7D:4618:D0E6

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [38]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Cluebot and an ip address tried to warn him on his talk page but he refuses to listen. Lathdrinor dealt with his ip address 2606:6000:6214:6E00:C136:7D:4618:D0E6 before


  • The history of the article shows that he's obviously guilty of edit warring. He has kept on reverting although he was warned once. I think he needs to be taken care of by admins. Mhhossein (talk) 06:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
And he just started edit warring again. He is trying to game the 3RR and he clearly violated it already yesterday. The article needs semi-protection.Rajmaan (talk) 02:02, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Blocked for 36 hours for disruptive editing. Article now protected.  Philg88 talk 05:43, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Wee Curry Monster reported by User:Nerêo (Result: No action)[edit]

Page: Apostolic Prefecture of the Falkland Islands (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Wee Curry Monster (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [39]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [40]
  2. [41]
  3. [42]
  4. [43]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [44]

Comments: Excuse my poor English is not my native language. The user intends to argue that by way of the facts that the territory of the Apostolic Prefecture of the Falkland Islands further comprises the South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. He refuses to provide sources to support their opinion. The webmaster of the site that could only be found on the Internet that supported that view, modified it after I requested him to give me information. I have extensively documented that no primary or secondary sources that support it, and therefore retired paragraph.

I request that the paragraph object is not returned to the item while no unambiguous sources to back it up. Nerêo (talk) 05:38, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

No violation here. There was no more than one revert per day, no edits from any editor in the last 30 hours. The fact that Nerêo did not warn WCM of this report by the reporter either before or after it was made is academic. Kahastok talk 15:22, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Anand reddy godwa reported by User:Sitush (Result:Blocked )[edit]

Reddy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
Anand reddy godwa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 18:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  2. 17:47, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "-"
  3. 17:38, 8 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  4. 17:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "/* Origin */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 17:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Welcome to Wikipedia! (TW)"
  2. 18:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on Reddy. (TW)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


Very probably connected to आनंद कुशवाहा (talk · contribs), who made similar edits earlier today. The info that they are adding is both unsourced and in fact plain wrong - it makes a nonsense of what the article says.

I tried to explain on their talk page, not the article talk page. Sitush (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

User: reported by User:Mona778 (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Peter Cullen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 18:57, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "/* Film */"
  2. 18:52, 8 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  3. 18:47, 8 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  4. 18:43, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "/* Film */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 18:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC) "Warning: Removal of content, blanking on Peter Cullen. (TW)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


This User has embarked on edit warring/content dispute. Mona778 (talk) 19:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

IP address has been blocked for one month by Materialscientist. See contributions link for IP, above, for why and how. MPS1992 (talk) 03:02, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Result: Blocked one month by User:Materialscientist. Unclear why this IP is warring to remove voice acting credits from Peter Cullen's article, when Cullen is billed in the article lead as being a voice actor. EdJohnston (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Haberstr reported by User:Volunteer Marek (Result: )[edit]

Page: Vladimir Putin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Haberstr (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [45]
  2. [46]
  3. [47]
  4. [48]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [49] (note multiple warnings on the user's talk page about edit warring also on other articles)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [50] (the discussion is spread out across several sections, Haberstr hasn't really participated much in any of them)


A straight forward violation of 3RR on a contentious article that has been plagued by edit warring. Numerous warnings on the talk page about etc. Not much wiggle room for making excuses here.

I am reorganizing the obviously disorganized Putin 'Public Image' section (note how polls are discussed, then individuals' assessments, then polls again). Instead of participating and helping, Volunteer Marek is mass reverting and, now, taking up time putting up a groundless edit warring complaint. I strongly suggest he participate in the welcoming and generous 'talk' section I have created [51] concerning that section. Give discussion and good faith a chance!Haberstr (talk) 01:02, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if you're "reorganizing" anything, but I do know that you are edit warring, as the four reverts in less than 24 hrs clearly show. I didn't "mass revert" either and I have participated on talk (a ton) - you're welcome to file an edit warring complaint against me if you wish (for making one revert in 24 hrs I guess), but otherwise, you're just making excuses.Volunteer Marek (talk) 01:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Well, it's easy to see [52] that I have successfully reorganized one messy and disorderly subsections into two logically organized subsections. Why has this edit been stable for a couple days? Perhaps because it is obvious to NPOV editors that it balances the 'pro' and 'anti' sides of Putin assessment, and fronts the mainstream points of view, in contrast to the previous version, which fronted the 'Putin is a dictator!' allegation by an opposition politician. As I've said repeatedly, the 'Assessments' subsection can be improved (especially the 'anti' Putin paragraph) and I will try to do so if others do not.Haberstr (talk) 17:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
It's not "reorganization" it's removal of stuff you don't like, i.e. a revert. It hasn't "been stable", it's just that other editors aren't edit warring like you so they don't revert as much as you. To call that "stable" is disingenuous ("I reverted four times, others reverted only twice, so it's a "stable version", ha!") Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

User:EtienneDolet reported by User:Volunteer Marek (Result: )[edit]

Page: Vladimir Putin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: EtienneDolet (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [53]
  2. [54]
  3. [55]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [56]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

  1. [57] (note EtienneDolet's lack of participation in that discussion)
  2. [58] (note EtienneDolet's lack of participation in that discussion)
  3. [59] (only one off handed comment in that discussion)


Yes, this is just 3 reverts rather than 4 in 24 hrs. However, EtienneDolet is very well aware that 3 reverts is not an entitlement and that repeatedly making 3 reverts than just stopping short of the fourth one constitutes gaming of the rules. Indeed, they've filed 3RR reports based on that very argument [60]. They have also tip-toed up to the 3RR bright line several times in the past, making this repeated behavior [61] and [62], [63], [[64]. The fact that ED regularly will make three reverts then wait for the clock to expire, while at the same time failing to participate in talk page discussion AND reporting OTHERS for making 3 reverts pretty clearly indicates that this is indeed an instance of gaming the rules and definite edit warring.

In light of the nature of the disruption, a 1RR restriction or a topic ban may be more suitable than a straight up block, for preventive reasons.Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:46, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

From what I see, I haven't broken 3RR in any of these cases. The first case was with a single-edit IP account, who is likely a sock of this account, add a lot of information to the lead. I've already explained why I disapproved of such material concerning his wealth and assets being added to the body, let alone the lead. Also, the whole unsourced bit about "[Putin made $200 billion dollars of] money that he has taken from the Russian economy over the years" being placed in the lead is also concerning and in my view is OR and a violation of BLP (should've mentioned that in the edit-summary though come to think of it). As for the other edits, both of them were followed up with an explanation on the TP explaining them: [65][66][67][68]. Therefore, it can be easily characterized as WP:BRD. Also, there's an overwhelming amount of support to exclude that material not just by me, but of most users on the TP as well ([69][70][71][72][73] and more recently [74][75][76]). This is really my first time I've been reported at 3RRN, and I would hope that I would have received an advisory after 25 February. That's nearly two months ago, and concerning an entirely different issue. So this came to me as a surprise. As for the 1RR suggestion, there's a lot of edit-warring going on from every side and this is gravely concerning. I'd suggest making the article itself restricted to a 1RR, as is the case concerning many EE topics such as Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War. It'll encourage much more discussion on the talk page. In fact, from what I see, it should be temporarily page protected as well. As you can see in the revision history, there's a lot of additions/removals/reverts happening in which an average of 3,000+ characters of information is being added/removed/reverted...and its ongoing. Some of it is a cluster of different information packaged into one edit making it very difficult for editors to assess each of their particular grievances over them at the TP. In other words, that brings instability to the article, and a page protection would encourage all parties to sit around and talk about it at the talk page. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Update: I sent the article to page-protection. I would like admins to see for themselves if it requires PP. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:28, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
You know, under normal circumstances that would be fine. But the fact that you have a tendency to try and use noticeboards, including this one (diff above) against other people for EXACTLY the same thing you're doing here, makes this look like a clear instance of WP:GAME. "Three reverts for me but not for thee". And despite your claims *you have* been warned about edit warring before (diffs above). It's just that you always tip toe right up to 3RR never actually break it. Which is why this is disruptive and why *some* kind of action needs to be taken.
(and if you think that IP is a sock puppet then file an SPI - I don't see it, there's no obvious person that that IP would belong to).Volunteer Marek (talk) 19:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
"EtienneDolet is very well aware that 3 reverts is not an entitlement and that repeatedly making 3 reverts than just stopping short of the fourth one constitutes gaming of the rules." - that's exactly what you and your pals have been doing for years (at least since the Ukrainian crisis began). Dorpater (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Please refrain from making false and vague WP:ASPERSIONS. Who are these "your pals"? Generic accusations such as these are simply personal attacks and nothing more. Do I need to file another report here?Volunteer Marek (talk) 17:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Even just a look at the page version history of Aleksandr Dugin [77] reveals you are constantly revert warring against many others to keep your preferred version with edits with absolutely meaningless edit summaries like this [78], [79]. This is just an obscure corner, but you're doing the same in articles like Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War or just anything related to Russia. Why is that? Dorpater (talk) 18:05, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
The Aleksandr Dugin article happens to be a page which is subject to lots of IP, WP:SPA and sock puppetry edits (I think something like three different sock farms got banned as a result of editing there). And there is a long standing WP:CONSENSUS version. But have I broken 3RR or even 2RR there? If I did, feel free to file a report, otherwise quit trying to hijack this thread with irrelevancies.Volunteer Marek (talk) 19:12, 5 April 2016 (UTC) (talk+ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · checkuser (log)) is Sayerslle, so the first revert is a 3RR exemption. See SPI. Erlbaeko (talk) 06:13, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

One IP is from UK the other from Florida. So I sort of doubt it. And what are you doing here Erlbaeko? Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
I am talking about the first revert you listed. This one. That is a revert of IP, which obviously is Sayerslle. Compare the IP-address with the IP addresses in the SPI (starting from 15 April 2015 (Skip the first one). Erlbaeko (talk) 13:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
The first revert listed here is well within the policy. The phrase "money that he has taken from the Russian economy over the years." has nothing to do in the lead and is, indeed, tantamount to WP:VANDALISM. Listing this edit here as supporting the claim that the editor reported is breaking rules is in itself an act of bad faith. Dorpater (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Please don't call legitimate edits - however much you disagree with them - "vandalism". It's a perfectly valid edit, and ED is edit warring over it.Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
There's no way a neutral user could call an addition of the unsourced phrase "money that he has taken from the Russian economy over the years" into a world leading politicians bio "perfectly valid edit". It is completely contrary to our BLP policy, too. Dorpater (talk) 17:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

User:2600:1010:B113:BFD1:4B4:6D4:A361:9472 reported by User:William Avery (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Distilled beverage (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
2600:1010:B113:BFD1:4B4:6D4:A361:9472 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 22:16, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "/* History of distillation */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 21:58, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Pompeii. (TW)"
  2. 22:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "Warning: Formatting, date, language, etc (Manual of style) on Distilled beverage. (TW)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


WP:ERA warrior William Avery (talk) 22:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – 31 hours by User:Smalljim for disruptive editing. EdJohnston (talk) 00:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User: reported by User:Clpo13 (Result: Semi)[edit]

Greek genocide (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 20:44, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "The "edit war" was started by two contributors sharing the same POV and derailing a more balanced discussion"
  2. 19:37, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714436102 by Dr.K. This is supposedly a NPOV encyclopedia that "anyone can edit", not a platform for nationalist propaganda. Please keep an academic tone and proper epistemology."
  3. Consecutive edits made from 18:55, 9 April 2016 (UTC) to 18:57, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
    1. 18:55, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "Map is incorrect"
    2. 18:57, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714432844 by Alexikoua: No removal of sourced content, only removal of POV"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 19:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Greek genocide. (TW)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


Despite warnings from multiple editors, the IP editor has not contributed to the article talk page. clpo13(talk) 21:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Result: Article semiprotected one month. Edit warring about the topic of genocide by a new IP with six edits. Please use the talk page to get consensus. EdJohnston (talk) 00:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User: reported by User:Josslined (Result: Semi)[edit]

Page: Saint Thomas Christians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Josslined (talkcontribs)


  • Result: Semiprotected two months. There are a number of IPs who are all reverting one another, making it hard to figure out what is happening. Anonymous editors should use the talk page to argue for the changes they would like to see. EdJohnston (talk) 03:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User:SaintAviator reported by User:Volunteer Marek (Result: )[edit]

Page: Panama Papers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: SaintAviator (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [80]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [81] (misleading edit summary - it's not deletion of repetition, it's straight up deletion of sourced material)
  2. [82] (misleading edit summary - it's not a "reorganization", it's deletion of sourced material, hidden by moving some paragraphs around)
  3. [83] (misleading edit summary - it's not a "BLP violation", it's deletion of sourced material, in fact, this hardly has anything to do with BLP which is just being used as an excuse to edit war)
  4. [84] (bad faithed edit summary - the user requests BRD but has failed to participate in any of the relevant discussions)
  5. [85] (ditto - user demands BRD but is not discussing anything with anyone, just edit warring)
  6. [86] (misleading edit summary - it's not "grammar", it's removal of well sourced information)
  7. [87] (misleading edit summary - ref works just fine, and if it didn't the proper thing to do is to fix it. This is just being used as an excuse to edit war)

There's several additional reverts made just outside the 24 hour period, but 7RR in 24 hrs are sufficient.

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

The user is clearly aware of 3RR [88], and has reported others for less before [89]. He has also, ironically enough, left a 3RR warning on User:Nomoskedasticity's page [90], even though that user did not come close to breaking 3RR. As User:Jolly Janner said "(the warning) establishes your own awareness of the rule"

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [91] - note the user made only single comment, and not a particularly relevant one at that. There are also one or two other sections on talk page which are related, which the user also failed to comment in.

(restoring edit conflict deletion SaintAviator lets talk 05:26, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Even a short block would be a huge help. The number of edits being made to Panama Papers is staggering, so this user's disruptive edits are often lost. This is made worse by their attempts to conceal removal of content as "grammar" in edit summaries. Jolly Ω Janner 05:03, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

It's seven reverts in 24 hrs. Non-consecutive. Reverting multiple users. It's edit warring, straight up. Additionally, the misuse of edit summaries to make the edits seem like something other than what they are indicates that this being done in bad faith.

The user has also made 3 reverts on a related article [92], [93], [94]. This one is not a 3RR violation per se, but it does show the proclivity to edit war (across multiple articles simultaneously). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volunteer Marek (talkcontribs)

Hello. Panama Papers (PP): I created the Russia section, The Ukrainian President section, and another which I just noticed was moved entirely to Russia by MVBWs with no discuss. On the PP TP on the 'Craig Murray' section, there were mass reverts in the PP article in the related section, during BRD discussions, including reverts by Jolly Janner. I thought the reverts mean spirited as the editor who made it was still explaining himself. I tried to get it stopped. My BRD edit summary message was ignored and reverted so I took a tea break, then went to discuss. It resolved OK after that. I did not See VM there but this notice may be spill over tension from Putin. Which has deep history as we all know, and has involved its share of noticeboards, 3 against VM I think. I believe Editors can often work stuff out. So Im disappointed by this complaint and also about on the Vladamir Putin article that some editors are breaking the week long discussion agreement on Not adding new material to the Putin Personal Wealth section, namely The Panama Papers.
I got no warning of this problem listed here, until I came back on after gardening and saw 2 alerts. It was suggested to us all by an admin, to reduce the Vladimir Putin article as it too big. I took up the suggestion. On my head I know. Its been a success, (but painfully slow), this is ongoing. VM has objected to this reduction, recently on the admins page.
I put a tag up on the Russia section in Panama Papers explaining its a developing story and that changes may be ongoing as things evolve. Someone removed it. Which is a pity because its useful in new articles like this. I think in summary Panama Papers is a developing story, its fluid. I have made positive contributions. Im not there to war, but the POV in the Russia section needs collaborative fixing. Im ready to discuss. So I'm starting a thread there.
BTW there was an odd anomaly which is explored on Nomoskedasticity page. Hence it appeared he went 3RR, But Im happy he did not, now. SaintAviator lets talk 05:12, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea of what you're trying to say above. Except for the part where you say you started a thread. Yes you did - after this report was filed. And you ignored several relevant discussions about the topic prior to that.Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Its fine. These were not bad faith edits. Thats a personal attack. As for brief edit summaries, here are 5 or so undiscussed mass deletions of yours [95] SaintAviator lets talk 09:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
BTW Jolly Janner here [96] reverted a BRD in the discussion phase. [97] I'm feeling like this complaint is a tactic being employed. SaintAviator lets talk 01:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
My understanding of BRD is that the status quo (i.e. without the added content) remains while the discussion is taking place. Anyway, BRD is just a recommendation from a few editors. If you want to avoid a block, my advice is to appologise and say you won't edit war again. Being defensive and blaming others won't help. Jolly Ω Janner 01:53, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
BRD promotes discussion, its a good tool. The quote was Boldly taken out I Reverted it back and Discussed. BRD. You reverted Again SaintAviator lets talk 02:05, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
And then you continued with your edit war [98]. Seriously there's seven reverts in less than 24 hrs, then a continuation of the edit warring.Volunteer Marek (talk) 03:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
  • What can I tell? SainAviator started this thread for discussion after being reported here. As one can see, he did not suggest anything specific. I asked to explain. He responded: That you discuss edits like this. You are not abiding by BRD. What BRD? I did not make any edits per BRD. This is not a good faith discussion by SainAviator. In addition, he apparently continue edit warring during standing 3RR request about him [99]. My very best wishes (talk) 02:58, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

[100] [101] There was no discuss for these reverts from you. Saying Im not Good Faith is a personal Attack. I get new articles have high flows and recentism. I started the Russia discuss during editing, prompted by this no warning complaint. Thats not a crime. SaintAviator lets talk 03:35, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

You made seven reverts in less than 24 hrs. And then, rather than self-reverting, or saying "ok, I'll stop now", you waited a few hours and then resumed your edit war [102]. If there ever was a case for preventive block, this is it.Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:23, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I resumed editing VM, in the same different topics. Not all were reverts. One a ref didnt work, went to home page. Another read badly. Another shuffled the text. Just ordinary edits. One was an error, Sergei Roldugin did have a section, I made it. The whole section was moved without discuss to 'Russia' by MVBW. Now being discussed here [103]. I thought it was repitition when I saw it in Russia. The two in defence of Der Golem were discussion BRD related. I helped resolve it. SaintAviator lets talk 04:46, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

BTW VM heres the response to your 7 mass deletes in 50 minutes. [[105]] made without any discuss [106]. And your having a go at me?

Fellow editors you have all either personally attacked me or been uncivil. The Panama Papers, has that mood in parts too. I think we can do better, also I got no warning. The Panama Papers also has had incredible turnovers, with less than full discussion. My attempt to reduce the reversion of Der Golems work was done in Good Faith / BRD dispute resolution and was helpful. Those two edits were not edit war reverts. The situation resolved. Of the other 5 VM lists 3 were ordinary edits, one was a mistake. Acknowledged. That leaves one revert in a BRD cycle. SaintAviator lets talk 05:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Here is the problem. Not only you edit war on this page, but you refuse to discuss anything. Here are your most recent comments on this article talk page: [107], [108],[109],[110]. You are not really discuss anything of substance, but disrupt editing by other people. Yes, I know, you do the same on other pages [111].My very best wishes (talk) 23:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Heres you MVBWs being chastised for not discussing moving an entire section. [112] I quote " but in this case, it wasn't discussed in a relevant section of this vast Talk page, and if I remember rightly, it wasn't up for more than 10 or 12 hours or so before you changed it. That's not a long time, my friend. Boscaswell talk 08:07, 9 April 2016 (UTC)' And by the way the discussion proceeds well. [[113] Its very uncivil to say, 'you refuse to discuss anything'. Is it because they agreed with me? SaintAviator lets talk 00:22, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
You made seven reverts in less than 24 hours, then the report was filed. You waited a few hours and resumed your edit warring.Volunteer Marek (talk) 19:35, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

BTW MVBWs Editors have other lives to live too, we do this part time. Discussion can take days. Just cool it a bit SaintAviator lets talk 07:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Tnafeh reported by User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (Result: Blocked 31 hours)[edit]

Tiran Island (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
Tnafeh (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 08:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  2. 07:59, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  3. 07:45, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  4. 07:43, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  5. 07:38, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  6. 07:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  7. 07:28, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  8. 07:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  9. 07:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  10. 07:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  11. 07:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "The editor of original article is engaged in deliberate whitewashing of a historic even, and revisionism of the worst kind,counting on the lack of knowledge of many readers of recnt events associted with.. This article MUST be edited or removed altogether"
  12. 07:12, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  13. 07:11, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  14. 07:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  15. 06:53, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  16. 06:37, 10 April 2016 (UTC) ""
  17. 06:31, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "shedding light onto a recent historic events deliberately omitted in the article"
  18. 06:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "recent sale of Egyptian islands to Saudi Arabia in exchange of financial handouts."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

  • Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – for a period of 31 hours. I agree with User:JamesG5 that his reverts of the very stubborn new user were justified, see the section above. Bishonen | talk 16:00, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User:JamesG5 reported by User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (Result: Declined)[edit]

Tiran Island (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
JamesG5 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 08:06, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714520844 by Tnafeh (talk) See notes on users talk page"
  2. 08:00, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714520212 by Tnafeh (talk) Please start a section on the Talk page to work out any new material rather than adding POV unsourced material."
  3. 07:48, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714518827 by Tnafeh (talk) Please take any changes you want made to this page to its Talk page instead of adding NPOV material"
  4. 07:43, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714518636 by Tnafeh (talk) Reverting persistent POV editing"
  5. 07:41, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714518276 by Tnafeh (talk)"
  6. 07:37, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714518021 by Tnafeh (talk)"
  7. 07:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714517416 by Tnafeh (talk)"
  8. 07:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714517151 by Tnafeh (talk)"
  9. 07:22, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714516715 by Tnafeh (talk) Please stop."
  10. 07:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714516386 by Tnafeh (talk) Please stop inserting point of view material here."
  11. 06:56, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714514478 by Tnafeh (talk) Reverting POV edits"
  12. 06:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714513132 by Tnafeh (talk) Please stop adding this material."
  13. 06:32, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714512694 by Tnafeh (talk) Reverting NPOV comments, please stop adding these."
  14. 06:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC) "Undid revision 714511715 by Tnafeh (talk) Reverting unsourced NPOV comments"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


Hi, I believe my actions fall under one of the 3RR exemptions. I was checking new user contributions and saw @Tnafeh:'s initial edit to Tiran Island which added several unsourced POV comments with a clear political bias (first edits from new account). The material was quickly re-added despite a warning on his user page, and his edit summaries showed more evidence of advocacy editing. Another editor, @Jim1138: joined me in protecting the page. I reported the issue at WP:AIV to request intervention, which was endorsed by Jim1138 and another editor who also placed warnings on his page. I posted to Tnafeh's talk page politely pointing out some of the policy issues involved and requesting that he take the issue to the article's talk page to seek consensus on changes, and made the same request in my edit summaries. Given the contents of the edits I reverted, the edit summaries by Tnafeh, the comments on his user page that he would insist on Wikipedia removing the entry completely if it did not change to fit his view, and the fact that this was a new account created for this single use I believe my actions were justified. JamesG5 (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Uninvolved comment As a completely uninvolved user with no previous contact with either of the users involved nor with the topic, I'd tend to agree with JamesG5. The content added by the new SPA was so obviously non-encyclopedic and biased that I'd lean towards agreeing that JamesG5 performed a clean-up, not edit warring. Jeppiz (talk) 15:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose.svg Declined. I agree with User:JamesG5 that his reverts of the very stubborn new user were justified, see also below. Bishonen | talk 15:59, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
I disagree. Obviously. The 3RR exemption claimed is for obvious vandalism (bolding in original). Not my issue though. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 16:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Dirroli reported by User:CFredkin (Result: Protected)[edit]

Page: David Jolly (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Dirroli (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [114]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [115]
  2. [116]
  3. [117]
  4. [118]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [119]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [120]

User has repeatedly inserted WP:POV and WP:UNDUE content to this BLP and was also warned multiple times of requirements for editing BLP's.CFredkin (talk) 18:09, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Please note how CFredkin changed his comment above about 24 hours after it was already responded to.[121] So instead of just crossing it out and adding his new comment, he completely replaced the old one to make his allegation against me sound more damaging. But what's laughable about that claim - about the content violating POV and UNDUE - is that his version and mine are virtually the same, except for CFredkin removing some info and adding an unsourced accusation about Jolly's spokesperson, Bascom. Read the two versions for yourself. It's the last paragraph of the "Political career" section; compare CFredkin's version[122] to my version.[123] What CFredkin also fails to mention is that the sources (provided below in this comment) provide much more detail to this entire story, yet my version uses just three sentences to summarize it. Also, CFredkin is actually the one who has egregiously violated the rules of BLP by repeatedly inserting content that claimed Jolly's spokesperson herself committed the improper act of whitewashing Jolly's Wikipedia article ("Sarah Bascom confirmed that she had made edits to his Wikipedia page to remove information about Jolly"),[124][125][126] when none of the sources say she did that.[127][128][129][130] CFredkin was told mutliple times not only by myself,[131][132] but also by another editor.[133][134] that no sources say Bascom did that. Yet, CFredkin kept re-adding the defamatory content about the woman. The bottom line is that CFredkin's version is remarkably similar to mine, but his not only removed important context for readers, it also clearly violated the BLP rules by inserting a false, unsourced claim about a living person. Dirroli (talk) 18:38, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I see that CFredkin also posted a comment on the Jolly talk page a few hours ago, right before he came here to post it, that my alleged POV violation was changing the word "confirmed" to "admitted",[135] even though that is precisely what the Jolly campaign did: admit it. What makes CFredkin's assertion even more mind-boggling is that the headline used by the primary source for all the content is "Florida Senate Campaign Admits To Scrubbing Candidate’s Wikipedia Page".[136] So, yes, they most certainly did admit it. Obviously, when someone is accused of doing something improper and then they "confirm" they did it, that is called an admission. This (calling the word "admitted" a POV violation) is a perfect example of CFredkin's intransigence regarding this matter. Dirroli (talk) 19:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
It should also be noted that in the primary source for this content, Jolly's spokesperson, Bascom, accused CFredkin of working for a rival campaign. She said, "Asked by BuzzFeed News which Wikipedia users were associated with a rival campaign, Bascom pointed to two users named 'CFredkin' and “Champaign Supernova.'"[137] I have no idea if that is true or not (I don't believe it is), but CFredkin is certainly a part of this story, so perhaps that is why he is so insistent about saying that Bascom actually made the edits herself, even though the sources do not say that. Dirroli (talk) 01:44, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps CFredkin has forgotten about his own edit warring.[138][139][140] The problem is that his changes are based on an illogical argument; that my verision is undue but theirs isn't, even though both versions are extremely similar. Another editor even told CFredkin this on the talk page.[141] Also, CFredkin's version injects an egregious violation of an article about a living person by stating that a particular woman (Bascom) committed the improper act herself, even though no sources actually say that. The other editor told CFredkin this, as well. Also, please note that CFredkin had an edit summary that said to discuss on the talk page, even though his first comment on the talk page wasn't until over two hours later, after I had already commented in the thread multiple times. Dirroli (talk) 18:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I offered to withdraw this complaint if Dirroli would self-revert to remove his edit from the article and agree to wait for consensus in Talk before restoring. Dirroli's response.CFredkin (talk) 19:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Why would I self-revert when your version violates BLP by making a false claim against a living person and removes important context for readers? So far, no one has supported your position, and another editor has also told you that your version is virtually the same as mine, except without the proper context. So, instead of discussing it on the talk page (until hours later, after I've already commented), what you chose to do was start an edit war, issue multiple warnings to an editor with whom you're in a content dispute, inject defamatory information about a living person into an article, and file a report at a noticeboard. And then, to top it off, you present an obviously self-serving offer in which you essentially attempt to blackmail me. Right. Dirroli (talk) 19:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
A review of the edit history of the article and the Talk page will confirm that the above statement is complete rubbish. Unfortunately Dirroli's behavior following warnings regarding WP:3rr and WP:BLP and his/her statements here indicate that the behavior is likely to continue.CFredkin (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Actually, the history will show everything I'm saying is true, which probably explains why you made a blanket statement rather than being specific about what you claim to be "complete rubbish". Also, it appears that you are the one whose edit warring behavior is likely to continue, since you've been blocked for it multiple times in the past[142] and are again doing it today. Are you using any other accounts to edit the Jolly article, because I noticed you were previously caught using other accounts?[143] Dirroli (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
No violation in my opinion. This was more an edit than a "revert". --Roy Howard Mills (talk) 18:26, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, the above statement is not factually correct (from WP:3rr): "An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert."CFredkin (talk) 19:56, 9 April 2016 (UTC) All the edits cited above deal with changes to the same core content.CFredkin (