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How can you get the biggest fans? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bestman04 (talkcontribs) 12:41, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bestman04, welcome to Wikipedia and to the Teahouse. I'm afraid you haven't given us enough information to properly understand your question. Do you want to edit The Biggest Fan, Biggest Fan, or Biggest Fan (Chris Brown song) - or something else? None of those pages are protected in a way that would stop you, as a very new user with only 8 edits and 5 days here, from editing them. Other pages here do have what we call "semi-protection" so until you reach that very low editing bar (known as Auto-confirmed) you'd be unable to modify them (Just look for a padlock icon in the upper top right of an article to see if it has any form of protection.
None of those linked above do. So, the more you can help us understand what it that you want to achieve, the more we can help you. Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 13:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Listing articles which have two categories

I'm sure this should be really obvious, but I can't see it ... would somebody be so kind as to point me in the right direction? How can I find articles which have two categories? For example, today I want to find stubs in the area of New England (New South Wales). I can look up the list of towns in category:Towns in New England (New South Wales), or I can look up stubs at the state level at Category:New South Wales geography stubs. What I want is the intersection of those two lists, so I can see stubs in that region. Thoughts, please? --Gronk Oz (talk) 05:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Gronk Oz Your question rang a bell with me, and luckily I maintain a list of useful tools on my userpage which I've encountered in the past. There I have listed which I think might suit your purpose. It yielded 23 results see here). Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
@Gronk Oz: You can also use incategory: twice in our search box: incategory:"Towns in New England (New South Wales)" incategory:"New South Wales geography stubs". PrimeHunter (talk) 10:35, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Nick Moyes and PrimeHunter - Thank you! Smile.gif Those are going straight into my personal Cheat Notes.--Gronk Oz (talk) 15:35, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
You're welcome! I wasn't aware myself that one can combine two category searches together on-wiki. So much still to learn here - so little time ...! Nick Moyes (talk) 15:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


Hi, Does someone need to be extended confirmed to become an administrator? Note that I am not interested in becoming an administrator right now, but I think that it is good for me to know, if I want to become one sometime. Catinthedogs (talk) 14:37, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, theoretically, no: The English Wikipedia has no official requirements to become an administrator. Anyone can request adminship ("RFA") from the community, regardless of their Wikipedia experience. But yes, absolutely. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:44, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
@Catinthedogs: Welcome to the Teahouse. To be WP:EXTENDEDCONFIRMED an account simply has to be over 30 days old and have made 500 edits, which is actually a pretty small amount of commitment to the project if we are talking about someone eventually becoming an administrator. My expectation would be that it would take ten to twenty times that amount of numerical commitment before our broad community of editors felt anyone had even got near approaching a point of gaining sufficiently broad experience across all our key policies, guidelines and ways of working and dealing with issues to be granted the role of administrator. That's not said to put you off in any way, shape or form. I love the fact that you've thought about it and took the trouble to ask.
So now you have the next few years in which to come to grips with editing and how this utterly amazing multi-faceted website operates though volunteer collaboration. So, maybe three or four years time, after some pretty active contributing, the next 'optional' step to assess that readiness could be to put for an editor to put their name forward for an optional RfA poll - a helpful overview of an editor's strengths/weaknesses and likely chances of a full 7-day Request for Adminship being successful or not. Quite often, users who have got themselves noticed through their competent editing and understanding and application of policies may get approached by an existing admin and asked whether they'd consider becoming an administrator one day, and maybe get offered a few pointers of things to work on before standing. And then, if they do gain admin permissions, all they'll have become is glorified janitors in The Matrix, going round helping and mopping up the mess and problems that others in this virtual world have created! I'm not saying that admins are a dying breed, but Wikipedia has been losing more admins than it appoints in recent years. So it is great to see the next generation of editors looking ahead and wondering what's involved in the maintenance of this wonderful encyclopaedia. Good luck on your own journey here. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:58, 23 March 2019 (UTC)    

Can I name a character of a show in the cast if I do not know yet who has played them

Can I name a character in the cast section of any show, if right now I don't know who is the person who played that character. This way, the name of the actor/actress can later be added. King Armaan 17 (talk) 17:07, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@King Armaan 17: Welcome to the Teahouse, your majesty. I'd say, 'yes,' so long as there are sources that show that the character's name does actually play a part in the programme. It's important not to put anything into an article that you happen to know, if you haven't got that information from somewhere else - a programme listing, for example. But we do seem to allow a lot of leeway with TV programmes which (in my personal view) tend to be far, far too long and far too detailed, yet all based off editors' experiences of watching the programme, rather than more succinct content based on articles about those programme (film and TV reviews, etc). Hope this helps. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:15, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. That is exactly why I said that, since in a TV programme new characters get introduced, and therefore it is no harm if their names are added, since the actor/actress who played them can be later added. King Armaan 17 (talk) 08:09, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

@King Armaan 17: As per WP:TVCAST not every character deserves to be listed as per notability. So unless you don't have a reliable source to add a character without cast name or cast name without character name you can't add it. I would suggest you to read MOS:TV carefully as your edits on Chandragupta Maurya (2018 TV series) are not according to the guidelines, appropriate way to split the cast listing by "Main" and "Recurring" cast or characters and classification right now of cast section is a classic example of WP:OTHERSTUFF which violates WP:TVCAST. Sid95Q (talk) 15:59, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft: MIT Vishswashanti Gurukul Declined

What shall I do to get it accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garimakand (talkcontribs) 14:58, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Garimakand. What you need to do to get your draft accepted is to find places where people who have no connection with the school have chosen to write about it at some length, and been published in reliable places. Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything said about the school, by its employees or associates. All the current references are either mere listings, or derived from the school's own press releass. Please read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:06, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Kashmir Observer

Why this page is not being accepted or created as it's one of the well known and oldest newspaper in Jammu and Kashmir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sufi519 (talkcontribs)

Hello, Sufi519. Welcome. I am not an adminstrator, so cannot see the deleted articles, but it appears that you have made three rather bad attempts in very quick succession at creating an article about this newspaper. And each time it was pointed out to you on your talk page that you had done so in an an inappropriate, and clearly promotional manner, possibly with a Conflict of Interest. As a result of you failing to listen to the advice you received - and repeatedly recreating it - a decision was then made by administrators to block any further attempt at you or anyone else creating a page under this title without admin approval. So, I am afraid, you have done that newspaper a disservice.
It will now require an administrator to approve any further attempt at creating this page. So, any editor now wishing to do so, would have to prepare a draft article which clearly demonstrated (in a neutral and encyclopaedic tone, and based on Reliable Sources) how the Kashmir Observer meets our Notability criteria, and to do this via the Articles for Creation process. I suspect that if you hadn't tried so relentlessly, this task would not now have become so difficult for everyone else. If you are being paid to edit any article here, you have already been advised (see here) of your obligations to declare them before attempting to edit them again. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Sufi519, please read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kashmir Observer which provides more information. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:18, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Need help with page Sam Shockley ( Alcatraz) .

Need help with page Sam Shockley ( Alcatraz) . I am new here. I have a lot of documents from NARA Archive and others, but I think Wikipeadia will not accept my writing (?) I there someone who can help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda texel (talkcontribs) 13:05, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello! These may help: Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Help:Referencing for beginners. And remember not to copypaste from your sources, use your own words. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:49, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

I need Coaching! Some one who can help me and tell me wat I did wrong with this page and help me to get along. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda texel (talkcontribs) 15:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Linda texel. When you add significant new content to a Wikipedia article, you have to provide a reference to a reliable source that verifies what you add. You mention documents from the "NARA archive" which I assume is the National Archives and Records Administration. Whether or not these documents are acceptable as reliable sources depends on whether they were published, or are unpublished government memos. For interested editors, the article is Sam Shockley who was executed for his role in a bloody escape attempt from Alcatraz prison in 1946, called the Battle of Alcatraz. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:47, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


Am chinedu from imo state am a filmmaker — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:29, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

The greatest person ever

Would you tell me about this content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijay dhanoutu (talkcontribs) 04:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Vijay dhanoutu:, if I'm understanding your request correctly, a good place to start may be some of the lists included at Person of the Year. Thank you, caknuck ° needs to be running more often 04:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Or there is Icons: The Greatest Person of the 20th Century, or Ireland's Greatest, or The Greatest American, or Time Person of the Year, or 100 Greatest Britons, or even The Greatest American Hero. @Vijay dhanoutu: can you please be a bit clearer about just which article you are asking about?--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I need to work on my pain relief so I can heal others from pain. I need rest /resources /respect and I will share

I would like to request to visit the teahouses and the team — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:6022:CD00:DC0D:2BB:D869:237E (talk) 04:32, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

This is not possible. The 'Teahouse' exists only virtually, within a website on the internet; it has no physical existence: the 'team' comprises individuals working on the internet from their personal locations around the globe, who interact only via this website; probably no two of them has ever been, or will ever be, in the same place at the same time. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 05:29, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Also, the (virtual) Teahouse is part of the community of Wikipedia editors, and exists to help and encourage people in their work on editing Wikipedia, nothing else. I'm sorry for your pain, but this is not the right place for you to seek help on it. --ColinFine (talk) 10:53, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Complete Revision

How can I go about correcting the entry on me that is completely misleading as to who I am and what I have done? I tried to correct it myself but my submission was rejected. It's clear that I am not experienced with Wikipedia. I read where individuals are discouraged from writing about themselves, but how does one go about correcting misleading information? I'd appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks. (talk) 11:45, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Herakct Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You replaced the article with essentially your resume; Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. If there is incorrect information about you in the article, we want to know what it is. Please make an edit request on the article talk page explaining your concerns and any reliable sources you have to support them(unfortunately we can't just take your word for it, as any user can claim to be anyone). 331dot (talk) 11:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


Hi, when I have to add citations, I think I have to cite web / cite news. Can you please let me know what I have to fill in the fields. I don't understand difference between Date and Access Date. Appreciate your inputs. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talkman45 (talkcontribs) 11:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

"Date" is the date that the source was published, "access date" is the date that you accessed the url to check that the source verifies the text to which it is being applied. Explained at {{cite web}} and {{cite news}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for explaining this David Biddulph. --Talkman45 (talk) 15:18, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Muzammil Ibrahim

i have just re-created a page with the name Muzammil Ibrahim a very famous and popular name Indian cinema and Modelling Industry. which was live for more than 10 years & un-necessarily deleted by some new editor which should be Protected from new users from vandalism and abuse according to the basic norms of wikipedia --Imtiyaz3333 (talk) 13:40, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the page you created (Draft:Muzammil Ibrahim) was a copyright violation so it will have to be deleted. More information on your user talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 13:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Advice on settling a dispute

Hi, I'm not exactly new, but I'm in a dispute with another editor and I was wondering how I should go forward?

I recently rewrote the article Mirza Khizr Sultan due it being almost entirely unsourced and barely comprehensible. An editor, who had previously contributed to the page, quickly restored their personal content. This content went far beyond the scope of the article, and they later implied that they were basing it off their own family traditions. I asked them on their talk page if they could provide references, but they refused, instead intructing me to visit a museum in Turkey and a library in India to prove it for myself. They further mentioned that their "jewellery" is all the proof they need and that "the deep state" was trying to control information. They have since created two more closely related articles in the same vein, with the only reference between them not actually mentioning the topic.

They appear to have stopped responding in the talk page, so I'm not sure if going to Dispute resolution would work. Should I go to the Administrators' noticeboard, or is this too trivial for that? Or do you have any other suggestions? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you. Alivardi (talk) 01:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Alivardi - I don't think that the addition of unsourced information to an article is trivial. I would suggest that you review the dispute resolution policy (again, if you have reviewed it in the past) and follow one of the procedures, such as a report to the edit-warring noticeboard. Since the article is about India, I would suggest also reading the India-Pakistan case and consider the use of Arbitration Enforcement to deal with disruptive editing. I would suggest that you do something, rather than dismissing it as too trivial. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:22, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
User:Robert McClenon: Honesty, I was just worried that the incidents would be deemed too isolated for anyone to care too much. Anyways, I reported it and the Admins took the appropriate actions, so I'm happy. And thanks for the links, they were a huge help! Alivardi (talk) 14:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

My draft, Louwailou

I made a draft for a kind of famous restaurant in Hangzhou called "Louwailou" (楼外楼). But the draft was twice rejected because it read too promotional, contained too few references, and was not notable enough. I didn't think I could improve the article any further, so I got it deleted using a template.

It should be noted however, that there is an article for the restaurant on Chinese and Wu Wikipedia. Since the draft was a translation of the Chinese Wikipedia article (for the most part), it contained the nearly same issues. So I nominated it for deletion on Chinese Wikipedia, here. But if you look at the results (Google Translate if you can't read Chinese), most people there want to keep it.

What makes the Chinese article good and my English draft sub-par? It is unclear. Woshiyiweizhongguoren (talk) 14:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Each language's Wikipedia is independent, and has its own rules. I assume that you intended to link to Draft:Louwailou, as the page Louwailou has never existed? --David Biddulph (talk) 14:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Yes. So what you're saying, Chinese Wikipedia articles can get by with less citations than here? Ah, that makes a lot of sense now, thank you! Woshiyiweizhongguoren (talk) 14:18, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi Woshiyiweizhongguoren and welcome to the Teahouse. That restaurant is very famous and has been going since 1848 (!). It is true that all articles on English WP must have references that demonstrate their notability and verify key assertions about the subject. However, I'm going to leave some links on your talk page to sources that you could use for a draft article on Lou Wai Lou. I strongly suggest you reconsider recreating the draft using those references. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 14:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


What are those boxes on people's user pages that describe themselves, and how do I get them? Woshiyiweizhongguoren (talk) 14:17, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

See WP:Userboxes Rojomoke (talk) 14:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


please tell me if i can get hired as I'm technical and need a fixed monthly income salary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theamanpuri (talkcontribs) 11:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

This is the Wikipedia Teahouse, a place for new users to ask questions about editing Wikipedia. We are all volunteers, no paid jobs, and there is no hiring. Curdle (talk) 15:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for inviting me to the new section of Teahouse.

warm regards & lots Of love --Imtiyaz3333 (talk) 13:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Greetings and friendly wishes from the Teahouse to the world and back. How are you doing today? If you ever have any questions editing or using Wikipedia, ask your question and volunteers will answer as soon as possible. Mstrojny (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

IMPOSSIBLE TO PUBLISH A TRANSLATION : Draft:Lydia (payment on internet)


I wrote the translation of a French article and I can't publish it. Someone could help me with that please ?

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis Hortal (talkcontribs) 12:50, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Louis Hortal. I have added a header to Draft:Lydia (payment on internet) which will allow you to submit the draft for review. One thing I suggest you change before submitting it is the infobox: on en-wiki these are handled by templates: you probably want either {{infobox company}} or {{infobox software}}. --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Editing profile information

In 1984 I formed the McBri Corporation in the State of Florida and was awarded the rights to found and implement the Inaugural St.Petersburg Grand Prix 1985. Other than my copy of the original contract with the City of St.Petersburg, Florida and many newspaper articles, there is no record of my existence as the Founder of this Event. How can I correct this and get it in the record? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macatk1 (talkcontribs) 14:27, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Macatk1, and thanks for pulling in to the Teahouse pitstop with your question. Does it relate to this article: Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg? Whilst Wikipedia can't base content on an individual document held by one person (i.e. not in a formal archive), we love seeing factual content based upon published newspapers. They don't need to be online, but we do need newspaper title, date and (ideally) page number. It's important never to add anything here form purely personal knowledge, but to only use your own form of words to describe what a newspaper says. If you have that kind of source, then the best bet for you as a newcomer is to go to the article talk page and request that someone edits the article. It helps if you suggest the exact form of rewording you would like to see, and the full citation of the newspaper upon which it is based. There can then be a discussion between editors on the best way to proceed, especially on its relevance to the topic. For more info, see Wikipedia:Edit requests, and don't forget to mention your personal involvement as you've done here (we call this a Conflict of interest) which we welcome being made clear to everyone. Does this help? Nick Moyes (talk) 17:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Macatk1, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure what you are asking. If you are asking for something to be added to an existing article, the best place to ask is the Talk page of that article, with a published reference. For something like that, a newspaper article is probably adequate, though that depends on a number of factors. You should definitely not add it yourself, though, as you have a conflict of interest; but if you add {{edit request}} to your request, somebody will see it and decide what edit is appropriate.
If you are asking about creating an article, then, first I would point out that Wikipedia does not contain profiles. Not one. Not even of Jimmy Wales. What it contains is neutrally written articles about notable subjects (by Wikipedia's definition). The subject of an article has, at most, a very limited role in the creation and maintenence of the article. The newspaper articles you refer to might be enough to establish you and/or the Corporation as notable in Wikipedia's sense: it depends on how reliable those particular newspapers are regarded as, how substantial their pieces were, and whether those pieces were independent of you and the corporation (as opposed to being based on an interview or press release). If these references do not meet the criteria for notability, then no article about you will be accepted, however (and by whoever) it is written. If they do establish you as notable then we could have an article about you, though you are discouraged from writing it (and in any case, writing an acceptable article is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia). It is possible that you could find somebody interested in writing such an article, but there is no guarantee - remember that Wikipedia is entirely edited by volunteers who work on what they choose. You might find somebody at WikiProject Formula One who is interested. --ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Changing Title of my article

The article i am trying to construct is showing User:MyUserName How do i fix that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wardahk09 (talkcontribs) 14:34, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I see that on your user talk page there is an explanation that your Draft:Anjan Chowdhury was deleted as being a copyright violation, and the deletion log shows that User:Wardahk09 was deleted for the same reason. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia

Hello. I am trying to move my Sandbox article to Wikipedia so it is live. How can I do this? I am new to this so please help. Appreciate it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnye1975 (talkcontribs) 20:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Johnnye1975, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. Once you have made ten edits to Wikipedia (you have made 5 so far) you will have the ability to move articles. It will be possible for you to move User:Johnnye1975/sandbox to main space - but if you do so, it will probably be deleted, because it has no references at all. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and in order to have any sort of authority, it doesn't accept information just because you (or I, or any random person on the Internet) knows it and says it is so: we require that every single piece of information in an article be found in an already published source; and it is desirable, and in some cases obligatory, that the source of every piece of information be cited.
This is why creating a new article is one of the hardest tasks on Wikipedia, and why I always recommend new users to spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles before they even try writing a new one.
My suggestion is that you leave your draft for a while and explore how to work with Wikipedia: when you're ready to pick it up again, have a look at your first article. I've put some helpful links on your user talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 10:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I appreciate it. I am not sure what you meant by saying that my article has no references at all. I put a ton of references in there. Can you explain to me exactly what you mean? I am new to this and from what I am experiencing so far it is not easy for a beginner to understand all of this easily. Is there a way for someone to help me find references? Or do I have to do this myself? I linked a bunch of text up in the article as well as add numerous links for reference in the Reference section. Google links, Billboard links etc. I added some images to the article via upload through Wikimedia Commons and seems like I am getting a lot of deletion messages and I am not sure why. I had one album cover added on the article and from what I am understanding is that you can not put album covers on there? If that is the case then how do you reference an album if it is not on Wikipedia already? I'm really confused... I have done a lot of research into creating articles and it seems pretty straight forward but there is not really much I think I can keep adding to this article. If I feel it is complete at this point what do I do?Johnnye1975 (talk) 19:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
You'll find advice about referencing at Help:Referencing for beginners. Less importantly, the bold formatting should be removed from the section headings. Wikipedia will automatically format the headings to comply with the Manual of Style. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

How to locate an archived Teahouse conversation thread.

/* Comments on an article. */ I had a conversation going with a reviewer in this article... but can no longer locate it in the pending conversations. I can search under my user name to find my edits but still unable to locate this conversation in the Teahouse. Thanks, LorriBrown (talk) 18:40, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@LorriBrown: Try (I searched on your username in the 'search archive' box at the top of this page.) As our archives are made in chronological order, the other way is simply to work through the past archives to look for the approximate date of conversations, and then check the table of contents or use a text search. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Postscript: There was also a direct link to it in the automated message on your userpage, telling you it had been archived! Nick Moyes (talk) 19:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Was that link there when I posted this question? If so, I apologize. Also, what would the purpose be for a re-assessment of an article. Curious to know before following up with the reviewer. Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 19:46, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
@LorriBrown: Erm, no, I don't think the message was there then, actually. My bad. But I think what Legacypac was meaning by reassess was that, were you to work to improve the article as previously suggested, he/she would be willing to review it again at WP:AFC and make further observations if you were to re-submit it. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping. If you want a draft to be reviewed again you need to submit it to AfC using the Submit button on the page. Someone will get to it. Legacypac (talk) 20:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: Okay, now I get it. I misunderstood what Legacypac had said. Makes sense now. The article has been re-submitted and is pending review. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Just need more patience with the process - or - a better understanding of the process.LorriBrown (talk) 21:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC) LorriBrown (talk) 21:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Kent Tate resubmitted a while back. David notMD (talk) 21:29, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


Deep raj singh not raichand — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:49, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

It is not clear what you're asking. Can you please be more specific on what it is you need help with? Mstrojny (talk) 18:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
According to the article on actor Arjun Bijlani, he plays a character called "Deep Raichand/Deep Raj Singh" in the Indian TV series Ishq Mein Marjawan, which latter article however mentions only Raichand, not Raj Singh. The OP may be commenting on the text in the actor's article, or making an observation about the series' plot, about which I know nothing beyond what its article says. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 21:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


how to put my wikipedia page in my google search? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptag (talkcontribs) 20:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

User pages are not included in Google searches because they are intended to be a short synopsis of your relationship with Wikipedia.... Please see WP:UP for some more information. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 22:41, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

How many weeks or Months  to approed my biography article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptag (talkcontribs) 00:18, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

If by "my biography article" you mean your current User page, its content is completely inappropriate and likely to be deleted soon. The purpose of your User page is to describe your activities as a Wikipedia editor, not host your autobiography or promote your musical career: User pages are not articles and are not indexed by Google.
I will not pass comment on whether you are sufficiently Notable in Wikipedia's use of the term as to merit an article, but even if you are you should not be the one to write it, as autobiography is strongly disapproved of and almost impossible for anyone to write for themself according to the required standards of NPOV. You could make it a Draft article and see if anyone else is willing to copy edit it so as to be acceptable for Article mainspace. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 21:53, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Is there anything we can do to have someone update an old, outdated Wikipedia page about our organization?


I tried to edit a page about the Oregon Mandolin Orchestra. But I soon was chastised for not following the rules -- my fault. My edits were reverted because I am affiliated with the orchestra and have a conflict of interest. I fully accept this rule and will no longer make any edits.

So now, I am asking these questions again: -- Is there anything that can be done for some disinterested party to do a proper scholarly update on the Oregon Mandolin Orchestra? -- Is there some way to contact earlier contributors and ask them if they are interested in editing the orchestra's entry? Thank you, Oremandos (talk) 19:53, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Oremandos

The creator of Oregon Mandolin Orchestra was User:Aboutmovies, an experienced editor. You could go to that User's Talk page and leave a message, asking if that person could look at what you had added before it was all deleted (it's all still there in View history) to determine if any of the content is article-worthy. FYI - your edits revert not just because of your COI, but because so much of it was inappropriate and/or not referenced. Naming and referencing guest performers does nothing for the article. David notMD (talk) 21:44, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Oremandos! The best, and recommended way for you is making a WP:Edit request at the article's Talk page. Point out the incorrect, incomplete or outdated data and provide references to sources confirming requested changes.
If you want to contact the previous contributors, just look at the article's history. You can find all of them there and check their contributions. If you find someone you'd like to talk to, just follow the 'talk' link next to that user's name. Be aware, however, that editors sometimes stop editing Wikipedia or change their interests.
Good luck. :) CiaPan (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) : Hi Oremandos Both Cullen328 and myself posted some suggestions on ways for you to try and improve the article in response to your question at User talk:Marchjuly#How do we revive a sleepy, out-of-date Wikipedia page?. There have also been a few responses to your previous post at WP:THQ#Can you help me with posting photos? ,and Drm310 also added a template which contains links to relevant pages about conflict-of-interest editing to your user talk page at User talk:Oremandos#Welcome!. If there's something about these responses that you don't understand feel free to ask for clarification. Basically, you should use the article's talk page to request edits be made to the article. The template used for making the request will alert editors that you as someone who has a conflict of interest with the subject matter is requesting that certain changes be made to the article. It may take a little time, but there are editors who move from article to article looking at these requests; so, someone will get to yours as soon as they can. This editor will assess the request and see if it complies with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. If it does, they will make the edit; if it does not, they won't and almost always leave an explanation why. When you make a request, try and keep some things in mind:
  1. All Wikipedia editors are volunteers (including those helping with requests). Edit requests are added to a queue which means sometimes you have to wait in line a bit before someone tries to help you.
  2. The editors helping to answer these requests are doing so in good faith because they want to. Each editor contributions to Wikipedia in their own way, and these editors like helping with these requests. They are neither assigned to answer them nor are they only contributing to the project in this way.
  3. The clearer and simpler your request is, the easier it is going to be for someone to help you. Some people basically copy an entire article onto the article's talk page, make a few changes, and then say this is what they want done. Long and hard to figure out requests often get jumped over because nobody feels like taking a huge chuck of time to dig through them and figure out what's actually be requested. The best requests are short and sweet; they ask for something like "Change the name of the director in the first paragraph to XXXX based upon this article [add link to supporting source here] found in this reliable source." It's also easier to answer one or two requests at a time, then a huge list of requests and helps because some editors may feel they can only answer part of the request and thus skip over it. Peppering the talk page with lots of little requests in different threads might also make it easier for someone to skip over; make one request and then wait until it's responded to before making another.
  4. Certain thing such as those described in WP:COIADVICE might not even need to be requested. Be aware, however, that Wikipedia defines a minor edit in a certain way and is generally limited to very simple corrections, so, if you make a change that is subsequently undone by another editor, it's safe to assume that it wasn't considered to be a minor change by someone.
  5. If you make a request and nobody responds in a reasonable amount of time, you can follow WP:PSCOI#Steps for engagement and seek assistance elsewhere. "A reasonable amount of time" is a little subjective, but a few hours is probably not going to be considered reasonable.
  6. You can find out the name of everyone who has ever edited the article by looking at its page history; so, if you scroll back to the oldest edits made, you'll find out who created it, etc. and then can try to reach them on their user talk pages. Article creators and early contributors, however, don't have any more editorial control over article content than someone who has recently edited the article; moreover, it's possible that their edits weren't all that great to begin with and have been improved upon by others over the years per WP:CONTENTAGE and WP:IMPERFECT. It's also possible that the earlier editors are no longer active for whatever reason.
Hopefully, this answers your questions. If you have any more feel free to ask. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:05, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Lost the page I was creating before submitting to be reviewed


I was using visual editor to create then clicked to look at source editing. I couldn't get back and think I lost all the work. Is there a way to recover (or find) the page? The page was 'Gretchen Henderson' Please use visual editor with answers.

Thank you, Ethanandsierra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethanandsierra (talkcontribs) 21:05, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ethanandsierra: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Other than the above edit, I see no other edits by your account, nor are there any deleted edits under your account, so unfortunately whatever you were working on is probably gone, if you already tried returning to it in your browser.
I noticed that your username "Ethan and sierra" suggests that more than one person might be using your account; this is not permitted. Each account is only for a single individual and may not be shared; each person needs their own account. Please go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS to request that your username be changed. 331dot (talk) 22:28, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
@331dot: Thank you. And one might assume that my username "Ethanandsierra" are two people. But they're not. I create all of my electronic or digital projects with "Ethanandsierra" Sierra is my dog who sits by my feet all day long. But thank you for the suggestions. Ethanandsierra

Seeking an Editor for a Minor Update

am not an editor nor wish to be and hope to work with someone who is comfortable with editing in wiki

have broken a world record in the field of numbers but assume it would be a conflict of interest if i post

hoping to find an editor knowledgeable in math and numbers that can understand and verify that this record was broken and to inevitably be able to update an existing wiki page out there to reflect this

other than a consumer to wiki in general as a resource i have zero experience and have never engaged with the community before and seeking suggestions how i should proceed

please advise thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. You do indeed have a conflict of interest. Thanks for posting here. Wikipedia requires a published reliable source. It is not enough that somebody with knowledge of the field can personally check your work. I have broken many number world records (guess which number type from my username) and am curious about your record but even if I can check it, a source is still required. For some types of records I may be able to help get a suitable source if there isn't one already. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

i assume by editing my query is a way to respond to your comment. is the current email listed on your a way to send direct correspondence? though there are wiki pages on cousin primes and sexy primes neither records in these categories seem to be cataloged by your site or caldwell's prime pages database i am writing a little early as i am still building a primality certificate through Primo would like to email you when after the (fingers crossed) certificate comes through one other question when one makes a Wiki entry does one have to use a legal name or can a pen name used in publishing acceptable enough to be used? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP user. It sounds as if you are hoping to use Wikipedia to publish original research. Unfortunately, that is not an acceptable use of Wikipedia. Once somebody unconnected with you has published information about the fact that you have discovered a new prime (or whatever it was), then Wikipedia can take note of it, and cite that independent source. Until then, I'm afraid not. --ColinFine (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
The email address is current. You can use it for prime number records. Wikipedia issues are usually discussed here at Wikipedia. See Help:Talk pages. Sourcing is problematic. Primes are verifiable but it can be hard to determine whether something is a record. I actually thought about adding the sexy and cousin prime records to my site years ago. I might do it now but then I would have a conflict of interest too if it's used as the source. Your username doesn't have to be related to your real name or a name you have used elsewhere. See Wikipedia:Username policy. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion for real-time chat

Dear fellow Wikipedians,

Has anyone considered using Discord for the real-time chat system? It's just a suggestion, and if it's not practical that's fine.

Thanks, MrConorAE ( user | talk | contribs) 22:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey, MrConorAE, welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for your suggestion. Though I'm not familiar with 'Discord', I suspect any private chat forum not managed by the Wikimedia Foundation would be totally inappropriate. All our conversations on improving articles needs to be completely transparent, and their history always visible to scrutiny. We do have direct email facility, but it is heavily discouraged for day-to-day communication, and should only be used to exchange sensitive information. Nor do we encourage off-wiki cooperation/(collusion?) to edit articles. But we do have a small number of live chat help fora, such as our Live Help channel. (Though I'm not quite sure of the relationship of WMF to Kiwi IRC, if I'm honest). But thanks very much for dropping by the Teahouse with your ideas. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Nick Moyes. Discord is a real-time online chat client that is similar to Skype. It works on a server basis - for example, a Wikipedia Discord server (is hosted by Discord) and we add channels related to specific topics. You also add roles, so you could invite Wikimedia Staff to the server to manage it. I would be happy to help some Wikimedia staff create it! Here's the official Discord website (also, it is frequently used by gamers, but a lot of other people (including me) use it too for non-gaming things...) [[1]]. Also, relating to the official Wiki IRC channels, are there any others apart from the help one?
See Wikipedia:DiscordTheDJ (talkcontribs) 23:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, MrConorAE. Please see Wikipedia:IRC for a complete description of the current chat system. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


Checkout this edit. Even though it's vandalism, it's kind of hilarious! Woshiyiweizhongguoren (talk) 01:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hmmn. It's vandalism, yes, reverted 30 minutes later. I see little amusing in it, and think WP:DNFTT applies. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:49, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I want to write an article

I want to create an article about a person who has stated a website

The article has independent source's

Kashmirspeaks1 (talk) 04:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Kashmirspeaks1. If you want to create an article about a person, you're going to have to be able to establish that said person is Wikipedia notable enough for an article to be written per Wikipedia:Notability (people). Take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything for the kinds of subjects Wikipedia articles are written about. If after reading those pages you feel this person is sufficiently Wikipedia notable for an article to be written about them, take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article for some suggestions on how to actually write a Wikipedia article.
Try and remember that a Wikipedia article is written about something or someone, not for something or someone. This means that article content is supposed to only reflect things which can be verified through citations to reliable sources (generally secondary and independent sources). Wikipedia article content is for the most part not intended to reflect what a subject may have to say about itself/himself/herself; it's really intended only reflect what reliable sources (as defined by Wikipedia) are saying about the subject. Moreover, a Wikipedia article is not intended to promote the subject, their cause, or to set the record straight about something. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I want to create a page of Kashmiri Newspapers and Magazines

I want to create a page about newspapers and magazine which are published from Jammu and Kashmir. Kashmirspeaks1 (talk) 04:32, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Similar to what I wrote about at #I want to write an article, you're going to have to establish that these newspapers and magazines are Wikipedia notable per Wikipedia:Notability (media).
Finally, going by your choice of username and some of the things you say you want to write about, it appears you're interested in things related to Kashmir, etc. There's nothing wrong per se about wanting to write about things related to Kashmir, but you should be aware that this particular topic tends to be quite contentious and tricky to write about even for very experienced editors. Many articles related to this particular topic are placed under Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions because they tend to attract lots of editors more interested in promoting a particular agenda than trying to write about the subject in a neutral manner inaccordance with Wikipedia policy and guidelines. So, as a new editor, you need to be very careful when editing/creating articles about this topic. Although good faith will be assumed if you make any errors, the Wikipedia community is a little less willing to assume good faith when mistakes are repeated over and over again in topics subject to discretionary sanctions than it might be with respect to other topics which are less contentous. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@Kashmirspeaks1: Please also read this very recent Teahouse question by an editor with exactly the same interests as you. Unfortunately their dogged determination has now made it harder for anyone else to create an article on the Kashmir Observer. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:41, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdul Rahman Farachi (talkcontribs) 08:46, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Abdul Rahman Farachi Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. Do you have a question? 331dot (talk) 08:53, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


Can i use an historic photo for a non comercial article?

For example:

mi e-mail: <redacted>

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • We will not contact you by email, but only on this page, hence I removed your email from your post.
To answer your question, you can see at File:Linrrican_Wonder.png that it says (...) the copyright for [this image] is most likely held by the person who created the image or the agency employing the person. It is believed that the use of this image may qualify as fair use under the Copyright law of the United States. Other use of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. If you are in doubt about whether or not your use case constitutes fair use, consult a lawyer. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:50, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Contact A Wikipedia Article Writer

Hello Wikipedia, I have something very personal on Wikipedia which ended up not good. So I want to fix some things up and I desperately need the help of some Wikipedians. So I am asking for one of you to send your email because it's very personal and I know on Wikipedia only the article writers and administration to help me with all things Wikipedia. Please advice. Thank you and God bless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Also note that you can edit articles yourself (subject to certain policies, in particular regarding conflicts of interest), everyone who so wishes can be a "writer" (editor) of our articles. Furthermore, most communications between editors should take place on talk pages (on desktop, click the "talk" tab in the upper left), so you should not use email (privacy-breaching information is an exception). TigraanClick here to contact me 13:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Hello, IP editor. Welcome. I'm afraid the purpose of your question is unclear. Could you explain further, please? Meanwhile, may I offer the following possible bits of advice which may or may not be relevant to your question:
  • If you are seeking the removal of personal contentwhich (under another account) you posted in error (contact details, addresses, unfounded criminal allegations, details concerning a young person, etc) you may contact an administrator directly to remove that for you. Firstly, just delete the content with an edit summary which does not draw attention to it. Then obtain the 'diff' of that edit and contact an active editor. (I usually go to WP:AN or WP:ANI to find an active one, and ask them if I can contact them by email to arrange a Revision delete. I do NOT tell them of the exact concerns because it will be open for everyone to read - thus defeating the purpose of why I ask for their help. For the most serious breaches/accidental publishing of inappropriate detail see Wikipedia:Requests for oversight where there is an email address to contact for total removal of sensitive/personal details.
  • If you are trying to find someone to create content for you, this is best done in an open manner, and not privately. We do not encourage or promote paid editing.
  • If neither scenarios apply, please give just a little more detail here so that we can help you. If you are really concerned about something else, you may go to my Userpage and look for the left hand column link to 'email this user' to contact me, and I will try an assist further. But I am not an administrator, and I would be unlikely to email you back, and would mostly likely reply on the talk page of the IP address you are editing from - but I would be as discrete as possible.
I hope one or other of these differing pieces of advice will help you address your worries. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:10, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

user profile set up

While attempting to upload initial user profile information, mainly name and photo of self, a photo from my own files, being rejected for various reasons. do not see a template or profile data page. please advise. Bill M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billmf1 (talkcontribs) 14:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Billmf1 welcome to the Teahouse. Your userpage can be found at User:Billmf1, which you can modify by clicking the 'Edit' or 'Edit source' tab at the top of the page. (You hadn't actually created it at the time you posted this, so I've just done that for you and have added a very short line of text.)
We don't call them 'Profiles' here - we term them userpages. And they must not be used as if they were a Facebook/LinkedIn profile for self-promotion - but should be used to describe your interests and aspirations in editing this Encyclopaedia. They are simple blank pages; there is no template as such. We certainly don't encourage users to upload photos of themselves - though, if the image is your copyright, we won't stop you. An overtly self-promoting userpage is liable to be deleted very speedily. For information of what is OK and for what contravenes our rules, see our userpage policy at WP:USERPAGE.
Please also be aware that we aren't a website collating stuff on every person who ever lived. So I have removed the content you added to McFeely, where only the surnames of people who are already deemed Notable and who have an article about them should be listed. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:56, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Any special code has to show on paid contributions ?

I want to become a paid contributor on Wikipedia. My question is here that Any special code has to show on paid contributions ?

Jeebonmane (talk) 14:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

See WP:COI and WP:PAID. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Italian Wikipedia

hey boys and girls, I was translating an article from the Italian Wikipedia, refreshed the page and now every time I go on the Italian Wikipedia all text appears black and illegible, can someone lend me a hand?Spaicol (talk) 11:56, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Spaicol welcome to the Teahouse. Don't panic. I'm pretty sure this is somehow linked to the 25th March one-day voluntary blackout of a number of European-based wikipedias, as a demonstration against the EU's proposed directive on copyright. So I don't think it's anything you've done. I would have expected you to have seen a message, as here:, or here on Portuguese-wiki. But when in doubt, a page refresh or system reboot rarely does any harm. Regards from the possibly-soon-to-be-not-in-maybe-the-EU-remain-or-not UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Oh God, I don't like Article 13, and am contacting all my friends in Europe to take action. Just so you know though, the Portuguese Wikipedia doesn't blackout the entire site, it just puts up a giant banner with the same message but in Portuguese. 我是一位中国 (🇨🇳) 15:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

How do you like my new signature?

Snazzy, isn't it? 我是一位中国 (🇨🇳) 15:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@Woshiyiweizhongguoren: Nope. Bearing in mind your actual username, I regard it as unhelpful and obfuscating to other users. I urge you to change it. See: WP:LATINPLEASE. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:19, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: better now? Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 15:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@Woshiyiweizhongguoren: Yes, I think that's much better. A bit too bold for my taste, but it's yours that counts. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:41, 25 March 2019 (UTC)