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How long till my article is reviewed after been blocked?

I have been blocked once,given a "last warning" for moving articles to mainspace before they were approved and repeatedly warned. Do you think there is hope for me? My article is still awaiting review and I fear I might be going through my punishment. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EndiongJohn (talkcontribs) 13:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

If you read the notice in the brown box on your draft Draft:Uwemedimo Nwoko, it says "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 7 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1949 pending submissions waiting for review." Is there something in that which you don't understand? While you are waiting, you can read some of the links from WP:Welcome, and continue to improve your draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
The block was in place until you changed your User name and the Warning was for moving drafts directly to mainspace. Neither action carries over to AfC review of your draft. Do realize that your submittals of this topic has been declined four times and your references are still not up to standards. David notMD (talk) 04:58, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Disclaimer: reproductions are allowed for newspapers and periodicals

Dear Tea House

When an image (movie marketing material image from 1987) has this text "reproductions are allowed for newspapers and periodicals" does that disclaimer include the internet (which was post 1987) and can this apply to creative commons for uploading to Wiki? To get approval from the image maker and/or the company may be impossible and the image could be useful to wiki and the existing wiki article that was already approved here.....

Regards Josephintechnicolor (talk) 05:01, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Josephintechnicolor: It's never Creative Commons unless the author explicitly marks it as such. The "newspapers and periodicals" thing is probably a bit of a stretch, but luckily your usage probably falls under fair use (a provision of US copyright law that allows use of copyrighted works in some circumstances which are fairly complex, but generally use on Wikipedia in a way that doesn't compete with the original work is fine—the movie poster is fine, the whole movie isn't). The File Upload Wizard should guide you through the process—in step 3, select "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use." then "This is the official cover art of a work." I'm not a lawyer, yada yada yada. Gaelan 💬✏️ 05:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Dear Gaelan Thank you very much. Greatly appreciated.05:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)Josephintechnicolor (talk)
Hi Josephintechnicolor. Since you seem to be talking about adding images to an article about a film, you might want to take a look at WP:FILMSCORE and WP:FILMNFI for some more specific guidance. It can sometimes particularly hard to justify adding non-free images to articles because Wikipedia's non-free content use policy has been set up to be quite restrictive. Non-free use is tricky, and uploading a file under the correct copyright license doesn't automatically mean its intended use complies with relevant policy. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


I need an administrator to look into the actions of a user. He/She is doing constant disruptive edits to a page and using derogatory language. To me, I think it warrants a block. Snickers2686 (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Snickers2686: Who is the user? I (or someone else here) would be happy to report them for you. Alternatively, you could report them to WP:AIV (Administrator intervention against vandalism, for clear cases of vandalism where the user has already received several warnings) or WP:ANI (Administrator's noticeboard: incidents, for more involved cases). Gaelan 💬✏️ 05:28, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
@Gaelan: I just posted a warning to said user. It is Baconman789. Looks like a new account. Snickers2686 (talk) 05:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
@Snickers2686: The account was blocked by an administrator named Drmies. For future reference, when you come across an account making edits like this, you can safely assume WP:NOTHERE and WP:VOA. Just start a discussion at WP:AIV as suggested above. Often, it seems to not be a complete newbie doing this, but rather someone who's been blocked for something similar and who's now creating sock puppets to continue on as before. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you Marchjuly. I wish that User:EdwardUK had left a warning, or filed a report, after the first series--any time an editor sticks in "n-word", it's time for a block. Drmies (talk) 05:47, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
    • @Drmies: The very first edit that account made was probably a pretty good indication what was to come. I think it's also safe to suggest they they are not really going to need user talk page access after seeing the unblock request they left on their user talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:01, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Unable to add alternate-language link to wiki page

The following wiki pages cover the same subject (a Japanese television series) in two different languages:

I tried using the "Add Links" option under the Languages section of the sidebar, specifying both the language and the translated page title - however, the following error message appeared:

"Error: $1.

Attempted modification of the Item failed."

Any ideas what I could've missed? Sumghai (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hopefully now merged in Wikidata at d:Q38278511. Initially wouldn't merge because one was shown as part of the other. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
@Sumghai: The merge has been reverted, see this diff. If you disagree, you may wish to discuss it with the other editor. I couldn't comment, as I don't read Japanese. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:55, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
@David Biddulph: I saw the other editor's comments - basically, the English version covers only the TV series, while the Japanese version covers the larger media franchise. I'll have a chat with the other editor to see what we can do. Sumghai (talk) 06:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Wiki on an actress and nominee of Youth Award

Hello Tea house Could you please give me some criticism on this pending wiki Regards Josephintechnicolor (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello Josephintechnicolor and welcome to the Teahouse.
Based on what the reviewers have said after looking at your draft, you have chosen a subject who does not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for being included. Unless there are some more prominent roles than the ones you have presented, we can't have an article about Hyman. You've been directed to look at NACTOR to see the criteria that the reviewers applied. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 07:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Draft Review

Hello, I have created a draft for Tasty Tibet, since my previous attempt was labeled promotional content can someone review my content and give me feedback about what is needed for it to not be promotional. Here is the draft of Tasty Tibet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mot1992 (talkcontribs) 05:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello again Mot1992 and welcome back to the Teahouse.
I can't read your earlier article on Tasty Tibet but I see that it was deleted for being too promotional. Now that you have created a draft at articles for creation, I can read it - but it's very short and does not appear to even attempt to show how this restaurant chain meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability of companies. The references in English are very brief publicity blurbs and are completely unable to establish notability. I can't directly read the reference in Bengali, but based on the very mangled Google translation, it appears to be a short restaurant review and also does not go very far towards establishing notability. If you were to submit this draft for review, I would expect it to be declined.
I realize this may be disappointing news to you. You have not responded to the request on your talk page to clarify whether you have a conflict of interest regarding your chosen subject. The fact that you've had two submissions deleted for being promotional means that you should probably stop trying to create new articles until you have learned more about how Wikipedia works. Creating new articles is quite difficult. Spend some more time improving existing articles and remember that any facts you add must include a citation to a reliable source. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 07:39, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I want to create Wikipedia Page


I want to create a Wikipedia Page for our organization. What is the step-wise approach for it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhargavi Mandalika (talkcontribs) 07:58, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

The first step is to read about conflict of interest and make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. Then read the notability definition at WP:NCORP, and then you could go on to the advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:03, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Foreign language referencing

Hello, i am trying to write an article about a business in Kuwait but have faced the problem that there aren't many reliable English references available to use. Is it possible to use Arabic references from reliable sources (news articles) or would i have to first write an article on the Arabic Wikipedia then request for that to be translated to English? Thank you for your time and advice, MahmoudGohary96 (talk) 07:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello MahmoudGohary96 and welcome to the Teahouse.
While we prefer to see references in English, references in non-English publications are accepted. Please see the Wikipedia notability criteria that apply to businesses to see what kinds of references are needed. And if you have a connection with the business in question, please be sure to read the conflict of interest policies. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 08:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Article deletion due to non-editing of dfraft

Hi there all. I'm a bit confused as to the process surrounding new entries. Six months ago I created my first entry and published it in draft form. I come back here regularly - mostly to read stuff rather than edit - but didn't see any feedback from editors or those who approve these things. Today I received a notification that the article draft has been deleted due to "inactivity" - IE I haven't done anything to it. I wasn't aware that it needed work and I went to great lengths to keep the language neutral and to only include information that could be verified via cited articles.

So what did I do wrong and how do I get it back? I've tried reading the "undeletion" information but it has just made me more confused to be honest. The article was on a Dutch DJ and musician known as Young Marco in case anyone knows how to look into it and see if I missed any criticisms/requests for rewrites.Sellbydave (talk) 13:05, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Sellbydave: and welcome to the Teahouse; I have restored the draft, and actually there was feedback in August 2018. Lectonar (talk) 13:10, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll take a look at the feedback and act on it. Sellbydave (talk) 13:16, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I seem to be having trouble getting into a talk situation with the editor who declined the article. I tried to click through to the guidelines to check where it was I went wrong, but it just brings up some template window thing. The main reason it was declined seems to be that the subject in question wasn't "notable" enough, yet he is better known and has a wider discography than some other music acts and DJs who have entries. I'm happy to change it if there's something I can do to get it past the editor/make sure it is suitable, but without a clearer explanation I'm not sure this is possible. There was also some reference to cited sources being "close" to the subject but they were all reputable music magazines/websites and not personal websites, bar one link to his record label's website. Sorry if I sound dumb and confused but I am new to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sellbydave (talkcontribs) 13:28, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bkissin: Lectonar (talk) 10:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Help with Editing

Would really like somebody's help with this as we were told to add more references into our draft page for it to be published. We added references in and now we have been told it is not acceptable as the references are not suitable. Very unsure as to how we are able to going to publish this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:00, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure who "we" is, but from the edit history of your IP I think you have an account but are logged out of it, as there are no recent edits to a draft logged under the IP. To better help you, we will need to know the name of the draft you are talking about. If by "we" you mean that you are attempting to create a draft about your own group or organization, you will need to review WP:COI and WP:PAID; it is usually inadvisable to edit about one's own organization. I can't give more specific information without knowing the draft involved. 331dot (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

How to add the box with image and information on the right side?

I am about to publish an article on wikipedia. I really wanted to know how to add that box on the right that contains the summary of bio and pictures of people. I couldn't find such information myself, please help me. Horses With Angel Wings (talk) 11:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

See Template:Infobox person. Does that help? Mstrojny (talk) 11:28, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
See Help:Infobox. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Horses With Angel Wings! Apart from advices above I'd suggest you to look how it is done in some already existing pages on similar subjects. --CiaPan (talk) 11:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Oh! so it is called an infobox. May be this is why I couldn't find it. Thanks a lot for advice. I'll go through all of that.Horses With Angel Wings (talk) 11:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


I wanna create an article as a biography. Then let me know to do it with delegation article within a minutes — Preceding unsigned comment added by PartapSBimrah (talkcontribs) 13:50, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, PartapSBimrah and welcome to the Teahouse. I have no idea what you mean by "with delegation article within a minutes". But if you want to have a go at the difficult task of writing a Wikipedia article, then please start by studying Your first article. My personal view is that not only will it help you to write an article if you spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles before you try, but you will also probably be adding more value to Wikipedia in that way. --ColinFine (talk) 14:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


I know that an editor's userspace can be redirected to their talk page, but can their talk page be redirected to their userspace? Goveganplease (talk) 19:27, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

@Goveganplease: I would think that would be inadvisable, as your user talk page is meant for others to be able to communicate with you. Some notifications are also automatically posted there. 331dot (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
@Goveganplease: Wikipedia:User pages#Categories, templates that add categories, and redirects says: "User talk pages should not redirect to anything other than the talk page of another account controlled by the same user." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
No: Folks must be able to put info templates etc. on your talk page, but generally they are not supposed to edit your user page (unless there are obvious bugs, e.g., categories not designed for user pages.) You're still free to "archive" your talk page whenever you wish, there are several ways to manage this (incl. manual methods not requiring archive bots.) – (talk) 15:00, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Creating a new page the same time as someone else

Hi, all, I'm here to ask a question about creating a page that may already be in the process of being created by someone else. The page I've created is for a sportsperson who is not yet notable because he has't debuted, although he is likely to debut in a couple of months. Seeing how he'll be notable at a certain time, does it mean it's somewhat of a 'race' to submit my page or do editors give it some time to collaborate other drafts?

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItChEE40 (talkcontribs) 00:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@ItChEE40: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Users can collaborate on drafts, but even if many do, there is nothing to prevent another uninvolved party from creating the same article first. 331dot (talk) 00:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello, ItChEE40. I would like to advise you not to do this: not because somebody else is doing it, but because I believe this is the wrong way to go about writing an article. I think you realise that an article will not be accepted until the subject is notable; but I don't think you appreciate the whole of the reason for this. Every single piece of information in a Wikipedia article should come from a reliable published source: not from what you, I, or any random person on the internet know; not from social media; and, mostly, not from what the subject or their friends or associates say. If a subject is not yet notable (in the way Wikipedia uses the word) then by definition there is not enough information reliably published to ground an article. If you start writing an article before a subject is notable, then I have to ask where is the information coming from that you are putting into your draft? Once the subject does become notable (which might be when they debut, if they make enough of a splash that several independent commentators choose to write about them, but probably will be considerably later) you may find that the material published about them which will be the only material acceptable as the basis of the article will be rather different from what you have already written, and your draft may have to be completely rewritten. From your use of the word "race", I suspect that you think that it is important to get an article up as quickly as possible: it isn't. (It might be from the subject's point of view, but that is not of importance to Wikipedia, since promotion in all forms is forbidden here. Please see DEADLINE.)
I'm sorry if this comes over as negative, but I don't want you wasting your time going down a path that may be fruitless. --ColinFine (talk) 10:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
If you're looking for a to some degree protected place you can create a sub-page of your user page. A better idea might be a draft, because it's by definition open for contributions by other editors, and as long as nobody clicks on "submit" it can violate WP:CRYSTAL temporarily (until you are sure that your crystal ball worked as expected.)
Ask again when ready, the final Special:MovePage is technically simple, but might require help by folks with more rights (e.g., in theory a move without leaving a redirect from the old place requires admin rights, in practice you can suggest a speedy delete for the old place with reason "left over from page move" or similar.) – (talk) 15:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Italian account — forgetful issue or security issue?

Hi! I am a long-time, infrequent editor here at English Wikipedia. Today I got an email from Italian Wikipedia because someone at had put a friendly “welcome newcomer” on my user page over there. But I don’t remember ever signing up over there (and the Katsam over there hasn’t made edits).

The most likely explanation is that I made the account and forgot about it — I do speak some Italian - but I just wanted to check in with you guys and make sure this story doesn’t resemble any known hack/phish/whatever.

Thanks Teahouse. Katsam (talk) 05:35, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Katsam. I believe some other language Wikipedias are set up to send out automatic welcome messages to any registered accounts who access their pages for the first time. This has happened to me before when I've looked at an article on one of the non-English Wikipedias. I think it might have something to do with WP:SUL. If you've set your preferences to receive email or global notifications, then that might explain you getting the email. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:54, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Wait. That bot left a ton of messages, each signed by a different name. Something is wrong. Do we have a steward on this page, or an it-wiki administrator? Cullen328, do you have someone like that in your Rolodex? Drmies (talk) 05:55, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
    • Drmies, I am quite disgustingly monolingual although I have dabbled with attempting to study other languages such as German, Spanish, French and Hebrew. So, I occasionally look at articles in those languages with the help of Google Translate. I remember looking at a Portuguese article a few years back and being besieged by notifications in that language. But the only "bosses" I know are former ArbCom members here on English Wikipedia. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:03, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
    • Drmies, that's done purposefully. It pulls from the list of names here which can only be edited by admins. See it:Wikipedia:Benvenuto_Bot#Richiedenti for non-admins requests to be on the list. Basically, it welcomes people with the signature of an active, experienced user rather than the bot. Vermont (talk) 11:04, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
      • Thanks, Vermont--I could not have guessed that. Drmies (talk) 15:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Amusingly, a few hours after I clicked a link in this discussion, I got a message from the same bot. Anyway, there's a page seemingly associated with the bot (it:Wikipedia:Benvenuto_Bot/Firme) with a list of usernames—I'm guessing (with 0 Italian knowledge) that that's a list of users who are willing to help new users, and the bot sends welcomes in their name. Gaelan 💬✏️ 09:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Sounds like a good guess. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it is indeed....many other-language Wikipedias leave automated welcome messages (I think I got one in Thai once) when you just go on a page over there and look at it (no need to edit at all). Seems the Italians try to be a tad more friendly and have linked Users who signed up for it to the welcoming bot. Lectonar (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
More: I think one can see where one is "registered" via Special:CentralAuth...just plop your username in. Lectonar (talk) 10:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
User:Katsam: In it-wiki, as like as many other language Wikis, there are bots used to welcome new users, even who auto-create their account by SUL. It's a kind gesture from IT community to new users.
At the end of the welcome-message there is a sign randomly picked up from it:Wikipedia:Benvenuto_Bot/Firme. It is a protected page where only administrators can add new signatures by the users' own proposal; in this way we are sure to get trusted signatures, who will surely be able to give indications to new users. --.avgas 10:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Please advise me HOW I ‘Apply the Creative Commons license’ to images I wish to accompany my proposed page/s for a new entry on Wikipedia's ‘List of South African women artists’…

Italic text — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Desmond (talkcontribs) 01:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

For more details about my proposed page/s for new entry on ‘List of South African women artists’, see my UserTalk:′Help Me!′ page. David Desmond (talk) 02:39, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, David Desmond. I am not an expert here, and I may have misunderstood; but I have a feeling that you have also misunderstood. In order to upload pictures to Wikimedia Commons, the pictures must be either public domain, or have been released by the copyright holder under a suitable licence, typically CC-BY-SA. I take it that the pictures we are talking about are not in the public domain - if they are (probably by reason of their age) you can simply upload them and choose that option. Otherwise, Wikimedia Commons requires a statement from the copyright owner that they are released under a suitable licence. Unless they are your own work (which they presumably are not) you are not capable of making this statement. There are then two cases: if the owner has made a public declaration (for example on their website) that they are licensed in a suitable manner, then you can upload them, and refer to that declaration. Otherwise the owners themselves need to communicate with Wikimedia to assert that they have released them: see donating copyright materials.
One further point: not all CC licences are the syame. Wikimedia Commons requires a licence that permits reuse for any purpose (including commercial) and the creation of derivative works. Some CC licences permit this (such as CC-BY-SA) but others don't.
If you have further questions, I suggest that commons:Help desk is a better place to ask than here. --ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
As noted above, there's no THE CC licence, there are six current combos, everything including NC (non-commercial) or ND (no derivatives) is unsuited for Commons, only CC-BY (by attribution) and CC-BY-SA (BY + share alike) are allowed. And of course CC0 (public domain designation supported by CC if you are the photgrapher etc., but you are not, based on the info on your talk page.)
After that fails enwiki offers a Plan B, "fair use" as defined in US-law, not exactly the same concept as in UK or AU law, but the enwiki servers are in the US: The person must be dead, otherwise you'd be supposed to get a free photo of the living person. The photo must be required to illustrate the article (you found no free photo elsewhere) and "lo-fi", e.g., over 2 MB source JPEG scaled down to under 1 MB. Once you have that you can use Special:Upload and fill out a "fair use rationale". It's actually simple, I got it right in my 1st attempt, and failed in my 2nd attempt, because the 2nd female engineer wasn't dead, and I didn't plan a trip to the UAE to take a photo.Face-smile.svg84.46.53.0 (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Correcting a draft


I would need to edit a draft article to make it less commercial -like. I would be happy to comply - just not quite sure which parts would need editing..

Would be most thankful for any instructions on this :)

Thank you in advance for all help with this.

Here is the draft: — Preceding unsigned comment added by JNPNiemi (talkcontribs) 11:26, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Read WP:COI just in case, and fix the issues in the rejected draft as you see fit. Don't submit it too soon again, it really upsets folks if something they considered as "not notable" or "spam" pops up in their review queue again without major improvements. Apparently WP:NORUSH is the base law of AfC (Articles for Creation). – (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


I am asking how to make drafts not drafts and actual articles. The drafts are — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scurvy G (talkcontribs) 12:25, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Add {{Draft article}} at the very begin of your drafts, and save. Read what the template says, and if you think you've done what is expected click on "submit" displayed by this template. You can continue to improve your drafts after submission. – (talk) 16:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Company page refused

Hello and thanks for your help.

I noticed my company Deminor was mentioned in articles like

Parmalat bankruptcy timeline
Fortis (finance)

but all without any additional information.

So I created a 10 lines article Deminor about the company but it was rejected.

I don't want a marketing page just a few words and a link to our website


Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisluy (talkcontribs) 16:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Chrisluy. I see you have complied with our mandatory paid editing disclosure. Thank you. Your draft is unreferenced and cannot possibly accepted in its current state. Please read and study Your first article and bring your draft up to the standards described there, before resubmitting it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:50, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Delete user

I want user "Bismark55" deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bismark55 (talkcontribs) 14:20, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bismark55. Accounts cannot be deleted. See Wikipedia:Username policy#Deleting and merging accounts Abelmoschus Esculentus (talkcontribs) 14:23, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
@Bismark55: What that means is that you need do nothing, but simply walk away. Nobody will know you were ever here. Sorry you've decided you dont want to contribute to building this encyclopaedia, though. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
@Bismark55: your account was created yesterday and this is the only edit you have made. Are you referring to a previous account name that you used to edit under? MarnetteD|Talk 05:01, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
If you want to block your account you can randomise the password after making sure that there is no working mail address for a reset password attempt. If you want to hide your user + talk pages move them twice, 1st to a sub-page of your user/talk page, then to another sub-page of your user/talk page, then blank the original user/talk page and the 1st user/talk sub-page, and put a "speedy delete author request" on the original user/talk page. This doesn't disable, e.g., Special:Contributions/Bismark55.
There's also a WP:LEAVE global policy on Meta:Right to vanish, but that requires the help of a bureaucrat, and gets you in trouble if you ever decide to create a new account, for no obvious advantage.
It should be also obvious that the WikiMedia ideas about this are in conflict with any EU privacy laws in the last decades, IANAL, ask a lawyer if you're up to no good. I've tested the two-step + randomise procedure in 2006, and I'm testing the just don't log-in procedure since April 2016, WP:WNCAA is not funny. – (talk) 16:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
EU laws are not binding on any aspect of WikiMedia located in the United States. 331dot (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Cogital page - factual inaccuracies

Hi there, I was just wondering how to update some of the facts on the cogital page? I am a part of their PR team from the company Celicourt Communications.

The changes that need to be made are:

1. change from cogital to CogitalGroup (one-word)

2. the subsiduaries include Azets, Wilkins Kennedy, Blick Rothenburg, Campbell Dallas

3. CogitalGroup are an 'international business services group' rather than British ....

4. The founding partner and former CEO of Deloitte held the positions of Deloitte global Managing Director between 2003 and 2007. Then he was made Deloitte global chairman between 2007 and 2011.

5. Cogital group has 6,000+ staff, 175 offices and 90,000 clients

Please let me know how I can arrange for the page to be updated and include this information as opposed to the current one. Thank you so much and I look forward to hearing from you. All the best,

Jemima — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

The place to propose changes is at Talk:Cogital. You need to support your request with references to published reliable sources independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:10, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Of more concern is the complete lack of any independent sources to establish notability. Theroadislong (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Article name has been moved to CogitalGroup. Visitors searching for Cogital will be redirected. David notMD (talk) 17:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

deleting wiki page

once a wiki page is created on someone, can that page be deleted or taken down; and how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:06, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, an article may be deleted if it meets the criteria. Please see WP:DELETE to learn what the criteria is. It also explains how to request a deletion, if an article qualifies. Desertborn (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
For IPs like you + me, i.e., users without account or not logging in, I recommend to start with cleanup templates for two or three obvious issues. If nothing happened after about a year, or if there were already very old cleanup templates, check on the talk page if there was already an old deletion request or proposed deletion. If not check out {{PROD}}, it works like a charm on very old hopeless stubs.
Of course you are supposed to do something to improve the article, just proposing deletion based on, say, missing references with no obvious attempt to find references isn't good enough. The magic word for this might be WP:BEFORE, and it's one of those things where I'm "sure" what it is without ever reading it.
If "on someone" is a living person the WP:BLP rules are very strict, Copyvio (copy+paste from external sources) is also something where you can shoot first and ask questions later.Face-tongue.svg84.46.53.0 (talk) 17:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

COI - Editing Incorrect Information


I am wondering what to do when there is incorrect information on a Wiki page for a company that I work for. We are trying to remedy the incorrect facts on the page, but our edits either get rejected, or they're accepted and edited incorrectly in a short period of time. What do companies do with their incorrect information if this happens to them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:26, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

You can use the article's talk page to propose changes, but you need to support the proposals with references to published reliable sources independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
You must also comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 17:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Art Rease

Good day Gents

I created a profile about my grandfather, i also created a similar profile at imdb webpage, and when i tried to complete it here it was rejected automatically by bot (or marked) and rejected by Dan Aart. Could you please help with this issue? THanks in advance.

@Tigresj: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft has no independent reliable sources in it to support its content and indicate that he meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability for actors, written at WP:NACTOR. It seems like he might, but you need the sources. While I believe you, we cannot simply accept any user's word on anything, as verifiability is an important principle of Wikipedia. Don't feel discouraged, successfully writing a new article is probably the hardest thing to do here. Please read Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 17:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
  • not a gent...s'ok. Best Regards, Barbara 17:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Question about pronouns in service award templates

Hi Teahouse team,

I have a question about the default pronoun options in the Wikipedia:Service awards templates. I realise they're an opt-in, fun way to self-commemorate one's achievements, and can be very encouraging!

In the template I used on my userpage, it defaults to the text "...he or she..." - is this something I'm able to alter? If the pronoun "they" were the default instead, it would read much more clearly and not have a binary gender stipulation. Or, instead of a single change, is this something that I could ask about applying to the template as a whole?

Thank you for your time and advice. Best wishes, SunnyBoi (talk) 12:29, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@SunnyBoi: Template:Service_award_progress has some instructions for how to override the default pronouns in the template. It looks like you add the parameter genderoverride and then specify your pronoun. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 13:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
(e/c) Hey SunnyBoi. Per {{Service award progress}}'s documentation, it has the parameter |genderoverride=. Unfortunately, though whatever you insert there will replace the default "he or she", it does not have a parameter to understand that if "they" is the override set, then "needs" must change to "need" to keep the text grammatical. That is, if you use, say, she as the override, it then states: "...she needs to meet the editing requirement", but if you use they, you get the ungrammatical: "...they needs to meet the editing requirement" (uggh). I'm sure someone better at template coding than I am could fix that. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:54, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@SunnyBoi: I've made an alternate version, User:A lad insane/Gender neutral service award progress that you can use. It's probably not perfect, but I'm pretty sure it works. -A lainsane (Channel 2) 22:27, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello @Bonadea: @Fuhghettaboutit: @A lad insane:, thank you so much for your help! I’m sorry I missed the genderoverride tag. That is tricky about the “…needs to meet the editing requirement” making grammatical issues.
Thank you -A lainsane for the alternate template! I am drafting an update with it, but it seems to be cementeed on the next level of the award (remaining at 4000 editing requirement as the next hurdle), but that could be because I’m not updating the right information. I appreciate you making this, I’m hopeful that I can figure out how to change the service level so that it can apply to my shorter editing history :) Thank you again! --SunnyBoi (talk) 09:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
@SunnyBoi: You're welcome :) and I think I've got it to a place where it works; {{User:A lad insane/Gender neutral service award progress||year=2017|month=1|day=30|edits=1210}} should do it, at least it worked in my sandbox. I've filled in your information based on the editcount tool. -A lainsane (Channel 2) 16:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
There's a {{pronoun}} template that fetches the specified user's preferred pronouns. Maybe the award templates should transclude it. Qzekrom (talk) 18:03, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

How to delete a javascript page i created in my sandbox subpage ?

How to delete a javascript page i created in my sandbox subpage --Rocky 734 (talk) 18:06, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I cannot see any javascript pages listed in your user subpages. If there were, you could tag it with {{Db-userreq}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Internet Archive "site can't be reached"

What's up with the Internet Archive? It's been producing the error message "site can't be reached" for a long time. --Espoo (talk) 11:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Espoo: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This board is for asking questions about editing or using Wikipedia; we can't speak to why another site might not be working. You might try the Reference Desk. 331dot (talk) 11:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
@Espoo: It's something on your side, or your ISP. Internet Archive works for me, also and confirm is up. --CiaPan (talk) 11:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
The reason i asked here is because is one of the most important tools used by Wikipedia editors. So i figured someone here would also know the answer to my question or a solution to the problem, both of which would probably take much longer to get straight from the website. At least i got the hint to look and try to find the solution on my device.
In case someone else runs into this problem, one or all of these steps were required to fix the problem in Chrome on Android: 1) turn off dater saver 2) go to site settings > all sites > search for "archive" and remove all permissions and settings for all sites containing --Espoo (talk) 15:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
I went to, the main page of the Internet Archive, and it is working again. Since I see you have both posted on the same date as I have, I suggest actually looking at your internet and Wi-Fi and check if it is working. :::If it still does that, then I think it is loading a website that might also be dead. TheSmartPersonUS1 (TSPUS1) (talk) 03:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I don't really understand what you're saying (especially with "Since I see you have both posted on the same date as I have"), but apparently you didn't understand what i said either :) What i tried to say is that i fixed the problem by adjusting the settings of Android Chrome as described above. And i didn't have a problem with any other website. --Espoo (talk) 18:53, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@Espoo: try this steps for android. 1) go to your WI-FI in the settings 2) Hold on the WIFI that your connected to unit a box appears 3) then click on "manage network settings" 4) scroll down unit you see dns1, then delete the dns and type "" 5) Then scroll down to dns2, then delete the dns and type "", now click save. 6) close everything even chrome tabs than that should've fix the problem. --___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, i'll try that if i need it, but as i wrote above, i fixed the problem by adjusting the settings of Android Chrome as described above. And i didn't have a problem with any other website. --Espoo (talk) 19:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

San Fernando Valley Amateur Boxing Competition

Sergio "Checho" Gonzales Irias — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elite818Boxing (talkcontribs) 19:35, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Question. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Started a page, and am only serious editor on it. Can someone check/edit my work?

Having attended the annual arts fair in Carbondale, CO called Mountain Fair multiple years in a row, and seeing it had no page on Wikipedia about it, despite being a popular event compared to the areas population, I decided to make a page for it. Presentlty, I am one of only three people to have edited the page, and the only one who has edited it more then a few times. I've been working on the page for a few months now, and have a decent page created. However, I have had extremely little amount of people editing my work, and I want to make sure it is all good, grammatically correct and is in proper Wikipedia page style for a page about an annual fair. Could someone check out the page Mountain Fair, check if you think it needs any editing and if so make those edits? Also note, that I definitely think it is an annual fair that is worthy of a page on Wikipedia. This is because it has had tons of news coverage from local newspapers and news sources over the years, and there is plenty of sources to use to back up information used in the article. Greshthegreat (talk) 19:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Greshthegreat: If at least three of the reliable sources cited are specifically and primarily about the festival but not affiliated with nor dependent upon it (which seems to be the case from the casual glance I took at it), it will probably survive. I've seen some deletion cases in the past that hinged on all the coverage being local, though. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:47, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Protection Of Newly Created Drafts

How to protect your newly created drafts from vandalism, Beacause Creating anything in this world requires time and patience but when unnecessarily some new editors try to spoil your hardwork by toppling in With nonsense doesn’t left good impression and doesn’t inspire to work again or contribute again.

Warm Regards Jenifer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenifer Intiha (talkcontribs) 19:04, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Drafts are the same as other pages, in that if there is evidence of repeated vandalism you can go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
I looked at the drafts you've worked on, and neither of them seem to have been vandalized. That being said, if you do find that a draft (or any article) has been vandalized, every version of an article is archived. So you can get your version back by going to the "view history" tab in the top right of the page and clicking "undo" on the vandalizing edit. If there have been multiple edits, the process is a little more complicated: click the date on the version you would like to go back to, then click "edit" at the top of the page and save. Gaelan 💬✏️ 19:39, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
@Jenifer Intiha: May I politely just add that it would be preferable to wait before adding the names of new notable alumni into articles until those draft pages have been created and accepted here? Wikipedia doesn't generally regard any person as notable until they have a page here, though I thank you for including a citation, and wish you luck with your editing. I've added a welcome message to your talk page which mentions the "Women in Red" project that you might be interested in. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


I have put more references in Draft:Meteorite so how do I submit it? ScurvyG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scurvy G (talkcontribs) 21:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

You can submit it for review at Articles for Creation which you can do by pasting {{subst:submit}} (with the double curly brackets) at the top of the draft. However, if you submit to AfC it will be declined, as none of the references meet Wikipedia standards. Not the band's website, not GDPC (their record label), not YouTube, not BandLab. Can you find published refs at which the band has been written about in a significant way? David notMD (talk) 21:36, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, Scurvy G. You can submit your draft by pasting {{subst:submit}} (with the double curly brackets) at the top. But don't bother yet, as it will certainly not be accepted. Not one of the five references is an independent, reliable source. Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything said or published by the subject, their friends, relations, employers, employees, producers, publicists, or associates. What you need is places where people who have no connection whatever with the band have chosen to write about the band at some length, and been published somewhere with a reputation for editorial control and fact-checking, such as a major newspaper or a reputable publisher. If you cannot find such sources, then the band are by definition not notable in the way Wikipedia uses the word, and working on the draft is a waste not only of your own time, but that of anybody who has to review it. The same is true, by the way, of Draft:GDPC music hall of fame: Wikipedia is only interested if people unconnected with it have chosen to write about it. --ColinFine (talk) 21:52, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
FWIW, and to save others time, I did a quick search and can't find anything resembling third independent coverage. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

List of programs broadcast by Universal Kids

Hey guys, I'm sorry for editing some articles on Wikipedia yesterday. I didn't know what happened a bunch of times. So, could you please get them back to the List of programs broadcast by Universal Kids page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enrique94834 (talkcontribs)

...and gals, don't forget! ... Hi Enrique94834, welcome to the Teahouse. I'm a bit unclear what you're asking. The page you mention appears to have been protected by Lectonar because of disruptive editing (though for some reason the 'protected' icon isn't showing), and some of that appears to have happened after you contributed there, but I see you were warned last month about contributing hoax content. I'm completely unfamiliar with the topic, and without wading through huge numbers of edits it's hard for me to work out what exactly you mean. Just be careful in future only to add content that you can prove is reliable. If you feel that errors remain in the article, would you please raise this on the article's talk page? It has 46 editors watching it, so you're bound to get a reply there. Sorry this isn't more helpful. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


is it considered edit warring if I tag a userpage as a u5 or a g11 and the user keeps removing the tag, and I revert it? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 00:56, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Thegooduser. It depends on if the user removing the speedy tag is or is not the creator of the page. A creator is not permitted to remove the speedy tag. Revert as many times as necessary, while warning with the escalating template warning series, {{Uw-speedy1}}, {{Uw-speedy2}}, {{Uw-speedy3}} and {{Uw-speedy4}}. 3RR is irrelevant as to this. If the removal happens after the last in the series, report for a block at WP:AIV. Generally speaking, good faith removals of speedy tags by non-creators makes speedy deletion controversial, i.e., no longer appropriate, and thus the page should be taken for consideration on the merits at an XfD discussion forum. However, this does not include blatant copyright violations, attack pages and obvious vandalism. This means, of course, that for a U5 or G11, if the removal is by a non-creator, and not in bad faith, you should not be reverting that. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:21, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Film Archives

Would someone please add the Black Film Center at to the "Lists of film archives". — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:01, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi. We don't usually add entries in list articles if there isn't an existing, stand-alone article on the subject to link to. You'll note that every entry at Lists of film archives is linked to an existing article. Where we do include a red link, it must be clear that an article is warranted but just hasn't been created yet, such as through pointing to reliable, secondary, independent sources treating the topic in substantive detail, that could be used to support the notability of such an article, and to add verifiable content. Doing so here would require some leg work-- to look for sources and cite them and the burden of doing that is on the person wishing to add it, which is you. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:54, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

My company has acquired a company and I need to update the title of the article

hello team,

we have acquired Console Connect Inc and now the article should read Console Connect by PCCW Global. I am new to wikipedia and I can not find how to update this part.

Many thanks!

Regards, Rosa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rizg (talkcontribs) 14:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Rizg: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. First, I would ask that you review and comply with the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy. (I'll also post this information on your user talk page.) Once you do, then you may visit Requested Moves to request that the relevant article be moved to a new title. 331dot (talk) 14:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Rizg. It is vanishingly unlikely the name you are proposing will be accepted as appropriate under our article title naming policy. This blended name is non-standard in form; not suitably concise; over-precise; not the common name, and, though WP:NAMECHANGES has bearing here, the name as proposed is unlikely to ever be used in the mouthful as presented, but even if it were, the change in name has just happened so even if reliable sources follow suit, that will not have happened yet. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:12, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

How to publish my page that i created

I have a created a page.but it still not publish.i wanna know why like that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Januka Rajapakshe (talkcontribs) 07:06, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Januka Rajapakshe Hi Welocome to Teahouse. I believe you were referring to this article here in your sandbox - User:Januka Rajapakshe/sandbox. Pls note that there article has yet to be submitted for review for such it is yet to be published. Since your user name is the same as the subject of your article, which means you have a conflict of interest here to write the article about yourself which is highly discourage by Wikipedia - pls see WP:Autobiography as it is difficult to achieve neutral point of view and balance of content. To write an article pls go to - Article Wizard. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:20, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

/* In lead role */

which type of sources are reliable? Can i create a page for a person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudeboy7 (talkcontribs) 09:40, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Dudeboy7 Hi Welcome to Teahouse. For sources types, pls see HERE. Not sure what lead role you were refereing to, if the subject is an actor/actress - pls see the notability requirement here - WP:NACTOR. Pls read WP:Your First Article and referencing on how to write an article and provide inline citations. You can use Article Wizard to write your article]. Pls note subject of the article need to be notable and content need to be supported by significant coverage of independent, reliable sources - see Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:52, 20 February 2019 (UTC)