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Proposed design for "Recent Changes" Barnstar 2.0[edit]

I had an idea for a possible design for the "Recent Changes" Barnstar 2.0 (which is currently nonexistent): A barnstar with a similar layout to, say, the Curator Barnstar 2.0, but with the clock face replaced with a refresh icon (in reference to the "View new changes" refresh button on the Recent Changes page).

I then attempted to create a mock-up of what I envisioned the barnstar to look like. (Considering this was my first time using Photoshop for anything besides cropping/rotating photos, however, it didn't go well--especially since the refresh icon used on the Recent Changes page is a mere 20 pixels in width, and unfortunately real-life doesn't have a magical scale-up and "Enhance!" feature, so the refresh icon is ridiculously blurry) Nevertheless, this is vaguely what I would imagine the barnstar to look like (see right).

Revised "Recent Changes" Barnstar 2.0, First Draft.png

Is this design even worth pursuing, or would a different design be better? (For instance, I had a brief idea of having black/red/green colored lines in the background to vaguely resemble the Recent Changes page (as a nod to the design of the Recent Changes Barnstar 1.0), but based on the simplified look of the other 2.0 barnstars, I doubt that this would be a good idea.) Any and all advice is appreciated.

(Also, if someone with a bit more knowledge of graphic art design could retexture my mock-up so that the refresh arrow looks less blurry, that would be massively appreciated.) TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername 00:48, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

I think this looks like a great design for the Recent Changes Barnstar 2.0. When I get a chance, I'll try to create a higher-resolution version of your barnstar as requested. Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 14:54, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Went back and improved my original design, so as to create this (see right).
Second draft
(Specifically, I changed the center color to white, and replaced the hand-drawn arrow with a clipart icon I found on Wikimedia Commons, then hue-shifted it to match the original hex color (#33bbcc) as closely as possible.)
There are still a few problems (namely, the fact that there is a small gap between the grey border and and the rest of the barnstar, which I have no idea how to rectify), but overall, I'm relatively happy with the barnstar's current appearance. Any advice would still be appreciated, however.
TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername 20:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

The Socialist Barnstar[edit]

Socialist Barnstar.png

It's been sometime since I've made this Barnstar, but WP Socialism had already aproved it at the end of July. It covers socialism in general. I just forgot to inform this project. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If I can ask, how will this proposed barnstar differ from The Workers' Barnstar? (Or have I merely misunderstood, where this is a replacement of one of the Workers' Barnstars?) -TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername 05:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
This doesnt have the hammer and sickle and focuses on socialism only. The workers barnstar covers communism as well. This isnt a proposal, WikiProject Socialism has both Barnstars as a option. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 11:13, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, I'm now proposing to remove the Workers Barnstar, A single Barnstar should not cover multiple topics such as socialism and communism. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:53, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Communist Barnstar.png
A single Barnstar should not cover multiple topics such as socialism and communism. I don't see why not, communism is a form of socialism. - ZLEA T\C 12:10, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Not exactly, I'm not going to go in detail but here's a link that kind-of summerizes it. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 12:39, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Furthermore, socialism today is more about Liberal socialism. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 12:43, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

JudeccaXIII, because I like creating award ribbons (and I'm on a roll today)... would you like a Ribbon for this? Will (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar Shadowed Ribbon Textured Ribbon Small Ribbon
Communist Barnstar.png
The Communist Barnstar
Communist Barnstar ribbon Shadow.svg
File:Communist Barnstar ribbon Shadow.svg
Communist Barnstar ribbon.svg
File:Communist Barnstar ribbon.svg
Communist Barnstar ribbon.svg
File:Communist Barnstar ribbon.svg

Will Those look really nice, sure. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The Anarchist Barnstar[edit]

Anarchist Barnstar.png

I've made the Anarchist Barnstar to cover anything related to Anarchism. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I plan to give this to all sorts of people who don't deserve it and there's nothing you can do about it! Bwwwwwwaaaaa haha NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC) just kidding
NewsAndEventsGuy I assume you're pleased with it. I really like how this one turned out. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 17:39, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Sure looks good! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 17:41, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

The Bahá'í Faith Barnstar[edit]

Bahá'í Faith Barnstar.png

I've created the Bahá'í Faith Barnstar to cover anything related to the Bahá'í Faith. JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

If anyone asks, this was the best version I had out of the eight samples I'd made where the symbol and calligraphy don't completely conflict with each other.
I think it looks really good.★Trekker (talk) 13:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Assuming good faith[edit]

Is there a barnstar for assuming good faith? Benjamin (talk) 04:28, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Benjaminikuta I believe the Civility Barnstar covers AGF. - ZLEA T\C 12:17, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
I think there should be one specifically for assuming good faith. Benjamin (talk) 00:39, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
I concur with ZLEA, the Civility Barnstar is enough. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Everyone is right. Civility or even the generic work, and will make the recipient happy. But there are so blessed many variations that another won't hurt anything and will make the creator/artist happy and in some small way might help cultivate an AGF culture. I tried to whip one out, but didn't have any good ideas. None of the ways I arranged the letters AGF looked good. ANyway thanks for a good, good faith idea, Benjamin. Do you have design ideas? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps an olive branch? But idk, I feel like that might imply that there's some conflict when there's not. This is quite tricky. Benjamin (talk) 09:38, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

The Thelema Barnstar[edit]

Thelema Barnstar.png

Made this Barnstar to cover Thelema. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks good, but I'd make the ring slightly smaller.★Trekker (talk) 14:07, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

★Trekker I had reduced the ring as you requested, but it was no longer visible once I uploaded. I reuploaded the Barnstar again but without the ring this time. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I didn't mean "the ring" as in the contour of the symbol but the round symbol itself. Should have been more clear.★Trekker (talk) 18:30, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
★Trekker, Done. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Looks awesome!★Trekker (talk) 19:43, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Duplicate template[edit]

There is a duplicate template of Template:Barnstar Barnstar, it's Template:The Barnstar Barnstar. Now Antonu was the one who created the duplicate, so I really don't like questioning his work. He must've had a reason, and I assume it's the title of the template. Most Barnstar templates contain "The" in the title. The majority of Barnstars that omit this are the recently added ones. I add "The" to my templates when it comes to Barnstars. Is there a format style for titling Barnstar templates? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 04:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

The difference between Antonu's template and the original is that the original has the option of being either a standard barnstar or a barnstar 2.0, while Antuno's is only a barnstar 2.0. Also of note is the fact that Antuno's template is labeled "The Barnstar Barnstar Barnstar". Other than that, Antuno's template is an exact copy of the original.
It looks like Antuno didn't like the title of the original template and didn't know how to move it to the desired title. We may not know for a while as Antuno's last activity was in April, after a two-year absence. - ZLEA T\C 11:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

The Atheist Barnstar[edit]

Atheist Barnstar.png

I've created a new design for the Atheist Barnstar via Template:The Atheist Barnstar to replace Template:Wp atheism barnstar. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

JudeccaXIII, beacuse I like creating award ribbons... would you like a Ribbon for this? Will (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Barnstar Shadowed Ribbon Textured Ribbon Small Ribbon
Atheist Barnstar.png
The Atheist Barnstar
Atheist Barnstar ribbon shadow.svg
File:Atheist Barnstar ribbon shadow.svg
Atheist Barnstar ribbon.svg
File:Atheist Barnstar ribbon.svg
Atheist Barnstar ribbon.svg
File:Atheist Barnstar ribbon.svg
I think they're all very cute.★Trekker (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
★Trekker Will I'm working on another version of the Barnstar right now. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
JudeccaXIII I'll hold this one back then and update it when you have the new star put up. Will (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Will My samples aren't coming out the way I wanted them to. I'm just going to stick with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
JudeccaXIII I've added the ribbons (and the communism ones) to the WP:RIBBONS list. I put that the FSM star is the Barnstar 2.0 for WP:ATHEISM, as they appear to still be using that aweful BoNM style pixelated mess. Will (talk) 19:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Will thanks. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Stub Barnstar[edit]

Stub Barnstar 2019.png

I made an alternative version for Template:The Stub Barnstar. Does anyone know how to put another Barnstar in the same template? I don't. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:10, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done, JudeccaXIII I've added your barnstar to the template. - ZLEA T\C 20:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
ZLEA Thank you. - JudeccaXIII (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The Banstar Barnstar[edit]

Template:The Banstar Barnstar, I don't think anyone who is indef. blocked/banned from editing suddenly wants to get busted editing because of this, and do editors who've been blocked in the past really want this to? It seems more awkward than it is rewarding. Propose to remove from the list. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I have a hard time understanding exactly what it is for.★Trekker (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
According to the description, it's not intended for users who are banned from Wikipedia, but is intended for users who are banned from public databases due to "incessant fact-checking, due diligence, data collection, and/or general curiosity". - ZLEA T\C 23:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I already read the description, and it's quite obvious there's some confusion. And I'm going to assume the Barnstar is meant to be awarded to those who've been banned outside of Wikipedia? I still don't see why that's relevant. —— JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm guessing maybe it's a bit coy?★Trekker (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I just viewed the usage of the Barnstar image and the template history, and I didn't find any discussion concerning this. It seems it was boldly inserted without notice. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Can we contact the creator?★Trekker (talk) 00:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Tom.RedingJudeccaXIII (talk) 00:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

When systematically querying online databases in high volume like the JPL Small-Body Database, the Minor Planet Center, the IUCN Red List of Endangered Species, etc., an over-eager Wikipedian can get themselves (their IP anyway, usually) temporarily or semi-permanently throttled and/or banned from those sites. This barnstar is to salute users' efforts in a light-hearted way to keep the encyclopedia up-to-date.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  14:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Tom.Reding That makes sense, but how would a user know if another user is banned from a database? - ZLEA T\C 14:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't know why getting banned from another website/non-Wiki database has anything to do with Wikipedia. Do you mean getting blocked/banned from a Wiki site but edit another related Wiki? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 14:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I think he means when someone accidentaly gets blocked (likely because the site wrongly assumes them to be a bot) when doing research a lot on a specific site. This has happened to me once or twice.★Trekker (talk) 15:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Who and/or how is that supposed to be verified? I guess my concern/confusion with this is who would be giving the award, and how would they know to do so? Is this self-awarded like service awards? Will (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@Wegates: as with most barnstars, it's best received rather than self-administered.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: where do you think all the data in the infobox of 99942 Apophis and all the 10s of 1000s of minor planet articles, and all threatened statuses to categorize under Category:Species by IUCN Red List category come from?   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@ZLEA: just by mentioning it in a conversation/discussion.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

What if someone dosn't want to be identified as previously banned? I really don't think this is necessary for a Barnstar. There are plenty of Barnstars that can be awared for different types of contributions. Whether someone has been previously blocked/banned for any reason or by mistake is not important. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:30, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

@JudeccaXIII: then they wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place. There's also a revert button. Are you new to Wikipedia?   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:35, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't see how this barnstar is an issue really, (maybe it needs a clearer description tho). Barnstars are for rewarding hard work and this is a humourous one.★Trekker (talk) 15:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Tom.Reding Yeah, because reverting someones comment is good. Are you that stupid? Anyways, obviously I oppose. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Who reverted what exactly?★Trekker (talk) 15:57, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: please note and read Wikipedia's policies on WP:CIVILITY & WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  16:01, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
This. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: @Tom.Reding: To me it looks like you both need to calm down a little.★Trekker (talk) 16:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

★Trekker Thanks, I've already made my message clear to Tom. I would like to stay forcus with the Barnstar now. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:11, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

@*Treker: I've updated the description to make it absolutely clear it's outside Wikipedia.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Reverted wrong message. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:53, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Remove or Keep consensus[edit]

Moving forward, we have all expressed our opinions or somewhat but there is no clear consensus to keep or to remove. It was added origianlly at WP:BARN by Tom.Reding without consensus. At this point, the discussion above is going no where, so lets get this over with. I think everyone knows my position on the matter, that I prefer to see it Remove. Other than being added without consensus, The critera had caused some confusion, but it is meant to be awarded to editors who've contributed outsite of the project as Tom has stated. The other confusion is how do we know if someone has been banned on another database that's not Wikipedia. By this comment, I assume we have to remind them that they were banned from a database outside of Wikipedia? Overall, I don't think it's good to remind people that they were banned from outside of Wikipedia, even if that person mentions it. It's none of our business to quote it. I also don't think this is a positive gesture. More like a awkward or quite possibly rude. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 17:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

I personally like it. But I'd say we need input from more people. Maybe from outside the project.★Trekker (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Keep - as creator. The description has been updated to address the perceived ambiguity. Banning in this sense is to be seen as a point of pride, a badge of honor of sorts, stemming not from malicious intent, but from the highest regard and effort for keeping massive amounts of pages up-to-date on Wikipedia. This is meant to reinforce that praise and promote such continued behavior (after finding a proxy).   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  17:45, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
My opinion likely won't matter much, but I personally lean towards keeping the Banstar Barnstar (though I will say that I have found the name's similarity to the Barnstar Barnstar to be quite confusing in the past). From what I can tell, the barnstar's purpose is not to insult other users or rudely remind them of their ban, but instead to gently poke fun at the fact that maybe the recipient was a bit too overenthusiastic in their research. Of course, an awarder would have to use common sense to determine the potential recipient's attitude towards the ban (if the recipient is fuming about the ban, then it's probably best not to award it, whereas if the recipient is listing "Got banned from this online database" under their list of achievements on their userpage, the barnstar is perfectly fine), but I'd daresay that one would need to use common sense when awarding any barnstar, so that property isn't exclusive to this barnstar alone. TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername 18:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername Why wouldn't it? Your opinion helps determine consensus. JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:06, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep, I don't see any reason to "Romove". - ZLEA T\C 19:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Neutral I'm still not clear how someone is supposed to know when to award this. I suppose in some of the science portals it could be a bigger deal (I guess I can see this coming up in astronomy related topics). So my take on it is really rather "meh". I don't think it's needed or warranted, but I also don't see any harm in having it in place. Will (talk) 17:54, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Ban Barnstar.png

The consensus is quite obvious, so I've taken the liberty of remastering the Barnstar to a 2.0. I personally think the Barnstar should be moved to "The Database Ban Barnstar". — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:00, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

The name is part of the joke I feel.★Trekker (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
I like the new version but am against the name change. - ZLEA T\C 16:09, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
It was just a suggestion, I'm not actually requesting a move. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: that looks very nice, good work. I definitely prefer the transparent circle-slash to the solid grey. My only concern is the blue barnstar. I specifically chose the File:Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png as the base for the original, due to diligence required by the recipient. Is the blue used per a certain color scheme that should be followed, or is the diligence and/or original barnstar also an acceptable alternative?   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  14:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Ban Barnstar 2.0.png

Tom.Reding Done. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 03:14, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

That looks downright sexy. I've updated the template.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  03:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Tom.Reding Thanks, I'm glad you like it. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The Reference Desk Barnstar[edit]

Reference Desk Barnstar.png

Made a alternative 2.0 version for Template:The Reference Desk BarnstarJudeccaXIII (talk) 02:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I think it's very cute.★Trekker (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

What is version 2.0?[edit]

I see a barnstar of mine listed on the project page under "Barnstars needing a new 2.0 version". It would be helpful if the description text there included a link to the relevant guideline/discussion/etc.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  16:20, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

No, because you added your Barnstar without consensus, and no one noticed until me. The style of your Barnstar is somewhat 2.0, but it has a white backgroud instead of a transparent one. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
It might have been - I wasn't aware that it needed it. Regardless, it appears to have it now.
Anyway, a link to the 2.0 guidelines/discussion would be helpful for anyone not privy to these things.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  16:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
"Adding a barnstar to the list"JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
It seems quite absurd, and baffling, that someone with your demeanor, an antithesis of this very WikiProject's goal statement of a "Kindness Campaign [...] promot[ing] Civility and WikiLove", comes to supervise & enforce its strict, meticulously & painstakingly portioned distribution.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  17:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Tom.Reding I didn't join this project to enforce anything. I simply notified the project of your Barnstar. Even now, with your response from above is insulting as to define me as a contradiction to this project. I remaster, remove duplicates, create new Barnstars for Wikiprojects that have none. As editors, we have every right to state are opinions and you took my position as offensive because I desire your Barnstar to be removed. No matter the outcome of the consensus, I stand by my word. If I was as cruel as you think I am, I could've just removed it without notifying anyone. The only thing I was wrong about was not keeping my cool, for that, I apologize. JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I think you've assumed that I took offense to your position, and acted accordingly, instead of assessing the situation & my responses, and those of others, objectively (it appears as if you flat out ignored others' responses as well, as you asked questions which were answered prior). Perhaps due to the 'typical' response you generally get here (I have no idea), or that you are that way naturally (also no idea). But either way, it's unbecoming and entirely inappropriate of anyone performing your tasks, or any tasks requiring judgement, and relegates your opinion to nearly irrelevant, at the very least not to be taken seriously.
There's nothing wrong with having something superfluous I've made being removed, as evidenced very recently here.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  20:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
This is obviously rather pointless nagging on both of you two's part. I think you should stop before it becomes worse.★Trekker (talk) 21:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

The Translation Barnstar[edit]

Translation Barnstar 2019.png

I've created an alternative 2.0 Barnstar for Template:The Translation Barnstar. It was on the list of Barnstars that needed a 2.0. I'm not sure if that necessary though. The template had a 2.0 already. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

I like your version better than the current barnstar, which looks like an award for contributions to articles on international relations. - ZLEA T\C 19:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Thnx. And the current 2.0 in the template was supposed to be the replacement for this. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Agreed. The current 2.0 is an amazing looking barnstar, but doesn't feel like the right fit for translation. might be better for international politics or UN or similar... I like this one as simple and much more appropriate for the topic! Will (talk) 14:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The Literary Barnstar[edit]

Literary Barnstar.png

Made a 2.0 for Template:The Literary Barnstar. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 17:49, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I like it. The old one rubs me the wrong way... I don't like "Barnstars" that don't look like Barnstars! there's other award categories to put such things in. This one fits nicely. Just curious though, why is the globe turned to Africa? Will (talk) 17:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Will I didn't make the globe. It was already made together with the books. But Africa makes sense, since writing was first developed in Africa. The only thing I added was the Wikipedia "W" symbol. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Jainism Award 2.0[edit]

Jainism Barnstar 2.svg
Jainism Barnstar 2-2.svg

I've created a Barnstar 2.0 for the Jainism Award for WP:JAIN. I know the original used the Swastika, 3 dots, and Siddhashila from the Jainism Flag but using the Ahimsa felt like it might be a little less politically charged and is equally appropriate as it's also part of the Jain symbol. The background colors are straight off the Jain flag (yes, the white is supposed to be wider). Will (talk) 17:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Added a slightly different version that increases the size of the front-piece... opinions on these? Will (talk) 17:20, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

my proposal to the Barnstar 2.0 project talk. Will (talk) 18:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

I like both of them, but the first one a little more, I like that the circle fits within the stars own.★Trekker (talk) 17:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Will You're having issues with the writing on the symbol. Is that why you presented another Barnstar with a larger symbol? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
The problem with working in larger SVG's is that what might look decent at full size can get weird looking at smaller sizes. The whole thing felt compressed to me once I had it uploaded and rendered, so I tried a larger format as well. So yes, the writing is part of it. — Will (talk) 11:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I tried working on this in July. I was using the same symbol, but the writing was difficult to see. I even cropped the circle in the hand but still had issues. — JudeccaXIII (talk)
I link the first one better. - ZLEA T\C 22:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
I like the one on the left. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

I've created some ribbons to go with this as well. — Will (talk) 13:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar Shadowed Ribbon Textured Ribbon Small Ribbon
Jainism Barnstar 2.svg
The Jainism Award
Jainism Barnstar Ribbon Shadow.svg
File:Jainism Barnstar Ribbon Shadow.svg
Jainism Barnstar Ribbon.svg
File:Jainism Barnstar Ribbon.svg
Jainism Barnstar Ribbon.svg
File:Jainism Barnstar Ribbon.svg

Too many awards?[edit]

To JudeccaXIII: We have too many awards, is that the problem? If you discuss and develop consensus to redirect a barnstar, that's fine. Without discussion you seem to be implementing a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Just redirecting barnstars that have the same purpose. Since you oppose change, I'll undo my edits. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Having too many awards for the same purpose is a problem. I suggest that for each set of like-awards, we decide (or we let the appropriate WikiProject decide for topical barnstars) which award is displayed on this page. Instead of redirecting the other award, we should leave it as an alternative to the main award and list it somewhere else. - ZLEA T\C 01:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
List of wanting to redirect:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by JudeccaXIII (talkcontribs) 03:00, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I would keep the Barnstar Barnstar and the Anti-Vandalism Barnstar listed here. I'm not sure about the BarnSakura/Anime Barnstar, as I think we should let the anime and manga WikiProject decide which award they would prefer listed here. Again, I don't like the idea of redirecting the other awards, as there may be some users who prefer to use them. Instead, we could move them to the Personal user awards list. - ZLEA T\C 13:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
"Having too many awards for the same purpose is a problem." How so? I oppose all these redirects until it's explained to me why this is necessary. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
What I meant was "having multiple awards for the same purpose listed in the main barnstar list is a problem". I have no problem with having redundant awards, but I have a problem with listing all of them on the main list. - ZLEA T\C 13:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
ZLEA I did redirect the original anime barnstar to the new one. Here is also the information about the old Barnstar. I tried merging the old version with the template of the new one, but I was having an issue doing so. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
JudeccaXIII I've merged the two awards. Using {{subst:The Anime Barnstar|put your message here ~~~~|alt}} will display the blue barnstar 2.0 version. - ZLEA T\C 22:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Again, why? What problem does it present when there is more than one award for the same purpose? Chris Troutman (talk) 22:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Chris Troutman This project has a goal of remastering Barnstars to 2.0 versions. I don't think editors who work on creating Barnstars should obligate themselves to remastering duplicates, even if a duplicate has been approved through previous consensus. For me, redirecting copies. As ZLEA states above, his option is friendlier by adding copies to Personal user awards. I don't oppose. We both agree these shouldn't be on the main list. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 00:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

ZLEA Thanks, I've added the Barnstar under "Topical". — JudeccaXIII (talk) 23:17, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bot Creator and Maintainer Barnstar[edit]

Bot Creator and Maintainer Barnstar.png

Propose Barnstar for those who create bots, for those who help maintain them/fix bot issues/or upgrade them. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

I like it, although I would make the gear/puzzle piece logo slightly smaller. - ZLEA T\C 12:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
ZLEA I decreased the size and removed the transparency effect. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
That looks better. I support adding it to the list. - ZLEA T\C 00:01, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

BoNM for Taiwan[edit]

I created a BoNM2.0 for ROC/Taiwan... @ZLEA: how do I add an alt to the template? — Will (talk) 13:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Wegates  Done, although I think you should know that Taiwan (the nationalist China) is the "Republic of China", not the "People's Republic of China" (the communist China). - ZLEA T\C 14:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
ZLEA National Merit Barnstars are added at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Barnstar of National Merit, not the main list. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 15:26, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
ZLEA I thought I had put ROC on it...do I have PRC someplace? if so I can fix and upload a new version to commons... — Will (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Wegates You named the file "BoNM 2- People's Republic of China Hires". I've made a request that the file be renamed "BoNM 2- Republic of China Hires" at commons. - ZLEA T\C 19:46, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
ZLEA ahh... and that's not something I can directly fix! I can rename my file, upload it fresh and put in a speedy delete on the old file though.. — Will (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Wegates There's no need, a file mover has renamed the file. - ZLEA T\C 12:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

The Islam Barnstar[edit]

The Islam Barnstar {{subst:The_Islamic_Barnstar|message ~~~~|alt}} The Islamic Barnstar Award was created to recognize any editor who has made exceptional contributions to Islam-related articles. This award is part of the Islam WikiProject and its related guilds. Introduced and designed by JuanMuslim.

Barnstar 2.0 Project Proposal

I've created a Barnstar 2.0 for the Islam Award for WP:ISLAM. Went with just updating the original. Really isn't a better choice than a caligraphy Bismillah! Proposing its addition to WP:Barnstars 2.0. — Will (talk) 12:38, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree that it looks a lot better.★Trekker (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2019 (UTC)