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Asia country page dispute[edit]

Unfortunately, Au20 republican attempted to sideline this very crucial discussion and I will revive it. While we and many others have heard what au20 has to say, and also my position is well known, I think it is just as crucial to get others’ opinion on the issue. I request the following other editors on the Asia countries page to state their opinions;

- BushelCandle - Matthew hk - Resnjari - Myasuda - LightandDark2000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lo meiin (talkcontribs) 2019-08-06T22:00:04 (UTC)

@Lo meiin, for the record, I did not "sideline the discussion" as you accuse me of having done. The reason why the prior discussion no longer appears on the noticeboard is that, after like a week in which no one (including you) commented on your complaint, the discussion was archived (not by me, but by whomever monitors the noticeboard and archives dead discussions). If you want to accuse someone of "sidelining the discussion," I welcome you to search the edit history of the noticeboard and find out who archived the discussion and lob your ridiculous accusations his or her way, although I'm pretty sure that it wasn't someone trying to silence your quest to present the State of Palestine as something that it is not. Oh, and when someone automatically signs your prior edit for you (which you forgot to sign), that wasn't me either.
You say that "many" have heard what I have to say regarding this discussion, and that may be true, but given that the prior discussion was archived after no one showed any interest on it for about a week, I am forced, at the very least, to describe what I wrote that no longer is there for all to see. For one thing, I had to defend myself from your defamatory accusation that I "depicted Palestinians are [sic] a mindless, anti Semitic, radical and insolent people"--several times I have demanded that you apologize for your blatant lie and cowardly insult, but so far you have refused to do so (and your reaction has been to disappear from Wikipedia for seven days and then, in your return, accuse me of having "sidelined" the earlier discussion).
I also presented my arguments as to why the Asia country page should not be edited to group the State of Palestine with Malaysia and Qatar (as if it were a generally recognized sovereign state) or to group Taiwan with Northern Cyprus or South Ossetia (as if it were a state with little or no international recognition), and explained that the determination that Palestine and Taiwan (plus Kosovo and Western Sahara) should be grouped together as de facto sovereign states with substantial, but not generalized, international recognition was made by consensus a couple of years ago as a compromise that sought to avoid improper POV. I won't resubmit my full arguments at thus time, but will do so if editors so request or if other arguments are added to this noticeboard discussion. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 00:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello wiki community,

I deeply regret that a wiki editor recently had be temporarily blocked for obvious reasons but yet again this cowardly move will not stop me from pursuing an end to this perennial debate in a more civil manner than previous sock puppets. I would also like to reiterate and strongly emphasize that I am neither pro/anti Israeli, pro/anti arab countries, and, only for the sake of Wikipedia NPOV, pro/anti Taiwan. Once again, I invite the following editors of Asia country page ( or anyone OTHER than Au20 ) to provide their opinions on whether Palestine should or should not be grouped with the recognized states of Asia, which is the int community’s opinion and the consensus of Wikipedia

@Matthew hk

Any and all other editors may also feel free to opine on this issue.

Thank you شكراً جداً لكم 谢谢

Lo meiin (talk) 21:01, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Lo meiin, this page is for discussion of the workings of WP:AN and WP:ANI. If you have a complaint, it goes at ANI. However, you're going to need to provide evidence in the form of DIFFs and links to the specific policy violated. Also, be brief. John from Idegon (talk) 21:47, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
(Non-administrator comment) I don't know why I am pinged, but firstly I am busy. Busy with my private life and may be editing 2019 Hong Kong protests and may be Italian football. Secondly, please remember Wikipedia is a tertiary source that summarized secondary source. Lastly remember 5 pillars of Wikipedia and considered to solve dispute on article talk page and may be using RFC and dispute resolution chamber or edit war notice board. Matthew hk (talk) 02:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

My apologies guys I will therefore take this to WP:AN thanks for the kind reminder

Lo meiin (talk) 06:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Nope. It is NOT for Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. For WP:ANI you need a strong reason. Matthew hk (talk) 08:28, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Deplorable page moving[edit]

Please somebody of the admin can help me to revert this this deplorable inversion of redirect :( --Kasper2006 (talk) 04:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

One-click archiver[edit]

This exceptionally useful tool works fine at ANI, but breaks down at AN. Does someone more technically capable have any explanation as to why that is? Is it fixable? Vanamonde (Talk) 03:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I seem to recall using it at AN once or twice and it worked OK. What's the trouble? EEng 14:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
If you check the history of a recent archive file of WP:AN, you will see many successful uses of the OneClickArchiver in the last 50 edits. So it has worked recently. For example, it worked on 31 July, 2 August and 12 August. We also have a bot doing regular archiving. User:Lowercase sigmabot III is faithfully doing its duty between midnight and 0300 every night, so it may not be essential to use the OneClickArchiver. (The bot is set to archive each thread 48 hours six days after its last update). Some AN threads contain the Template:Do not archive until so that might be a factor. EdJohnston (talk) 15:05, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
@EEng: Well, I just tested it on a closed discussion at ANI, and it worked fine; but at AN I got the popup message "No archive counter was detected on this page, so archiving was aborted. See User:Equazcion/OneClickArchiver for details." EdJohnston is correct in saying that Lowercase sigmabot is doing its job, but the fact is that AN and ANI get too long to be easily navigable quite often, and archiving newer, but resolved, discussions can help. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:36, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello Vanamonde93. Try using User:Technical_13/Scripts/OneClickArchiver.js instead of Equazcion's version. Checking your common.js, you are using Equazcion's version. I reproduce the failure you see ('No archive counter was detected') if I use Equazcion's script. EdJohnston (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Indeed, that seems to have fixed it, thanks a lot. I still find it curious, but haven't the technical knowhow to figure out why one script would work and the other wouldn't...and if there's a workaround, why bother? Thanks again, Vanamonde (Talk) 23:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Equazcion's version uses a regex that looks like this: '\\|counter ?= ?(\\d+)' while T13's looks like this: '\\| *counter *= *(\\d+)'. It's the stars instead of the ? marks that makes it work.--Jorm (talk) 00:10, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
I am wrong there; it's not the stars/questions. It's the opening bit, which expects "|counter" in Equazcion's. T13's allows for "|(anything)counter", and the page's config has a space there ("| counter"). Removing the space on the config will fix it.--Jorm (talk) 00:19, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Jorm, thanks for fixing the header of WP:AN. I did another trial of Technical 13's version of OCA on one thread of WP:AN and it still works. Since User:Equazcion is no longer active, not much point in notifying them, but per this 2017 edit there is some sentiment that people ought to switch to Technical 13's version. I'll notify User:TheDJ who left that comment, as well as User:Wbm1058 who also touched the script. Who wants to take over as maintainer of the script? Jorm clearly has some relevant knowledge :-) EdJohnston (talk) 01:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Evad37 has a version, User:Evad37/OneClickArchiver. Galobtter (pingó mió) 01:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
On my personal to-do list is to work through the freeCodeCamp Javascript courses (when I can make myself take a break from Wikipedia tasks); then I would really be able to help in this area. I understand that T-13 made some desired enhancements, but he also made a change or two I didn't like, so I still use User:Equazcion/OneClickArchiver.js which I'm happy with. I did recently need to make this edit to get that to work on a particular talk page. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)