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On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

How to use this page[edit]

What not to propose for discussion here[edit]

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

Stub templates
Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
Userboxes
Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
Speedy deletion candidates
If the template clearly satisfies a "general" or "template" criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}. If it is an unused, hardcoded instance or duplication of another template, tag it with {{Db-t3|~~~~~|name of other template}}.
Policy or guideline templates
Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
Template redirects
List at Redirects for discussion.

Reasons to delete a template[edit]

  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template[edit]

To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).

Step Instructions
I: Tag the template. Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:
  • For deletion: {{subst:tfd}}
  • For deletion of a sidebar or infobox template: {{subst:tfd|type=sidebar}}
  • For deletion of an inline template: {{subst:tfd|type=inline}}
  • For deletion of a module: {{subst:tfd|type=module|page=name of module}} at the top of the module's /doc subpage.
  • For merging: {{subst:tfm|name of other template}}
  • For merging an inline template: {{subst:tfm|type=inline|name of other template}}
  • If the template nominated is inline, do not add a newline between the Tfd notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the Tfd tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the Tfd notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code). Note that TTObot is available to tag templates en masse if you do not wish to do it manually.

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the Tfd nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the Tfd, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:

/* This template is being discussed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019_April_25#Template:template_name.css */
II: List the template at Tfd. Follow this link to edit today's Tfd log.

Add this text at the top, just below the -->:

  • For deletion: {{subst:tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging: {{subst:tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous Tfds, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous Tfd without brackets|result of previous Tfd}} directly after the Tfd2/Catfd2 template.

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code after the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:catfd2|category name}}
III: Notify users. Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for Tfd to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the Tfd tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors[edit]

While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that an template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets, such as "T3" for hardcoded instances.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tfdnotice}} for this.

Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is supported, helpful administrators and editors will log the result and ensure that the change is implemented to all affected pages.

Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.

Twinkle[edit]

Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the functions of notification automatically. Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion[edit]

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Contents

Current discussions[edit]

April 25[edit]


April 24[edit]

Template:Friendly search suggestions[edit]

Propose merging Template:Friendly search suggestions with Template:Find sources notice 2.
These templates perform the same function, and I don't think there's a distinction to be made, beyond personal preference, for using one over the other. I think the best elements of each ought to be combined: friendly language, a curated set of links, and good parser functions. Bsherr (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

  • There is the Template:Find sources notice that was not cited here, but it surely falls into this discussion. Why? Well, if the idea is to merge, then merge them all. I do not object to the idea if the "best elements of each ought to be combined." Agente Rolf (talk) 01:13, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Premier Soccer League home venues in 2010-11[edit]

Not sure why we need a navbox for the venues for one season. Seems trivial. Frietjes (talk) 16:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 10:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, not needed. GiantSnowman 10:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Decade years navbox[edit]

Superseded by {{Navseasoncats}}   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  16:16, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Gangstar series[edit]

Navigates very-few topics, such that these could linked (or are already linked) in the articles-proper. Izno (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Boston Elevated Railway s-line templates[edit]

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/BERy. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 13:18, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

April 23[edit]

Template:MBTA two lines style[edit]

This template was effectively deprecated when {{MBTA infobox header}} was introduced after the January 2011 TfD. It's remained in mainspace but had no effect on article appearance. It's now fully superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/MBTA. Mackensen (talk) 21:57, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. What about {{MBTA infobox header}}? It seems it itself is also unused. --Gonnym (talk) 09:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
    It is, but given the past procedural history with this template I wanted to handle them separately. Mackensen (talk) 12:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Lehigh Valley Railroad s-line templates[edit]

S-line subpages

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Lehigh Valley Railroad. All transclusions replaced. I've put the 16 S-line subpages within a collapsed section; they're wholly dependent on the three main templates and should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Support deletion. We don't need to keep redundant, obsolete templates around.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:36, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete all per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 09:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Merge redundant notification templates[edit]

Propose merging Template:Deletion mention with Template:Notified.
Merge the former into the latter. They serve the same function, and the former really has nothing to do with deletion in particular. If we want some different wording options, that can be done with parameters. PS: {{Deletion sorting}} might also be mergeable, or convertible into a wrapper for the same codebase, but I wanted to just deal with these two first.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  21:31, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Merge per nom. Both do the same thing with a slight text difference. Not a reason for different templates. --Gonnym (talk) 09:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
  • There are some differences. One allows multiple pages. The other takes an optional reason parameter. How will these differences be resolved? --Bsherr (talk) 21:45, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: While I have no objection to merge templates that appear redundant, {{Deletion mention}} was designed to complement the more official {{Deletion sorting}}, specifically for use in deletion discussions, and indeed supports the additional |reason= parameter. Its documentation also matches this usage, pointing at relevant links about canvassing, etc. I am however uncertain if other editors (than myself) used this template (all instances are also expected to have been substituted). If I was the only user, another option could also be a deletion proposal. No consensus was assessed when I created it. I also have no objection to userfication if it is considered redundant and useless. —PaleoNeonate – 04:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Big Brother sidebar[edit]

The Big Brother sidebar and the twelve sub templates should be deleted and the articles should use {{Infobox television}} as a replacement.

The reason for this is all of the information can be handled by {{Infobox television}} and a list of contestants for that particular adaptation can be added in the |starring= parameter. For an example of how this looks in action see Celebrity Big Brother (U.S. TV series).

Phasing out the old sidebars and transitioning articles like Celebrity Big Brother (UK TV series) to {{Infobox television}} would be a big improvement. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 21:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete all and replace with {{Infobox television}} - these templates have a few issues:
    • They don't follow the television MoS. Specifically they don't follow Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Infobox which says to use {{Infobox television}} for the parent article.
    • Sidebars aren't view-able on mobile devices which means that a big section of our readers can't even see these, unlike infoboxes which do appear.
    • They contain a lot of irrelevant information for a high-level article. Each section of the sidebar is a mini-season infobox. The seasons have their own articles and use {{Infobox reality competition season}} which handles this information.
    • From looking at parts of the code, it seems that it uses code that doesn't follow MOS:ACCESS in that the rows aren't really rows but each row is just one giant cell with all the information inside it.
Replacing with the general infobox will fix all these issues and make the few BB articles that still use this template WP:CONSISTENT with all other series level articles on Wikipedia. --Gonnym (talk) 21:29, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Support the deletion/replacement. We absolutely do not need a zillion TV show templates (much less variants for every edition/season/whatever), especially if they're going to WP:TEMPLATEFORK in strange, guideline-noncompliant directions (which is a WP:CONLEVEL problem).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:39, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete and replace per above. In addition as brought up by another editor in a previous discussion many of these sidebars (like the one at Big Brother (U.S. TV series)) hide text by default which shouldn't be done per MOS:DONTHIDE. TheDoctorWho (talk) 00:57, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:S-par/item[edit]

This was a method of documenting the variants of {{s-par}} which was causing transclusion loops. I've removed it from the 4 variants (out of 200 or so) which actually used it. Cabayi (talk) 17:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as obsolete and replaced.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:40, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 09:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Brightline style[edit]

Brightline has been renamed to Virgin Trains USA, and Module:Adjacent stations makes the style templates unnecessary. Daybeers (talk) 03:20, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 07:36, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as obsolete two ways at once.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:41, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:IPAc-en/pronunciation[edit]

Deprecated in 2015 by Mr. Stradivarius in this edit, no longer used or needed. DannyS712 (talk) 01:39, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 07:36, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as obsolete and superseded by a more capable module.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:42, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

April 22[edit]

Module:OldEnglishToIPA[edit]

Unused module, completely orphaned, hardcoded version of Template:MultiReplace anyway. * Pppery * has returned 20:45, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep. It serves a useful purpose, and it could be really nifty to use its functionality in {{IPA-ang}} or other higher-level templates. I don't see how it can be compared to the module used by Template:MultiReplace: that is a generic string function module, this is a module that transcribes between Old English spelling and IPA. – Uanfala (talk) 09:56, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Provisional keep, per Unafala, but it would need to actually be used for that (or some other) purpose; we should not keep a template around for another decade just on the theory that it could be used.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:44, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @Nardog: Why did you remove use of the module from the template? * Pppery * has returned 22:59, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
    • @Pppery: Because it wasn't used and didn't work. If it does, {{#invoke:OldEnglishToIPA|convert|Ænglisc}} should return "ˈæŋliʃ", {{#invoke:OldEnglishToIPA|convert|Beowulf}} should return "ˈbeːo̯wulf", and so on. But they return "Ænɣɫisk" and "Beowuɫv".
    First of all, is Old English pronunciation completely predictable from spelling, even stress? Old English#Orthography only says it was "reasonably regular", and Old English Latin alphabet says "it had no standard orthography". Wiktionary has Lua-based templates that automatically convert spelling to IPA for languages whose orthography is phonemic such as Spanish, Italian, Polish, Finnish, and Japanese, but it doesn't have one for Old English. And even if such a template for Old English was feasible, I don't think it should be achieved through the existing template that accepts direct input. Perhaps such a template should—again, if feasible—replace Template:IPAc-ang, which is scarcely used (and I don't know if the transcriptions produced by it are accurate; they lack stress for one thing, which makes me doubt it). Nardog (talk) 13:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Seasonal rugby squad navboxes[edit]

This is navbox overkill. If a player had one of these navboxes for every season of their career, it would be an absolute mess at the bottom of their article. Squad navboxes should be for international tournaments like the Rugby World Cup and current international and club squads. – PeeJay 17:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom; only the current season should have a navbox or this would really be an overkill. --Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom; serious overkill. noq (talk) 10:09, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I've found some more of these that should probably be deleted, but instead of adding them to this nomination, I will use whatever consensus we come to here to inform whether or not I nominate them for deletion as well. – PeeJay 12:51, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination. Also Comment I think individual season ones are fine for title winning years (where there is an individual season article) for Premiership, Pro14, Top14, Champions Cup and Super Rugby, these are by default limited in number and worth recording.Skeene88 (talk) 18:39, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
    • I have to disagree about title-winning ones. We can have articles such as 2018 Crusaders season for that exact reason (I'm actually surprised that article doesn't already exist!) – PeeJay 11:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. Same rationale as the for the excessively detailed TV sub-series junk nominated April 23: we cannot have constant WP:TEMPLATEFORKs like this. Just a maintenance nightmare, a breeding ground for WP:CONLEVEL policy failures, and a confusing mess for readers.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:54, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:MUNI icon strip[edit]

Unused. Useddenim (talk) 13:30, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as unused and as unlikely to ever be used in a way that doesn't transgress MOS:ICONS.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:45, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:New Regime (American band)[edit]

This band's navigational template consists of two articles: the band's and one of its members' articles. These two articles already link to each other, so this navigational template has too few links, is unnecessary and WP:NENAN. Aspects (talk) 02:52, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom; two articles do not need a navigation template. --Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. While the WP:NAVBOX guideline doesn't establish a hard limit, there's long-standing general consensus to not have navboxes for such a tiny number of articles. Hatnotes and "See also" and (better yet) just in-context linking in the article body are much more sensible. Call it a WP:NOT#BUREAUCRACY matter: we don't need something complicated when something simple will do.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Unused article assessment class templates[edit]

All of these templates are unused. I will go into more detail below why they are unlikely to be used, but I will start by noting none of them are recognized on the tables on Template:Grading scheme.

{{AN-Class}} is the only place on Wikipedia that references an assessment class called "AN class"; see the search results for "AN-Class" (mainspace and filespace excluded because they're not discussion namespaces and they're full of unrelated content like AN class). Yes, I do know the hyphens between words in quotation marks make no difference in search results and could be replaced by spaces.

{{GAN-Class}} and {{FAC-Class}} are unlikely to be used because WP:GAN and WP:FAC are nominations to be assessed, not assessments of quality themselves simply by merit of being nominated.

{{FT-class}} has no use case because Featured topics are not applied to individual articles, but a designation given to collection of articles. Assessment classes are only relevant for individual articles. eπi (talk | contribs) 01:49, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{GAN-Class}} is used in cases such as User:Iazyges/Kriegsmarine Destroyers when creating worklists. It tends to only be used temporarily while the article is awaiting review, hence why it isn't used as much as others. I still think it's useful. No thoughts on the others. (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 02:08, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
    Your same argument would also apply to {{FAC-Class}}. I did forgot about the Iazyges subpage transclusion, though I'll note the one transclusion currently there is outdated. eπi (talk | contribs) 02:31, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
    @Czar: I have removed {{GAN-Class}} and {{FAC-Class}} from the nomination based on you pointing out how they can be useful in other contexts I didn't consider. eπi (talk | contribs) 03:04, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete AN, FT, per nom. Keep GAN, FAC, per Czar and per E to the Pi times i.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:GAN link/core[edit]

It was deprecated in 2016 by Mr. Stradivarius in Special:Diff/755078860, and is no longer used or needed. DannyS712 (talk) 00:36, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete: Unused templates that have been replaced by a module do not need to be retained. eπi (talk | contribs) 03:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 07:37, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete, as superseded by a more useful module.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  22:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

April 21[edit]

Template:Infobox fictional family/colour[edit]

Unused sub-template. Gonnym (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Module:Other uses2[edit]

Propose merging Module:Other uses2 with Module:Other uses.
If there really needs to two templates for this, then this module should be handled as another function inside Module:Other uses. Gonnym (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete Module:Other uses2 without merging; unnecessary lua module, can be implemented in Wikitext. See also Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 September 23#Module:Other uses2. (Trivia: I believe that this may be the first ever module merge that wasn't nominated by me). * Pppery * has returned 18:47, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge or delete: the functionality of adding the disambiguation suffix is somewhat needless; I'd support deleting {{Template:Other uses2}} entirely, merging its uses to {{other uses}} with manual addition of "(disambiguation)" as necessary. The former saves some effort for power users, but it's otherwise needless maintenance bloat and extra confusion for newbies. If the template is to be kept, then yes, I've got no problem with simply merging the functionality into the other module—its separate nature is just an artifact of piecemeal Lua-fication of the templates. That said, I strongly oppose implementing the template as a wikitext injection to {{other uses}} in the way that Pppery proposed in the earlier TfD, with the same rationale as I mentioned there. As reference, I'm currently the sole author of both modules. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 03:51, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

SEPTA s-line templates[edit]

S-line subpages

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/SEPTA. All transclusions replaced. I've put the 73 S-line subpages within a collapsed section; they're wholly dependent on the four main templates and should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 16:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:ITunes[edit]

We shouldn't encourage links to a store for albums or apps (which seems to be the main purpose here). Why privilege iTunes over eMusic or Amazon or going to your local record store (which is the best of these options)? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 15:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep Judging by the link appearing at Dose Your Dreams, this seems like a useful source of metadata, not some sales site. Am I missing something? Nyttend (talk) 23:28, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Module:Admin tasks[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:G7. Deleted by Materialscientist (log entry). (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 05:15, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hardcoded version of Template:String count, version using that template written at Template:Admin tasks/sandbox. * Pppery * has returned 15:14, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

  • support per nom Hhkohh (talk) 22:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Support as creator - I didn't know the String count template existed. Feel free to sync the sandbox and mark the module for speedy deletion as G7 --DannyS712 (talk) 02:24, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Module:Editnotice load[edit]

Unused module * Pppery * has returned 12:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Infobox D&D deity[edit]

Propose merging Template:Infobox D&D deity with Template:Infobox character.
Similar to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 April 12#Template:Infobox D&D character, the deity of D&D should be merged into the general character infobox. image, caption, name, title, home, alignment and first are already present in {{Infobox character}}; setting, alias and myth are not used by any article (though the latter two are both are included in the general infobox, and if "setting" was meant as "series" or "franchise" then that is also available). This leaves |power=, |portfolio=, |domains= and |super=.

|portfolio= seems to be the abilities they use which can be used, similar to fighting styles and weapons for fighting games. Not quite sure if |super= is OR or not, as some of the articles that use it don't even mention the superior or when mentioning it don't reference it being "superior" but either as family or as someone they are affiliated with. If this is important, it can be added, but if it is misused, then both |family= and |affiliation= can be used instead. |domains= seem ripe for WP:OR as its a laundry list that is usually absent from the rest of the article and should probably not be merged. Likewise |power= should not be merged as too in-universe trivia. Gonnym (talk) 11:56, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Orphan and delete. Most of the items not already in Infobox character seem to be thoroughly in-universe topics that should be ignored as fancruft. I suppose "setting" would be useful to merge if it were in use, but since it's not being used now, I don't see the point of moving it to another infobox where it won't likely be used. Nyttend (talk) 23:23, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete Infoboxes should not include trivial information.Susmuffin Talk 04:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per Gonnym.
  • The "Setting" line can be determined as follows, and become "Series" in the new infobox. Some articles use the version Template:Greyhawk Deity, in which case the series would be World of Greyhawk. Some use Template:Forgotten Realms Deity, which would become Forgotten Realms. Those that simply use Template:D&D Deity do not have a specific setting, so that can either be left blank or converted to something like Dungeons & Dragons.
  • Race should become "Deity" for all, as per Takhisis which was already converted. The rest of the entries (power, portfolio, domains, super) that are not currently used in the main character infobox can be moved to the article text as desired by interested parties by looking at the edit history, but can be ignored during the merging process. BOZ (talk) 23:06, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
    • Good comments. --Gonnym (talk) 07:24, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
      • But if they insist on just deleting the template instead, I suppose I'll have to convert them all myself to "Infobox character" manually. :P BOZ (talk) 11:45, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per Nyttend. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 11:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Miss Mundo de Puerto Rico[edit]

Nav template with 1 link and 1 redirect to the same article. Does not navigate between anything. Gonnym (talk) 10:47, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete. Useless. --woodensuperman 15:55, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete Not enough links....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:43, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

April 20[edit]

Template:A-Class-GA[edit]

A subst-only template to begin an A-class assessment process for a WikiProject currently marked as inactive.

Furthermore, even if the WikiProject were active, the template also uses the term 'GA' in its name, a common acronym for good articles. This is confusing and led to it erroneously being categorized with Category:Wikipedia GA templates. eπi (talk | contribs) 22:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:EdenCharacter[edit]

Unused character template (not quite sure if fictional or just Garden of Eden related), which was created in 2016 and only edited in the first 24 hours of creation. There are other infoboxes that are used either for fictional characters or real people. Gonnym (talk) 22:14, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as unnecessary because other infoboxes are available and used instead. To comment on its purpose, it's Christianity-related, and was created by a sockpuppet of a user blocked for edit warring on Christianity-related pages. Note also that the similarly named template {{EdenCharacter2}} by the same user was deleted two years earlier. eπi (talk | contribs) 00:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in 1924[edit]

Navbox with just one link. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:26, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

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  • Merge per Recycled. --Izno (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in 1925[edit]

Navbox with just one link. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:05, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete if this was not being discussed I would have removed the one link as it doesnt point to an accident article. MilborneOne (talk) 08:34, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
    • Comment @MilborneOne: Even if it did have an independent article, one article is not sufficient for a NAVBOX. The primary task for a NAVBOX is for navigating between similar articles not lists. NAVBOX with two or less links get deleted around here routinely. I know, I have started many such TFDs....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:38, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
    • Comment Thks William understood. MilborneOne (talk) 14:34, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in 1920 through Template:aviation accidents and incidents in 1929, inclusive, to Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the 1920s or something like that. This and two other aviation accident year navboxes have been nominated for deletion (on different days) with the rationale that there aren't enough entries, apparently without considering the obvious solution of merging a decade of templates into one. There aren't many Wikipedia articles about notable aviation accidents in the 1920s, yet, but there are plenty as you progress through the later years of the navbox series. RecycledPixels (talk) 19:51, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per above. --Gonnym (talk) 15:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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  • Merge per Recycled. --Izno (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Grand Trunk Western s-line templates[edit]

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Grand Trunk Western Railroad. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 17:49, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete: The last 9 are just data storage, with one city name each. The first one is also data storage, with only 000000. I will caveat by saying I haven't coded any LUA modules, but using a LUA dictionary for data storage seems like a more sustainable solution than a dozen disparate pages. eπi (talk | contribs) 12:40, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

NYSW s-line templates[edit]

S-line templates for the New York, Susquehanna and Western Railroad; superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/New York, Susquehanna and Western Railroad and Module:Adjacent stations/Erie Railroad. Mackensen (talk) 17:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. See also my comments on the other two adjacent nominations: 1, 2. eπi (talk | contribs) 13:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Erie Railroad s-line templates[edit]

S-line templates for the Erie Railroad; superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Erie Railroad. All article space transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Several merged tables (3)[edit]

no longer needed after being merged (with attribution) with 2014–15 NIFL Premiership, 2008–09 Iran Pro League, 2009–10 Iran Pro League, ... Frietjes (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:2019/20 National League south table[edit]

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 08:38, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:2018 Road to the final1[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per G7. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:23, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes I created this template few months ago, but unused , without any further discussion I want to be Delete this template , thanks(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 14:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC))

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: Based on your above comment, I've tagged it with {{db-g7}}. You can also tag pages where you're the only substantial contributor yourself using that template (see WP:G7). eπi (talk | contribs) 00:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Kilkenny[edit]

WikiProject Kilkenny was userfied in April 2011 to User:Mrchris/WikiProject Kilkenny per this MFD which I started, and the title WP:WikiProject Kilkenny was redirected to WP:WikiProject Ireland. I dunno how the banner survived so long after the project was terminated, but it is absurd to have a project banner and associated category structure (see Category:WikiProject Kilkenny articles plus subcats) for a non-project.

NB Please do NOT redirect this banner to Template:WikiProject Ireland. The importance rating assigned in a Kilkenny-only context will be very differnet to those assigned in an all-Ireland context. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

PS I have checked that all the non-userspace pages tagged with this project banner are tagged with {{WikiProject Ireland}}. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:57, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Design-EU[edit]

Propose merging Template:Design-EU with Template:Intellectual property laws of the European Union.
Overlapping templates. {{Intellectual property laws of the European Union}} was just recently merged with {{Trademark-EU}} per this TfD for the same reasons. Gonnym (talk) 19:40, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete: I don't know much about the topic area, but since the intellectual property rights template has a section for design rights already, having a separate small design rights navbox seems superfluous. I did a spot-check and added the one missing link Hague Agreement from {{Design-EU}} to {{Intellectual property laws of the European Union}}. eπi (talk | contribs) 00:34, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

April 19[edit]

Template:Stnd[edit]

This template creates disambiguated links to railway station articles in the format Name (Service station). This convention was generally used in North American articles, and deprecated by the WP:USSTATION guideline. Every link this template creates at present is a redirect. The template could be modified to use the format Name station (Service), but as articles are no longer preemptively disambiguated this will probably lead to broken links or further redirects. There are better alternatives such as {{station link}} or the various system-specific templates enumerated in this templates' documentation. Mackensen (talk) 23:59, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete. This method is no longer needed. –Daybeers (talk) 02:01, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • {{Subst:}} with {{rws}} which will redirect to the correct page. Useddenim (talk) 21:11, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
    • @Useddenim: Out of curiosity, why do you prefer a redirect over a direct link? Mackensen (talk) 12:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Mackensen: Maybe redirect isn't the right word. But {{rws}} is a much more flexible template because it accommodates all five of the station disambiguation formats. Useddenim (talk) 13:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: Sure, no disagreement there. I'm just saying that there's no need to guess when there's a template whose data module knows (in theory, anyway) the canonical link to an article. That's especially useful if the station article gets moved to a non-standard name, which does happen from time to time. {{rws}} isn't future-proof. Mackensen (talk) 18:33, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Useddenim: Are you suggesting a wrapper like has been done with {{Amtk}}? Not quite sure how that would work in this case. –Daybeers (talk) 22:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
No, I was suggesting that having it invoke {{rws}} (which is actually a redirect to {{tl|stnlnk} }) would be much simpler than changing the multiple occurrences of the template on the 200+ pages it's transcluded on to. Useddenim (talk) 04:26, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
That doesn't matter in the context of a TfD discussion. Mackensen (talk) 12:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Rochester Subway templates[edit]

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Rochester Subway. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 23:50, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Italian general election, 1994/Position/Deputy, Licata[edit]

Unused and no place to even place it. 1994 Italian general election does not list the elections per region and 1994 Italian general election in Sicily does not exist. Gonnym (talk) 13:46, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Italian general election, 2006-Senate-Unione[edit]

Unused template. The article 2006 Italian general election uses so many other tables that I'm not sure where this could even fit. Gonnym (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Italian general election, 2006-House of Freedoms[edit]

Unused template. The article 2006 Italian general election#Main coalitions and parties uses a different table for the coalition parties. Gonnym (talk) 13:39, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Italian general election, 2006 – The Union[edit]

Unused template. The article 2006 Italian general election#Main coalitions and parties uses a different table for the coalition parties. Gonnym (talk) 13:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Jersey election, 2005[edit]

Unused template but also very badly created. This doesn't just list the 2006 election results, but also previous election results which makes this very hard to understand. Gonnym (talk) 13:33, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:SunClock[edit]

This template has multiple inaccuracies. I think it should be deleted because there are other places like this one that show the same thing. Mstrojny (talk) 23:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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  • Keep I can't see any inaccuracies, the SunClock template has benefits above other versions because it not only shows the sun's position relative to time of day but also takes into account season, climate, distance from equator, and daylight savings effects. Plus, the example you link is offline and is relatively non-secure (according to check performed with my browser), not something we can or want to use. Kingsif (talk) 15:58, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
@Kingsif: The template has the following inaccuracies. The times in Mexico, Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Spain are all wrong. Are you saying the template can be improved upon rather than deleting it? Interstellarity (talk) 20:32, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes, you could easily improve it. Kingsif (talk) 20:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Case preserving encode[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Reaper Eternal (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 00:01, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

As noted in the documentation, this template was mostly used by {{sec link}}, {{sec link auto}} and {{sec link image}} which were deleted. At Template talk:Case preserving encode it was brought up by User:Anomie that it can be replaced by {{urlencode:{{{1|}}}|wiki}}. Its only usage left is at Template:Template sandbox notice, which can be replaced by the code above. Gonnym (talk) 10:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I still fail to understand why people don't discuss stuff like this with the creator first. It saves everyone's time, since most are non-controversial deletes or keeps. I have labelled this {{G7}} as best I can. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC).
No point in pointing fingers, I could have asked why the creator doesn't comment on the talk page once in the 7 years the question was raised. --Gonnym (talk) 18:24, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:BillboardURL[edit]

Propose merging Template:BillboardURL with Template:BillboardURLbyName.
{{BillboardURL}} has been deprecated in favor of {{BillboardURLbyName}}. All remaining transclusions should be converted to the proper template. Gonnym (talk) 09:24, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I have wrapped the TfM notice at {{BillboardURLbyName}} because that notice breaks cs1|2 citations when this template is used in |url=. Edit: same done to {{BillboardURL}}.

Trappist the monk (talk) 14:26, 19 April 2019 (UTC) 14:34, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

BillboardURL existed primarily to handle some edge cases where Chartbot could not figure out the proper way to build a reference to BillboardURLByName. Since I'm no longer particularly welcome around here, I no longer run Chartbot, so there probably isn't any good reason to retain BillboardURL.—Kww(talk) 19:15, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge. I marked {{BillboardURL}} as deprecated a while back, but nominating it for a merge is probably what I should have done. BillboardURLByName does everything BillboardURL does, but is easier to use (I think the "chartnum" thing is a relic of a previous URL structure at billboard.com). FWIW, it looks like there are only 11 pages that transclude BillboardURL directly. I'm pretty sure all the remaining transclusions are via {{Single chart}}. Colin M (talk) 20:56, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Nuvvostanante Nenoddantana character map[edit]

I don't think character maps like this should even exist. The reason of connecting the different remakes of the same film should be solved by a navbox. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete is reasonable here, but I'd like to see the navbox first I think. --Izno (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep: This template has a table which connects the actors who played the same characters different remakes. This could be useful for a film researcher or enthusiast who wants to understand the casting pattern in different film industries. --Anoopkn (talk) 08:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
    That can be gotten by the researcher researching as appropriate, and we certainly don't need this template for the sole purpose of convenience in a hypothetical use case. --Izno (talk) 14:21, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Manichitrathazhu character map[edit]

If one intends to connect the various remakes of the same film, creating a character map is not the solution. Rather, one could consider creating a navbox. This film already has that. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:33, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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  • A delete here is reasonable. --Izno (talk) 16:17, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep: This template has a table which connects the actors who played the same characters different remakes. This could be useful for a film researcher or enthusiast who wants to understand the casting pattern in different film industries.Anoopkn (talk) 08:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
    That can also be gotten by a researcher researching as appropriate, and doesn't need a dedicated convenience template for a hypothetical use case. --Izno (talk) 14:20, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox surname[edit]

Propose merging Template:Infobox surname with Template:Infobox given name.
Much overlapping variables, and for a reason. In fact in many if not in most cases historically and internationally, a surname is or was a given name. It might be time to finally merge this? PPEMES (talk) 11:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

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Can't merge, because only one Infobox. It is Infobox surname. The "Infobox given name" is not available.125.161.129.177 (talk) 11:43, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

No. It is can not to be merge. Because, the "Template:Infobox surname" is alone. The "Infobox given name" doesn't exist at the article. The article content is fine and good. 180.251.222.89 (talk) 14:32, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Decline. Because, the "Template:Infobox surname" has not paired by "Template:Infobox given name" at the article code. The "Template:Infobox given name" is not exists.180.243.50.148 (talk) 14:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Assyrian/Syriac/Chaldean political parties[edit]

Propose merging Template:Assyrian/Syriac/Chaldean political parties with Template:Assyrian people footer.
Might as well be merged? PPEMES (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Aramean political parties[edit]

Propose merging Template:Aramean political parties with Template:Assyrian people footer.
Might as well be merged? PPEMES (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:La Serena squad[edit]

unused navbox with numerous WP:REDLINKS Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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  • Keep and update to match Deportes La Serena#Current squad, and rename as {{Deportes La Serena squad}}. GiantSnowman 08:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. Even if it were updated to match the article, we would be storing article content in an unused template. That doesn't make sense. The only reason to keep this is if it were going to be used in multiple articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 09:44, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
@Jonesey95: once it is updated we would then add it to the relevant articles, so it's no longer unused. Squad navboxes are common and established (see eg Category:Association football squad navigational boxes by country). GiantSnowman 15:16, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Liloa/Piilani/Moana Family Tree[edit]

Unused navbox with mostly plainlinks (WP:EXISTING) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep No plainlinks are used. These are explanatory notes/references. The family tree has sources so I have connected it to the intended page so that it is no longer orphaned. There are several other articles this is also intended for. Will fully reference the tree similar to the recently started Template:Kalaniʻōpuʻu, Kamehameha, Kānekapōlei and Peleuli family tree.--Mark Miller (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: I have a hard time understanding why this chart is inside a navbox and has a reference section (not a note section, as the head suggests). If this is to be kept, it should be changed to use normal tree chart syntax and not be a hybrid. Just to be clear - If this is the style that is to be kept, then I'm in the opinion that this should be deleted as it violates correct MoS sections, accessibility of font size and misuse of navbox that does not show up on mobile. --Gonnym (talk) 10:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Salem–Vriddhachalam–Cuddalore Port line[edit]