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Article not appearing on Google search

Hello! I've been creating an article called EnviroBuild. You can find it by searching 'EnviroBuild' on the top right hand corner search box of Wikipedia, and I've also linked it to where the company is mentioned on a different page. However, when I google 'EnviroBuild' it doesn't appear in the Google search. Is this just something which takes a bit of time or could it be something else? I would also appreciate any feedback you might have for the article please! Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redbromeliad16 (talkcontribs) 09:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Redbromeliad16: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It takes time for Google to index articles, and that only happens once they are formally reviewed. I would ask you if you are associated with the article subject in some way. Certain policies would apply to you if you were. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@331dot: Hi, I'm currently researching the Donald Trump news story that EnviroBuild was associated with in December 2018, which already has its own Wikipedia page. Thank you for your help. Redbromeliad16 (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Cleaning up after a page move

Hello everyone,

I have been properly closing some page move discussions and moving the pages where concensus has been reached to move them. Wikipedia has a “simple instructions for closing a page move discussion” page that was easy for me to follow and apply. However, for cleanup after a page move, I couldn’t find any such Wikipedia instruction pages on the page move cleanup process that were simple enough for me to comprehend. Instead, it’s very technical and complicated with a lot of unfamiliar jargon. How can I learn how to do the proper page move cleanup procedures in simple layman’s terms? If it helps for the answerer to understand my skill level of Wikipedia editing, at this point I’ve performed many different types of edits, including page moves, closing discussions, requesting page protection, inserting images, creating info boxes, inserting all types of templates, talk page discussions, etc.

Thanks in advance

Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 09:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mrbeastmodeallday: Always link pages you refer to, or give the exact name. Is Wikipedia:Simple RM closing instructions the first page? Is it Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Moving procedures you find too complicated? Or Wikipedia:Moving a page#Post-move cleanup? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Hi thanks for responding. Yes, the first page I was referring to was Wikipedia:Simple RM closing instructions; it was super easy to follow and understand. The page I found too complicated was Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Moving procedures. I was not aware of Wikipedia:Moving a page#Post-move cleanup until just now as you have informed me about it. The latter is definitely simpler in terms of comprehending it, but there still lies a difficulty in understand how to implement the policies. For example, I don’t know how to figure out what pages redirect or have a hatnote to the former departure page of a page move, let alone fix/cleanup all of them properly after a page move. Thanks again Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 06:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@Mrbeastmodeallday: Do you know Help:What links here? It's assumed users know this feature if they close move discussions but maybe it should be linked clearly. Click "Hide links" to only show redirects (also click "Hide transclusions" on templates). It can be more difficult to find links in hatnotes if there are many other links. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

A little technical problem

You know those drop down templates found at the bottoms of articles, such as Template:Xiamen? Also know how there are three buttons at the top left on all of them that say "V", "T", and "E", for "view", "talk", and "edit"? I'm on Chrome on a Huawei phone, and none of the buttons work at all. Pressing them only brings up descriptions of the buttons, "edit this template", etc. I can still edit them of course, but it's kind of inconvenient. How do I fix this? Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Woshiyiweizhongguoren: Welcome back! The cheeky answer is so say "get a different phone", but I don't think it's your phone that's at fault. I'm seeing exactly the same issue on an iPhone 5S whilst in desktop view (I never use mobile view). I think your question is probably too technical to be answered here, so could I politely pass you on to ask again at Village Pump (technical) which is where I go to find answers from folks who really know their technical stuff? Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Think I might be a little confused about how to setup a biography page.

Any insights? Trying to setup a personal bio page.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanForArizona (talkcontribs) 04:22, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

RyanForArizona, if you're talking about setting up your user page, you can do that by editing User:RyanForArizona. If you're talking about putting an autobiography on Wikipedia, don't. That's a strong conflict of interest. signed, Rosguill talk 06:16, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
You are blocked until your change your User name. After that, understand that the person you want to create an article about (you?) does not yet meet Wikipedia's definition of notable. David notMD (talk) 15:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

John Scolinos -

I believe more can be added about John Scolinos. this site " " I hope you'll provide this info in some format. Thanks for you good works!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, IP editor - Welcome to the Teahouse. Would you make that suggestion at the Talk Page of the John Scolinos article, please? That's the best place to suggest that other editors look at and assess potentially relevant new sources. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:41, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
A problem: The source - Baseball Life - appears to be a website/blog created by one person. By Wikipedia standards, this probably not considered a reliable source as a reference. If you do Google or other search engine searches on John Scolinos, can you find the same facts worth adding to the article, attributable to other sources, for example a newspaper or magazine? David notMD (talk) 15:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Creating a article about a person who is becoming more well known?

Hi, I am looking to create an article about a person named Garrett LaBare who has a lot of achievements including his growing Youtube Channel. I would ask for you in the help of creating the said article.ParcivalGunter (talk) 13:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Based on this googlesearch [1] I don't think it's possible to create a WP-article (that won't be quickly deleted) at this time. See Wikipedia:Too soon and Wikipedia:Your first article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:44, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@ParcivalGunter: We don't have articles on up and coming people or things. Someone must already be notable before an article about them can be accepted. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Biography of Living Person

How can I add a biography of living scholar, author? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AaqibAnjum (talkcontribs) 13:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Your first article carefully. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:53, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
I also suggest that you visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography. Its "Tips for writing biographies" should be helpful. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Article Title Change ...

How do I change the title of an article in Wikipedia? I have found this article "Anna Medical University"

The website for the school lists it as "Anna Medical College" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artie Berns (talkcontribs) 16:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You move it to a new title. See Help:Move for more information. --Jayron32 16:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Check out WP:RM "Requested Move", what you want is the non-controversial technical procedure, because you don't have (yet) the rights to do it yourself with Special:MovePage/Anna Medical University to Anna Medical College. – (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Looked pretty straightforward to me, so  Done Beeblebrox (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


Editing Wikipedia - relax and enjoy the experience!

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia but have some basic HTML and webdesign skills, I'm also quite good at writing and editing. I am interested in travel, food and LGBT culture. I have a bit of time on my hands now and hope I can be of help. Hans RayBan (talk) 10:35, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Hans RayBan. Thanks for dropping in at the Teahouse to say hello and to offer help. That's really brilliant - we'd love your contributions to this encyclopaedia. It can be overwhelming at first to know how best to contribute. We always advise people to start off looking at articles (or categories of articles) that simply interest you personally, or places you have visited. It's a great way to relive past trips, and along the way maybe you'll spot typos, factual errors, or statements unsupported by references which you can research and add. And if you've got your own images you can add, so much the better. Your writing and editing skills will definitely be useful, just so long as you appreciate the encyclopaedia isn't based on personal opinions or experiences, but simply collates existing 'reliable sources' to talk about that topic.
Might I suggest three things to read or do to set you off? Firstly, have a go at our interactive introduction to Wikipedia, called The Wikipedia Adventure (it doesn't work well on a mobile though). Visit Help:Getting started to get a more traditional sense of what resources are available to hep and guide you. And maybe WP:REFBEGIN on how to add inline citations to articles to support the content you've add, albeit reformatted in your own words, and definitely not copy-pasted in.
For random ways to help out, there's a million and one things available to do at Wikipedia:Task Center, but I suspect you'll get greatest reward by focusing on your own areas of personal interest. To that end we also have a wide range of topic-based Wikiprojects - some are very active, others quite the opposite. But they are a place to visit to get a sense of how people work together to improve a set subject area. They often list articles based on importance and quality. The tiny 'stubs' are the places most needing work doing to them.
We're here at the Teahouse 24/7 to help with any problems you might encounter. We're all volunteers, and work collaboratively. We - like you - give our time freely, and the key thing is to work together and enjoy contributing in those areas that you gain greatest satisfaction from. Helping to build or maintain what has become the world's greatest encyclopaedia is something I'm personally extremely proud to be associated with. I hope you enjoy your time here, too. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)  

Thanks nick that's very helpful. I'll try all three and see how I get on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hans RayBan (talkcontribs) 13:02, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Hans RayBan: You're welcome. Can I remind you of the eed for you to sign every post from now on, please? You do this by typing four keyboard tilde characters at the very end of your post, like this: (~~~~). And when you post to a new talk page, click 'Add topic' and don't forget to include a heading - you forgot to do both these things this on your recent post to Talk:Brunei. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:41, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

My draft was deleted.


I'm pretty sure, I followed every instruction previously suggested by some editors to make my article by the rules of Wikipedia.

Somehow, some editor deleted the 'article' I mean my draft for reason 'copyright' - just because this link was used.

The link is the website of the Record Label - where the artist GALOSKI / is releasing music and it was used as cite of the source.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Stefcetodoroski (talk) 21:23, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Stefcetodoroski. Welcome. The problem you encountered was not that you used the link - but you unambiguously copied that webpage's content into your draft - effectively 'stealing' copyrighted content. We can't allow that, hence its immediate deletion. See WP:COPYVIO. In future, you must always write Wikipedia content in your own words yet based upon reliable sources that clearly demonstrates the musician meets our Notability criteria. Does that make sense? Nick Moyes (talk) 21:44, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

I think there's missunderstanding a bit about the deletion. On that link there's biography from the artist - that I wrote back then for him. And I used my words to re-write and do article for the artist on Wikipedia. If you check the link and go back to Draft:Galoski there's nothing used from the website or harm the copyright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefcetodoroski (talkcontribs) 21:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Your source isn't lost, in 2020 or 2021 you can evaluate it again for a 3rd Draft:Galoski. After two rejections this year it's a hopeless case, the volunteers in "articles for creation" are already more than two months behind.
If you'd help with other pages (add sources, whatever you like) you could get the rights to create new pages without "drafts", IIRC automatically after a few hundreds (less than 500) of constructive edits. You could also answer the question on your talk page, if you are Galoski, paid by Galoski, a relative, or anything indicating that you have read WP:COI. – (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Stefcetodoroski. I'm not an admin, so I can't look at the deleted draft. But the deletion comment said "Unambiguous copyright infringement of", which suggests to me that you copied the words from that site. Even if you originally wrote the words on that site, the site says "(c) 2015-2016 Darklight Recordings", so the text may not be used in Wikipedia unless it has been explicitly licensed by the copyright holder - which appears to be Darklight Recordings. If you hold the copyright in the words, then you would have to assure Wikipedia directly that you are the copyright holder, and that you agree to release the text under a suitable licence: see donating copyright materials.
But there is no point in your doing that, because the text in that link, while entirely appropriate for that site, is utterly inappropriate for a Wikipedia article. No Wikipedia article, on any subject, should ever use promotional language like "marked as the fastest-rising star" or " among the top in the industry", unless it is directly quoting a cited reliable source wholly unconnected with the subject of the article. Bear in mind that Wikipedia has almost no interest in what the subject of an article says about themselves, or what their friend or associates say about them: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about them. A Wikipedia article should be a neutrally written (non-promotional) summary of what independent sources have said about the subject, nothing else. Please see User:ian.thomson/Howto. --ColinFine (talk) 23:37, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thank you so much for making everything clear. I appreciate your time and effort, and I find it friendly and helpful. The Wikipedia article I wrote didn't have these words '" marked as the fastest-rising star" or " among the top in the industry," it was everything re-written into a neutral point of view. The same biography that's it on appears on the official social media of the artist - and many other websites. "(c) 2015-2016 Darklight Recordings", this is by default there, I believe. Is there any option to have the draft:Galoski back? I believe it was deleted by misunderstanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefcetodoroski (talkcontribs) 13:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Check out WP:UNDEL. If you ask for an undeletion there you can add a link to this section here:
[[WP:TEAHOUSE#My draft was deleted.]] displayed as WP:TEAHOUSE#My draft was deleted. (talk) 16:03, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
However, if it was deleted for a copyright violation, it will not be restored. Just recreate it fresh. shoy (reactions) 20:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Is Dr Beth Latimer a Good Subject?/COI

Hello, I’m trying to decide whether this would be a good article subject, and am a new user.

I’m considering creating an article about Dr. Mary Elizabeth Latimer MD, a doctor with a office in Washington D.C, Latimer Neuorlogy Center.

I believe she specializes in neurology, as well as in PANDAS, a subset of autoimmune disorders I believe. PANDAS is a relatively new thing, and is not diagnosed more due to 20 years of controversy.

If you think this a good article idea, I would also like opinions on whether or not I should write it. If you go to my Userpage (User:SmileyTrek), you’ll [see] I have declared a conflict of interest regarding her potential article name. I have been diagnosed with PANDAS and have been treated by Doctor Latimer before.

This could and likely does indicate I hold bias on this subject. Again, if you feel this potential article passes notability, please give your opinion on the subject. Do you feel I’m an appropriate person to write this article alone? If not, would it be suitable if I collaborated with someone? If not, who would want to and/or could write it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmileyTrek (talkcontribs)

@SmileyTrek: I looked her up and saw some coverage about her work with PANDAS, but no profiles of her. This suggests that you'd be better adding info about her to the main PANDAS article. If you're not being compensated but are familiar with her work, WP:COI might not be an issue. It depends on how well sourced, unbiased and non-promotional your contributions are. And please sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~ so we who know who you are. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:35, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@SmileyTrek: Please don't remove your Teahouse post, especially when someone has gone to the trouble of answering it for you! I have reinserted it. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, :@Nick Moyes: for reinserting the article. I apologize for deleting it. Smiley (talk) 19:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Well, I've done a quick Google search, and there's at least a page or two of search results that could be helpful. I didn't spend too much time visiting D. Latimer, only a few visits. I probably won't visit her again, but not because I had any conflicts with her, or because I had satisfactory treatment results, but for a different reason. I'll do some preliminary research for now, and probably try and add to the PANDAS page.Smiley (talk) 20:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@SmileyTrek: I wasn't pinged even though it looks like you tried to ping me. Were you pinged, Nick? I started a ping-related thread at User_talk:SmileyTrek#Issue_with_your_signature. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Tim, I put a custom signature in, my username is SmileyTrek, but my signature is Smiley. Smiley (talk) 21:56, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@SmileyTrek: that time I was pinged. "re" didn't work but "reply to" did. Odd.TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: I was notified by the latest ping. I have left a couple of comments on SmileyTrek's user talk page about not using bold and giving my views on unhelpful signatures that don't reflect an editor's username. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@SmileyTrek: A ping must be part of a signed edit (to avoid unwanted pings when copying text). The failed ping [2] was not signed in the same edit. If you want to add a ping to an old edit then you must make a new signed edit. It's most reliable if you don't change the old edit but just add a new signed line below it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Messed up discography

Hi, I tried adding the details on Olivia O'Brien’s debut album to her discography, but I got the coding wrong and it looks all messed up. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thank you! – DarkGlow (talk) 21:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Done! You should probably add a reference to it though (for more information, see WP:REFB). rchard2scout (talk) 21:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
@Rchard2scout: Thank you! I added references about the album to previous parts of the article, and will add more when there are some published articles about it. Again, thank you! – DarkGlow (talk) 23:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

How do I change the color of links?

How do I change the color of the blue links? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regasaj123 (talkcontribs) 01:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello. You asked this at the help desk, you should confine the discussion there. 331dot (talk) 02:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I need to delete references I added.

I entered two references to an article about Cactus Hill. The format is not correct and I would like to delete them if possible.Toadlilly (talk) 04:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Toadlilly: You should use the same method you used to edit the article in the first place. That is by clicking the "edit" tab and removing them. However someone has already done that for you. To learn more about referencing see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. See also welcome message on your talkpage. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:28, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. Just glad it was taken care of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toadlilly (talkcontribs) 04:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

species recognition

is it possible to show a picture of an insect to have it recognised — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Post a link to your photo at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science along with relevant details, such as where the photo was taken and the type of habitat. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
IP Editor: Adding to what Cullen advises above, depending upon where in the world you are, you may find there are far better resources available than the good folks at our ref desk. For example, in the UK we have iSpot. If you do go to the help desk, dont bother uploading an image to Wikimedia Commons (not the place for random unidentified images) - just supply a hyperlink to some external page or Facebook post, etc. If it happens to be a UK species, I'll gladly take a look at it for you, too. Knowing why you want to know its ID can also be helpful. e.g. are you worried it's infesting your property/eating your houseplant plants/garden pest/going to sting you/already know its Genus name- now keen to name it to precise species etc etc. Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 08:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Ilaria Ramelli

Hello, anybody hanging around who is willing to take a look at this article? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 07:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Lotje, Welcome to the Teahouse. My first impression is that this article is far too long and detailed, and reads like a bad CV. The lead should be cut down by 3/4 and there are far too many minor sycophantic additions which make me feel WP:TLDR. This is cruft and lazy referencing: Ramelli's books and essays are published, for instance, by Oxford University Press, Cambridge University Press, Brill, Harvard University Press, Mohr Siebeck, de Gruyter, Peeters, Brepols, Wiley-Blackwell, Routledge, T&T Clark, Wipf & Stock, Catholic University of America Press, SBL Press, InterVarsity, Gorgias, Polebridge, Cambridge Scholars, Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, Harrassowitz, Winter, Academia, Kohlhammer, Beauchesne, Latomus, Barkhuis, Groningen University Library, Universidad Complutense, Signifer, Paideia, Bompiani, Vita e Pensiero, Augustinianum, Marietti, Officina di Studi Medievali, Cittadella, Mimesis, Dell'Orso, ESD, LEV, etc. Some of her academic books and articles are collected, for example, in her Orcid profile, her Kudos profile, with indications of the publishers' websites, her EHS and ISNS profiles, in WorldCat, where an indication of her most widely held books also appears, in Google Scholar, JSTOR, and elsewhere.[66] We are all capable of identifying publishers from any selected books that are listed. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:58, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
How is it that the creation and all of the major additions to this over-long article have been by IPs? Including 128.... who worked on this, and only this, during a couple of weeks in August 2017? Smells like PAID, COI or autobiography. Note that in Oct 2017 this was moved from Draft to Article by Swister Twister, an editor later blocked as a sockpuppet. Oh, and once in Main space, all major additions were by IPs that edited only this article. David notMD (talk) 11:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
I cut 20% of the worst of the lazy and peacock-worded stuff, but the article is still an over-inflated mess. David notMD (talk) 11:39, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
There is no editor here named User:Swister Twister. What are you talking about? Also, sockpuppets and alt accounts are the same thing, right? Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 15:22, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
David notMD was referring to the editor User:SwisterTwister. And no, sockpuppets and alt accounts are not the same thing. I suggest that you read over WP:SOCK and WP:VALIDALT. MarkZusab (talk) 21:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
SwisterTwister doesn't seem like a legitimate alt, and he's blocked infinitely. In lieu of all the issues mentioned above, I nominated the article for deletion. Did I do it right though, for some reason I feel like I haven't. Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The total amount of edits

Is there any way to see the current total number amount of times an article has been edited? Stephengonzalez100 (talk) 02:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Stephengonzalez100 and welcome to the Teahouse! To find such information, go to the article in question and look for the Tools section of the left sidebar. You should see the option "Page information" somewhere in the middle of that. Click that and navigate to the "Edit history" section. The number of times the article has been edited should show up under the "Total number of edits" row of the table. Hope this helps! Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 My talk page 02:25, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I was wondering that too. Thanks! Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Why are these three disambiguation articles separate?

They all describe the same thing. "九龍" is pronounced Jiulong" in mainland China and "Kowloon" in Hong Kong. If I were in charge, I'd merge 九龍 into Jiulong, but I don't know what to with Kowloon. I know I can perform the merge myself, but I'd like to hear your all opinions before doing so. Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

If all those describe the same topic, surely there is only a need for a single disambiguation page, but the tough question is to know what to redirect to what. If I understand correctly what is going on (I speak no Chinese, and have zero knowledge of regional dialects etc.), I would not touch Kowloon (the page for the HK urban area) as it is the primary topic, move 九龍 (disambiguation) to 九龍 and make it the DAB page to which Kowloon (disambiguation) and Jiulong redirect. But all that mess is probably worth a trip to WP:RFD once you have determined whether the urban area is indeed the primary topic for "Kowloon" (it probably is), "九龍" (I guess it is not?) and Jiulong (probably not). TigraanClick here to contact me 12:15, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

How to delete

Hello, I have created a .png file and I have recently wanted to delete it from Wikipedia and I have realized I have no rights to the image. File:EinsteinKirby.png is the page I would like deleted. If you might be able to do so, I would be pleased! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaedalusGodOfWisdom (talkcontribs) 05:41, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi DaedalusGodOfWisdom. The file is being discussed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 March 28#File:EinsteinKirby.png; so, you can go to that page and simply post that you want the file deleted. Then, you can go to the file's page, click "Edit" and add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. This will let an administrator know that you are requesting that file be deleted per WP:G7. When you add the template, you should also briefly explain why in your edit summary for the edit.
If you do post something in the aforementioned "Files for discussion" thread, please make sure to WP:SIGN your post and also to leave an edit summary. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
  • For future readers: the image is a Kirby onto which Einstein's hair and mustache was photoshopped.
@DaedalusGodOfWisdom: Copyright is a complicated topic, and it is not entirely clear to me that you creating this image is a violation of Nintendo's copyright, as many jurisdictions allow for parody reuse (which this may or may not be).
However, the image is likely to be deleted regardless, because exemptions to copyright still do not make an image free, hence to be hosted on Wikipedia's server, it has to meet all criteria for non-free images. I doubt there is any article for which that image would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic (NFCC #8).
Since you are asking for deletion, I will go ahead and tag it for speedy deletion. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


The Wikipedia page on Nicollo Machiavelli mentions that Tupac Shakur used Machiavelli as a stage name yet it does not mention that the song Best Life by Cardi B and Chancellor Bennet includes the line " I'm like Big Pop mixed with 2pac, I'm like Machiavelli(yeah)". It seems to me that since the popular culture section on Machiavelli includes novels, television and video games music should be relevant thereto. Furthermore it seems to me that if the song Something Just Like This were a worthy inclusion in the Wikipedia article on Achilles and if the song Hallelujah were a worthy inclusion in the Wikipedia page on King David then Best Life should be a worthy inclusion in the Wikipedia article on Machiavelli in the popular culture section. Yet whenever I insert that fact into said Wikipedia article it keeps getting deleted. What is the reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP Per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, you should really be discussing this at Talk:Niccolò Machiavelli and propose that the content be added to the article. Moreover, simply arguing that because something similar was done in other articles means that it should be done in the Machiavelli article is an WP:OTHERCONTENT type of argument that is not going to be very convincing in and of itself; instead, you should base your argument for inclusion on relevant policies and guidelines and how they support the addition. Even then, article content is basically determined through WP:CONSENSUS and if the consensus is to not add the content, then there's not much you can do other than continue to follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and move to the next step in the process. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Niccolò Machiavelli#In popular culture says Tupac Shakur used the name Makaveli, not Machiavelli. The Best Life line says "I'm like Big Pop' mixed with 2Pac, I'm like Makaveli (yeah)" according to most sources. The song clearly references Tupac Shakur and not Niccolò Machiavelli. It does not belong in Niccolò Machiavelli. Even if it did reference him, it would be a few words not worth mentioning. The other items in Niccolò Machiavelli#In popular culture are much more substantial. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft to main space

hi! I have a question regarding wiki and draft to main space. I created a draft here: I noticed that its not showing up in google searches as its not in the main space. How do I go about doing so?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crisarome (talkcontribs) 15:12, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Crisarome: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I will shortly add the appropriate information to allow you to submit the draft for a review- however, if you were to submit it now I don't think it would be accepted, as it does little more than tell about the business. Wikipedia articles must do more than tell about the subject, they must indicate how it is notable. The sources offered are also not appropriate as they seem to be interviews and press releases, which do not establish that this business is notable per the guidelines written at WP:ORG. It also talks about things like "values" that are impossible to independently verify(as the business can change those at any time) This business needs significant coverage in independent sources that have nothing to do with the business itself- and the content of the article needs to be based largely if not totally on what those sources say.
I would also ask you if you are associated with this business in some way. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Crisarome, Hey, I added an AFC submission template to your article, So if you want to submit it just hit the big blue button. I would advise you improve the article a bit more first. Good Luck! WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Possible vandalism - next step?

I recently made a very small edit to a dab page (Canon). Within one minute, it had been reverted by another editor without specific comment. This may have been a good-faith vandalism check, as I was I not logged in when I made the edit. I initially decided to shrug it off as the matter was trivial. However, when I checked the user's Talk page, there were a couple of warnings. On checking his contribs for current date, there were a large number of reversions to seemingly random articles in the space of a couple of hours. When I enabled gadget Twinkle, many of these edits had a red tag "Vandalism".

I've reinstated my edit. What further action should I take, if any? --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 11:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@D Anthony Patriarche:If you think that this is vandalism report he/she then if it carries on one of the sysops will deal with it, hope this helps ~~ JJBullet 12:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
If your edit gets reverted one more time, you should open a discussion at the talk page (Talk:Canon) and follow the steps outlined at WP:DR. If (as I would wager) it is not contested again, I suggest you let the matter drop: no further action is likely to result to an improvement of the article or to a sanction against an editor. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @D A Patriarche and Aviartm: I've reviewed this and am fairly confident that on both sides we can assume WP:AGF. Tony, your edit was obviously correct; Pachelbel's Canon isn't a "song", but the problem is that not everyone understands the term "chamber work". Aviartm is doing a lot of good work reverting petty vandalism. I'm willing to assume that "chamber work" sounded more like a building operation, and as such an edit from a lightly used IP would be clearly vandalism. Tony, you've now corrected things and left a good edit summary, so there is nothing else left to do. Moving on to Twinkle's "Vandalism" tag. The tag is not telling a reader that the edit is vandalism (or reverted vandalism), but provides a shortcut so that an editor can revert and warn in a single click. Finally, with respect to your work Aviartm, inexperience sometimes leads to excessive boldness. If you think something is vandalism but are not absolutely certain, then it is best to stop and check. Twinkle is a great tool, but the most important tool is the one between your ears. Speaking for my self, I've often let "dubious" edits lie for a while because I wasn't certain they were wrong. You can always look up the terms in a dictionary and come back.
Keep up the good work both of you, this is a minor hiccough between two good editors, both trying to do the right thing. Thank you both. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Martin of Sheffield and Aviartm: PS—I can see I'll have to be careful with Twinkle, I accidentally reverted one of Aviartm's legit vandalism cleanups (now re-reverted). Sorry, Aviartm! --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 13:04, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@D A Patriarche and JJBullet: I just did a normal revert at the time because I was not too sure whether it was a good faith edit or not, so I went with the most basic one with the least chance of misinterpretation. The majority of my edits were targeting unregistered user edits because people who do not have an account with Wikipedia are more prone to vandalism and such and since you admitted that at the time you were not in your account, you did not think much, but by chance, I just took the safe road and reverted your edit. And after checking what chamber work is and all, I agree with your edit. I apologize for reverting it but at the time, we were doing two different things and by chance, we ran into each other with a slightly different view on what to do. Thank you everybody and keep up the great work! Aviartm (talk) 16:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


I am honoured to be part of the Teahouse community. I am still crawling around, I do not have any question at this moment. However if anything unclear things within wikipedia I will ask.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tefo.Steven (talkcontribs) 15:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you too. Ruslik_Zero 17:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Tefo.Steven Welcome to the Teahouse, and thank you for introducing yourself. We have volunteers here day and night to assist new editors if they encounter problems. We gladly offer advice and help, so do come back if you need assistance. Should an editor not act in accordance with our policies and guidelines (of which we do have rather a lot, I'm afraid!), we do our best to politely steer them onto the right path. With that in might I advise that your User Talk page is not meant for you to post CV-like details about yourself, nor for philosophical musings. It's intended as a way for editors to communicate with you about editing articles, and vice versa. Perhaps I could suggest that you remove those, and just say a few words about yourself which you can place on your main userpage, which you have not yet created. Keep that short, of course, and don't reveal personal details you wouldn't want in the public domain. I will drop by shortly and post a welcome message with a number of helpful links for you. I particularly recommend visiting Help:Getting started. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:25, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

my details on an article keeps getting deleted

Who decides if it is advertising? Hypothetically, if the movie is about Black Doodler, why wouldn't it be allowed? Or likewise, a book is written about the subject of a Wikipedia page. Why wouldn't that be appropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ubermoviefan (talkcontribs) 17:33, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I've posted a detail on the Black Doodler page. i posted in the media section my imdb of my film "SKETCHY". this detail keeps getting deleted. the person deleting my detail say that im advertising. How is it advertising when its just a fact a film is in production of the BLACK DOODLER? Also, at the same time another detail is in that same section stating that someone is writing a piece for a series but has no proof or links to the fact and its kept up? this is very confusing. Bigbabybytes (talk) 16:59, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Bigbabybytes Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Unless your film is written about by independent reliable sources that show how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability written at WP:NFILM, it would not merit an article here. IMDB is not a reliable source as it is user editable. This is a volunteer project, inappropriate content can only be addressed if it is detected or pointed out. 331dot (talk) 17:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you for the explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbabybytes (talkcontribs) 17:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


Can I create an article in Kannada language by referring the content in English Wikipedia i.e. articles written in English? Can I use the information given to create new articles? Does this violates the copyright? — Preceding unsigned comment added by VINAY C Hukkeri (talkcontribs) 15:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, VINAY C Hukkeri. You are welcome to translate English Wikipedia articles to other languages. Please read Wikipedia:Translate us which will give you complete instructions. Proper attribution is required. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:46, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Social Media Icons

Is it possible to edit an article to add social media icons, or are normal external links preferable instead? THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idlerichracing (talkcontribs) 14:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean by social media icons? Ruslik_Zero 17:12, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Idlerichracing: I think you're referring to putting external links to social media sites like Facebook and LinkedIn and using the icons. As far as I know, Wikipedia syntax isn't designed to do this - you can only use text, and the only non text symbol that I've seen is the little arrow indicating an inline external link, like at the end of []. Social icons are not supported. Please sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~ so we know who you are. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Idlerichracing: You should not link to social media sites. See WP:ELNOT. RudolfRed (talk) 18:32, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

What is Classed as sourced Material

Hi Guys could you please explain in simple terms what is classed as sourced material as not all information can be found on the internet, for example POP magazine articles, Records store articles going back to 70's, Newspaper articles, pop annuals as this information may not be available on the internet and concerned if my edit something, it get undone. can someone please advise. xxxxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brosisboss (talkcontribs) 17:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Brosisboss and Welcome to the Teahouse! Sources do not have to be online, but they have to be reliable as defined at WP:RS. About how to add citations to WP, start at Help:Referencing for beginners. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: please note the above editor has now been blocked as a sockpuppet of an editor with a long history of sockpuppetry. What they are actually asking (and have been blocked for before) is if they can upload scans of those articles (which is against copyright) and then use them directly as references in articles. I and other editors have tried explaining many times that they can reference material that is not available online if they source it properly, but they refuse to listen. Richard3120 (talk) 18:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Deleted information -- considered advertising

Where is the line in determining what is considered advertising? I read a great book about a movie, and made reference to it on the director's page. It's a serious nonfiction book about movie production, hundreds of pages, and he is a dominant character. Why would this be advertisement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ubermoviefan (talkcontribs) 17:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Per the note at the bottom of your Talk page, this issue was more serious - that the content was copied from a website. Wikipedia takes copyright infringement very seriously. David notMD (talk) 18:03, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
You may also like to read Wikipedia:Identifying blatant advertising.--Shantavira|feed me 20:04, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Linking to Country

In the article about the New Zealand mass shooting,, none of the mentions of the country are linked back to the country's page. Mapping Data (talk) 21:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mapping Data: Perhaps the second bulleted item, and in particular the first sub-item under it, at MOS:OVERLINK explains it. Deor (talk) 21:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Deor: Ah, that makes sense. Thanks - Mapping Data (talk) 02:38, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Creating a New Article

How do I create a brand new article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluenose Gunner (talkcontribs) 01:17, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Just search for the title of the article you want to create. If it's there, don't make another one. If it's not you can make it but see this first: AltoStev (talk) 02:39, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Translated quotations from sources in other languages

In Ata'ollah Ashrafi Esfahani there are a number of quotations in English from articles that appear to be in Farsi (Persian). I say "appear to be" because while some of the URLs given go to source pages that are all in Persian, many of them bring up a page that, according to Google Translate, says in Persian "You need to enter the site to view the article content. If you are not a member, join the membership." Thus I cannot see the article to tell whether the quotations are given there in Persian or in English. I consider English unlikely, as the speakers credited are Persian Muslim clerics. The article contains, or contained before the March GOCE backlog drive, many grammatical infelicities that indicate a non-native speaker's writing.

The reason I ask is this: If the English version is a translation by a Wikipedia editor, I will feel free to correct any such errors where the meaning is not in doubt, but if the quotation is in English in the source, I think I should not do so. Advice, please? Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 03:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Replacing image in article

Hi, I just registered an account because I think its the only way I can add images. However, I’m still not very familiar with how this is done so I was hoping someone here could help.

The picture I am trying to add is a high quality, high resolution photograph of my anus to the article human anus. The image is superior to and more detailed than the existing photo of a female anus featured at the top (I am female by the way), so this is the specific image I would like to replace Female and male anus. Unfortunately I don’t know how to upload my image. I tried using brackets around the file name on my computer just like it’s formatted in the article to my user page but it’s not working. Can anyone help? Thanks! - Luisa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisalott (talkcontribs) 03:59, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Luisalott, You can upload images to wikipedia using the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. Then put the name of the image (File:xyz.jpg) on the page you want in brackets (so [[File:xyz.jpg]]). As you want to replace the image, simply find the previous image (eg. [[File:zyx.png]]) and replace it with yours. Good luck, especially with the er... Interesting photo. WelpThatWorked (talk) 04:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

DeletionEscanelas (talk) 03:55, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey everyone! I am having a hard time trying to see who deleted my contribution just to get a clear understanding of why and what I could have done to make it better. If anyone can help me better understand how to get there I would gladly appreciate it! Thank you all!


@Escanelas:, According to the history log, User:Grayfell Reverted it, saying "Do we really need even more quotes from this one 2014 essay?". Hope that helps. WelpThatWorked (talk) 04:32, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Find particular articles based on protection level.

A couple of weeks ago I was on Wikipedia and found this tool where you can search for articles that were specifically semi protected or fully protected or pending changes protected but I forgot where it was. Can somebody help me?

Stephengonzalez100 (talk) 02:53, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Stephengonzalez100: Maybe it was Special:ProtectedPages? Cheers, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 06:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Baised attitude towards t series!

T series is ahead of PewDiePie from like 3 days now which is 72 hours which is 27th,28th&29th March, but still it's not on the historical progressions of most subscribed channel table...some people have edited it out many times I request to the ECP users to edit it for good without being any baised.Ty — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaAlKhalid (talkcontribs) 19:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@LisaAlKhalid: Sorry, it's very hard to understand what you are talking about. Your only edit to a Wikipedia article was to change sourced information in Hinduism in Pakistan to something the sources didn't say, and that appears to be unrelated to your question. Please let us know what article you refer to - and in all probability, that article's talk page is where you should be discussing this. --bonadea contributions talk 20:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I may be about List of most-subscribed YouTube channels, possibly sorted out but I can't really tell. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
#PewDiePie vs T-Series "makes sense" as of today, for details see PewDiePie vs T-Series. The general "rule" is WP:NORUSH and wait with reports until the moving target does not more move very fast, but obviously some contributors here enjoyed the race and excused their haste with a {{live|date=March 2019}} + heavy page protections to exclude others. Seriously, it's silly, ignore it, PewDiePie conceded defeat days ago. – (talk) 06:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

New post


could you be so kind and check my Wikipedia post about Communication Unlimited

Thank you for your help and have a good day Monika Tramś — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtrams (talkcontribs) 15:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

My two cents as a relative noob. Social Media are not reliable sources and have no place at all on WP, at best they are gossip at worse they are warring propaganda .Oldperson (talk) 15:09, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Mtrams: I moved your draft to Draft:Communication Unlimited rather than your userpage. shoy (reactions) 15:18, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The draft is here: Draft:Communication Unlimited My opinion is too promotional. Some statements do not have references. The whole bit about CU having an art collection does not belong in the article. Good luck. David notMD (talk) 15:18, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I will be leaving a notice to this user about undisclosed paid editing. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Automatic IP blocks

I noticed that only on the English Wikipedia, certain IP address that are in the range of cellular networks and schools are automatically blocked from editing due to fear of vandalism. Why aren't they in all the other editions of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:26, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Likely because the vandal did not target them WelpThatWorked (talk) 04:34, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Yes; each language version of Wikipedia is its own project, and blocks on one version do not apply to other versions. Global blocks that do apply to all versions are possible, but rare. 331dot (talk) 07:48, 30 March 2019 (UTC)