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April 19[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 19, 2018.

Tunis Gulic Campbell Jr.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep / nom withdrawn. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 17:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Redirect from son to father, but son is not mentioned in father's page. Son is mentioned in Romulus Moore but that seems too slight to be worth a redirect. PamD 23:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete - Too slight!--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I added son to father's page and targeted the redirect to the appropriate section. Son is notable in his own right as an elected Georgia representative, but at least he's noted as such in the targeted article along with the fact his prominent father campaigned for him. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Withdraw now that son is mentioned in father's article (and I've edited to name and bold him there). Redirect is now useful. Thanks, @Florida army:. PamD 06:58, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
@FloridaArmy: predictive text messed up previous ping! PamD 07:01, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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King Michael I Park[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 01:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

No mention of this term in target article; no evidence for usefulness of this redirect. Target article mentions several previous names for the park, but nothing resembling this one. PamD 22:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep the redirect creator actually cited the redirect in their edit summary, and I've added the term to the article. -- Tavix (talk) 22:35, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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FBI raid of Michael Cohen's Office[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Michael Cohen (lawyer)#Federal investigation. Keep and refined to the relevant section in the target. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor Talk 22:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Recently discussed at AfD and closed as delete and redirect, but there was insufficient input IMHO as to whether it should even be kept as a redirect. Propose deletion per WP:RFD#DELETE criteria 8. Title is sufficiently obscure (very unlikely it would be useful) and has no history to merge to target article. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 21:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep People will likely search for info on the raid, given its historical nature.Casprings (talk) 00:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep - Useful and notable redirect.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
It appearing in the news (and lasting a news cycle before then being quickly replaced by other sensational events) does not make the raid "historical" or notable. It's not useful because it is highly unlikely people will search for it using those exact terms (or terms close enough to it that the search engine would list the redirect as a result), and even if somebody does search for it (and it's much more likely they will search for "Michael Cohen", but I digress) this content already appears in Micheal Cohen's article. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 01:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep - Plausible search term, Google's filled up with results so I see no valid reason to delete. –Davey2010Talk 17:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:WPSW[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 01:29, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Ambiguous as there are other WikiProject banners for which this could redirect to, such as {{WikiProject Software}} and {{WikiProject Star Wars}}, unless "I created it first" is an acceptable rationale. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:32, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Ambiguous. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep - Keep. There is no higher use, nor a good reason to delete. {{WPSOFT}} already exists. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Funny you would need to mention Template:WPSOFT already existing since it has so many letters. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment -
  1. This tag has been used for several months, so the time for deleting it has long passed.
  2. "One of the lowest things one can do is steal another mans tools. So you have no use for it. That it's being used is good enough. Such Nominators should be required to be the one to hand edit and remove any deleted tags."
  3. "Redirects are not only cheap but this is a redirect from and to template namespace. That would tend to indicate to me that anyone using it is an editor rather than a general reader and they are hardly likely to get it confused. There are lots of little abbreviated things pulled up over the years such as {{tlc}} or {{tlx}} or whatever as useful shorthand for editors."

--Jax 0677 (talk) 15:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Steel1943 (talk) 00:14, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom; problematic. Frietjes (talk) 14:45, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:WPd[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 01:22, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Unused and ambiguous. I don't know what it was originally used for but Template:WPD was deleted years ago. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Odd. Template:WPD was redlinked yesterday with a deletion history so I'm not sure how it exists now as being created in 2013. It should be included in this nomination. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:49, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Per the deletion logs: @Tavix: Can you address this? Steel1943 (talk) 01:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Fair enough. It has been added to this discussion -- Tavix (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Ambiguous. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete Template:WPd, shortcuts rarely (never?) are a combination of uppercase and lowercase letters. Keep Template:WPD as it matches WP:WPD. Shortcuts are ambiguous by design; if ambiguity is a valid reason for deleting shortcuts, there won't be any useful shortcuts left. -- Tavix (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Upon further reflection, I'm changing my mind to delete both. Shortcuts like these in reader-facing areas should be discouraged as it creates a cryptic code when editing these pages and encourages some pretty extreme laziness. -- Tavix (talk) 03:25, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:WPDA[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 01:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Ambiguous, far too many possibilities for DA on Wikipedia (e.g. WP:DA for duplicated article, and based on author's other shortcut creations Template:WikiProject Dance could be a just as likely target), while the easier to remember and comprehend shortcut, Template:WPDAB, already exists for this project. I also recommend the use of any of these shortcuts that already serve the same purpose. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:58, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  1. This tag has been used for several months, so the time for deleting it has long passed.
  2. "One of the lowest things one can do is steal another mans tools. So you have no use for it. That it's being used is good enough. Such Nominators should be required to be the one to hand edit and remove any deleted tags."
  3. "Redirects are not only cheap but this is a redirect from and to template namespace. That would tend to indicate to me that anyone using it is an editor rather than a general reader and they are hardly likely to get it confused. There are lots of little abbreviated things pulled up over the years such as {{tlc}} or {{tlx}} or whatever as useful shorthand for editors."

--Jax 0677 (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

  • delete per nom; problematic. Frietjes (talk) 14:46, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Raw Toast[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. I make this joke all the time and nobody finds it funny. ~ Amory (utc) 01:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Though toast is toasted bread and bread is toast before it is toasted, I'm not seeing how this is a likely search term, considering that bread is not raw itself. Steel1943 (talk) 18:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete as neologism. [1] [2] Alternatively it should go to Toast, as the lightest setting for toasters. Raw Bread would be dough. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:21, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
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Somun[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Flatbread. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor Talk 23:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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The staff of life[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. See below (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 17:42, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep: now mentioned in target article, with sources. Have amended it to point to the relevant section of the article. Have also boldly retargetted Staff of Life, previously targetting a chapter of a prose-poem. PamD 08:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, PamD, I'm striking my above vote. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:17, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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  • @Davey2010: Umm... I didn't withdraw this. But, I do agree with your close otherwise. Steel1943 (talk) 00:16, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Somehow closed the wrong RFD I think ?, No idea but having contacted Steel they said they were happy it being closed[5], It goes without saying if anyone (or the nom) wants to renominate I have no qualms, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 01:26, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Milk Loaf[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 29#Milk Loaf

Ammunition bread[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 29#Ammunition bread

Fallen cake[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor Talk 23:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep – The redirect section states:

"A cake can fall, whereby parts of it sink or flatten, when baked at a temperature that is too low or too hot,[1][2] when it has been underbaked[2] and when placed in an oven that is too hot at the beginning of the baking process.[3] The use of excessive amounts of sugar, flour, fat or leavening can also cause a cake to fall.[3][4] A cake can also fall when subjected to cool air that enters an oven when the oven door is opened during the cooking process.[5]".

This is entirely about the topic. North America1000 21:30, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Science and Industry. Colliery engineer Company. 1899. p. 174.
  2. ^ a b Eicher, L.; Williams, K. (2009). The Amish Cook's Baking Book. Andrews McMeel Publishing. p. 118. ISBN 978-0-7407-8547-4.
  3. ^ a b Gelb, A.; Levine, K. (2005). A Survival Guide for Culinary Professionals. Thomson Delmar Learning. p. 243. ISBN 978-1-4018-4092-1.
  4. ^ "Fallen+cake" The Hospital Corps Quarterly: Supplement to the United States Naval Medical Bulletin. 1944. p. 128.
  5. ^ Eckhardt, L.W.; Baigrie, J. (2005). Cakes from Scratch in Half the Time. Chronicle Books. p. 23. ISBN 978-0-8118-4240-2.
  • In the culinary world, the term has been used for at least a century (Here is a book source from 1918 that uses the term). The redirect is certainly not serving to "attempt to use Wikipedia to increase usage of the term" (as per WP:NEO). Not in the slightest. The redirect is purely meant to direct WP:READERS to the article that covers the topic. North America1000 23:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Northamerica1000: Can you find a way to add it to the article in a valid encyclopedic fashion in bold font? Steel1943 (talk) 00:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep as it's covered in the target article. There are hundreds of results on google books and the half a dozen I checked were on that topic. I don't see a need for the target article's prose to attempt to explicitly mention all common generic variations of a phrase. – Uanfala (talk) 10:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep as well known term in the cooking industry (and out of it), Anyway per above and the sources keep. –Davey2010Talk 17:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Nicholas nasim Taleb and variants[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 29#Nicholas nasim Taleb and variants

Nasim nicholas Taleb[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Unopposed. Happy to undo pending outcome of the above. ~ Amory (utc) 16:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Implausible capitalization. Auto-correct would capitalize Nicholas and lower-case taleb, not the other way around. Plenty of other variants already redirecting properly. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Delima[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 29#Delima

List of seating styles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:29, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Seating is a redirect to Seating assignment, and Seat is an article about the physical object which one sits on. For these reasons, the nominated redirects are misleading since the target article is about the act of sitting, not physical seats. Steel1943 (talk) 19:40, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment Seating arrangement would be the best synonym for "seating style" [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] Unfortunately there is no article for arranging seating besides that assignment one. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:48, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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Criss cross applesauce[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Politrukki (talk) 06:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

In addition to not being mentioned in the target article, the subject of these redirects is a song. So, delete since no information about these redirects' subject is in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment When I were a lad, we called it Indian style, which redirects to the same place. Whatever the outcome is for criss-cross applesauce, the same should probably be done to Indian style. --Trovatore (talk) 21:01, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep These redirects are doing what they're intended to. This was called Indian style when I was in school, but even then it seemed weird; teachers are using criss-cross applesauce for the little ones. As a recent parent, I hadn't heard this until a number of months ago, so I'd consider this useful, especially if refined to the "On the floor" section. ~ Amory (utc) 11:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Keep as Indian style is described in the article, and this is a nickname for it. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:12, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep as per above - Indian style and as such should be kept. –Davey2010Talk 17:46, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is a common phrase for sitting cross-legged, it was what they always called it when I was in primary. (Haven't heard the phrase in years, that takes me back. Also, congratulations Amorymeltzer!) I would not be opposed to it being refined to point at Sitting#On_the_floor. --TheSandDoctor Talk 22:16, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
    • ❤️👶 ~ Amory (utc) 01:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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Noe Ramirez[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nominator has withdrawn the nomination and no others have suggested deletion or otherwise, therefore satisfying WP:SKCRIT criterion #1. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor Talk 22:19, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

This redirect has created a few problems. There are 2 Noe Ramirez Noé Ramírez Mandujano and Noe Ramirez (baseball). An editor who has a history of removing redirects made a bit of a mess here. I added a hat note to the baseball article so Ino need for a DAB page or a redirect Dom from Paris (talk) 09:25, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Aqwa (The Capital of the Republic of Abkhazia)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 01:35, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Delete due to the long, obnoxious, implausible disambiguator. -- Tavix (talk) 03:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hinduism in Bolivia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. While being cognizant of the trainwreck history here, this piece seems fine ~ Amory (utc) 01:46, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Another group of misleading Hinduism redirects from countries where Hinduism is negligible, this time in the Americas. Wikipedia has no information on Hinduism in any of these countries. -- Tavix (talk) 02:25, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete like similar batches we deleted. What no hindus in that little piece of France off Newfoundland? Legacypac (talk) 02:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • There's over 6,000 people there! There has got be at least one... -- Tavix (talk) 02:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
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Another One (EP)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Another One. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor Talk 15:04, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Misleading, the target is not an EP. -- Tavix (talk) 01:12, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment it's described as a mini-LP so plausible attribution as an EP. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 01:20, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Another One since most readers probably don't know the difference between an extended play and an album. Steel1943 (talk) 17:01, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Steel. feminist (talk) 07:19, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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Another One (Remy Ma song)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Keep as retargeted. We good here? ~ Amory (utc) 01:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Another One (song) is a bizarre redirect; there were never any songs listed at the disambiguation. The Remy Ma song is not mentioned at her discography either. -- Tavix (talk) 01:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete Remy Ma until it is added to her discography or her bio, supposedly a diss track against Nicki Minaj. The song one can stay at the dab since they are tracks of the albums. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 01:24, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for checking, I've added the songs to the dab so there is sensible content and withdrawn the redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 01:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Tavix: What Angus just said was the reason I made Another One (song)—both albums listed at the dab page have title tracks called "Another One". "Another One" is a song by Remy Ma ([11]), I just assumed it was going to be added to her discography a year ago. I'll add it to her main page in the section about her feud with Nicki Minaj, as it's a diss track aimed at Nicki. Ss112 01:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
I've repointed Another One (Remy Ma song) to the section on Ma's talk page, where I added a bit about it. Ss112 01:51, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
That works for me. Please tell me you didn't do a lot of assuming like that when creating redirects, I hate it when redirects point somewhere without mention. -- Tavix (talk) 01:59, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
I did in the past, until I realised it could be construed as WP:OR, so I don't do it anymore—now I'm usually the one telling other users who create redirects to at least have the redirect mentioned at the target article. Ss112 17:15, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
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Animalus Anthropomorphicus[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 27#Animalus Anthropomorphicus

Life of pi 2008[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 01:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Redirect was a failed guess at the film's year--it was released in 2012, not 2008. -- Tavix (talk) 00:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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