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September 17[edit]


On top of the photo of Kinnaird Castle - there is a column of 4 dots. I cannot remove them and they look wrong. Please repair of able. Thanks (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Now, the photo is fixed. //nepaxt 00:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Joan Lindsay[edit]

Ref number 2 is in red - I have attempted to add "known as Lady Lindsay" into the introduction and also info box with the reference from Lindsay's entry from the official Australian Dictionary of Biographies text - - in which she is indeed referred to as "Lady Lindsay". Please repair the reference (number 2) itself. Thanks (talk) 01:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Hello. As has been told to you multiple times before, if you cause such errors by your own edits – as you did in this case by this edit (where you seem to strangely, and apparently deliberately, name your added reference with the same name as another past reference) – you should undo your edits and then request assistance. Additionally, the error was clearly documented in the error message, which said "tag; name "oneill" defined multiple times with different content ". If you find it hard to understand simple statements like this, then please don't come here without undoing your edits first. Lastly, I have this growing feeling that you are continuing to edit without logging in because you want to avoid your disruptive edits being connected. Please note the warning message that I had left on your account's talk page and please don't edit while logged out for such a reason. Thanks, Lourdes 05:27, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

How do i create a biography for the public to see?[edit]

hello,How can I submit an artist biography , and photographs for the world to be able to access. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoniobreez (talkcontribs) 02:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@Antoniobreez: Welcome. Instructions are at your first article. NOTE CAREFULLY: the subject must be notable, by our definition, not yours. See WP:NOTABLE. Really. We mean it. If you try to write create an article on a non-notable subject, it will be deleted, and you will be frustrated. If you are the subject, read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. If you are associated witht he subject, read WP:COI. If you are paid (or compensated in any way) by the subject, read WP:PAID. If all of this is too confusing, come on back and ask for help. Good luck! -Arch dude (talk) 03:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Antioniobreez. Many people have the wrong idea that Wikipedia is a place to tell the world about themselves, or about something important to them. It is not, and attempts to use it for that purpose usually lead to a lot of frustration for all parties. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia: its purpose is to summarise information which has already been told to the world. --ColinFine (talk) 10:03, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Easy Tagging of Articles with Twinkle ?[edit]

Is there an easy way that I can put tags, such as notability tags, on articles, perhaps with Twinkle, perhaps with a menu? If an article has not yet been reviewed, then the New Page Reviewer sidebar permits me to put a notability tag, a tag about references, a copy-edit tag, or a concern about the lede sentence, using a menu. If the article has already been reviewed, I know that I can edit the article and insert the tag, in braces, but that requires that I know what the appropriate tag is. If I can't do this with a menu, then a crib sheet that I can view in a separate window or copy to my C: drive would help. Is there a less cumbersome way to tag existing articles than to look up or memorize all of the codes in curly braces? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes Robert, Twinkle allows you to insert various maintenance tags quite easily, without having to remember the codes. Warmly, Lourdes 05:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
User:Lourdes - Okay. Now I see it as 'tag' when a draft or article is displayed. Thanks. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:17, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Getting a sample of Wikipedians[edit]

Hi. For a small thing I'm working on, I need to get a small sample of (say, 20 to 50) reasonably active (say > 5 edits / month, or at least 1000 edits in total) Wikipedians. I can weed out obvious newbies and so forth myself. How would I go about getting such a sample? Kingsindian   06:20, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Kingsindian, hello. One way could be to see the Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#1–1000 and see who all are currently active, and write an email to them directly. Lourdes 11:10, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Kingsindian   12:26, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Misha cross, legal and confidential info displayed without my consent.[edit]

Please erase my legal name and last name as well as early life info from the article „misha cross”. this information is strictly confidential and displayed without my approval. We have RODO you can face legal issues regarding this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:34, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I have removed your name from the article, as it is not in the source cited. Maproom (talk) 07:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
@ You should remove your threat of legal action, or you will likely be blocked from editing per Wikipedia's policy on legal threats. TeraTIX 13:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

How can I merge many citations into one ref?[edit]

Ok, here is what I would like to do: In Anarchism, oldid=859932300, there is this sentence: "Zhuangzi's philosophy has been described by various sources as anarchist" followed by four refs (44,45,46,47). I would like to merge all these refs into one, using shortened footnotes. I would like it to appear as ref.11 of the same article. Is it possible? Should I ask here? Thanks for the answers Τζερόνυμο (talk) 08:29, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

It would be possible. But it's not clear why you think it would be an improvement. Maproom (talk) 10:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Maproom thanks for the respond. Coz short-footnotes makes an article easier to edit, plus it summurizes the bibliography at the end of the article which is kind of helpful in many ways. Τζερόνυμο (talk) 13:42, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Shortened footnotes are most useful when one giant article is based on three of four refs, each of those a 1500-page book, and the many footnotes are actually different pages of the same book; not when you have conceptually separate refs, as it is the case in the exemple you give. Also, I doubt having four refs instead of one footnote greatly improves reading where the footnote is located. TigraanClick here to contact me 13:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks TigraanΤζερόνυμο (talk) 15:42, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

John Mogg (British Army officer)[edit]

Please restore pages to last version by Editor eaglash - there appears to be a problem with removal of text. Thanks175.33.45.21 (talk) 09:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for reporting it. Maproom (talk) 10:17, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

New Page Creation[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Team,

I have been trying to create a new Wikipedia page for Rakesh Khanna, MD & CEO, Orient Electric Limited. The draft URL is as follows.

Reference sources: 1, 2, 3, 4

This is to note that there is already a Wikipedia page for some other person of the same name. The page I have created is not going Live and I am seeking your assistance in this case.

regards, hitithard100 Naveen Kumar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitithard100 (talkcontribs) 10:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@Hitithard100: The draft has not been formally submitted for review. I would suggest that you not do so at this time, as it is unlikely to be accepted. The draft does little more than state that the person exists, much like a social media page. The two sources offered are routine announcements that only mention the person. To merit an article on Wikipedia, the person must have significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen to write about him(and not merely publish a press release or basic annoucement). Please review the notability guidelines for biographies for more information. Please also understand that not every businessperson merits an article here, even within the same field. Each article is judged on its own merits. See WP:OSE. 331dot (talk) 11:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Tony Whelan page[edit]

Dear PeeJay2K3 In the company of Tony Whelan at his home I edited his wikipedia biography both to update his profile and amend incorrect information on 14 September, 2018. You later decided to delete all this new information saying no sources were cited. In fact sources were already cited which verifies this information. Also, given your commitment to displaying misleading information about Tony Whelan - such as the details of his doctorate - it appears you have not checked the sources you cite. Please would you allow the new information to be displayed. Tony Whelan himself provided all the information yet it seems you feel you know his life better? Sincerely Phil Vasili — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil vasili (talkcontribs) 10:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@Phil vasili: If you want to address a specific user, you should post to their user talk page. If you are working with the subject of the article, you need to formally declare your conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 11:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
@Phil vasili: Please discuss this on the article's talk page. Please assume good faith (WP:AGF): the other editor is as interested as you are in improving the encyclopedia, so if you point out the discrepancies with cited sources, the other editor and you can reach a consensus. You will need to find published sources for all of your information and cite them, because we do not accept original research (WP:OR). That's because we have no way to know that you are who you say you are or that you actually talked to Tony, and no interest in verifying it since we do not have the resources to spend on that: it's just not the way Wikipedia works. -Arch dude (talk) 15:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Request for an update of size calculations for splitting an article[edit]

The "rule of thumb" listed in Wikipedia:Article size for splitting an article has not changed since 2008 (at least). Is it possible to update these values? because I feel that many good articles (therefore long) are unnecessarily split by following this rule, thus reducing Wikipedia's readability. Nowadays, articles are significantly lengthened by the increased use of citations (many articles have hundreds of citations, often with external links). Browsers have made significant progress in ten years and can display such large pages; I think it is time for a change. Values in the scale should be at least doubled imo. Another way to improve this rule would be to exclude citations/references from the calculation.

Not sure I'm in the right place for this request though, if so, can anyone send it to the right person (like a bureaucrat)? Thanks--T8612 14:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@T8612: Guidelines are changed by consensus among editors, not by bureaucrats. Raise this issue on the guideline's talk page (Wikipedia talk:Article size). If this does not attract attention, you could in theory just change the guideline, but I think you sould first ask for input at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). -Arch dude (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I have done that, here. T8612 19:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

On n'est pas couché[edit]


I just heavily edited On n'est pas couché but I'm not sure it is all written according to WP style (the table is fine, just the introduction). I don't know, a weird feeling I have. Can someone check it out?


WhatsUpWorld (talk) 18:28, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts. see my comment on the talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 18:41, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Repeatedly correcting misinformation on a page + now can't seem to edit[edit]

Hello, through the years I have been checking in on the page about the acting teacher and artist Stella Adler. I make factual corrections and link to sources whenever possible. But misinformation is consistently posted over my corrections. Now I would like to make some factual corrections but I seem to not have the right approval. What can I do? Alternatively I'd be happy to provide the corrections if you'd like to make them on your side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackInk123 (talkcontribs) 20:00, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

You seem to have successfully edited the page after posting here. If there is a disagreement over content, please discuss it on the talk page of the article. Do you have some connection with the subject? If so, then please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. Dbfirs 20:26, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Wrong interwiki link?[edit]

Hello, Computer-Assisted Passenger Prescreening System is linked to German Watchlist. However, in Computer-Assisted Passenger Prescreening System the word "watchlist" does mot even occur once! Moreover, the disambiguation Watchlist here links to Terrorist Screening Database, among other things, which I thought could be relevant for the aforesaid interwiki link. However, "Computer-Assisted Passenger Prescreening System" it is not included in the list within Terrorist Screening Database either.--Neufund (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Neufund. The term "watchlist" does appear twice in the article, in the second and last line of the article. Post your suggestion, I've added links to the said article within Terrorist Screening Database and the disambiguation Watchlist. Thanks, Lourdes 22:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
@Lourdes: Yes, of course, you're absolutely right – I'm sorry for my mistake! However, I'm still not sure whether that is the right interwiki link ... What do you think?--Neufund (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm not that well-versed with the topic so might not be the best responder. Why don't you open up a discussion the article's talk page specifically with respect to the interwiki link? Thanks, Lourdes 09:55, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

September 18[edit]

Re: Tom Crean (Explorer) article page[edit]

Hi, I've long been aware of incorrect information on the Wikipedia entry for Tom Crean after researching and writing a book about him. I have a longstanding association with Crean as I have operated a campaign to have him officially honoured by his country since 2010. I do now consider that my book Crean - The Extraordinary Life of an Irish Hero is the definitive biography on Crean but altering the information and references in the article could be considered a Conflict of Interests if I were to edit the content given that my book would require listing as a source. I have aired these views in the talk section of the article and I'm happy to share my book and its sources in order to justify the changes and provide evidence of the facts but still, a number of incorrect facts remain. It's a dilemma for me but it's frustrating to read falsehoods that I feel powerless to change given the possible accusation of COI. There are also a number of irrelevant external links some of which are dead and the inclusion of a longstanding campaign to honour Crean deserves mention given that a petition of over 10,200 signatures was handed in to the Irish government in February 2018 and that over 27,000 fans worldwide support the aim on a Facebook page.

I'd be grateful for any advice you can provide and I'm happy to provide a valued editor the details and evidence required to alter the article to reflect a truer description of Crean.

Look forward to hearting back from you


Tim Foley Timfoley50 (talk) 00:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Timfoley50: I responded on the talk page of Tom Crean (explorer). -Arch dude (talk) 00:50, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Wrong photo of Rohan Kanhai[edit]

This is not Rohan Kanhai. Please replace it.

Monty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:141F:4470:0:2778:49D4:8413 (talk) 04:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

What is the basis for your belief that this is not Rohan Kanhai? Can you show why the Australian Government's War Memorial Archives (from which the picture and its description has been obtained) are in error? (Note that I'm not saying you're wrong, but we need some evidence beyond an anonymous assertion from Someone on the Internet.) {The poster formerly known as} Maproom (talk) 07:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

The title of "Esquire".[edit]

How can you write such nonsense about the title of "Esquire"?

My husband was given the title of "Esquire" in 1993 from the Royal College of Arms in London acting on behalf of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, as they stated on the relevant documents. This was followed by a celebration at Parliament House in Sydney. He was also given a beautifully worked Coat of Arms on vellum. We hold the 1993 official documents as well as letters from Sir Conrad Swan the Garter Principal King of Arms of the Royal College of Arms congratulating my husband. Sunsequently we met Sir Conrad Swan when he visited Australia.

What you wrote may be true of America. In England although it is officially the lowest form of nobilty it is still a hereditary title, below that of a "knight", but above that of a "gentleman".

You can always check the veracity of this with the Royal College of Arms in London, not only about the title, "Esquire", but also whether Kenneth Nicholas Francis Weekes, Esquire, of Sydney, holds that title of nobilty.

Valerie Weekes.

The article Esquire seems to me to confirm your claim whilst also describing general usage. Dbfirs 07:12, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Royal 07:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Maproom (talk)

I did not intend to add my signature above. I did delete a large number of ref tags, whose presence was causing the entire page to fail to render correctly. Maproom (talk) 07:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
We were both trying to tidy up the look of the page. I left your signature because I wondered if some content had been accidentally deleted, but I later saw what you had tidied up. Dbfirs 07:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
To Valerie Weekes: if you believe that there are errors in the Esquire article, you should discuss them on that article's Talk page, making clear which statements you believe are wrong, and preferably supporting your views with a reference to a reliable published source that can be verified by anyone with access to a good library and the internet. Note these sentences from the article: "There is some confusion over the fact that the Lord Lyon King of Arms addresses correspondents by their name followed by "Esq." in correspondence, namely on letters. Some people erroneously believe that this makes them an Esquire". Maproom (talk) 07:24, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Addressing business and similarly non-social correspondance to "Firstname Lastname, Esq." rather than "Mr Firstname Lastname" was a common though declining UK custom up to at least the 1970s. In my 20s (i.e. in the 1970's) I received many letters, bills etc. so addressed on the envelope.
Incidentally, any person 'of good repute' who is a citizen of England, Wales or Northern Ireland*, and in many circumstances of another country if they have an ancestral connection, is entitled to apply to the College of Arms for, and be granted, an heraldic achievement (aka "coat of arms") on payment of the prevailing fees (most of which go to pay for the documentary research and artwork involved). The granting of arms implies a formal recognition that they are at minimum a "gentleman" (or "lady") – that is to say, their good repute is acknowledged. (* Scotland and The republic of Ireland have their own heraldic authorities.) {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 21:43, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

FK Vardar[edit]


I'm Goran Serafimov from Macedonia. I want to contribute about statistics for FK Vardar players and i faced with some problems with Wikipedia admins when I'm editing the articles. Can you please help me because I have reliable information for FK Vardar and I think that I can contribute to Wikipedia.

With best regards,

Goran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gokso (talkcontribs) 07:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for your contributions. Please be careful not to include original research, per WP:OR, and always include reliable sourcing when possible, per WP:RS. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 15:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Merging a category[edit]

Hi there. I'm not quite sure how to merge a category and don't want to mess it up. I noticed that w:Category:Historic Hotels of America was created today. However, there is already a w:Category:Historic hotels in the United States. If someone could help me with this (or do the fix for me!) I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:16, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

I think you'd want WP:CFD? DonIago (talk) 14:00, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
@Doniago: Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

No activity at WP:AfC[edit]

This has been going on for a couple of weeks now but there doesn't seem to be any reviewers working on pending submissions at WP:AfC. The backlog has now piled up to over 4,000 (including over 500 very old submissions) and there's no sign of any effort to actively eliminate it. Davykamanzitalkcontribsalter ego 14:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

There's. Everyday articles are accepted and many, many more are declined. You can just say there's maybe a slow activity or need for more reviewers and that discussion actually belongs to WT:AFCR not here. –Ammarpad (talk) 14:49, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

04:18, 26 June 2018 Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:Design and Simulation of a Parallel Hybrid Automotive Propulsion System (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement) (thank)[edit]

The topic listed above in the Subject/headline is my original work, a doctoral dissertation at the University of California Santa Barbara for which I received a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering in July 1970. The dissertation was registered (copyrighted) with the Library of Congress in 1970.

The full copy of the Dissertation is available for anyone to read at

but it will be more appropriate if it appears as part of an article about Isaac Barpal. Here is a short BIO of Dr. Barpal:

  Isaac R. Barpal
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Dr. Isaac R. Barpal retired as Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of AlliedSignal (now Honeywell) in July 1998. He joined the corporation in July 1993 and had oversight for the corporation’s engineering and technology efforts with a budget of over $1.1 billion and a technical staff of over 11,000 people. He also chaired the Technology Board, which included the sector technology officers and other key members and whose role was to administer the virtual Technology Centers and to foster cross-sector technology initiatives.

At the sectors, the technology efforts were both tactical, in support of ongoing operations, and strategic, to develop emerging technologies to better serve future market opportunities. These activities were conducted at dedicated local facilities worldwide, at specialized Technology Centers, which served cross-sector needs, and at “virtual centers,” such as universities, research laboratories, and other entities, both in the U.S. and abroad (e.g. Russia, China and India), from which the corporation obtained the best available technology.

The various Technology Centers’ staff of scientists and engineers conducted business-driven technology projects designed to add value to the products and services supplied by AlliedSignal’s three business sectors, to develop new technology, and to commercialize the technology into new products serving customer needs.

Dr. Barpal earned his B.S. degree in electrical engineering and applied mathematics from the California State Polytechnic University and his M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in electrical engineering from the University of California at Santa Barbara. He also attended the Advanced Management Program at Harvard Business School.

Before joining AlliedSignal, Dr. Barpal had a distinguished 22-year career at the Westinghouse Electric Corporation, which included engineering projects, operations, and general management assignments. His last assignment was as the Corporate Vice President of Science and Technology.

Since 2000, Dr Barpal has been a senior proposal reviewer (pro-bono) for the National Science Foundation (NSF) SBIR/STTR programs. The Small Business Innovation Research and the Small Business Technology Transfer organizations, provide seed funding (Phase I) and continuing development, prototyping and commercialization (Phase II) to anyone in the USA who applies and qualifies to a very strict set of rules. Dr Barpal’s expertise in R&D, technology transfer, and commercialization is invaluable in reviewing a large number of submittals to the NSF and in identifying candidates for funding.

In addition, he has participated in a number of private technology/business reviews on behalf of potential investors to advice them on the viability of new technologies.

Dr. Barpal has written numerous technical articles and holds several patents. Active in a number of engineering and professional societies, he is a registered engineer in California, Florida, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Brazil. Born in Argentina, he has lived in seven countries and speaks six languages. He is married and resides in Sarasota, Florida.

Please let me know how I can proceed restoring the link to the Dissertation or the full copy as well as starting a full page about Isaac Barpal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzikrb (talkcontribs) 15:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Itzikrb: We have multiple issues here. Wikipedia is not the place to publish original research, so the paper itself does not belong here. See WP:OR. For the professor, such an article is acceptable only if Dr. Barpal is notable by our definition, not yours. Really. We mean it. Failure to demonstrate notability will result in the articles deletion, so don't try to force it. See WP:NOTABLE, and more specifically, WP:NACADEMIC. Make sure that your assertion of notability explicitly matches any one of the nine criteria, and if it's not obvious, specifically assert this on the talk page of your draft article. when you create it. If you can support a claim of notability, then proceed as described at WP:YFA. -Arch dude (talk) 16:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Simple graphics[edit]

Who do we have who can do some simple diagrams for The Ocean Cleanup? I knew but now forget. If you know of anyone, please send them here. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:39, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Ah, never mind. A kind editor found the right place for me: Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


How do i create an article — Preceding unsigned comment added by My name is oof (talkcontribs) 21:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. Sakura CarteletTalk 21:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Inappropriate edit[edit]

To whom it may concern,

My brother borrowed my phone to edit ‘September 19’, notable events and our his birthday. This was intended as a joke but not appropriate for the page. If it can be removed that would be ideal and I apologise for the inconvenience.

Kind regards,

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

It's been already removed from the page by Jackfork so there's nothing you need to worry about. Sakura CarteletTalk 22:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Watch list modifications[edit]

My watch list preferences specify max. 3 days and 250 entries for the "Modified" list. However, all the tabs show me only about 50 entries, with the more restrictive tabs going back several days (>3) if necessary to reach the 50 limit. Can you explain this behavior? I am using the mobile version. Thanks. Jmar67 (talk) 22:30, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

That's part of many problems with watchlist on mobile. More of them are tracked here: T58817. You can however, switch to desktop site from your mobile and use it same as on desktop, though this depends on your screen size in seeing its benefit. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

can i edit spelling if i think it wrong[edit]

so I was in Plymouth colony and I saw some one spelled New Plymouth wrong the Y was a I so I changed it and they got mad at me and I looked at a picture to the side that was about it and it said new Plymouth with no I instead of the Y — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:15, September 18, 2018‎

IP your edits like this and this took correct information and made it incorrect. They are considered vandalism. The edit where you changed the Y to an I may have looked right but it is changing a cited item. Plymouth was also spelled Plimouth at that time. Please be careful in your future editing. MarnetteD|Talk 23:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Can't get to talk page on the 'Grace O'Malley' page[edit]

Hi, I'm trying to make a comment on the 'Grace O'Malley' page, but the talk button seems to be redirecting me to something unrelated - discussion about a user's IP - not mine. Can you help?

Thanks (talk) 23:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Strange. I just checked the talk page myself and it's displaying properly. Maybe it's something wrong with your browser? Sakura CarteletTalk 00:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps you hit the wrong "talk" button. Each signed edit comment has a "talk" link that goes to the user talk page. An article has a "talk" button at the top on a tab. If you hit the "talk" tab at the top of Grace O'Malley, you will reach Talk:Grace O'Malley. -Arch dude (talk) 02:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Are you sure it isn't your own IP talk page? The top line of pages have a "Talk" link leading there. It was User talk: at the time of your post. Many users have IP addresses which often change and have belonged to others before so the page may be discussing edits by others. The second line of article pages have a "Talk" tab to the article talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

If you are trying to start a new discussion on the said page, you could use this link. Lourdes 09:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

September 19[edit]

the monmouth rebellion[edit]

The article contains an error. Dryden`s Absolom and Achitophel did not deal with the Monmouth rebelllion;the poem was published four years earlier,in 1681. It was a satire on the Popish Plot,an entirely false allegation by Dr Titus Oates that the Roman Catholics of England were plotting to murder King Charles II.

In your article,it says that the poem deals in part with the Monmouth Rebellion. This is quite wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toates (talkcontribs) 10:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Have you read the reference in the article, or what is said in the article on Absalom and Achitophel? If you disagree with the reference or the interpretation, do you have another reliable source? In any case, the place for discussion is on the article's talk page, Talk:Monmouth Rebellion. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Dryden was referencing the crisis of 1681, not the Monmouth rebellion; although all the relevant articles are in sufficiently poor shape as to make the error understandable, if unacceptable. WP:BOLD, applies, IP. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 10:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[edit]

In the smarteach the company name MEDRC is changed to medisys — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivas Medisys (talkcontribs) 10:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

List of wedding guests of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle[edit]

Ref number 11 is in red. please attempt to repair if you are able. Thanks from a confused editor (talk) 11:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done: 2108 instead of 2018, again! The red message was quite clear that there was something wrong with the date. Please try to fix simple errors yourself. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry - I looked and looked, you have been very patient with me. (talk) 11:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Adding Information[edit]

I am a member of an Aviation Museum. How can I add information toa article For example we have a lot of aircraft and engines that we would like to be added to ON Display or Survivor posts. (talk) 11:39, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

If you are an ordinary member who is not employed or paid by the museum, you could probably just make the edits, but, to avoid any WP:Conflict of interest issues, it might be best to make the suggestions for change on the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 12:28, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • If the museum already has an article, just proceed as Dbfirs said, but make sure you cite sources. If there are not enough pictures, feel free to take your own pictures if the museum allows it and add them (come back here for help). Do not add their pictures or other people's pictures: you do not own the copyrights for them. If no article exists, first ensure that the museum is notable by our definition, not yours, and then follow the instructions at WP:YFA.-Arch dude (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Edits to the Taylor Woodrow page[edit]

Hi There,

I have been trying to update the Taylor Woodrow Wikipedia page and the edits do not seem to remain on the page even after I publish them.

Please can you assist me on this as I am getting a little frustrated?


Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 12:19, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

That's because there is a problem with your user name. Please read your talk page, and let us know what connection you have with the subject. Dbfirs 12:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I have now changed my user name to Tim Freeman-Taylor Woodrow, will the changes I made earlier be rectified once the username is confirmed?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 12:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)No, because some of your edits were written from the point of view of the company. Wikipedia must use an encyclopaedic tone, and never uses "our". Because you have a WP:Conflict of interest, and probably WP:Paid status, you need to declare this and preferably suggest changes on the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 12:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Are you able to help confirm & accept my updated username? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 12:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I work for the company and I am working with the external communications manager to align our messaging with our website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 12:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Please can you confirm that once my username has been confirmed, I will be able to up date the page using encyclopedic tones as I was before? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 12:41, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

You need to make a declaration of your WP:Paid status, and please do not make edits directly to the article. Wikipedia has no interest in what your company wants to say about itself, and will not align an article to match your "message". However, if there are factual errors in the article, then we are keen to correct them if you point these out. Dbfirs 12:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

There is a lot that needs updating / amending. Such as logos, links, text... So you are suggesting the only way todo this is to do it through pointing out factual errors? Why can I not edit the page directly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 12:51, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Please post from your new account, Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow, and not from the old one. Before editing further, and that includes here, you must make the declaration of paid editing required at WP:Paid editing; it is a mandatory condition. You may not edit the article directly because you have a conflict of interest. Any changes which you propose on the article talk page, supported by independent published reliable sources will be considered by other editors and implemented if appropriate. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
The current article is about the historic company, not the modern division. I'm not sure how we deal with situations like this, but we have some experts who will advise. What you must not do is to copy material directly from a copyright website. This will always be reverted. Dbfirs 13:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
There was a separate article Taylor Woodrow Construction, but the content got merged back into Taylor Woodrow. There has been some discussion at Talk:Taylor Woodrow, and that is where further discussion belongs. The heritage is discussed, to some extent, at , so that might be a useful source for future changes, provided that Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow understands the difference between
  1. providing new text based on a published source and
  2. copying copyrighted material.
--David Biddulph (talk) 14:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@David Biddulph : now posting from my new account. I have been on the WP:Paid editing page, how do I make the declaration of paid editing?

@Dbfirs : Thank you. Is there someone you would be able to put me in contact with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow (talkcontribs) 13:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Which part of Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#How to disclose don't you understand? And please make sure that messages on discussion pages such as this have a signature. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi David Biddulph, are you able to assist me with this? Please could you also see the suggested changes I have made for the TW page and let me know how best to proceed? Thanks for your help, appreciated.--Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

On your user page you need to add something of the form {{paid|employer=Taylor Woodrow|article=Taylor Woodrow}}
At the top of Talk:Taylor Woodrow you should place {{Connected contributor (paid)|User1=Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow|U1-employer=Taylor Woodrow}}.
I have commented on your proposal at Talk:Taylor Woodrow#Proposed updates of the Taylor Woodrow Page. Hopefully other editors will comment too. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:12, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Providing additional information[edit]

Do you have to be registered or have to Log In to provide information — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

No, we have some very good editors who prefer not to create an account, but there are advantages, including increased anonymity (since IP addresses can be traced to some extent). See WP:Why create an account?. Dbfirs 12:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Creating new pages[edit]

I want to contribute a lot about bihar. Help me in creating useful pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitkr5339 (talkcontribs) 13:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Amitkr5339: Follow the guidance at WP:YFA, and there is a Wizard there to help you create a draft for review. Creating a new article is not easy, and the usual advice to new editors is to start by improving existing articles instead. RudolfRed (talk) 16:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
@Amitkr5339: Welcome, and thanks for offering to help. Your information might fit into our existing articles about Bihar. If so please add it there. This is a good way to learn about editing Wikipedia. Please make sure you cite reliable sources (WP:RS) when you add information. If you wish add information about a notable Bihari subject that does not fit well in an existing article, then proceed as described by RudolfRed.-Arch dude (talk) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


Why there a huge backlog at Afc review, as it takes long time. Why not make more Reviewers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javed Dogar (talkcontribs) 18:04, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

If you know a magic spell that will create more people to review the articles, please cast it, or at least teach it to us. Otherwise, I don't know what else we can do. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, and all tasks (including reviewing AFC submissions) requires random people to wander by and decide to do it. I'm not sure how we force more unpaid, random volunteers to do that. --Jayron32 18:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your interest. Please feel free to start reviewing articles at AFC. -Arch dude (talk) 18:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
The OP does not meet the criteria set out at WP:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants to be allowed to review at AFC. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:31, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, David, my mistake. I hope the new editor will strive to learn enough to become a good reviewer while working to meet the criteria. -Arch dude (talk) 19:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
But he could be. The only real requirement is "stick around at Wikipedia long enough" and "be willing to fairly apply the criteria". The OP can do all of that, surely. --Jayron32 02:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Lua error[edit]

Hello everyone, Who can tell me how can i fix this error at ckbwiki? Tap the red text, you will see something. Thank you. ئارام بکر (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. If you have questions regarding the Sorani Wikipedia, you need to ask there. Their help desk is at ckb:ویکیپیدیا:پرسگا. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
David Biddulph you are right! But the codes are same. Mmm... enwiki users are created the templates and the modules and there skills are best; I just Copy it and paste to ours Wikipedia. Can not you help me to fix it? Anyone? Or just advise me to fix Lua errors. Thank you again. ئارام بکر (talk) 20:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
ئارام بکر, you can try asking at WT:LUA Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
It looks like the problem in this case is that the module doesn't work for wikis in languages that don't use the same number system as English. Why that happens is somewhat confusing, but it has something the module relying on strings being implicitly interpreted as numbers. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Short description at Toluca[edit]

Currently, the WP:Short description at Toluca says, "City and municipality in Mexico ----, Mexico". This look strange to me and I would like to edit it (remove the repeated dashes, etc.) However, there is no {{short description}} template used in the article. Normally, this would mean that the short description on the Wikipedia article defaults to the text of the short description of the corresponding Wikidata item. But wikidata:Q209034 has the short description "City in the capital municipality of Mexico State", which is different. So where is the short description coming from? And how can I edit it? Deli nk (talk) 20:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Deli nk the short description is automatically generated from {{infobox settlement}}. I fixed the issue Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:11, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I had no idea that it was generated by the infobox. Deli nk (talk) 20:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Templates are always a good place to look if you can't find something directly in the page wikicode, but there is a clue at WP:Short description#Seeing a short description but can't find the code in the page?. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:30, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Shasta Regional Medical Center[edit]

ORIGINALLY POSTED ON TALK SECTION OF WIKI PAGE; NO RESPONSE. I do work for multiple hospitals in California, largely on communications related issues. Full disclosure, Prime Healthcare, owner of Shasta, is one of my lesser clients but I am reimbursed for my time. My background, however, is in print journalism, and as a former journalist I'm struck by the lack of consistency and relevance of some of the items included in hospital postings. Yes, believe it or not reputation is important for hospitals, which work hard to position themselves as community activists. But when a common Google search results in a post that focuses on negative events that occurred some time ago, the reputation of the current hospital staff is damaged unfairly. Here, for example, the focus is on Shasta's former owners and whistleblower suits filed long before Prime took ownership. Ask yourself if this a fair accounting of the current operations. It isn't. As a paid consultant I don't have authority to change the page but I would hope that those who do understand the impact their work can have an institution's reputation. Here is a neutral way of approaching Shasta. I would be interested in hearing feedback: Opening Description

Shasta Regional Medical Center is one of two major hospitals that are located in Redding, California. It opened in 1945 and currently has 226 beds with an acute care facility and has become a regional medical center serving far Northern California.[1] It is also the first fully accredited chest pain center and has the first accredited nationally certified Stroke team in in northern California.


The hospital was the first in Redding California, opening its doors in 1945 as Memorial Hospital. It was purchased by Tenet Healthcare Corporation in 1976 and renamed Redding Medical Center. Tenet sold the hospital to Hospital Partners of America in 2004, and the hospital was purchased again in 2008 by Prime Healthcare Services. Shasta Regional Medical Center serves nine counties in Northern California.

Shasta Regional became certified as the first Chest Pain Center and became a Primary Stroke Center for the region in 2006.[citation needed] It was the first hospital in California and 11th in the nation to be certified as an Advanced Inpatient Diabetes Care hospital in 2010 by The Joint Commission.[citation needed]The hospital was named as a "Top Performer on Key Quality Measures" by The Joint Commission based on care and patient outcomes for Heart Attack, Heart Failure, Pneumonia and Surgical Care in 2010.[8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgkeane519 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC) Kgkeane519 (talk) 21:20, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Kgkeane519 (talk) 21:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I used Template:Request edit on your original talk page request so it will be more likely to be seen by other editors. Sections on relatively obscure articles' talk pages can frequently go unanswered, because very few or no editors watch the page. If you need to request more edits to articles you have a conflict of interest on, type {{request edit}} directly before your request. TeraTIX 23:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

September 20[edit]

Adding to an existing article[edit]

A friend of mine's daughter has just released a single and it is a cover of a song and would like to include it in the history of that specific song as it is a pop classic. What am I allowed to include and not include. Just trying to help her daughter with her contribution to the world of music. What do I need to include to ensure it is verifiable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichFtl (talkcontribs) 05:15, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

You need, at minimum two things 1) A citation to a reliable source to verify the recording both exists and is worth mentioning (that is, do OTHER well-respected publications have writing about the song your friend recorded? Did Rolling Stone Magazine review it? That sort of thing) and 2) Consensus among other Wikipedia editors that the recording is significant enough to bear mentioning. It is most important to note that the baseline for Wikipedia is NOT that something exists, but that there is in-depth, reliable writing about it elsewhere, so we know that the world at large finds it significant enough to have written material about it. --Jayron32 12:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for that info, I may be premature at this point but at least I know what I need to pay attention to in order to make sure I can accomplish this. Thank you

Diana, Princess of Wales[edit]

Ref number 87 is in red - it is from the UK Times. Please help if yo can. ThanksSrbernadette (talk) 07:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. @Srbernadette:. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:55, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
What was there about Help:CS1_errors#citation missing title that you failed to understand? How the hell many more times do you need to be told that when an error message in red has the word "help" in blue that means that the word help is a wikilink to specific help on your error? We have kept on asking you, if you don't understand English what language should we use when talking to you? --David Biddulph (talk) 08:00, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


did kessler's deparment stores in ga, sell food in the stores — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:FE30:6970:F5A3:1AD2:E5ED:1D17 (talk) 11:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, this is the desk for help in editing Wikipedia. The reference desk may be able to help you. Eagleash (talk) 11:13, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

PRotected talk pages[edit]

How exactly are you suposed to get to the talk page of a talk page? See: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello. You have at least four options, two of which are guaranteed to work: You can talk to the protecting admin (Laser brain) to request unprotection, make a request to reduce protection at WP:RFUP, create an account and make a few edits to become auto-confirmed, or make your edit request at WP:RFED. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Peer-review on Wikipedia[edit]

How do I get a draft of an article peer reviewed on Wikipedia before moving to article space? Sumantra1 (talk) 12:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:27, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


WHO IS ARBITRATOR OF ALIMCO — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:27, 20 September 2018‎